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bigheadpena- TxSoccer Postmaster
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happygilmore wrote:I have not heard that TFC is a declining team, in fact the day before, TFC tied the number one ranked Bates. TFC's a good solid team for a team with any 02's on it to beat, I don't think you have to be in the top 5 to be considered good, I think in the talent heavy 01 group top ten is pretty good.. I think everyone has lowered their oppion about FCD not based on Rowdies beating TFC but the outcome of their game against Kat's team. Maybe we should focus on how good Kat's team did rather than how bad FCD did. For all I know those girls could have just had a bad game , it happens when they are 8 or 9. But the same could be said for when they beat the Rowdies 2-1 , Rowdies could have had a bad game then too.jae wrote:No doubt that the Rowdies '02 is a strong team. But based on several posters on a different thread, the team that beat the declining TFC '01 team (they lost 2 games prior to this loss and no one has them ranked in top 5 BTW) is not Rowdies '02 team but a combined DT Farley '01 and Rowdies '02 team, which is perfectly legit since they are playing up. Anyone know the facts? If true, would you still rank them #1 over FCD for the '02 ranking purposes?
As far as the FCD and Kat game I think the coaching made the difference. It seemed like Kat's players had a game plan and were focused. FCD appeared to be just out there and playing to see what happens. IMO! Talked to a couple parents on FCD, they were very pleased to beat the Rowdies in the last tourney (they had zero 01's on the team). That means their team is headed in the right direction. They didn't feel they deserved the #1 ranking and now that they have slipped down a few they can now just focus on playing soccer. I do agree there are 7-8 very good teams in the 02 division.
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bigheadpena- TxSoccer Postmaster
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Dt south 03 played quest fc this weekend in grapevine and were 03 pure
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you were simply the last one who posted referring to the whole 03/02 team thing. I wrote your name at the top b/c a post came in while I was writing it and my post didn't fall directly behind your post-so I wanted you to know that this was a comment concerning the topic your post was referring to. That's why it said (it did not pertain directly to you, meaning you may not have been the one bragging or posting scores) but obviously you have a dd on the team, , so you get into it with other people on the forum, this crap is being started by people (perhaps on your team) who are posting scores and bragging about an 03 team beating 02 teams-when in fact 02's are being used..You are a little overly sensitive about this topic, my post was not mean spirited- it was letting you know why people "go at it" over this topic. Thanks for the nice reply tho, very classy.bigheadpena wrote:Then if you're not referring any of my post then why are you referring to me directly. I haven't posted a score in months! And where did I brag about beating an older 02 team anywhere on here. When did I ever say we didn't use any 02s? Do you're research and address specific individuals because I had nothing to do with anything in you're last post! So take the cockiness out of a you're a$$ and get it right. And thanks for the compliment about our girls.
PS So I guess quotes like "you guys need to learn to take a loss" and "I can hear it now it wasn't a true 03 team" aren't offenisive to any 02 teams at all.Even Without 02 players you have a top team, but keep it real, when you do use 02's who cares. Just don't try to pass it off as a pure 03 team dominating top 02 teams.
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toe_poker wrote:happygilmore wrote:I have not heard that TFC is a declining team, in fact the day before, TFC tied the number one ranked Bates. TFC's a good solid team for a team with any 02's on it to beat, I don't think you have to be in the top 5 to be considered good, I think in the talent heavy 01 group top ten is pretty good.. I think everyone has lowered their oppion about FCD not based on Rowdies beating TFC but the outcome of their game against Kat's team. Maybe we should focus on how good Kat's team did rather than how bad FCD did. For all I know those girls could have just had a bad game , it happens when they are 8 or 9. But the same could be said for when they beat the Rowdies 2-1 , Rowdies could have had a bad game then too.jae wrote:No doubt that the Rowdies '02 is a strong team. But based on several posters on a different thread, the team that beat the declining TFC '01 team (they lost 2 games prior to this loss and no one has them ranked in top 5 BTW) is not Rowdies '02 team but a combined DT Farley '01 and Rowdies '02 team, which is perfectly legit since they are playing up. Anyone know the facts? If true, would you still rank them #1 over FCD for the '02 ranking purposes?
As far as the FCD and Kat game I think the coaching made the difference. It seemed like Kat's players had a game plan and were focused. FCD appeared to be just out there and playing to see what happens. IMO! Talked to a couple parents on FCD, they were very pleased to beat the Rowdies in the last tourney (they had zero 01's on the team). That means their team is headed in the right direction. They didn't feel they deserved the #1 ranking and now that they have slipped down a few they can now just focus on playing soccer. I do agree there are 7-8 very good teams in the 02 division.
Really? What was the focus on before?
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I can certainly vouch for BHP being a jerk Just kidding, he is actually a very nice guy. Me on the other hand, that is a different story.bigheadpena wrote:03dad you're right I meant the 2nd game. Maybe yalls 02 group had players missing but there was a few 03 girls out there with them. And to tell you the truth who cares! If you need to fill a spot with an 03 or an 02 you still have to play whever is across the field from you. Its just some of you're parents have taken you're losses very personal and will never give our girls credit for winning. I pretty sure I know who are and you and I know where it stems from. I still always pull for you guys and still referr Gabe and Sal to any kid that is looking for a team.
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I thought that was a little odd myself.LHD wrote:toe_poker wrote:happygilmore wrote:I have not heard that TFC is a declining team, in fact the day before, TFC tied the number one ranked Bates. TFC's a good solid team for a team with any 02's on it to beat, I don't think you have to be in the top 5 to be considered good, I think in the talent heavy 01 group top ten is pretty good.. I think everyone has lowered their oppion about FCD not based on Rowdies beating TFC but the outcome of their game against Kat's team. Maybe we should focus on how good Kat's team did rather than how bad FCD did. For all I know those girls could have just had a bad game , it happens when they are 8 or 9. But the same could be said for when they beat the Rowdies 2-1 , Rowdies could have had a bad game then too.jae wrote:No doubt that the Rowdies '02 is a strong team. But based on several posters on a different thread, the team that beat the declining TFC '01 team (they lost 2 games prior to this loss and no one has them ranked in top 5 BTW) is not Rowdies '02 team but a combined DT Farley '01 and Rowdies '02 team, which is perfectly legit since they are playing up. Anyone know the facts? If true, would you still rank them #1 over FCD for the '02 ranking purposes?
As far as the FCD and Kat game I think the coaching made the difference. It seemed like Kat's players had a game plan and were focused. FCD appeared to be just out there and playing to see what happens. IMO! Talked to a couple parents on FCD, they were very pleased to beat the Rowdies in the last tourney (they had zero 01's on the team). That means their team is headed in the right direction. They didn't feel they deserved the #1 ranking and now that they have slipped down a few they can now just focus on playing soccer. I do agree there are 7-8 very good teams in the 02 division.
Really? What was the focus on before?
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LHD wrote:toe_poker wrote:happygilmore wrote:I have not heard that TFC is a declining team, in fact the day before, TFC tied the number one ranked Bates. TFC's a good solid team for a team with any 02's on it to beat, I don't think you have to be in the top 5 to be considered good, I think in the talent heavy 01 group top ten is pretty good.. I think everyone has lowered their oppion about FCD not based on Rowdies beating TFC but the outcome of their game against Kat's team. Maybe we should focus on how good Kat's team did rather than how bad FCD did. For all I know those girls could have just had a bad game , it happens when they are 8 or 9. But the same could be said for when they beat the Rowdies 2-1 , Rowdies could have had a bad game then too.jae wrote:No doubt that the Rowdies '02 is a strong team. But based on several posters on a different thread, the team that beat the declining TFC '01 team (they lost 2 games prior to this loss and no one has them ranked in top 5 BTW) is not Rowdies '02 team but a combined DT Farley '01 and Rowdies '02 team, which is perfectly legit since they are playing up. Anyone know the facts? If true, would you still rank them #1 over FCD for the '02 ranking purposes?
As far as the FCD and Kat game I think the coaching made the difference. It seemed like Kat's players had a game plan and were focused. FCD appeared to be just out there and playing to see what happens. IMO! Talked to a couple parents on FCD, they were very pleased to beat the Rowdies in the last tourney (they had zero 01's on the team). That means their team is headed in the right direction. They didn't feel they deserved the #1 ranking and now that they have slipped down a few they can now just focus on playing soccer. I do agree there are 7-8 very good teams in the 02 division.
Really? What was the focus on before?
I think they were referring to all the drama associated being ranked #1. It does seem like a lot. Some of yall are hilarious,you read way too much into a post! I'm so glad my DD is at the bottom of the top 10 because when a lower ranked team does well everyone says well done!
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jae wrote:No doubt that the Rowdies '02 is a strong team. But based on several posters on a different thread, the team that beat the declining TFC '01 team (they lost 2 games prior to this loss and no one has them ranked in top 5 BTW) is not Rowdies '02 team but a combined DT Farley '01 and Rowdies '02 team, which is perfectly legit since they are playing up. Anyone know the facts? If true, would you still rank them #1 over FCD for the '02 ranking purposes?
I don't know the facts but it's been said several top teams "mix-n-match" players however, IMHO the only legitimate rankings can only be made with "age pure"teams without guest players. Any other way and the results are nothing to be proud of as they are not the true measure of those particular teams talent or capabilities.
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Zidane wrote:I think we are seeing so much chatter is because the 02 age group does not appear to be very deep.
Why do you say that?
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Could be said about all age groups. Most age groups fall of after the top 8-10. My 04 dd's team is the only 04 team playing up in 03 and hasn't lost yet...does that mean the 03's arent deep? From what I can tell the 03 teams have 4 top teams then parity with the rest.Zidane wrote:It just looks to be top heavy....then a decent gap followed by bunch of everybody else.
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No Not really.....the 01's battle 1-16ish and depends on what team are missing and have sick players etc. and then also there are other age groups. But the problem exists between the 4 top clubs: FCD, Solar,Dallas Texans, Sting...they all beg borrow and steal from all and any other team to try and have the top team and win. They have to bc their job is on the line. Look AT BF from Sting who got fired and Tatu had to take over and now the 99's who were #1 are #10. And there are others.... But Those coaches truly care about development and given the choice I bet they hate that it is like this, but their clubs and DOC's and what they stand for demand it. and Most of them use it to recruit. And there are alot more quality coaches in Texas besides the four LARGE Clubs...but there are also alot more non-quality coaches in Texas also... more then most other states. California seems to have more top quality coaches then any other state as they believe in Coaching education.
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03dad wrote:ddsgotgame wrote:RoidRage wrote:Top 20 with record(If Provided)
1. Rowdies 1-0 (Beat TFC Guzman01 3-0 a top 5 01 team)
2. Webb02 3-1 (Beat FCD 2-1, has never lost to Glotz)
3. DT-Glotz 4-0 (Beat Stav 2-0...2-5 could go either way..Stav over Webb, Webb over FCD, Glotz over Stav, FCD beat Glotz and Rowdies in tourney)
4. FCD-Premier 1-1 (Lost to Webb 1-2, starting to think they used 01's in their tourny wins against Rowdies,Glotz and Fever)
5. Solar-Stav 3-1 (Beat Webb week 1 then lose to Glotz 0-2 with 2 top guests)
6. DT-South 2-0?? (Winning in SDL and PT)
7. Solar-Dynamo 2-2 (Lost to Webb and Stav this week)
8. Fever Red 2-0 (Beating PT!!!)
9. DT-North 0-2 (Good Def and Keeper..no offence against D-1 teams)
10.Feet 0-2-1 (Ties Solar East 0-0...also see DT-North Comment)
11.Solar East 1-1-2 (Tied Feet 0-0)
12.Andro-Patterson 1-0-1 (Beat Cosmos 1-0)
13.Solar-Tarrant 1-0-1 (On the way up Poll)
14.FCD-Renfro 1-0-1 (Tied Solar East 1-1..New to the Poll)
15.TFC-Wells 1-1 (Top TFC Team ?)
16.DT-Vigil 0-2 (Taking lumps in D-1...Glotz helping???)
17.Sparta ?? (1-0 in PT...need this weeks results)
18.TFC -Larry 0-2 (1 GF 16GA...moving down poll)
19.Polaris ?? (1-0 in PT...need this weeks results)
20.Aces Black 1-1 (Playing D-2..lost to Solar East,Beat Liverpool-Thomp)
Out of Poll- Fusion(Lost to TFC-Wells 8-1), Texas Spirit North(No info), Sting-Sheppard(Playing in D-3)
Some 03 teams only play up in 02 Div...so Ill throw them a bone...
1.SRSA Webb03 1-1 (Would be ranked behind Fever at 9th)
2.DT-South03 3-0 (Would be ranked behind TFC-Wells at 16th)
3.Feet03 1-1 (Would be ranked 20th behind Polaris)
Some of these 03 teams might of beat higher ranked 02's last season, but I dont know)
These Rankings are only for fun...so dont throw a fit!!!
A polite (don't throw a fit) correction - SRSA Webb '03 is playing '02 D1
Correct me if Im wrong since your sweeper and stopper are both 02s doesnt that make you a 02 team now? Or at least 02/03
SO I WILL CORRECT YOU ! I Wouldn't look at it as being an 03/02 team, Its and 03 team with a sweeper and a stopper playing for an 03 team. AITY!
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bigheadpena wrote:03dad you're right I meant the 2nd game. Maybe yalls 02 group had players missing but there was a few 03 girls out there with them. And to tell you the truth who cares! If you need to fill a spot with an 03 or an 02 you still have to play whever is across the field from you. Its just some of you're parents have taken you're losses very personal and will never give our girls credit for winning. I pretty sure I know who are and you and I know where it stems from. I still always pull for you guys and still referr Gabe and Sal to any kid that is looking for a team.
I agree with you "bigheadpena"! I think is time for u guys to give the team credit where its DUE. U win some and you lose some. This Solar 03 team is awesome with a capital A, I must say. These girls Play hard, Play smart and Play together. Dont hate the players hate the game!
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mcik17 wrote:Could be said about all age groups. Most age groups fall of after the top 8-10. My 04 dd's team is the only 04 team playing up in 03 and hasn't lost yet...does that mean the 03's arent deep? From what I can tell the 03 teams have 4 top teams then parity with the rest.Zidane wrote:It just looks to be top heavy....then a decent gap followed by bunch of everybody else.
History shows that top teams from younger age groups perform well in older age groups. Especially when they play in the lower divisions, like DIII.
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Bottom line, you play the team and if you get beat you get beat....Only people who care are the people who want to rank the teams and the parents who lose
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