Pure year age groups

go99 wrote:60/40 I think

Go...I luv ya man! Just having fun with you. I don't care if rase is all 03s. I think going to age pure and blowing up an entire system for kids soccer is the most Ill conceived bunch of silliness I've ever seen. All that will change, is the age groupings of the top teams at the younger ages. Teams that like to play together will be blown up and leagues will be blown up.....for what reason???? Stupid stupid stupid. I do get the smaller field and other changes.

Read_These_Nikes wrote:

soccerjack wrote:
TO DOMINATE!  Just like the mostly 03 rase team did in the 04 group.

I'm sure RASE isn't the only mostly 03 team in the 04 group in fact I'm positive. They are just the most disciplined team in the 03/04 group and they don't get rattled when they face pressure. They probably should of played up cause I really only see one team truly challenging them and that's DTS.

Oh yeah, that same team that lost to the Feet

the changes are all stupid and really more job justification. Those at the top making alot of money feel the need to make it look as though they are doing something

Cleansheets wrote:

Read_These_Nikes wrote:

soccerjack wrote:
TO DOMINATE!  Just like the mostly 03 rase team did in the 04 group.

I'm sure RASE isn't the only mostly 03 team in the 04 group in fact I'm positive. They are just the most disciplined team in the 03/04 group and they don't get rattled when they face pressure. They probably should of played up cause I really only see one team truly challenging them and that's DTS.

Oh yeah, that same team that lost to the Feet

Word on the street is feet have been playing with 02's....but that's a whole different thing.

Cleansheets wrote:

Read_These_Nikes wrote:

soccerjack wrote:
TO DOMINATE!  Just like the mostly 03 rase team did in the 04 group.

I'm sure RASE isn't the only mostly 03 team in the 04 group in fact I'm positive. They are just the most disciplined team in the 03/04 group and they don't get rattled when they face pressure. They probably should of played up cause I really only see one team truly challenging them and that's DTS.

Oh yeah, that same team that lost to the Feet

Every dog has its day or should I say morning DTS lost 1-0. Don't forget Sting G tied Feet 0-0 and DTS beat them 4-1. Maybe Feet were packin' it in playing to tie and got lucky. It could happen.

Read_These_Nikes wrote:

Cleansheets wrote:

Read_These_Nikes wrote:

soccerjack wrote:
TO DOMINATE!  Just like the mostly 03 rase team did in the 04 group.

I'm sure RASE isn't the only mostly 03 team in the 04 group in fact I'm positive. They are just the most disciplined team in the 03/04 group and they don't get rattled when they face pressure. They probably should of played up cause I really only see one team truly challenging them and that's DTS.

Oh yeah, that same team that lost to the Feet

Every dog has its day or should I say morning DTS lost 1-0. Don't forget Sting G tied Feet 0-0 and DTS beat them 4-1. Maybe Feet were packin' it in playing to tie and got lucky. It could happen.

Clearly you saw the game.

Im sure someone who did will set me straight, Im actually just guessing.

It is definitely pure luck that the same 5 times are at the top every year. Have been since basically U8. AP won't change this. Player movement might but it won't be because of AP. Either of those 5 teams could compete with each other. Forget the score line. Doesn't always accurately depict the way the game was played.

Cleansheets wrote:

Read_These_Nikes wrote:

soccerjack wrote:
TO DOMINATE!  Just like the mostly 03 rase team did in the 04 group.

I'm sure RASE isn't the only mostly 03 team in the 04 group in fact I'm positive. They are just the most disciplined team in the 03/04 group and they don't get rattled when they face pressure. They probably should of played up cause I really only see one team truly challenging them and that's DTS.

Oh yeah, that same team that lost to the Feet

If we were still at DTS Sheets, I'd be mad atcha...but I'm not...so I aint.

soccerjack wrote:

go99 wrote:60/40 I think

Go...I luv ya man!  Just having fun with you. I don't care if rase is all 03s. I think going to age pure and blowing up an entire system for kids soccer is the most Ill conceived bunch of silliness I've ever seen. All that will change, is the age groupings of the top teams at the younger ages. Teams that like to play together will be blown up and leagues will be blown up.....for what reason???? Stupid stupid stupid. I do get the smaller field and other changes.

Preach brotha preach. The whole concept that Age Pure fixes relative age is false and harms more than it hurts relative age. Most of these kids were playing against kids with a 12 month age range. Now with Age Pure it's still a 12 month window for those playing down into Age Pure but it's an 18 month range for the younger kids that play up with their mixed age teams. They say they're trying to solve a problem but they're making it worse and more pervasive. All for the benefit of identifying the top .01% that were going to be identified anyway. It's incompetence and lunacy to negatively impact millions of kids for the sole benefit of easier scouting for the few. This is not done for the benefit of the kids.

When has anything actually been done for the benefit of the kids!?!

Cleansheets wrote:When has anything actually been done for the benefit of the kids!?!

Public service announcement. The above is a rhetorical question.

Cleansheets wrote:When has anything actually been done for the benefit of the kids!?!

go99 wrote:the changes are all stupid and really more job justification.  Those at the top making alot of money feel the need to make it look as though they are doing something

Yep. Seems like the powers that be were in pure politician mode on this one. Try to make it look like they were doing something for dumb reasons (everyone else is doing it) when all they are doing is making it worse.

Cleansheets wrote:When has anything actually been done for the benefit of the kids!?!

Tuesdays at Pluckers

Barca wrote:

Cleansheets wrote:When has anything actually been done for the benefit of the kids!?!

Or the parents for that matter. Oh, I'm sorry. I forgot. My role is to shut-up just write those checks. Oooff.

adufresne wrote:It is definitely pure luck that the same 5 times are at the top every year. Have been since basically U8. AP won't change this. Player movement might but it won't be because of AP. Either of those 5 teams could compete with each other.  Forget the score line. Doesn't always accurately depict the way the game was played.

AP will hit the ECNL clubs more than the others.

Lefty wrote:

Cleansheets wrote:When has anything actually been done for the benefit of the kids!?!

 

Public service announcement.  The above is a rhetorical question.

was that question directed at me

PurplePonyPower wrote:

adufresne wrote:It is definitely pure luck that the same 5 times are at the top every year. Have been since basically U8. AP won't change this. Player movement might but it won't be because of AP. Either of those 5 teams could compete with each other.  Forget the score line. Doesn't always accurately depict the way the game was played.

AP will hit the ECNL clubs more than the others.

Yes. I'm sure you're right. The ECNL teams will crumble and Spirit and Odyssey and GSSC will rise from the ashes.

adufresne wrote:

PurplePonyPower wrote:

adufresne wrote:It is definitely pure luck that the same 5 times are at the top every year. Have been since basically U8. AP won't change this. Player movement might but it won't be because of AP. Either of those 5 teams could compete with each other.  Forget the score line. Doesn't always accurately depict the way the game was played.

AP will hit the ECNL clubs more than the others.

Yes. I'm sure you're right. The ECNL teams will crumble and Spirit and Odyssey and GSSC will rise from the ashes.

So your 03s will not tryout for the Feet ECNL team?

PurplePonyPower wrote:

adufresne wrote:

PurplePonyPower wrote:

adufresne wrote:It is definitely pure luck that the same 5 times are at the top every year. Have been since basically U8. AP won't change this. Player movement might but it won't be because of AP. Either of those 5 teams could compete with each other.  Forget the score line. Doesn't always accurately depict the way the game was played.

AP will hit the ECNL clubs more than the others.

Yes. I'm sure you're right. The ECNL teams will crumble and Spirit and Odyssey and GSSC will rise from the ashes.

So your 03s will not tryout for the Feet ECNL team?

03s will be U13. ECNL starts at U14.

adufresne wrote:

PurplePonyPower wrote:

adufresne wrote:It is definitely pure luck that the same 5 times are at the top every year. Have been since basically U8. AP won't change this. Player movement might but it won't be because of AP. Either of those 5 teams could compete with each other.  Forget the score line. Doesn't always accurately depict the way the game was played.

AP will hit the ECNL clubs more than the others.

Yes. I'm sure you're right. The ECNL teams will crumble and Spirit and Odyssey and GSSC will rise from the ashes.

I literally laughed out loud...

adufresne wrote:

PurplePonyPower wrote:

adufresne wrote:

PurplePonyPower wrote:

adufresne wrote:It is definitely pure luck that the same 5 times are at the top every year. Have been since basically U8. AP won't change this. Player movement might but it won't be because of AP. Either of those 5 teams could compete with each other.  Forget the score line. Doesn't always accurately depict the way the game was played.

AP will hit the ECNL clubs more than the others.

Yes. I'm sure you're right. The ECNL teams will crumble and Spirit and Odyssey and GSSC will rise from the ashes.

So your 03s will not tryout for the Feet ECNL team?

03s will be U13. ECNL starts at U14.

Are you sure about that?

PurplePonyPower wrote:

adufresne wrote:

PurplePonyPower wrote:

adufresne wrote:

PurplePonyPower wrote:

adufresne wrote:It is definitely pure luck that the same 5 times are at the top every year. Have been since basically U8. AP won't change this. Player movement might but it won't be because of AP. Either of those 5 teams could compete with each other.  Forget the score line. Doesn't always accurately depict the way the game was played.

AP will hit the ECNL clubs more than the others.

Yes. I'm sure you're right. The ECNL teams will crumble and Spirit and Odyssey and GSSC will rise from the ashes.

So your 03s will not tryout for the Feet ECNL team?

03s will be U13. ECNL starts at U14.

Are you sure about that?

LOL. No. I'm not sure about anything. I just read the chart.


http://www.usyouthsoccer.org/assets/1/15/USYS-NEW-SOCCER-AGE-CHART-2016-BIRTH-YEAR-MATRIX%20v1.pdf

ECNL will start at U13 next year for the 2003 birth year..

U13 - 2003
U14 - 2002
U15 - 2001
U16 - 2000 and so on..

Well '03AP's trying out for ECNL this spring will certainly shake thinks up a bit more. Not that things weren't already shaken up enough.

The big question is what will happen LPE after this year? Will the whole team try to move to take an ECNL spot. In the current '04 group, there are two clubs that aren't in the top 5 echelon of teams, Sting and Solar. At first glance it would make sense to move to one of these teams. But if you look at the current '03 teams, you have Solar Chelsea near the top of the '03 group and Solar Red 03 near the top of the '02s. How many of these girls are '03AP. Also, would some of LPE consider reuniting with their old coach at FCD?

Bottom line is what are the odds this could be the farewell tour of LPE? May be a time for another one of those infamous LPE parent meetings.

I was hoping that the ECNL thing would wait until U14 like every other year so that the initial changes wouldn't be so severe but it doesn't look like it will go that way.