96G Scores from Saturday 10/23

Only 3 scores from today's games have been posted. One from D1 and two from D3.

0 - Revolution
2 - Solar Blue

1 - Solar White
2 - Sting West

2 - ASG White
0 - Andromeda

Does anyone know if any of the other games were played? If so, scores?

All of the later matches were rained out

Sting Solar 0-0 final
FC and Texans will have to be replayed

So 5 games were scheduled at 11:30am; 3 at Chinn Chapel and 2 at UTD. Of those games 1 was finished at UTD and 1 was finished at Chinn Chapel?

The other 3 games did not complete and will have to be replayed?

The Andromeda vs ASG game was called with 5 minutes left of the game. If I understand the rules correctly, this game should be replayed.

games will be rescheduled for Tues Wed & Thurs this week is what I am hearing

I have it on good authority that the Andromeda/ASG game went final. The ref blew his whistle 3 times & pointed to the middle of the field. Plus it is my understanding that LH will not post the scores without confirmation from both managers. That would imply that both managers thought the game was complete. How were they able to finish and others were not? Don't know; maybe the refs cut half a few minutes short because of the impending weather.

andromeda96g wrote:The Andromeda vs ASG game was called with 5 minutes left of the game. If I understand the rules correctly, this game should be replayed.

Concerning the Texans/FC Dallas game....do we know if it starts completely over or does it pick-up where the game left off?
Would be pretty tough luck for FCD (but obviously a nice break for Texans) if the 2-0 lead was negated and they started over.
How deep did the game get into the 2nd half?

socrocks wrote:

andromeda96g wrote:The Andromeda vs ASG game was called with 5 minutes left of the game. If I understand the rules correctly, this game should be replayed.

Concerning the Texans/FC Dallas game....do we know if it starts completely over or does it pick-up where the game left off?
Would be pretty tough luck for FCD (but obviously a nice break for Texans) if the 2-0 lead was negated and they started over.
How deep did the game get into the 2nd half?

I heard it starts over...mulligan about 15 minutes into second half.

BTW LHGCL needs an evacuation plan for UTD. That is ridiculous expecting EVERYONE to funnel out one entrance. What if there was an actual tornado?!? There's no shelter in place available, they need to open the back gate and funnel everyone out ASAP. This happened in state cup 2 yrs ago.

socrocks wrote:

andromeda96g wrote:The Andromeda vs ASG game was called with 5 minutes left of the game. If I understand the rules correctly, this game should be replayed.

Concerning the Texans/FC Dallas game....do we know if it starts completely over or does it pick-up where the game left off?
Would be pretty tough luck for FCD (but obviously a nice break for Texans) if the 2-0 lead was negated and they started over.
How deep did the game get into the 2nd half?

Pulled this from a 97 thread:

From the LHGCL Rules

IV. LHGCL PLAY
A. LHGCL play is governed by FIFA Laws of the Game, as modified for youth play.
B. Age Division Placement: Teams will be placed in divisions according the age of their oldest player. Each team is required to play in its proper age division in the soccer year except as provided in these rules, or unless special scheduling of the age group is approved by the LHGCL Executive Board.
C. Season Play
1. Schedules: The Executive Director shall establish his/her own method of scheduling games, subject to LHGCL Executive Board approval, among teams in all age divisions each season and shall establish the schedule with the intent of having teams play the most competitive schedule possible.
2. Spring scheduling will allow for State Cup play.
3. Incomplete Games: Regular season league games that are stopped short for any reason, other than acts on the part of one of the teams, will be rescheduled and played in their entirety

LonDrew wrote:

socrocks wrote:

andromeda96g wrote:The Andromeda vs ASG game was called with 5 minutes left of the game. If I understand the rules correctly, this game should be replayed.

Concerning the Texans/FC Dallas game....do we know if it starts completely over or does it pick-up where the game left off?
Would be pretty tough luck for FCD (but obviously a nice break for Texans) if the 2-0 lead was negated and they started over.
How deep did the game get into the 2nd half?

Pulled this from a 97 thread:

From the LHGCL Rules

IV. LHGCL PLAY
A. LHGCL play is governed by FIFA Laws of the Game, as modified for youth play.
B. Age Division Placement: Teams will be placed in divisions according the age of their oldest player. Each team is required to play in its proper age division in the soccer year except as provided in these rules, or unless special scheduling of the age group is approved by the LHGCL Executive Board.
C. Season Play
1. Schedules: The Executive Director shall establish his/her own method of scheduling games, subject to LHGCL Executive Board approval, among teams in all age divisions each season and shall establish the schedule with the intent of having teams play the most competitive schedule possible.
2. Spring scheduling will allow for State Cup play.
3. Incomplete Games: Regular season league games that are stopped short for any reason, other than acts on the part of one of the teams, will be rescheduled and played in their entirety

ASG vs Andromeda game was done, 2 goals behind Andro coach ducking behind trash can to stay dry and ref blowing his whistle looking to the center circle. Surely the parent driving this bus doesn't beleive they were going to score 3 goals in 3 minutes.

dwmsport wrote:

LonDrew wrote:

socrocks wrote:

andromeda96g wrote:The Andromeda vs ASG game was called with 5 minutes left of the game. If I understand the rules correctly, this game should be replayed.

Concerning the Texans/FC Dallas game....do we know if it starts completely over or does it pick-up where the game left off?
Would be pretty tough luck for FCD (but obviously a nice break for Texans) if the 2-0 lead was negated and they started over.
How deep did the game get into the 2nd half?

Pulled this from a 97 thread:

From the LHGCL Rules

IV. LHGCL PLAY
A. LHGCL play is governed by FIFA Laws of the Game, as modified for youth play.
B. Age Division Placement: Teams will be placed in divisions according the age of their oldest player. Each team is required to play in its proper age division in the soccer year except as provided in these rules, or unless special scheduling of the age group is approved by the LHGCL Executive Board.
C. Season Play
1. Schedules: The Executive Director shall establish his/her own method of scheduling games, subject to LHGCL Executive Board approval, among teams in all age divisions each season and shall establish the schedule with the intent of having teams play the most competitive schedule possible.
2. Spring scheduling will allow for State Cup play.
3. Incomplete Games: Regular season league games that are stopped short for any reason, other than acts on the part of one of the teams, will be rescheduled and played in their entirety

ASG vs Andromeda game was done, 2 goals behind Andro coach ducking behind trash can to stay dry and ref blowing his whistle looking to the center circle. Surely the parent driving this bus doesn't beleive they were going to score 3 goals in 3 minutes.

Well they have removed the Andro/ASG game, so apparently the game is going to be rescheduled.

This rule seems inequitable and appears to favor the team that is behind in the match. How is it fair to the teams that battled 75+ minutes, and were ahead in the match, to have to replay the entire game? Why can't the teams meet at a later time and continue the game where it was called-giving the coach of the trailing team the discretion as to whether to continue or not? As it pertains to this past weekend's games, my guess is there wouldn't be many coach or teams lining up to finish the last 5 minutes of the game. And since field space & time seem to be at a premium for LH, they could have all the teams report to 1 field & finish them all in 1 weekday night. And yes, I know the argument that the same game conditions cannot be recreated. But to make a team that worked very hard to build and maintain a lead over 75+ minutes, have to replay that entire game over, seems more of a punishment than fair play. Good luck to all the teams that were leading their games and now must replay them. I hope all of you win, because that would be the only just result. And to the LH rules committee, please reconsider this rule and replace it with one that is fair to all parties.

Stoke City wrote:This rule seems inequitable and appears to favor the team that is behind in the match. How is it fair to the teams that battled 75+ minutes, and were ahead in the match, to have to replay the entire game? Why can't the teams meet at a later time and continue the game where it was called-giving the coach of the trailing team the discretion as to whether to continue or not? As it pertains to this past weekend's games, my guess is there wouldn't be many coach or teams lining up to finish the last 5 minutes of the game. And since field space & time seem to be at a premium for LH, they could have all the teams report to 1 field & finish them all in 1 weekday night. And yes, I know the argument that the same game conditions cannot be recreated. But to make a team that worked very hard to build and maintain a lead over 75+ minutes, have to replay that entire game over, seems more of a punishment than fair play. Good luck to all the teams that were leading their games and now must replay them. I hope all of you win, because that would be the only just result. And to the LH rules committee, please reconsider this rule and replace it with one that is fair to all parties.

The last 10-15 minutes was played in a driving downpour with 40-50 MPH winds and thunder overhead. IMO the game should have been called much earlier, or were the refs waiting for lightning to hit somebody first.

Actually storm came in with 7 minutes left in the game. This really isn't a question of time, storm, or referees, but more about sportmanship and what we're teaching our players. In this case both teams dealt with all of the same conditions, played hard and one team fell short on this day. Does looking for a way out or a do over because their own efforts weren't enough on this particular outing send a message that we as parents want to promote? The game will be played over, and the results will be left up to the players as it should be. But on that day we all know who won the game and no parent/adult politics and posturing will take that away from the teams that played to their potentail.

dwmsport wrote:Actually storm came in with 7 minutes left in the game. This really isn't a question of time, storm, or referees, but more about sportmanship and what we're teaching our players. In this case both teams dealt with all of the same conditions, played hard and one team fell short on this day. Does looking for a way out or a do over because their own efforts weren't enough on this particular outing send a message that we as parents want to promote? The game will be played over, and the results will be left up to the players as it should be. But on that day we all know who won the game and no parent/adult politics and posturing will take that away from the teams that played to their potentail.

If it is NOT in Gotsoccer, it is not a win/loss.........
Sad that LH scheduled 'scrimmages' in windy, rainstorms........for over 50 mins.....

So the implication being made is that LH and/or some unscrupulous parents decided they didn't like the outcome of one (some?) of the U15 D2 games this past weekend so they decided to use the rain/storm towards the end of the game as an excuse for it to be replayed? (run-on sentences are cool, btw).

I hope you all realize how ridiculous that accusation is.

Gunners wrote:So the implication being made is that LH and/or some unscrupulous parents decided they didn't like the outcome of one (some?) of the U15 D2 games this past weekend so they decided to use the rain/storm towards the end of the game as an excuse for it to be replayed? (run-on sentences are cool, btw).

I hope you all realize how ridiculous that accusation is.

No. this is D3. Even more important to the powers that be.

There were both U-15 DII & DIII games interrupted at Chinn on Saturday-all with less than 10 minutes left to play. I am sure that this is not the first time this has happened and, given the crazy whether around here, it won't be the last. The point is, the rule that requires teams to replay an entire game over because it has been stopped for some reason is wrong. But since only a hand-full of teams were affected by this rule, I'm afraid this issue will be forgotten about until it happens again.

It happened to us a year ago with about 3 minutes left in the game... the game was replayed a couple weeks later. That is the rule so there is nothing to complain about. Our game last weekend was a 1-1 tie when the ref finally called it off.

Not really complaining, just pointing out the inequality of the rule. I agree that it is the rule the girls play under now and should be followed. The rule they had in place a few years ago was not any better (a game was considered complete if any part of the second half was played). I still do not understand why a game that has been interrupted cannot be continued at a different time, from the point in which it was halted. Did anyone at LH consider what I have purposed when they changed the rule? LH can do better and I hope they address this next summer.

I heard the lightning detector at Chinn Chapel is broken. There is no excuse for this negligence.

Who is bearing responsibility for the safety of our children???? Appears GLASA has some apologizing to do for those of us who were trusting them to protect us while visiting their venue.

An issue like this generally surfaces because someone (more specifically a specific team) has been "wronged" (or at least perceptually "wronged"). Which sort of means that the person complaining about the rule has a self-serving agenda. I take exception to the seeding process for State Cup and have brought attention to that issue, probably seeming to have a personal agenda....so I can sympathize with Stoke City on this one. Don't expect support from those unaffected (or those who benefit from status quo).

On this issue I tend to agree with SC. However, the issue being discussed should not be the specific game(s) being referenced (they are support for the argument) but should be the rule, itself. I also wonder why a game should be replayed in it's entirety (especially if it's 7/8 complete). In many tournaments, if the game reaches halftime, it's considered "officially completed." I don't really agree with that, either...but in a tournament format with time constraints I understand the implementation of the rule.

SC have you asked LH for an explanation? That might be a good place to start. They may have logical basis for the rule beyond your or my knowledge. If you don't get a good answer....make a move to affect change.

socrocks wrote:An issue like this generally surfaces because someone (more specifically a specific team) has been "wronged" (or at least perceptually "wronged"). Which sort of means that the person complaining about the rule has a self-serving agenda. I take exception to the seeding process for State Cup and have brought attention to that issue, probably seeming to have a personal agenda....so I can sympathize with Stoke City on this one. Don't expect support from those unaffected (or those who benefit from status quo).

On this issue I tend to agree with SC. However, the issue being discussed should not be the specific game(s) being referenced (they are support for the argument) but should be the rule, itself. I also wonder why a game should be replayed in it's entirety (especially if it's 7/8 complete). In many tournaments, if the game reaches halftime, it's considered "officially completed." I don't really agree with that, either...but in a tournament format with time constraints I understand the implementation of the rule.

SC have you asked LH for an explanation? That might be a good place to start. They may have logical basis for the rule beyond your or my knowledge. If you don't get a good answer....make a move to affect change.

Better yet, send them an e-mail with suggestions on how to fix the issues...I've heard they really like those. *giggle*

I know that any suggestions that I may have will fall on deaf ears at LH. They don't take too kindly to individual people telling them how to run their league. I figure the only way this rule will be reconsidered is to get enough team & club support. Regardless of whether your dd's team was affected this past weekend, ask your club to get involved. If you agree with me that the rule is inequitable, don't wait around until it impacts your dd's team. The next opprotunity to make a change is the summer 2011.