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Post by socrocks 06/12/10, 11:42 am

Gunners wrote:Not trying to restart the ECNL/NL debate, but I did find it surprising that NL was able to get all their games played this weekend. (including on Sunday).

It will be interesting to see how ECNL handles the reschedules. Due to scheduling restraints, I will be surprised if they are made up.

Because of the travel schedule and limited time, you are probably right.

One option that crossed my mind would be to let teams make it up through regional ECNL play. For example, Feet is not scheduled to play Solar as part of their normal regional schedule. That might be an option to accommodate some of the teams that didn't get their games in. Geographically, this probably wouldn't work for a number of teams, though.

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Post by zygor 06/12/10, 12:15 pm

socrocks wrote:
Gunners wrote:Not trying to restart the ECNL/NL debate, but I did find it surprising that NL was able to get all their games played this weekend. (including on Sunday).

It will be interesting to see how ECNL handles the reschedules. Due to scheduling restraints, I will be surprised if they are made up.

Because of the travel schedule and limited time, you are probably right.

One option that crossed my mind would be to let teams make it up through regional ECNL play. For example, Feet is not scheduled to play Solar as part of their normal regional schedule. That might be an option to accommodate some of the teams that didn't get their games in. Geographically, this probably wouldn't work for a number of teams, though.
Does that mean we get to replace our Sunday game vs. FC Bucks with Challenge 96 since we don't play them in regional play? That works for me. Very Happy
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Post by socrocks 06/12/10, 12:29 pm

zygor wrote:
socrocks wrote:
Gunners wrote:Not trying to restart the ECNL/NL debate, but I did find it surprising that NL was able to get all their games played this weekend. (including on Sunday).

It will be interesting to see how ECNL handles the reschedules. Due to scheduling restraints, I will be surprised if they are made up.

Because of the travel schedule and limited time, you are probably right.

One option that crossed my mind would be to let teams make it up through regional ECNL play. For example, Feet is not scheduled to play Solar as part of their normal regional schedule. That might be an option to accommodate some of the teams that didn't get their games in. Geographically, this probably wouldn't work for a number of teams, though.
Does that mean we get to replace our Sunday game vs. FC Bucks with Challenge 96 since we don't play them in regional play? That works for me. Very Happy

In your case, the answer is resoundingly NO! Your can have your choice between Surf, Mustang FC (NCal) or maybe even.......FC Dallas.
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Post by zygor 06/12/10, 12:41 pm

socrocks wrote:
zygor wrote:
socrocks wrote:
Gunners wrote:Not trying to restart the ECNL/NL debate, but I did find it surprising that NL was able to get all their games played this weekend. (including on Sunday).

It will be interesting to see how ECNL handles the reschedules. Due to scheduling restraints, I will be surprised if they are made up.

Because of the travel schedule and limited time, you are probably right.

One option that crossed my mind would be to let teams make it up through regional ECNL play. For example, Feet is not scheduled to play Solar as part of their normal regional schedule. That might be an option to accommodate some of the teams that didn't get their games in. Geographically, this probably wouldn't work for a number of teams, though.
Does that mean we get to replace our Sunday game vs. FC Bucks with Challenge 96 since we don't play them in regional play? That works for me. Very Happy

In your case, the answer is resoundingly NO! Your can have your choice between Surf, Mustang FC (NCal) or maybe even.......FC Dallas.
Noooo, not FC Dallas again.
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Post by socrocks 10/12/10, 09:58 am

Gunners wrote:Not trying to restart the ECNL/NL debate, but I did find it surprising that NL was able to get all their games played this weekend. (including on Sunday).

It will be interesting to see how ECNL handles the reschedules. Due to scheduling restraints, I will be surprised if they are made up.
From the ECNL Board:

ECNL Member Clubs:

This Member Update will provide you with information regarding the impact of the shortened and cancelled games in last weekend's ECNL Final Four Showcase, and related changes to the standings for the remainder of the season.

Saturday's Games:

On Saturday, the ECNL made the decision to play the 3:20 PM games in hope that the snow that began lightly around 2:30 would quickly taper off, or that there would be little accumulation due to the warm ground temperature. Unfortunately, this was not the case. By 4:00 PM it was very clear that the snow was accumulating and would not be ending for several hours. At that point, the ECNL made the decision to stop the games that were being played to prevent unnecessary injuries that could occur on a heavy and slippery field. At this point, some games were into the second half, and some had just reached half-time.

After the games were stopped, the ECNL Board discussed how these games would be counted in the standings. Through this discussion, it was determined that every game that got to half-time or beyond would be counted in the standings and considered a complete game with the score at the time the game was stopped as the final score.

Sunday's Games:

In order to provide every chance of playing games on Sunday, the ECNL did not make a decision about Sunday games until 6:00 AM on Sunday when the fields were inspected. At this time, the fields were still covered with 1-2 inches of snow. More problematically, the snow had iced-over during the night, meaning that the snow was stiff underfoot. This presented concerns regarding the safety of playing on a snow / ice covered field. The ECNL then considered delaying games to give the snow / ice a chance to melt, but with the temperatures in the very low 30s, the only way this would realistically occur was if the fields were played upon and the snow / ice was broken up. Not only would this not address the safety concerns, it would also result in “mud pit” conditions that would destroy the quality of the game. At that point, the ECNL determined the best course of action was cancelling the games.

At this point, Sunday’s games will be considered as “cancelled” games. As this will result in teams within the ECNL playing different numbers of games this year, we will adjust the standings in every age group to a “points-per-game” basis (described below) to account for this. That said, the cancelled Sunday games may be rescheduled under the following conditions:

1) Both teams agree on the date, time, and location of a re-schedule no later than January 17, 2011. The complete reschedule information must be sent to the ECNL by this date.
2) The rescheduled game must be played no later than June 1, 2011.
3) The participating teams will be responsible for referee scheduling and costs.
4) The rescheduled game must be played under all ECNL playing rules. This includes no re-entry in a half, and no more than 1 game per day.
5) Once the game is rescheduled, the only acceptable reason for cancellation is weather that makes the game unplayable on the day of the reschedule. If the rescheduled game is not played for any other reason, unless special dispensation is provided by the ECNL Board, it will be considered a loss for both teams. If the rescheduled game is not played due to weather, it will be considered a “cancelled” game again.
6) If the teams cannot agree on a re-schedule date as described above, or if they simply do not wish to re-schedule the game as provided above, the game will be considered a “cancelled” game.

Future Standings - Points Per Game:

To account for the fact that most of the “cancelled” games from Sunday will not be able to be re-scheduled, the ECNL standings will be based on a “points per game” basis for the remainder of the year. A team’s points per game will be determined by dividing their total number of points in the standings by the number of games they have played. For example, a team with a 6-1-3 record (6 wins, 1 loss, 3 ties) would have 21 points. As they have played 10 games, this would result in a points per game of 2.1. In the event of a tie in points-per-game, the ECNL will use the tie-breakers listed in Rule 3.17 of the ECNL Competition Rules, but without the first tie-breaker of "Most Points."

Any of Sunday’s games that are re-scheduled pursuant to the procedure outlined above will be considered as completed games, and will be factored in to the points-per-game standings.

Conclusion:

The ECNL, CASL, and US Club Soccer made every effort possible to get the games on Saturday and Sunday completed in their entirety. Unfortunately, the weather prevented this from happening. The ECNL Board believes that the procedures outlined above are the best way to address these issues. Thank you for your participation in and support of the ECNL.

ECNL Board of Directors
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Post by Uncle Numanga 10/12/10, 02:38 pm

Conclusion:

The ECNL, CASL, and US Club Soccer made every effort possible to get the games on Saturday and Sunday completed in their entirety. Unfortunately, the weather prevented this from happening. The ECNL Board believes that the procedures outlined above are the best way to address these issues. Thank you for your participation in and support of the ECNL.

While the fields were hardly ideal, National League still managed to get the games in on Sunday. They did not become mud pits and the ball did slide a little, but in no ways were they unplayable or destroy the quality of the game. Now, we were in Wilson, NC, south of Raleigh, and maybe we didn't get as much snow but we got quite a bit. NAtional League did leave it up to the teams to decide what they wanted to do. We were scheduled to play SoCal Blues. It would have been hard for us to find another time to play, so both coaches opted to play Sunday. We were leading 1-0 until the final 7 minutes, when they tied us. All in all, a good game in poor conditions but worth the effort.
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