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Post by Staywide 09/09/11, 11:26 am

Mega Man02 wrote:
soccer4ever wrote:
Texdad wrote:Anybody that defends club politics is dumber than a box of rocks. You guys that are ripping on the Glotz parents either work for the Texans, or your daughters are bench players and you have a huge chip on your shoulder.


Anyone that believes a club would tell a coach to throw a game is an IDIOT and has no business being in Club Soccer. Better yet, to get on a forum and accuse a Director ("the boss") of telling his employee that he can't win the game is absolutely ridiculous. Shame on you people.

Go back to the rec leagues where everyone is a winner! The parents on this team have posted and said enough, those of us that have older DD's can see...the parents are obviously a problem.
Like I Previously stated if you have know idea what's going on shut-up!!

Ah grasshopper...maybe you should look in the mirror!

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Post by soccer4ever 09/09/11, 11:29 am

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Mega Man02 wrote:
soccer4ever wrote:
Texdad wrote:Anybody that defends club politics is dumber than a box of rocks. You guys that are ripping on the Glotz parents either work for the Texans, or your daughters are bench players and you have a huge chip on your shoulder.


Anyone that believes a club would tell a coach to throw a game is an IDIOT and has no business being in Club Soccer. Better yet, to get on a forum and accuse a Director ("the boss") of telling his employee that he can't win the game is absolutely ridiculous. Shame on you people.

Go back to the rec leagues where everyone is a winner! The parents on this team have posted and said enough, those of us that have older DD's can see...the parents are obviously a problem.
Like I Previously stated if you have know idea what's going on shut-up!!

And do you really think this is the first time something like this has happened in any select sport...NO, it's NOT!

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Post by Pitch Man 09/09/11, 11:30 am

Does anyone know what the record is for the longest thread on this forum? I'm thinking that for all the folks who value winning and who are posting on this thread, there may be a trophy for longest thread . . .
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Post by Littleboyblue 09/09/11, 11:41 am

If so I sure hope the Glotz parents win it...hate to see the thread and accusations if they didnt. Im sure it would go something like "some of our starter parents were pulled and not allowed to post"..."Our lead poster was told to back off in the final postings"...."We were screwed and some of our postings were deleted by the moderater"....

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Post by Guest 09/09/11, 11:50 am

Littleboyblue wrote:If so I sure hope the Glotz parents win it...hate to see the thread and accusations if they didnt. Im sure it would go something like "some of our starter parents were pulled and not allowed to post"..."Our lead poster was told to back off in the final postings"...."We were screwed and some of our postings were deleted by the moderater"....
Our bench player parents ruined it for us bc they did not post!!! We beat Rowdies parents bc they did not contribute -we did all the work-Dont take this away from us. DM didn't pick our girls but "by golly" we are good enough!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Would it sound like this???????????????

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Post by Texdad 09/09/11, 12:00 pm

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Texdad wrote:Anybody that defends club politics is dumber than a box of rocks. You guys that are ripping on the Glotz parents either work for the Texans, or your daughters are bench players and you have a huge chip on your shoulder.


Anyone that believes a club would tell a coach to throw a game is an IDIOT and has no business being in Club Soccer. Better yet, to get on a forum and accuse a Director ("the boss") of telling his employee that he can't win the game is absolutely ridiculous. Shame on you people.

Go back to the rec leagues where everyone is a winner! The parents on this team have posted and said enough, those of us that have older DD's can see...the parents are obviously a problem.

Oh, you have an older DD so you are an expert. Now I get it.
What a joke. Unless you are Mia Hamm's father or your daughter is on the US womens national team, no one from the younger teams gives a crap about your so called expertise on club soccer. You and your multiple aliases are getting all bent out of shape over this thread which tells me you work for the Texans. Quit attacking Glotz parents and focus on your DD's age group. With all of your name calling, you are just making the Texans organization look worse than they already do.

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Post by Observer 09/09/11, 12:03 pm

Here's a thought...

Yes the parents questioned the move at the end of the game but there was absolutely no intention to have the coach leave. Glotz always has had open communication with the parents. There was NO direct answer given to ANY of the parents when asked...except for a random "I did what I had to do"...

The lack of an explanation to parents... that normally is given in any other situation...was the problem. His cryptic answer was a huge red flag for parents...not standard operating procedure...

Thus the conspiracy theory started...

So all you Glotz parent haters out there...what would you think?

He all of a sudden will not communicate to parents as he usually does...then walks away. I am sure there were some fired up parents that called and pressed for answers and maybe that is what pushed him out. MOST of the parents DID NOT pressure him for an answer at the time and were being patient to hear his explanation in time... It only takes a few bad apples and all Glotz parents did not participate... you people know better than to lump all parents on a team into one basket.

Sure Glotz will warn new coach who the problem parents are so the rest are not worried...and, yes, ALL the Glotz girls showed up for practice because they want to stick together and have 2 games to play this weekend. If the texans organization decides to divide them up this fall that could be a mistake...though is is going to happen sooner or later.

Parents just want the girls to stay together as long as possible. Not to win trophies...but to continue the unique and tight relationship most of them have with one another.

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Post by Mega Man02 09/09/11, 12:11 pm

Texdad wrote:
soccer4ever wrote:
Texdad wrote:Anybody that defends club politics is dumber than a box of rocks. You guys that are ripping on the Glotz parents either work for the Texans, or your daughters are bench players and you have a huge chip on your shoulder.


Anyone that believes a club would tell a coach to throw a game is an IDIOT and has no business being in Club Soccer. Better yet, to get on a forum and accuse a Director ("the boss") of telling his employee that he can't win the game is absolutely ridiculous. Shame on you people.

Go back to the rec leagues where everyone is a winner! The parents on this team have posted and said enough, those of us that have older DD's can see...the parents are obviously a problem.

Oh, you have an older DD so you are an expert. Now I get it.
What a joke. Unless you are Mia Hamm's father or your daughter is on the US womens national team, no one from the younger teams gives a crap about your so called expertise on club soccer. You and your multiple aliases are getting all bent out of shape over this thread which tells me you work for the Texans. Quit attacking Glotz parents and focus on your DD's age group. With all of your name calling, you are just making the Texans organization look worse than they already do.
You are correct. This moron is under the influence of drugs or something. With all your Expert Knowledge Of the game you should be a coach. LOL.
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Post by Guest 09/09/11, 12:17 pm

Observer wrote:Here's a thought...

Yes the parents questioned the move at the end of the game but there was absolutely no intention to have the coach leave. Glotz always has had open communication with the parents. There was NO direct answer given to ANY of the parents when asked...except for a random "I did what I had to do"...

The lack of an explanation to parents... that normally is given in any other situation...was the problem. His cryptic answer was a huge red flag for parents...not standard operating procedure...

Thus the conspiracy theory started...

So all you Glotz parent haters out there...what would you think?

He all of a sudden will not communicate to parents as he usually does...then walks away. I am sure there were some fired up parents that called and pressed for answers and maybe that is what pushed him out. MOST of the parents DID NOT pressure him for an answer at the time and were being patient to hear his explanation in time... It only takes a few bad apples and all Glotz parents did not participate... you people know better than to lump all parents on a team into one basket.

Sure Glotz will warn new coach who the problem parents are so the rest are not worried...and, yes, ALL the Glotz girls showed up for practice because they want to stick together and have 2 games to play this weekend. If the texans organization decides to divide them up this fall that could be a mistake...though is is going to happen sooner or later.

Parents just want the girls to stay together as long as possible. Not to win trophies...but to continue the unique and tight relationship most of them have with one another.
A UNITED group who throws the bench kids under the bus!Really????? Do you not think these "bench" parents read the post also- I'm sure they will be looking for a team after this crap. Dont fool yourself you have some Rowdie /Higgy wannabees on your team . Th sad thing is the constant talk about the bench players blah blah blah-if your parents are bold enough to post that on a public forum-I wonder how much trickles down to their kids and over to the bench players kids. This is about kids-you should tell your team that.

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Post by happygilmore 09/09/11, 12:22 pm

Mega Man02 wrote:
Gunners wrote:
Staywide wrote:
GuessMe wrote:Amen to that. Why don't the parents who were involved in this go ahead and pack up their bags and leave? Better yet, why would you want to stay at a club you suspect of being that nefarious? Plus, I'm not sure you're too welcome here anyway. Enough is enough. You've imploded this team. I'm sure the other team's parents are wondering what kind of freak show this is. Although I suspect a few of them know the history.

Agree! But, as expected the full squad was at training last night...at least the girls were able to say hello/goodbye to Coach Jason. He came to practice last night to see the girls. Class act!!!

Ten pages of posts (most of which are by parents on the team) with "hard facts" pointing to the "biggest fraud in the history of academy soccer" and the parents didn't move their kids away from these atrocities? What a load of garbage all of this has been.

I hope the parents involved feel good about the unwarranted damage they've done to the reputation of a great person and coach. Well played...morons.
Listen this was not about a coach that lost a game. Its about the system he was put into. He was told not to win by his boss. The man was a dam good coach. He taught the girls alot about the game of soccer. The parents never had a issue with him. Glotz gave up alot for this team. He was put in a very stressful situation. Maybe the reason his team never played May/Higgs team, was they knew this would be the out come. It's was a time bomb waiting to exploed. The problem I have is he walk away from the team. Why not tell the parents " you don't like the way I coach. ok go to another team." But he didn't do that he left. Players don't make a team a Coach makes a team. And by him doing that, does that show the DD's hay when it gets tough just quit and walk away.
Rowdies played Glotz twice that I know of , beat them easily once 3-0 (at TFC fields) and played them a second time 2-0 (At Andromeda fields) they played us better that time. But check facts because these two teams have played before without a doubt.We also have played Texans Penn and beat them.

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Post by Txfutboldad 09/09/11, 12:25 pm

[quote="Staywide"]
mcik17 wrote:
Staywide wrote:
goalgetter wrote:
Mega Man02 wrote:
happygilmore wrote:
goalgetter wrote:
mcik17 wrote:Let me make this whole situation real for everyone. I have never hid who I am or what team I'm affliated and I wasn't even really sure I wanted to post anything about this situation and just add to the drama, but let me tell you I learned tonight that this is real to a little 10 year old girl and not just some forum drama!

First off, I'm not sure if I'm mad at Glotz, or the Texans, or the parent drama including myself....maybe its all the above! I think what Glotz did this weekend was wrong and obvious...I'm not sure why he would do it but it happened and I told him I wasn't happy. Everyone that wasnt at the game doesn't know. Don't act like its just 9 yr old soccer and our kids don't care because they do care. They knew it was a big game, they talked about it and I'm sure heard the parents talk about it. You should of seen the girls when they scored the go ahead goal...they were going crazy...it wasn't just the normal reaction...they knew what they were accomplishing. And Glotzbach didn't seem to want to give them every chance at that victory. I'm still not sure why?

Now to the part that really made it hit home. I told my dd tonight that Coach Glotzbach was quiting and guess what her response was? Is it because we didn't beat the Rowdies? Now do you think she knew it was a big game? Then she started crying and tried to hide the fact she was crying. If anyone knows my dd she doesn't cry...she is the "Stone Cold Goalie" no emotion! Then she blamed herself and said if I just hadn't let that last goal in! At this point I'm getting upset and pissed at the same time. Why is my dd blaming herself for a coach leaving? She obviously loves this coach and he was always great with them. This is testament to how good of a coach he was...the girls love him!! I tried to tell her it was just a coaching change and it always happens. She cried herself to sleep tonight. She doesn't want to lose her coach or her friends! But, I am having a hard time justifying leaving her with the Texans if this is how its run! But, I don't want to add to my dd's emotions by taking her away from her friends also! I'm at a crossroads with no good outcome for my dd.

The new plan is for the both Higgabothams(Rowdies) and Bennett(ex Glotz) to practice together as one unit with 2 coaches. I assume this fall season the teams will stay seperate for game purposes. Then I assume they will make a super team and a "b" team. I also assume when this happens there will be upset parents that will take their dd's elsewhere and then the 2nd team will most likely implode again and this whole drama scene will start all over again. So basically if we stay we will be kicking the can down the road and putting off the inevitable! Of course if your dd makes the top team everything will be fine until playing time issues arise. I'm just not sure if I want to go thru the drama again in a couple of months right before signing contract time and have to scramble to find a team at the last moment because my dd didn't make the "A" team and most girls that made the "b" teams decided to go find greener pastures. This is the senario I'm afraid of happening!

What do I do? I have a good team that wants my dd. But, my dd and our family also have very good friends that we will miss dearly! This whole situation sucks!


Hell yeah it sucks! The Texans don't care about this team. All they want are numbers to chose from to add to their all mighty Rowdies/Texans team. They want to play the parents like fools keep em coming out and make em feel that the team is just as important. When all they really want is to develop 3 to 5 girls to add to Higgs team. That is really not a bad plan, but when the parents are being told one thing and then the club does the total opposite it let's you know that the only thing being looked out for is the Club and not the DD's that put in all the hard work. I'm not bitter about the Higg team I will be the first to say that my DD is not on that level YET!! Just tired of everybody worrying about what the Higg team is doing?? Who cares what they are doing.....the only concern here should be Glotz team. This team is a really good team and has closed the gap significantly. No need to mix up the teams. This team is a team that don't depend on just 2 or 3 studs, every DD on the team brings something special to the team from top to bottom. And the chemistry that they have built up is impressive. I would hate to see all this hard work go to waste over some clubs greed....this team has the potential to be the top team in 02's. Just don't get why some people are so ready to jump ship... not saying you are Mcik I know you are very committed to your dd and the team. If the parents are really sincere about keeping this team in tact then in my little opinion I think the best thing going foward would be to take the team as a whole to another club. This would take the team out from under the shadows of the Higg team and really allow the team to compete to their max potential. Their is something to be said about buiding it, develop it, and earning it. This team is right there on the doorstep pounding in the door. I don't know I'm just saying........K Medina and camp looking pretty good at Sting!!!!
NEWSFLASH parents----YOU are the CUSTOMERS , they (Ryan, Jason, Tim, Hassien) work for you, you pay them!!!!! If you are not happy keep your solid team together and find a club that will treat you right. No one want to see a good TExans team leave -but if you all are this fed up-ban together and leave or threathen to until you get what you want. [/quote]
All I have to say is Your Right.
agreed!!

mcik17 -
Please say that you don't believe this BS that Jason didn't coach to win that game!!! The only thing that sucks about this game is the parents probably didn't truly congratulate their daughters with complete excitement about playing such a great game as a TEAM...they were pissed about some fabricated idea. I have a perfect example of why Jason did NOT coach to lose..but instead he wanted to allow ALL the girls to feel somewhat part of the BIG game. And, instead of saying 'Thank You' to Jason for doing a great job developing the girls and helping them enjoy the game...it was the mob looking for blood. I congratulate Jason for telling all the parents that attacked him "goodbye!" Truly unfortunate for the girls that the parents had to be immature ones.


I will let you answer your own question with this one fact. With 8 minutes to go Glotz was down by one and had his top 2 scorers on the bench and they never were subed in the game and he put his 3rd leading scorer back at defender. Now your question was did I really think he wasn't trying to win? Maybe you are CHARLIE SHEEN and your view of WINNING is differant than mine, but if your trying to win you put your best players/scorers in the game! What is your definition of winning?


Ah, I get it now. There is a true lack of understanding for the game amongst these 'conspiracy theory' parents. Someone led the charge at your 'parent meeting' lunch following the game...and I guess the rest just don't know any better and it made sense to them. Hence the decision at the lunch was to oust Jason as the coach.

Our definition of winning is the same. Our PERSPECTIVE on Jason's coaching decisions is completely different. To answer your question, you start your agrument at the 62 minute into the match (2 minutes into the 2nd overtime)...the winning goal was actually deeper into the match, but irrelevant. Before we continue with the last 8 minutes of the match, how was the first goal scored? Think about the string of passes that occured to tie the game at 1-1...was it just your so called 'starters' or 'best players' or 'top scorer'...NOPE. No one was complaining that the 'bench' players were on the field at that time... Ok, fast forward to the 62nd minute. Anyone that was there knows the wind played a significant role in this match. In the 2nd overtime period the Rowdies had the wind...EVERYONE knew all the girls were drained. Any coach would tell you at this point, for Glotz it was about holding on for 10 minutes to see if they could pull it out in PKs. The unfortunate goal for Glotz girls goes in. IMMEDIATELY, Jason subs in a forward for a weaker player at that position...where does she fall on your stat sheets for goal scorers? Did he do that to lose? No, he knew that this player/sub was a stronger option at forward than the player on the field...and he made the change! Regarding your other point, putting his '3rd leading scored' (as you call her) in an outside defender position was actually a smart move and a display of him trying to win the match. The Rowdies have speed on the outside (where they were most effective all match), and maybe just maybe he was trying to counter it with this sub...see it all the time at old ages. Na, had to be that he was trying to lose (not win).

Do you think Coach Tim knows the full details about these parent's accusations against their former coach..
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Now this is the most well-written and thought out thing I have read on this topic. I've got no dog in the fight, but I would tend to believe this over anything else written here. You make valid points. Every post was filled with so much emotion, as I read I could feel it building. This was a calming post. Kudos to you my friend.
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Post by Observer 09/09/11, 12:49 pm

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Observer wrote:Here's a thought...

Yes the parents questioned the move at the end of the game but there was absolutely no intention to have the coach leave. Glotz always has had open communication with the parents. There was NO direct answer given to ANY of the parents when asked...except for a random "I did what I had to do"...

The lack of an explanation to parents... that normally is given in any other situation...was the problem. His cryptic answer was a huge red flag for parents...not standard operating procedure...

Thus the conspiracy theory started...

So all you Glotz parent haters out there...what would you think?

He all of a sudden will not communicate to parents as he usually does...then walks away. I am sure there were some fired up parents that called and pressed for answers and maybe that is what pushed him out. MOST of the parents DID NOT pressure him for an answer at the time and were being patient to hear his explanation in time... It only takes a few bad apples and all Glotz parents did not participate... you people know better than to lump all parents on a team into one basket.

Sure Glotz will warn new coach who the problem parents are so the rest are not worried...and, yes, ALL the Glotz girls showed up for practice because they want to stick together and have 2 games to play this weekend. If the texans organization decides to divide them up this fall that could be a mistake...though is is going to happen sooner or later.

Parents just want the girls to stay together as long as possible. Not to win trophies...but to continue the unique and tight relationship most of them have with one another.
A UNITED group who throws the bench kids under the bus!Really????? Do you not think these "bench" parents read the post also- I'm sure they will be looking for a team after this crap. Dont fool yourself you have some Rowdie /Higgy wannabees on your team . Th sad thing is the constant talk about the bench players blah blah blah-if your parents are bold enough to post that on a public forum-I wonder how much trickles down to their kids and over to the bench players kids. This is about kids-you should tell your team that.

Let me clarify...did I mention the words "BENCH PLAYERS"? No. He put a PLAYER in at forward that has NEVER played there since being on the team. He put a PLAYER at forward that was rocking it on defense the whole game and does not play forward. Glotz played all his PLAYERS repeatedly unlike RH whose bench plays 10 min a game week after week. It was WHERE he put the PLAYERS... and their parents would be the first to ask why he did that in that situation. I also did not go down the "he was told to do it" road. No one is being thrown under the bus.

You are telling me you would not question a coach putting your DD in a position she has NEVER played in any other game, in a semi-final match of a tourney that would get you to the finals and play a team that you have tied twice and lost in pk's in the last 2 tournaments?

I do not believe you... or if you would be fine with that... you are way to cocky...is your DD that cocky? That may explain things...

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Post by churro_lover 09/09/11, 01:12 pm

The most obvious thing to me is that this public war of words has given a lot of Texan haters a chance to stir up trouble, tear down the team, make sure those girls go all different directions, and reduce the competition for their own clubs/02teams. I'm sure there were a few Glotz parents with one foot out the door for various reasons so they are stoking the fires. Glotz is not universally loved by some other coaches and parents from the past. He ain't no saint. There are Texan club haters are all over NTX cuz success will cause that everytime. The parents are all stirred up like a shaken hornets nest so its easy prey for guys that are calling them "morons" in earlier posts. My word of advice is take a breath, calm down, and don't let others screw up your team. It is your team, one stupid game incident aside.

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Post by Guest 09/09/11, 01:40 pm

Observer wrote:
AirForceOne wrote:
Observer wrote:Here's a thought...

Yes the parents questioned the move at the end of the game but there was absolutely no intention to have the coach leave. Glotz always has had open communication with the parents. There was NO direct answer given to ANY of the parents when asked...except for a random "I did what I had to do"...

The lack of an explanation to parents... that normally is given in any other situation...was the problem. His cryptic answer was a huge red flag for parents...not standard operating procedure...

Thus the conspiracy theory started...

So all you Glotz parent haters out there...what would you think?

He all of a sudden will not communicate to parents as he usually does...then walks away. I am sure there were some fired up parents that called and pressed for answers and maybe that is what pushed him out. MOST of the parents DID NOT pressure him for an answer at the time and were being patient to hear his explanation in time... It only takes a few bad apples and all Glotz parents did not participate... you people know better than to lump all parents on a team into one basket.

Sure Glotz will warn new coach who the problem parents are so the rest are not worried...and, yes, ALL the Glotz girls showed up for practice because they want to stick together and have 2 games to play this weekend. If the texans organization decides to divide them up this fall that could be a mistake...though is is going to happen sooner or later.

Parents just want the girls to stay together as long as possible. Not to win trophies...but to continue the unique and tight relationship most of them have with one another.
A UNITED group who throws the bench kids under the bus!Really????? Do you not think these "bench" parents read the post also- I'm sure they will be looking for a team after this crap. Dont fool yourself you have some Rowdie /Higgy wannabees on your team . Th sad thing is the constant talk about the bench players blah blah blah-if your parents are bold enough to post that on a public forum-I wonder how much trickles down to their kids and over to the bench players kids. This is about kids-you should tell your team that.

Let me clarify...did I mention the words "BENCH PLAYERS"? No. He put a PLAYER in at forward that has NEVER played there since being on the team. He put a PLAYER at forward that was rocking it on defense the whole game and does not play forward. Glotz played all his PLAYERS repeatedly unlike RH whose bench plays 10 min a game week after week. It was WHERE he put the PLAYERS... and their parents would be the first to ask why he did that in that situation. I also did not go down the "he was told to do it" road. No one is being thrown under the bus.

You are telling me you would not question a coach putting your DD in a position she has NEVER played in any other game, in a semi-final match of a tourney that would get you to the finals and play a team that you have tied twice and lost in pk's in the last 2 tournaments?

I do not believe you... or if you would be fine with that... you are way to cocky...is your DD that cocky? That may explain things...
I dont recall saying anything about you stating bench players , however if you check the previous post by your peer parents you will find this term used often. IF Cocky means -being concerned with feelings of 9 year old girls then yes I might be and yes my dd is too.

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Post by happygilmore 09/09/11, 01:46 pm

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Observer wrote:Here's a thought...

Yes the parents questioned the move at the end of the game but there was absolutely no intention to have the coach leave. Glotz always has had open communication with the parents. There was NO direct answer given to ANY of the parents when asked...except for a random "I did what I had to do"...

The lack of an explanation to parents... that normally is given in any other situation...was the problem. His cryptic answer was a huge red flag for parents...not standard operating procedure...

Thus the conspiracy theory started...

So all you Glotz parent haters out there...what would you think?

He all of a sudden will not communicate to parents as he usually does...then walks away. I am sure there were some fired up parents that called and pressed for answers and maybe that is what pushed him out. MOST of the parents DID NOT pressure him for an answer at the time and were being patient to hear his explanation in time... It only takes a few bad apples and all Glotz parents did not participate... you people know better than to lump all parents on a team into one basket.

Sure Glotz will warn new coach who the problem parents are so the rest are not worried...and, yes, ALL the Glotz girls showed up for practice because they want to stick together and have 2 games to play this weekend. If the texans organization decides to divide them up this fall that could be a mistake...though is is going to happen sooner or later.

Parents just want the girls to stay together as long as possible. Not to win trophies...but to continue the unique and tight relationship most of them have with one another.
A UNITED group who throws the bench kids under the bus!Really????? Do you not think these "bench" parents read the post also- I'm sure they will be looking for a team after this crap. Dont fool yourself you have some Rowdie /Higgy wannabees on your team . Th sad thing is the constant talk about the bench players blah blah blah-if your parents are bold enough to post that on a public forum-I wonder how much trickles down to their kids and over to the bench players kids. This is about kids-you should tell your team that.

Let me clarify...did I mention the words "BENCH PLAYERS"? No. He put a PLAYER in at forward that has NEVER played there since being on the team. He put a PLAYER at forward that was rocking it on defense the whole game and does not play forward. Glotz played all his PLAYERS repeatedly unlike RH whose bench plays 10 min a game week after week. WE Have played with Ryan 2 weeks -how exactly do you know what he does with his bench???? Unless you have been stalking games? It was WHERE he put the PLAYERS... and their parents would be the first to ask why he did that in that situation. I also did not go down the "he was told to do it" road. No one is being thrown under the bus.

You are telling me you would not question a coach putting your DD in a position she has NEVER played in any other game, in a semi-final match of a tourney that would get you to the finals and play a team that you have tied twice and lost in pk's in the last 2 tournaments?

I do not believe you... or if you would be fine with that... you are way to cocky...is your DD that cocky? That may explain things...

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OLD TIMER YOU ARE A COMPLETE IDIOT IF YOU DONT THINK WINING DOESNT MEAN ANYTHING AT ANY AGE... I have been doing this for over five years now i have not one but two girls in lake highlands. For the money it cost as parents and the TIME we put into it my dd's,coach,and my wife and I better give 100% to this. Parents it is crazy to think that that coach was doing what he did to get all the girls involved in the game so to speak cause it was a big game, stupid plum stupid if you think that. The game was decided before it ever started, old timer coaching,skills,and (TRYING TO WIN) is what select ball is about. Maybe you instead of mickey needs to go back to rec or better yet get your wallet out and start paying for college cause WINING doesn't mean much rt??? old timer let me let you in on a little secret most of the top girl's WINING (dang theres that word again) team's will get the college looks (this coming from one of his dd's in highschool). Not saying every girl in select will get a scholarship either. Gezzzzzz Evil or Very Mad

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Post by DT4L 09/09/11, 04:12 pm

[quote="happygilmore"]
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Gunners wrote:
Staywide wrote:
GuessMe wrote:Amen to that. Why don't the parents who were involved in this go ahead and pack up their bags and leave? Better yet, why would you want to stay at a club you suspect of being that nefarious? Plus, I'm not sure you're too welcome here anyway. Enough is enough. You've imploded this team. I'm sure the other team's parents are wondering what kind of freak show this is. Although I suspect a few of them know the history.

Agree! But, as expected the full squad was at training last night...at least the girls were able to say hello/goodbye to Coach Jason. He came to practice last night to see the girls. Class act!!!

Ten pages of posts (most of which are by parents on the team) with "hard facts" pointing to the "biggest fraud in the history of academy soccer" and the parents didn't move their kids away from these atrocities? What a load of garbage all of this has been.

I hope the parents involved feel good about the unwarranted damage they've done to the reputation of a great person and coach. Well played...morons.
Listen this was not about a coach that lost a game. Its about the system he was put into. He was told not to win by his boss. The man was a dam good coach. He taught the girls alot about the game of soccer. The parents never had a issue with him. Glotz gave up alot for this team. He was put in a very stressful situation. Maybe the reason his team never played May/Higgs team, was they knew this would be the out come. It's was a time bomb waiting to exploed. The problem I have is he walk away from the team. Why not tell the parents " you don't like the way I coach. ok go to another team." But he didn't do that he left. Players don't make a team a Coach makes a team. And by him doing that, does that show the DD's hay when it gets tough just quit and walk away.
[color=red]Rowdies played Glotz twice that I know of , beat them easily once 3-0 (at TFC fields) and played them a second time 2-0 (At Andromeda fields) they played us better that time. But check facts because these two teams have played before without a doubt.We also have played


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Post by Guest 09/09/11, 04:46 pm

futbaldad101 wrote: OLD TIMER YOU ARE A COMPLETE IDIOT IF YOU DONT THINK WINING DOESNT MEAN ANYTHING AT ANY AGE... I have been doing this for over five years now i have not one but two girls in lake highlands. For the money it cost as parents and the TIME we put into it my dd's,coach,and my wife and I better give 100% to this. Parents it is crazy to think that that coach was doing what he did to get all the girls involved in the game so to speak cause it was a big game, stupid plum stupid if you think that. The game was decided before it ever started, old timer coaching,skills,and (TRYING TO WIN) is what select ball is about. Maybe you instead of mickey needs to go back to rec or better yet get your wallet out and start paying for college cause WINING doesn't mean much rt??? old timer let me let you in on a little secret most of the top girl's WINING (dang theres that word again) team's will get the college looks (this coming from one of his dd's in highschool). Not saying every girl in select will get a scholarship either. Gezzzzzz Evil or Very Mad

It would be helpful if you would respond to the post you are commenting about. No one has replied to you because no one knows who you are speaking to. And instead of all of that kick ass "winning" you are doing, maybe you should go back to school and learn some grammar. Then your posts would make a little sense.

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Post by Pitch Man 09/09/11, 04:58 pm

giggedy wrote:
futbaldad101 wrote: OLD TIMER YOU ARE A COMPLETE IDIOT IF YOU DONT THINK WINING DOESNT MEAN ANYTHING AT ANY AGE... I have been doing this for over five years now i have not one but two girls in lake highlands. For the money it cost as parents and the TIME we put into it my dd's,coach,and my wife and I better give 100% to this. Parents it is crazy to think that that coach was doing what he did to get all the girls involved in the game so to speak cause it was a big game, stupid plum stupid if you think that. The game was decided before it ever started, old timer coaching,skills,and (TRYING TO WIN) is what select ball is about. Maybe you instead of mickey needs to go back to rec or better yet get your wallet out and start paying for college cause WINING doesn't mean much rt??? old timer let me let you in on a little secret most of the top girl's WINING (dang theres that word again) team's will get the college looks (this coming from one of his dd's in highschool). Not saying every girl in select will get a scholarship either. Gezzzzzz Evil or Very Mad

It would be helpful if you would respond to the post you are commenting about. No one has replied to you because no one knows who you are speaking to. And instead of all of that kick ass "winning" you are doing, maybe you should go back to school and learn some grammar. Then your posts would make a little sense.

Didn't understand the post or whose comments it was directed to, but the angry emoticon really spoke to me. Rolling Eyes
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Post by nopatience 09/09/11, 05:14 pm

churro_lover wrote:The most obvious thing to me is that this public war of words has given a lot of Texan haters a chance to stir up trouble, tear down the team, make sure those girls go all different directions, and reduce the competition for their own clubs/02teams. I'm sure there were a few Glotz parents with one foot out the door for various reasons so they are stoking the fires. Glotz is not universally loved by some other coaches and parents from the past. He ain't no saint. There are Texan club haters are all over NTX cuz success will cause that everytime. The parents are all stirred up like a shaken hornets nest so its easy prey for guys that are calling them "morons" in earlier posts. My word of advice is take a breath, calm down, and don't let others screw up your team. It is your team, one stupid game incident aside.

After reading the posts in this thread, I simply cannot come to a conclusion that the Texans, as a club, or the coach have done something wrong. I do not believe in this far fetched conspiracy theory. The thread is a sad indictment of the parents who created this controversy. This all seems to have been created in the minds of individuals (I am sorry mega, but I am speaking of you) who have an overinflated view of their child's abilities on the pitch as a means of trying to justify a loss and their child's inadequacies. The behavior should not be embarrassing to the club, but to the parents who initiated this so-called call to arms and to those who were naive enough to follow these mental giants. Furthermore, I suspect that this was not the first incident that coach Glotz has had to deal with and was merely the straw that broke the camel's back.

It will be very interesting to see how these individuals handle the next 9 or 10 months as select/signing approaches. There will be new players who show up in the spring. There will be even more new players who arrive in June. The teams that go select will be a shell of their current status. How will these folks react when "Betty" comes from Solar to take "Jenny's" spot? Get some perspective, some very objective perspective or you will otherwise make yourselves even more crazy than you already are. Sure, go ahead and bash me for not having a dog in this hunt and yada yada yada whatever else you can say, but I am right. The clubs want to accumulate as many players as they can get and the coaches will decide where or if your dd belongs. If your dd doesn't make the team, I am sure you will blame the coach for not recognizing her inherent "talent", the team for allowing such a travesty, or some other parent for kissing up. There will always be some excuse and you cannot just admit that at the present time there is someone better than your kid. It is a very hard pill to swallow, but get used to it!

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Post by pro16 09/09/11, 08:02 pm

Well, this thread might explain why people don't care for the Texans.
Would be interesting to see this play out face to face vs behind fake names and avatars.

BOL.
Wow.

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Post by Old Timer 09/09/11, 09:08 pm

futbaldad101 wrote: OLD TIMER YOU ARE A COMPLETE IDIOT IF YOU DONT THINK WINING DOESNT MEAN ANYTHING AT ANY AGE... I have been doing this for over five years now i have not one but two girls in lake highlands. For the money it cost as parents and the TIME we put into it my dd's,coach,and my wife and I better give 100% to this. Parents it is crazy to think that that coach was doing what he did to get all the girls involved in the game so to speak cause it was a big game, stupid plum stupid if you think that. The game was decided before it ever started, old timer coaching,skills,and (TRYING TO WIN) is what select ball is about. Maybe you instead of mickey needs to go back to rec or better yet get your wallet out and start paying for college cause WINING doesn't mean much rt??? old timer let me let you in on a little secret most of the top girl's WINING (dang theres that word again) team's will get the college looks (this coming from one of his dd's in highschool). Not saying every girl in select will get a scholarship either. Gezzzzzz Evil or Very Mad

Thanks for your opinion.

Last I heard, no one got any scholarships based on Academy level performance.

Our dd's have played in PL, NL, Red Bull, ECNL, Nationals and ODP Nationals so we are well aware that winnning at some point matters and the girls on the best teams during their Sophomore and Junior years land the $.

What you don't seem to understand yet is that select soccer is usually about 1 of 2 things:
. playing because you want to challenge yourself and be the best you can be
. and/or your DD's development and staging her for being on a top 2 team for those critical 2 years.

Team and record in the preceeding years do not matter a great deal. There are typically only a handful of original dd's on the top teams at U16-U17 that started there from U11 let alone academy.

Good luck on the journey.


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Post by Gunners 09/09/11, 09:14 pm

Old Timer wrote:
futbaldad101 wrote: OLD TIMER YOU ARE A COMPLETE IDIOT IF YOU DONT THINK WINING DOESNT MEAN ANYTHING AT ANY AGE... I have been doing this for over five years now i have not one but two girls in lake highlands. For the money it cost as parents and the TIME we put into it my dd's,coach,and my wife and I better give 100% to this. Parents it is crazy to think that that coach was doing what he did to get all the girls involved in the game so to speak cause it was a big game, stupid plum stupid if you think that. The game was decided before it ever started, old timer coaching,skills,and (TRYING TO WIN) is what select ball is about. Maybe you instead of mickey needs to go back to rec or better yet get your wallet out and start paying for college cause WINING doesn't mean much rt??? old timer let me let you in on a little secret most of the top girl's WINING (dang theres that word again) team's will get the college looks (this coming from one of his dd's in highschool). Not saying every girl in select will get a scholarship either. Gezzzzzz Evil or Very Mad

Thanks for your opinion.

Last I heard, no one got any scholarships based on Academy level performance.

Our dd's have played in PL, NL, Nationals, ODP Nationals so we are well aware that winnning st some point matters and the girls on the best teams during their Sophomore and Junior years land the $. What you don't seem to understand yet is that select soccer is about your DD's development and staging her for being on a top 2 team for those critical 2 years. Team and record in the preceeding years does not matter a great deal. There are typically only a handful of original dd's on the top teams at U16-U17 that started there from U11 let alone academy.

Good luck on the journey.

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Post by happygilmore 09/09/11, 10:40 pm

DT4L wrote:
happygilmore wrote:
Mega Man02 wrote:
Gunners wrote:
Staywide wrote:
GuessMe wrote:Amen to that. Why don't the parents who were involved in this go ahead and pack up their bags and leave? Better yet, why would you want to stay at a club you suspect of being that nefarious? Plus, I'm not sure you're too welcome here anyway. Enough is enough. You've imploded this team. I'm sure the other team's parents are wondering what kind of freak show this is. Although I suspect a few of them know the history.

Agree! But, as expected the full squad was at training last night...at least the girls were able to say hello/goodbye to Coach Jason. He came to practice last night to see the girls. Class act!!!

Ten pages of posts (most of which are by parents on the team) with "hard facts" pointing to the "biggest fraud in the history of academy soccer" and the parents didn't move their kids away from these atrocities? What a load of garbage all of this has been.

I hope the parents involved feel good about the unwarranted damage they've done to the reputation of a great person and coach. Well played...morons.
Listen this was not about a coach that lost a game. Its about the system he was put into. He was told not to win by his boss. The man was a dam good coach. He taught the girls alot about the game of soccer. The parents never had a issue with him. Glotz gave up alot for this team. He was put in a very stressful situation. Maybe the reason his team never played May/Higgs team, was they knew this would be the out come. It's was a time bomb waiting to exploed. The problem I have is he walk away from the team. Why not tell the parents " you don't like the way I coach. ok go to another team." But he didn't do that he left. Players don't make a team a Coach makes a team. And by him doing that, does that show the DD's hay when it gets tough just quit and walk away.
Rowdies played Glotz twice that I know of , beat them easily once 3-0 (at TFC fields) and played them a second time 2-0 (At Andromeda fields) they played us better that time. But check facts because these two teams have played before without a doubt.We also have played Texans Penn and beat them.
you are one funny MF. I wish I could shake the hand of the most smartest person in Higgs group of fine out standing parents. You my fiend are the cream of the crop. I wish all our parents could be as smart as you are. Wow!!! I hope one day we can all have some beers and laugh at how big if a prick you really are. Lol you are some peace of work.
UMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM Okaaaaay! I Hoestly Dont get your beef man- JUST stating facts here. 3-0 is generally easy game -2-0 was pretty close. I dont claim to be the "MOST Smartest" person. But I do have a memory of games and scores , I'm sure there is a record somewhere that could be pulled to prove these stats. I was merely disputing the fellow who stated that DM (not a misspelling -stands for David May) never played or avoided the former Glotz team , when in fact we did play them twice, and won twice. This was not a matter of opinion-it was an actual end score. Even though I am not "most smartest" PERSON I do however know how to spell "FRIEND" "OF" "PIECE" (and a few other basic words) and I do know that "OUTSTANDING" is one word.If you are going to get upset might make it something worthwhile.

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Post by coachr 10/09/11, 12:46 am

I was watching the Anthony Bourdain episode about El Bulli closing and I thought "damn I'll never get to eat there".
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Post by Solar U17 10/09/11, 02:13 am

Gunners wrote:
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futbaldad101 wrote: OLD TIMER YOU ARE A COMPLETE IDIOT IF YOU DONT THINK WINING DOESNT MEAN ANYTHING AT ANY AGE... I have been doing this for over five years now i have not one but two girls in lake highlands. For the money it cost as parents and the TIME we put into it my dd's,coach,and my wife and I better give 100% to this. Parents it is crazy to think that that coach was doing what he did to get all the girls involved in the game so to speak cause it was a big game, stupid plum stupid if you think that. The game was decided before it ever started, old timer coaching,skills,and (TRYING TO WIN) is what select ball is about. Maybe you instead of mickey needs to go back to rec or better yet get your wallet out and start paying for college cause WINING doesn't mean much rt??? old timer let me let you in on a little secret most of the top girl's WINING (dang theres that word again) team's will get the college looks (this coming from one of his dd's in highschool). Not saying every girl in select will get a scholarship either. Gezzzzzz Evil or Very Mad

Thanks for your opinion.

Last I heard, no one got any scholarships based on Academy level performance.

Our dd's have played in PL, NL, Nationals, ODP Nationals so we are well aware that winnning st some point matters and the girls on the best teams during their Sophomore and Junior years land the $. What you don't seem to understand yet is that select soccer is about your DD's development and staging her for being on a top 2 team for those critical 2 years. Team and record in the preceeding years does not matter a great deal. There are typically only a handful of original dd's on the top teams at U16-U17 that started there from U11 let alone academy.

Good luck on the journey.
Nice post. Agree # truth..........hey Gunners, maybe we can make it trend
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