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Post by FriscoSoccer2004 13/03/13, 10:15 am

Soccer Po Boy wrote:
FS05 wrote:
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Thegriff wrote:This looks like better competition than you can get in Disney world


I agree! I wonder if the different color brackets will play each other in the playoffs? Or if each color will have a champion like last year? I noticed RASE is playing up with the '03's, but what about Galacticos? I didn't see them in any division. Are their players out of town? Anyone know?

Each pool will have a champion like last year is the way I understood it...

Thanks Frisco Soccer, is Attack not playing?

No - several on vacation

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Post by Guest 13/03/13, 11:34 am

FS05 wrote:
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Thegriff wrote:This looks like better competition than you can get in Disney world


I agree! I wonder if the different color brackets will play each other in the playoffs? Or if each color will have a champion like last year? I noticed RASE is playing up with the '03's, but what about Galacticos? I didn't see them in any division. Are their players out of town? Anyone know?

Each pool will have a champion like last year is the way I understood it...

That sucks!

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Post by FriscoSoccer2004 13/03/13, 11:38 am

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FS05 wrote:
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Thegriff wrote:This looks like better competition than you can get in Disney world


I agree! I wonder if the different color brackets will play each other in the playoffs? Or if each color will have a champion like last year? I noticed RASE is playing up with the '03's, but what about Galacticos? I didn't see them in any division. Are their players out of town? Anyone know?

Each pool will have a champion like last year is the way I understood it...

That sucks!

I'm thinking it ends up being too many games to fit into one day.

From experience I can say by 4:30 I'm ready for miller time, so my heart isn't broken.
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Post by Guest 13/03/13, 11:42 am

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FS05 wrote:
Soccer Po Boy wrote:
Thegriff wrote:This looks like better competition than you can get in Disney world


I agree! I wonder if the different color brackets will play each other in the playoffs? Or if each color will have a champion like last year? I noticed RASE is playing up with the '03's, but what about Galacticos? I didn't see them in any division. Are their players out of town? Anyone know?

Each pool will have a champion like last year is the way I understood it...

That sucks!

I'm thinking it ends up being too many games to fit into one day.

From experience I can say by 4:30 I'm ready for miller time, so my heart isn't broken. [/quote

It's never tha same without play-offs. Make four groups, top four to semi's then a final.

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Post by Soccer Po Boy 13/03/13, 11:55 am

[quote="Master Bates"]
FS05 wrote:
Master Bates wrote:
FS05 wrote:
Soccer Po Boy wrote:
Thegriff wrote:This looks like better competition than you can get in Disney world


I agree! I wonder if the different color brackets will play each other in the playoffs? Or if each color will have a champion like last year? I noticed RASE is playing up with the '03's, but what about Galacticos? I didn't see them in any division. Are their players out of town? Anyone know?

Each pool will have a champion like last year is the way I understood it...

That sucks!

I'm thinking it ends up being too many games to fit into one day.

From experience I can say by 4:30 I'm ready for miller time, so my heart isn't broken. [/quote

It's never tha same without play-offs. Make four groups, top four to semi's then a final.

This is something we CAN agree on!!
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Post by FriscoSoccer2004 13/03/13, 11:56 am

Master Bates wrote:
FS05 wrote:
Master Bates wrote:
FS05 wrote:
Soccer Po Boy wrote:
Thegriff wrote:This looks like better competition than you can get in Disney world


I agree! I wonder if the different color brackets will play each other in the playoffs? Or if each color will have a champion like last year? I noticed RASE is playing up with the '03's, but what about Galacticos? I didn't see them in any division. Are their players out of town? Anyone know?

Each pool will have a champion like last year is the way I understood it...

That sucks!

I'm thinking it ends up being too many games to fit into one day.

From experience I can say by 4:30 I'm ready for miller time, so my heart isn't broken.

It's never tha same without play-offs. Make four groups, top four to semi's then a final.

Not that it is a problem but actually ends up being fewer games overall.... But probably ends up being a bad deal as 4 teams miss out on an extra game. All in all there are no rankings or seedlings to seed out the pools so one pool could be stacked and another might be cake walk and you really won't know until Saturday afternoon.... All in all it will be fun and 4 teams get to go home as champs and 4 runners-up and all should have a good time we can only hope

One recommendation for next year is to have teams put some sort of scale of 1 thru 5 for their Competitiveness. 1 being established team that plays year round in the most competitive divisions of 3v3, 5 being academy team that threw together a roster for fun for pot O Gold
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Post by DrB 13/03/13, 12:02 pm

Thegriff wrote:This looks like better competition than you can get in Disney world

The Lightning Bolts would like a word with you.

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Post by Guest 13/03/13, 12:05 pm

FS05 wrote:
Master Bates wrote:
FS05 wrote:
Master Bates wrote:
FS05 wrote:
Soccer Po Boy wrote:


I agree! I wonder if the different color brackets will play each other in the playoffs? Or if each color will have a champion like last year? I noticed RASE is playing up with the '03's, but what about Galacticos? I didn't see them in any division. Are their players out of town? Anyone know?

Each pool will have a champion like last year is the way I understood it...

That sucks!

I'm thinking it ends up being too many games to fit into one day.

From experience I can say by 4:30 I'm ready for miller time, so my heart isn't broken.

It's never tha same without play-offs. Make four groups, top four to semi's then a final.

Not that it is a problem but actually ends up being fewer games overall.... But probably ends up being a bad deal as 4 teams miss out on an extra game. All in all there are no rankings or seedlings to seed out the pools so one pool could be stacked and another might be cake walk and you really won't know until Saturday afternoon.... All in all it will be fun and 4 teams get to go home as champs and 4 runners-up and all should have a good time we can only hope

One recommendation for next year is to have teams put some sort of scale of 1 thru 5 for their Competitiveness. 1 being established team that plays year round in the most competitive divisions of 3v3, 5 being academy team that threw together a roster for fun for pot O Gold

What about consolation games? When you don't have play-offs I think it becomes more of a league than a tournament.

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Post by FriscoSoccer2004 13/03/13, 12:09 pm

Master Bates wrote:
FS05 wrote:
Master Bates wrote:
FS05 wrote:
Master Bates wrote:
FS05 wrote:

Each pool will have a champion like last year is the way I understood it...

That sucks!

I'm thinking it ends up being too many games to fit into one day.

From experience I can say by 4:30 I'm ready for miller time, so my heart isn't broken.

It's never tha same without play-offs. Make four groups, top four to semi's then a final.

Not that it is a problem but actually ends up being fewer games overall.... But probably ends up being a bad deal as 4 teams miss out on an extra game. All in all there are no rankings or seedlings to seed out the pools so one pool could be stacked and another might be cake walk and you really won't know until Saturday afternoon.... All in all it will be fun and 4 teams get to go home as champs and 4 runners-up and all should have a good time we can only hope

One recommendation for next year is to have teams put some sort of scale of 1 thru 5 for their Competitiveness. 1 being established team that plays year round in the most competitive divisions of 3v3, 5 being academy team that threw together a roster for fun for pot O Gold

What about consolation games? When you don't have play-offs I think it becomes more of a league than a tournament.

Just a note, I am going off what I read and how they did it last year, I am not affliated with Blue Sky...

They do the top 2 teams in a Championship game in all 4 pools as I recall...

If you want seeding and playoffs and play back in brackets and all that fancy stuff, I recommend www.kickit3v3.com Next event May 11-12th...

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Post by go99 13/03/13, 12:28 pm

oh thats so sad Crying or Very sad Seeding, rankings, established teams that play year round in competative 3v3 (competative 3v3, thats funny) and teams just put together for fun (I thought thats what 3v3 was for)

We should start a 3v3 league. With clubs, coahces, and 3v3 practice. There needs to be select style contracts so you don't get player movement and we can properly identify all of these teams. I think BW can put together a ranking system for us and cost could be minimal. Lets say $1000 a year.
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Post by Soccer Po Boy 13/03/13, 01:52 pm

go99 wrote:oh thats so sad Crying or Very sad Seeding, rankings, established teams that play year round in competative 3v3 (competative 3v3, thats funny) and teams just put together for fun (I thought thats what 3v3 was for)

We should start a 3v3 league. With clubs, coahces, and 3v3 practice. There needs to be select style contracts so you don't get player movement and we can properly identify all of these teams. I think BW can put together a ranking system for us and cost could be minimal. Lets say $1000 a year.


I think these tournaments are just like any other. It has to be hard to determine which teams are at what level. And with that, I guess you just show up, play who is scheduled and have fun. One thing I do know is this....You see the teams that play in most of these tournaments, I guess these would be the "competitive" teams and start to recognize the players, its no surprise that these same girls are the ones that usually dominate the games on the "big" field, no matter what team they play for. So I have to ask myself, which came first? Were these girls always the most "competitive" and just wanted to play year round? Or did playing in these tournaments year round make them the players that dominate on the "big" field? I really don't know the answer. But, at the end of the day, the girls get to compete against several different players from several different teams and have a bunch of FUN. So, I guess you can post on here how crazy and silly it all is, or you can play in them and have fun and hope it helps your DD develop as a player and develop friendships from girls on other teams. But one is definitely easier than the other.
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Post by go99 13/03/13, 02:08 pm

oh the tournament aren't crazy. They were an opportunity to have a bunch of fun. Its turning into big money competative soccer. Classic league with fewer players. I absolutely love the 3v3 plays I see now thats funny. I can tell you this 3v3 did not make them dominant on the big field and other than extra touches didn't help. At best its a "fun" opportunity to "play" soccer. At its worst its a destructive enviornment that turns soccer into work. Everything bad about soccer in NTX concentrated into a smaller area.
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Post by Soccer Po Boy 13/03/13, 02:10 pm

go99 wrote:oh the tournament aren't crazy. They were an opportunity to have a bunch of fun. Its turning into big money competative soccer. Classic league with fewer players. I absolutely love the 3v3 plays I see now thats funny. I can tell you this 3v3 did not make them dominant on the big field and other than extra touches didn't help. At best its a "fun" opportunity to "play" soccer. At its worst its a destructive enviornment that turns soccer into work. Everything bad about soccer in NTX concentrated into a smaller area.

To each his own. I just hope I can know as much as you one day.
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Post by go99 13/03/13, 02:24 pm

oh don't worry you won't

Besides I didn't say I didn't like 3v3 I just said all of the seeding and ranking etc was silly and it is. But don't worry as much as I have seen 3v3 change, we aren't far off from 2 day seeded tournaments with static rosters and limited guest play
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Post by Soccer Po Boy 13/03/13, 02:31 pm

go99 wrote:oh don't worry you won't

Besides I didn't say I didn't like 3v3 I just said all of the seeding and ranking etc was silly and it is. But don't worry as much as I have seen 3v3 change, we aren't far off from 2 day seeded tournaments with static rosters and limited guest play

Sorry, I misinterpreted all of your whining. I NOW understand. You DO like 3v3, you just didn't get asked to play on a team this weekend. And as far as the seedings and rankings go, I think everyone will agree that trying to rank teams only makes the tournament more enjoyable for all. It allows the teams with the same skill level play each other. but I do understand that that is difficult to do.
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Post by go99 13/03/13, 02:51 pm

actually DD is out of town hiding from the Dalglish game and hasn't made it back yet.

But can't really rank the teams unless you have official closed rosters and limit guest playing. See we will do it all for the kids.

but now that you mentioned it she didn't get invited to play Sad hmmm, maybe we should get a 3v3 skills coach? No...thats just greedy, we have to let you win something.
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Post by Sweet_feet99 13/03/13, 02:52 pm

Rankings. Huh. What I miss. Oh by the way I'm glad to say we made it in. Should be fun and going in just for fun. Not to say she's not gonna be competitive, she always is. She's just gonna have some fun.
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Post by Soccer Po Boy 13/03/13, 02:55 pm

go99 wrote:actually DD is out of town hiding from the Dalglish game and hasn't made it back yet.

But can't really rank the teams unless you have official closed rosters and limit guest playing. See we will do it all for the kids.

but now that you mentioned it she didn't get invited to play Sad hmmm, maybe we should get a 3v3 skills coach? No...thats just greedy, we have to let you win something.

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Post by Soccer Po Boy 13/03/13, 02:57 pm

Sweet_feet99 wrote:Rankings. Huh. What I miss. Oh by the way I'm glad to say we made it in. Should be fun and going in just for fun. Not to say she's not gonna be competitive, she always is. She's just gonna have some fun.

Glad you made it in. Your kid is a heck of a player.
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Post by Guest 13/03/13, 03:00 pm

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go99 wrote:oh don't worry you won't

Besides I didn't say I didn't like 3v3 I just said all of the seeding and ranking etc was silly and it is. But don't worry as much as I have seen 3v3 change, we aren't far off from 2 day seeded tournaments with static rosters and limited guest play

Sorry, I misinterpreted all of your whining. I NOW understand. You DO like 3v3, you just didn't get asked to play on a team this weekend. And as far as the seedings and rankings go, I think everyone will agree that trying to rank teams only makes the tournament more enjoyable for all. It allows the teams with the same skill level play each other. but I do understand that that is difficult to do.

Well, I'll add my two cents on this 3v3 stuff. I think it adds a level of fun for the kiddos while also increasing their number of touches but it does cause parent politics to get a little crazy depending on which team your child plays on and whether or not it's a "mixed" hybrid team of players from rival clubs. Now with that, my DD plays on one of those "mixed" teams and loves it. It has caused some tension among team parents but I've also seen a "huge" difference in my DDs playing abilities - they've increased ten fold and you can see the difference between the ones that do and do not play 3v3. Her (my DD) ultimate goal is to get to Walt Disney World. So practices extra hard and pays extra close attention in practices, etc. But, in the end, it's all about fun. She really enjoys playing with her friends that she can't play with in a normal club environment - ok, "can't" a strong word, more like "won't". She absolutely loves playing soccer and this gives her an opportunity to play not only with some of her teammates but also with players from other teams (ranked higher than hers - LOL). Anyway, I agree with Go that it doesn't really create a friendly environment within the clubs we play in but it does allow the kids to have some fun outside the daily grind of club soccer. But with KickIt, 3v3 Live and Quickfoot, it's quickly becoming another soccer moneymaker with rankings and all that jazz - won't be long and the Pot O' Gold will end up affiliated with something like Quickfoot or one of those larger leagues... I like that this is just a locally run tournament with such a large turnout... DD is excited to play this weekend.

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Post by go99 13/03/13, 03:00 pm

Sweet_feet99 wrote:Rankings. Huh. What I miss. Oh by the way I'm glad to say we made it in. Should be fun and going in just for fun. Not to say she's not gonna be competitive, she always is. She's just gonna have some fun.

There you go Sweetfeet. if she gets to spend the day with her friends and having fun playing some soccer its a great day. Sun will be out and it will be nice out. By the late afternoon kids are about done and ready to have sleepovers. No need to push it out further.
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Post by go99 13/03/13, 03:03 pm

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go99 wrote:actually DD is out of town hiding from the Dalglish game and hasn't made it back yet.

But can't really rank the teams unless you have official closed rosters and limit guest playing. See we will do it all for the kids.

but now that you mentioned it she didn't get invited to play Sad hmmm, maybe we should get a 3v3 skills coach? No...thats just greedy, we have to let you win something.

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Sweet_feet99 wrote:Rankings. Huh. What I miss. Oh by the way I'm glad to say we made it in. Should be fun and going in just for fun. Not to say she's not gonna be competitive, she always is. She's just gonna have some fun.

There you go Sweetfeet. if she gets to spend the day with her friends and having fun playing some soccer its a great day. Sun will be out and it will be nice out. By the late afternoon kids are about done and ready to have sleepovers. No need to push it out further.

Don't forget the ice cream stop on the way home, win or lose - an if there's time, maybe even a movie. It's a fun day of sun, soccer and friends that wouldn't normally get to play together but 3v3 allows for players to mix from any team - so kids can play with friends that come from different clubs.

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go99 wrote:oh don't worry you won't

Besides I didn't say I didn't like 3v3 I just said all of the seeding and ranking etc was silly and it is. But don't worry as much as I have seen 3v3 change, we aren't far off from 2 day seeded tournaments with static rosters and limited guest play

Sorry, I misinterpreted all of your whining. I NOW understand. You DO like 3v3, you just didn't get asked to play on a team this weekend. And as far as the seedings and rankings go, I think everyone will agree that trying to rank teams only makes the tournament more enjoyable for all. It allows the teams with the same skill level play each other. but I do understand that that is difficult to do.

Well, I'll add my two cents on this 3v3 stuff. I think it adds a level of fun for the kiddos while also increasing their number of touches but it does cause parent politics to get a little crazy depending on which team your child plays on and whether or not it's a "mixed" hybrid team of players from rival clubs. Now with that, my DD plays on one of those "mixed" teams and loves it. It has caused some tension among team parents but I've also seen a "huge" difference in my DDs playing abilities - they've increased ten fold and you can see the difference between the ones that do and do not play 3v3. Her (my DD) ultimate goal is to get to Walt Disney World. So practices extra hard and pays extra close attention in practices, etc. But, in the end, it's all about fun. She really enjoys playing with her friends that she can't play with in a normal club environment - ok, "can't" a strong word, more like "won't". She absolutely loves playing soccer and this gives her an opportunity to play not only with some of her teammates but also with players from other teams (ranked higher than hers - LOL). Anyway, I agree with Go that it doesn't really create a friendly environment within the clubs we play in but it does allow the kids to have some fun outside the daily grind of club soccer. But with KickIt, 3v3 Live and Quickfoot, it's quickly becoming another soccer moneymaker with rankings and all that jazz - won't be long and the Pot O' Gold will end up affiliated with something like Quickfoot or one of those larger leagues... I like that this is just a locally run tournament with such a large turnout... DD is excited to play this weekend.

And then when all of that happens say goodbye to these mixed hybrid, silly playing with your friends stuff. Your daily grind becomes your 3v3 grind also
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Post by Guest 13/03/13, 03:06 pm

go99 wrote:
SoccaDad wrote:
Soccer Po Boy wrote:
go99 wrote:oh don't worry you won't

Besides I didn't say I didn't like 3v3 I just said all of the seeding and ranking etc was silly and it is. But don't worry as much as I have seen 3v3 change, we aren't far off from 2 day seeded tournaments with static rosters and limited guest play

Sorry, I misinterpreted all of your whining. I NOW understand. You DO like 3v3, you just didn't get asked to play on a team this weekend. And as far as the seedings and rankings go, I think everyone will agree that trying to rank teams only makes the tournament more enjoyable for all. It allows the teams with the same skill level play each other. but I do understand that that is difficult to do.

Well, I'll add my two cents on this 3v3 stuff. I think it adds a level of fun for the kiddos while also increasing their number of touches but it does cause parent politics to get a little crazy depending on which team your child plays on and whether or not it's a "mixed" hybrid team of players from rival clubs. Now with that, my DD plays on one of those "mixed" teams and loves it. It has caused some tension among team parents but I've also seen a "huge" difference in my DDs playing abilities - they've increased ten fold and you can see the difference between the ones that do and do not play 3v3. Her (my DD) ultimate goal is to get to Walt Disney World. So practices extra hard and pays extra close attention in practices, etc. But, in the end, it's all about fun. She really enjoys playing with her friends that she can't play with in a normal club environment - ok, "can't" a strong word, more like "won't". She absolutely loves playing soccer and this gives her an opportunity to play not only with some of her teammates but also with players from other teams (ranked higher than hers - LOL). Anyway, I agree with Go that it doesn't really create a friendly environment within the clubs we play in but it does allow the kids to have some fun outside the daily grind of club soccer. But with KickIt, 3v3 Live and Quickfoot, it's quickly becoming another soccer moneymaker with rankings and all that jazz - won't be long and the Pot O' Gold will end up affiliated with something like Quickfoot or one of those larger leagues... I like that this is just a locally run tournament with such a large turnout... DD is excited to play this weekend.

And then when all of that happens say goodbye to these mixed hybrid, silly playing with your friends stuff. Your daily grind becomes your 3v3 grind also

We can always dream right? Hold on to those dreams of things that are fun... that's what we're trying to do...

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Post by Sweet_feet99 13/03/13, 03:21 pm

Soccer Po Boy wrote:
Sweet_feet99 wrote:Rankings. Huh. What I miss. Oh by the way I'm glad to say we made it in. Should be fun and going in just for fun. Not to say she's not gonna be competitive, she always is. She's just gonna have some fun.

Glad you made it in. Your kid is a heck of a player.

Thanks! Although its not with her normal group of friends, she's excited to meet new friends. She says wait til her friends see Saturday and with what team.
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