ECNL swings back at DA

Interesting thread. Especially like the $2250 dues.

jogobonito06 wrote:Interesting thread.  Especially like the $2250 dues.  

Yeah and interesting someone posted there is a mandatory GDA meeting in Chicago this week.  Possibly more info soon..

The best thing about this is choice. Now we will have DA, DA d-2, Ecnl, composite, jdl, champions etc...should help spread the talent out and keep an equal playing field for all the kids.

Soapbox_mom wrote:The best thing about this is choice. Now we will have DA, DA d-2, Ecnl, composite, jdl, champions etc...should help spread the talent out and keep an equal playing field for all the kids.

You posted that one under the wrong alias.

Oops...sorry...I meant to put that under my "bwgophers" alias. Just assume this is a bw post.

My inside source: My meeting going well in Chi-town ...

My prediction... FCD will be the only club with DA. All other clubs will decline DA..

I doubt it.

http://interactives.dallasnews.com/2015/dallas-sting/

That's a history Sting is will walk away from with a great deal of reluctance.

Also Solar is not going to jeopardize it's  current position with US Soccer.

Texans have a great deal of pride in their club and it's ability to produce World Class players.

I don't have inside sources so let's see. The idea was that the DA would be subsidized by US Soccer so not seeing the negative financial impact to the clubs that have been admitted (just loss of control and dilution of ECNL Teams).

This is of course a complete waste of everybody's time writing and reading since it will just play out but hey why not.

Son_ofa_Pitch wrote:My inside source:  My meeting going well in Chi-town ...  

My prediction... FCD will be the only club with DA. All other clubs will decline DA..

Prediction: FCD and Solar. We should get a pool going...

newbiefornow wrote: The idea was that the DA would be subsidized by US Soccer so not seeing the negative financial impact to the clubs that have been admitted.

Clubs will have to think long and hard on how they will fund DA when you don't have additional income to help subsidize.

Son_ofa_Pitch wrote:

newbiefornow wrote: The idea was that the DA would be subsidized by US Soccer so not seeing the negative financial impact to the clubs that have been admitted.

Clubs will have to think long and hard on how they will fund DA when you don't have additional income to help subsidize.

They don't have to fund it. Parents will pay for DA just like they do any other league. I believe the boys had to pay for it in the beginning, and Solar still charges to play. Only FCD and Texans after U13 is free.

Son_ofa_Pitch wrote:

newbiefornow wrote: The idea was that the DA would be subsidized by US Soccer so not seeing the negative financial impact to the clubs that have been admitted.

Clubs will have to think long and hard on how they will fund DA when you don't have additional income to help subsidize.

PB at Liverpool can fund it!

He could fund solar, sting,Texans that could be the closest he could get to GDA.

newbiefornow wrote:I doubt it.

http://interactives.dallasnews.com/2015/dallas-sting/

That's a history Sting is will walk away from with a great deal of reluctance.

Also Solar is not going to jeopardize it's  current position with US Soccer.

Texans have a great deal of pride in their club and it's ability to produce World Class players.

I don't have inside sources so let's see. The idea was that the DA would be subsidized by US Soccer so not seeing the negative financial impact to the clubs that have been admitted (just loss of control and dilution of ECNL Teams).

This is of course a complete waste of everybody's time writing and reading since it will just play out but hey why not.

US Soccer is only funding the administration of the league (requiring a small player registration fee per player) like they do for the NWSL and will not charge clubs/teams for any DA tournament fees.  The member clubs/parents are responsible for the rest of the expenses. Clubs can choose to fund some, all or none of the player costs. USSF ideally wants it to be free to the player but the club has to manage getting to that point.

Zizou wrote:

Son_ofa_Pitch wrote:

newbiefornow wrote: The idea was that the DA would be subsidized by US Soccer so not seeing the negative financial impact to the clubs that have been admitted.

Clubs will have to think long and hard on how they will fund DA when you don't have additional income to help subsidize.

PB at Liverpool can fund it!

How many flower flats does it take to fund a DA team?

One flat check from PB!

tpitty wrote:

Son_ofa_Pitch wrote:

newbiefornow wrote: The idea was that the DA would be subsidized by US Soccer so not seeing the negative financial impact to the clubs that have been admitted.

Clubs will have to think long and hard on how they will fund DA when you don't have additional income to help subsidize.

They don't have to fund it. Parents will pay for DA just like they do any other league. I believe the boys had to pay for it in the beginning, and Solar still charges to play. Only FCD and Texans after U13 is free.

If that's the case, then what would be the difference between DA and ECNL? Pay-to-Play, right?

Pay to play, or increased dues from every other non-DA player.

Son_ofa_Pitch wrote:

tpitty wrote:

Son_ofa_Pitch wrote:

newbiefornow wrote: The idea was that the DA would be subsidized by US Soccer so not seeing the negative financial impact to the clubs that have been admitted.

Clubs will have to think long and hard on how they will fund DA when you don't have additional income to help subsidize.

They don't have to fund it. Parents will pay for DA just like they do any other league. I believe the boys had to pay for it in the beginning, and Solar still charges to play. Only FCD and Texans after U13 is free.

If that's the case, then what would be the difference between DA and ECNL? Pay-to-Play, right?

And therein lies the argument. A parent/player will have to weigh what is best for them individually. Over time, those wanting to make the National Team circuit will be selected from DA clubs primarily. That is one obvious way USSoccer will promote their league. That, coaching standards, and curriculum. Along with number of training sessions, reduced tournaments, and lack of high school sports. Having scouts at training sessions, and local National Team camps will need to be factored in as well. It is all about what you are willing to pay/play for.--and eventually possible not have to pay for.

So far, only LAGalaxy, I believe, have stated outright that their girls DA program was fully subsidized.

No matter how you slice it the top players are going to want to have the opportunity to play with the elites. Pay -to-play, scholarships, fully funded, or reduced fees lets get it on and see where this goes.

I don't give a shit whose name is on the label. Get the top talent in the nation together and let's compete.

tpitty wrote:

And therein lies the argument. A parent/player will have to weigh what is best for them individually. Over time, those wanting to make the National Team circuit will be selected from DA clubs primarily. That is one obvious way USSoccer will promote their league. That, coaching standards, and curriculum. Along with number of training sessions, reduced tournaments, and lack of high school sports. Having scouts at training sessions, and local National Team camps will need to be factored in as well. It is all about what you are willing to pay/play for.--and eventually possible not have to pay for.

So far, only LAGalaxy, I believe, have stated outright that their girls DA program was fully subsidized.

As noted upthread the Pateadores out of Costa Mesa, CA has stated their girls DA will be free as well.  Their '03s and 04s had their first DA "trials" this past Sunday.

https://bsbproduction.s3.amazonaws.com/portals/904/docs/pats%20girls%20academy%20trials.2.pdf  

Parent Observation of DA tryout

Yeah they won't be the only ones fully funding the academy. Heck I would even take a reduced rate to play and be happy.

Let's say for the heck of it all 4 clubs go with DA.. The Frontier Conference will include

4 Dallas Clubs
2 Kansas Clubs
2 Colorado Clubs
2 Houston Clubs??
1 Austin Club

I can see a nice out of pocket expenses if not subsidized.. Two if not all 4 Dallas clubs will have to make trips to CO and KS.. Poor ole Lonestar will have to dig in deep..

Son_ofa_Pitch wrote:Let's say for the heck of it all 4 clubs go with DA.. The Frontier Conference will include

4 Dallas Clubs
2 Kansas Clubs
2 Colorado Clubs
2 Houston Clubs??
1 Austin Club

I can see a nice out of pocket expenses if not subsidized.. Two if not all 4 Dallas clubs will have to make trips to CO and KS.. Poor ole Lonestar will have to dig in deep..

Lonestar is apparently out.

the travel fee is less than the club fee for select. Hopefully they also pay for the girls but we know the league itself will be free

As far as travel, it's a no brainer Dallas teams benefit. Dallas teams three travels , other groups 4 travels within region. Dallas teams 9 home games six road games. This is all contingent on lone star dropping out.