Soccer, college, and beyond...questions for the old timers

Sent to the Stands wrote:

coachr wrote:

Sent to the Stands wrote:Consider a Div III school like Trinity University in San Antonio. Great academics, a national reputation and a Women's soccer program that was #3 in the Nation and finished the season with a 22-1 record after a double OT loss in the third round of the NCAA tourney.

http://trinitytigers.com/sports/wsoc/index

Trinity... If you couldn't get into any other law school.

They don't have a law school ... You may be thinking of St. Mary's in San Antonio.

coachr wrote:

Sent to the Stands wrote:

coachr wrote:

Sent to the Stands wrote:Consider a Div III school like Trinity University in San Antonio. Great academics, a national reputation and a Women's soccer program that was #3 in the Nation and finished the season with a 22-1 record after a double OT loss in the third round of the NCAA tourney.

http://trinitytigers.com/sports/wsoc/index

Trinity... If you couldn't get into any other law school.

They don't have a law school ... You may be thinking of St. Mary's in San Antonio.

Good point.
Trinity, if Austin College and Southwestern laughed at you.

Gunners wrote:

Bicycle Guru-NOT wrote:

Gunners wrote:

Bicycle Guru-NOT wrote:

twotouch wrote:As someone who went to multiple schools and kept going long enough to be a university professor, I can say with some certainty that where you go to school does matter.

If your daughter hopes to attend med school or law school or get a graduate business degree, her undergraduate institution would be considered during the admission process. If her grades were good but she didn't go to a school with a strong academic reputation, her grades wouldn't be weighted as heavily. On the other hand, if her grades were only so so but she went to a very strong academic school (e.g., Ivy league, Stanford, Cal, UCLA, Northwestern, Duke, Vanderbilt among D1 schools), her grades would be looked at more positively during the admission process. In other words, the "quality" of her grades would depend on where they were earned. Also, it would mean something in the graduate school admissions process if your daughter was able to get into Harvard (or another top school) as an undergrad. Standardized tests are the great equalizer, though. If your daughter were to score high enough on her MCAT exams, she would get into a top med school regardless of her undergraduate institution.

What if your daughter doesn't want to go to a professional school after college? It's certainly possible for a graduate of any other university to be more successful than a Harvard grad. But people expect Harvard grads to be more successful. Harvard grads are more likely to get sought-after jobs in consulting or investment banking out of college, more likely to be "fast tracked" and more likely to be considered for interesting and challenging jobs before of their peers. Now some of those Harvard grads won't perform very well but they generally have better opportunities to succeed, at least early in their careers (maybe not Jeremy Lin).

Finally, I've thought a great deal about whether and where my daughter will play college soccer. I can only hope that playing would enhance her college experience. I would hate for her to be sitting on the bench for two or three years in a very strong soccer program before getting to play when she could have plenty of playing time and enjoy soccer more in a less competitive soccer program. I'm more concerned that she be challenged and "fit in" academically. Will she be able to focus on both school and soccer? Yeah, but it won't be easy...and school comes first.

My $.02.

There is a small, private, NAIA school in Arkansas (Lyon College) that has an excellent reputation for undergrad medical students. Here is the kicker, they have an agreement with one of the top medical grad schools (sorry can't which one) that if student graduates from Lyon with any type of pre med degree (biology, chemistry, etc...) they get into the med school without having to take the MCAT. To best of my knowlegde this is the only such program in the country. Tough school, students are definitely challenged and they do have both men's and women's soccer. Might be worth checking into.

Mind substantiating the "not having to take the MCAT" part?

Here's the link for Lyon www.lyon.edu

I checked their site (although not thoroughly) and also google, but the only places that I found that offer anything like what you allude to are in Canada (ie could find no US Med schools that allow admittance without taking the MCAT).

Gunners wrote:

Bicycle Guru-NOT wrote:

Gunners wrote:

Bicycle Guru-NOT wrote:

twotouch wrote:As someone who went to multiple schools and kept going long enough to be a university professor, I can say with some certainty that where you go to school does matter.

If your daughter hopes to attend med school or law school or get a graduate business degree, her undergraduate institution would be considered during the admission process. If her grades were good but she didn't go to a school with a strong academic reputation, her grades wouldn't be weighted as heavily. On the other hand, if her grades were only so so but she went to a very strong academic school (e.g., Ivy league, Stanford, Cal, UCLA, Northwestern, Duke, Vanderbilt among D1 schools), her grades would be looked at more positively during the admission process. In other words, the "quality" of her grades would depend on where they were earned. Also, it would mean something in the graduate school admissions process if your daughter was able to get into Harvard (or another top school) as an undergrad. Standardized tests are the great equalizer, though. If your daughter were to score high enough on her MCAT exams, she would get into a top med school regardless of her undergraduate institution.

What if your daughter doesn't want to go to a professional school after college? It's certainly possible for a graduate of any other university to be more successful than a Harvard grad. But people expect Harvard grads to be more successful. Harvard grads are more likely to get sought-after jobs in consulting or investment banking out of college, more likely to be "fast tracked" and more likely to be considered for interesting and challenging jobs before of their peers. Now some of those Harvard grads won't perform very well but they generally have better opportunities to succeed, at least early in their careers (maybe not Jeremy Lin).

Finally, I've thought a great deal about whether and where my daughter will play college soccer. I can only hope that playing would enhance her college experience. I would hate for her to be sitting on the bench for two or three years in a very strong soccer program before getting to play when she could have plenty of playing time and enjoy soccer more in a less competitive soccer program. I'm more concerned that she be challenged and "fit in" academically. Will she be able to focus on both school and soccer? Yeah, but it won't be easy...and school comes first.

My $.02.

There is a small, private, NAIA school in Arkansas (Lyon College) that has an excellent reputation for undergrad medical students. Here is the kicker, they have an agreement with one of the top medical grad schools (sorry can't which one) that if student graduates from Lyon with any type of pre med degree (biology, chemistry, etc...) they get into the med school without having to take the MCAT. To best of my knowlegde this is the only such program in the country. Tough school, students are definitely challenged and they do have both men's and women's soccer. Might be worth checking into.

Mind substantiating the "not having to take the MCAT" part?

Here's the link for Lyon www.lyon.edu

I checked their site (although not thoroughly) and also google, but the only places that I found that offer anything like what you allude to are in Canada (ie could find no US Med schools that allow admittance without taking the MCAT).

tacklenow wrote:

Gunners wrote:

Bicycle Guru-NOT wrote:

Gunners wrote:

Bicycle Guru-NOT wrote:

twotouch wrote:As someone who went to multiple schools and kept going long enough to be a university professor, I can say with some certainty that where you go to school does matter.

If your daughter hopes to attend med school or law school or get a graduate business degree, her undergraduate institution would be considered during the admission process. If her grades were good but she didn't go to a school with a strong academic reputation, her grades wouldn't be weighted as heavily. On the other hand, if her grades were only so so but she went to a very strong academic school (e.g., Ivy league, Stanford, Cal, UCLA, Northwestern, Duke, Vanderbilt among D1 schools), her grades would be looked at more positively during the admission process. In other words, the "quality" of her grades would depend on where they were earned. Also, it would mean something in the graduate school admissions process if your daughter was able to get into Harvard (or another top school) as an undergrad. Standardized tests are the great equalizer, though. If your daughter were to score high enough on her MCAT exams, she would get into a top med school regardless of her undergraduate institution.

What if your daughter doesn't want to go to a professional school after college? It's certainly possible for a graduate of any other university to be more successful than a Harvard grad. But people expect Harvard grads to be more successful. Harvard grads are more likely to get sought-after jobs in consulting or investment banking out of college, more likely to be "fast tracked" and more likely to be considered for interesting and challenging jobs before of their peers. Now some of those Harvard grads won't perform very well but they generally have better opportunities to succeed, at least early in their careers (maybe not Jeremy Lin).

Finally, I've thought a great deal about whether and where my daughter will play college soccer. I can only hope that playing would enhance her college experience. I would hate for her to be sitting on the bench for two or three years in a very strong soccer program before getting to play when she could have plenty of playing time and enjoy soccer more in a less competitive soccer program. I'm more concerned that she be challenged and "fit in" academically. Will she be able to focus on both school and soccer? Yeah, but it won't be easy...and school comes first.

My $.02.

There is a small, private, NAIA school in Arkansas (Lyon College) that has an excellent reputation for undergrad medical students. Here is the kicker, they have an agreement with one of the top medical grad schools (sorry can't which one) that if student graduates from Lyon with any type of pre med degree (biology, chemistry, etc...) they get into the med school without having to take the MCAT. To best of my knowlegde this is the only such program in the country. Tough school, students are definitely challenged and they do have both men's and women's soccer. Might be worth checking into.

Mind substantiating the "not having to take the MCAT" part?

Here's the link for Lyon www.lyon.edu

I checked their site (although not thoroughly) and also google, but the only places that I found that offer anything like what you allude to are in Canada (ie could find no US Med schools that allow admittance without taking the MCAT).

Having read some of this a couple of weeks ago, I'd thought I'd add what I just learned. My daughter visited Austin College this week. She is interested in pre-med and we have heard great things about Austin College. During our visit we learned that Austin College and Texas Tech have an agreement. If a students enters with an ACT score of 29 or above and maintains a GPA of 3.6 then they will automatically be accepted to Texas Tech medical school withOUT taking the MCAT. And no it is not advertised on the website anywhere that I could find. In fact I went up and talked to the women who gave the introductory presentation to those visiting because I wanted to make sure I heard her correctly.


I was told that this is the only such agreement that exists in Texas. But it would not surprise me to learn that there are other such agreements between other schools else where in the US.

Call me a liar too if you like won't hurt my feelings cause I'll know who the fool is.

dd9903 wrote:

tacklenow wrote:

Gunners wrote:

Bicycle Guru-NOT wrote:

Gunners wrote:

Bicycle Guru-NOT wrote:

twotouch wrote:As someone who went to multiple schools and kept going long enough to be a university professor, I can say with some certainty that where you go to school does matter.

If your daughter hopes to attend med school or law school or get a graduate business degree, her undergraduate institution would be considered during the admission process. If her grades were good but she didn't go to a school with a strong academic reputation, her grades wouldn't be weighted as heavily. On the other hand, if her grades were only so so but she went to a very strong academic school (e.g., Ivy league, Stanford, Cal, UCLA, Northwestern, Duke, Vanderbilt among D1 schools), her grades would be looked at more positively during the admission process. In other words, the "quality" of her grades would depend on where they were earned. Also, it would mean something in the graduate school admissions process if your daughter was able to get into Harvard (or another top school) as an undergrad. Standardized tests are the great equalizer, though. If your daughter were to score high enough on her MCAT exams, she would get into a top med school regardless of her undergraduate institution.

What if your daughter doesn't want to go to a professional school after college? It's certainly possible for a graduate of any other university to be more successful than a Harvard grad. But people expect Harvard grads to be more successful. Harvard grads are more likely to get sought-after jobs in consulting or investment banking out of college, more likely to be "fast tracked" and more likely to be considered for interesting and challenging jobs before of their peers. Now some of those Harvard grads won't perform very well but they generally have better opportunities to succeed, at least early in their careers (maybe not Jeremy Lin).

Finally, I've thought a great deal about whether and where my daughter will play college soccer. I can only hope that playing would enhance her college experience. I would hate for her to be sitting on the bench for two or three years in a very strong soccer program before getting to play when she could have plenty of playing time and enjoy soccer more in a less competitive soccer program. I'm more concerned that she be challenged and "fit in" academically. Will she be able to focus on both school and soccer? Yeah, but it won't be easy...and school comes first.

My $.02.

There is a small, private, NAIA school in Arkansas (Lyon College) that has an excellent reputation for undergrad medical students. Here is the kicker, they have an agreement with one of the top medical grad schools (sorry can't which one) that if student graduates from Lyon with any type of pre med degree (biology, chemistry, etc...) they get into the med school without having to take the MCAT. To best of my knowlegde this is the only such program in the country. Tough school, students are definitely challenged and they do have both men's and women's soccer. Might be worth checking into.

Mind substantiating the "not having to take the MCAT" part?

Here's the link for Lyon www.lyon.edu

I checked their site (although not thoroughly) and also google, but the only places that I found that offer anything like what you allude to are in Canada (ie could find no US Med schools that allow admittance without taking the MCAT).

Having read some of this a couple of weeks ago, I'd thought I'd add what I just learned. My daughter visited Austin College this week. She is interested in pre-med and we have heard great things about Austin College. During our visit we learned that Austin College and Texas Tech have an agreement. If a students enters with an ACT score of 29 or above and maintains a GPA of 3.6 then they will automatically be accepted to Texas Tech medical school withOUT taking the MCAT. And no it is not advertised on the website anywhere that I could find. In fact I went up and talked to the women who gave the introductory presentation to those visiting because I wanted to make sure I heard her correctly.


I was told that this is the only such agreement that exists in Texas. But it would not surprise me to learn that there are other such agreements between other schools else where in the US.

Call me a liar too if you like won't hurt my feelings cause I'll know who the fool is.

Just to add to support to this, here is a link and section that does explain this process from their website.

http://www.austincollege.edu/academics/pre-professional-programs/health-sciences/

Austin College and Texas Tech School of Medicine (TTSOM) have established an early decision/acceptance program. Outstanding Texas residents who choose to attend Austin College and TTSOM may be interested in this special program. Students who enter Austin College with an SAT of 1300 (critical reading + math) or ACT of 29 and who then maintain a cumulative grade point average of 3.7 and a science grade point average of 3.6 during the first one and one-half years at the college are eligible for consideration. The student will then be interviewed at the medical school in the fall of the sophomore year. If accepted into TTSOM, the student will not need to take the MCAT, but must maintain a cumulative grade point average of 3.7 and science grade point average of 3.6 through the junior year in addition to completing the Bachelor of Arts degree from Austin College. All courses must be completed at Austin College. The student will enter TTSOM in the fall, following graduation from Austin College

Bicycle Guru-NOT wrote:

dd9903 wrote:

tacklenow wrote:

Gunners wrote:

Bicycle Guru-NOT wrote:

Gunners wrote:

Bicycle Guru-NOT wrote:

twotouch wrote:As someone who went to multiple schools and kept going long enough to be a university professor, I can say with some certainty that where you go to school does matter.

If your daughter hopes to attend med school or law school or get a graduate business degree, her undergraduate institution would be considered during the admission process. If her grades were good but she didn't go to a school with a strong academic reputation, her grades wouldn't be weighted as heavily. On the other hand, if her grades were only so so but she went to a very strong academic school (e.g., Ivy league, Stanford, Cal, UCLA, Northwestern, Duke, Vanderbilt among D1 schools), her grades would be looked at more positively during the admission process. In other words, the "quality" of her grades would depend on where they were earned. Also, it would mean something in the graduate school admissions process if your daughter was able to get into Harvard (or another top school) as an undergrad. Standardized tests are the great equalizer, though. If your daughter were to score high enough on her MCAT exams, she would get into a top med school regardless of her undergraduate institution.

What if your daughter doesn't want to go to a professional school after college? It's certainly possible for a graduate of any other university to be more successful than a Harvard grad. But people expect Harvard grads to be more successful. Harvard grads are more likely to get sought-after jobs in consulting or investment banking out of college, more likely to be "fast tracked" and more likely to be considered for interesting and challenging jobs before of their peers. Now some of those Harvard grads won't perform very well but they generally have better opportunities to succeed, at least early in their careers (maybe not Jeremy Lin).

Finally, I've thought a great deal about whether and where my daughter will play college soccer. I can only hope that playing would enhance her college experience. I would hate for her to be sitting on the bench for two or three years in a very strong soccer program before getting to play when she could have plenty of playing time and enjoy soccer more in a less competitive soccer program. I'm more concerned that she be challenged and "fit in" academically. Will she be able to focus on both school and soccer? Yeah, but it won't be easy...and school comes first.

My $.02.

There is a small, private, NAIA school in Arkansas (Lyon College) that has an excellent reputation for undergrad medical students. Here is the kicker, they have an agreement with one of the top medical grad schools (sorry can't which one) that if student graduates from Lyon with any type of pre med degree (biology, chemistry, etc...) they get into the med school without having to take the MCAT. To best of my knowlegde this is the only such program in the country. Tough school, students are definitely challenged and they do have both men's and women's soccer. Might be worth checking into.

Mind substantiating the "not having to take the MCAT" part?

Here's the link for Lyon www.lyon.edu

I checked their site (although not thoroughly) and also google, but the only places that I found that offer anything like what you allude to are in Canada (ie could find no US Med schools that allow admittance without taking the MCAT).

Having read some of this a couple of weeks ago, I'd thought I'd add what I just learned. My daughter visited Austin College this week. She is interested in pre-med and we have heard great things about Austin College. During our visit we learned that Austin College and Texas Tech have an agreement. If a students enters with an ACT score of 29 or above and maintains a GPA of 3.6 then they will automatically be accepted to Texas Tech medical school withOUT taking the MCAT. And no it is not advertised on the website anywhere that I could find. In fact I went up and talked to the women who gave the introductory presentation to those visiting because I wanted to make sure I heard her correctly.


I was told that this is the only such agreement that exists in Texas. But it would not surprise me to learn that there are other such agreements between other schools else where in the US.

Call me a liar too if you like won't hurt my feelings cause I'll know who the fool is.

Just to add to support to this, here is a link and section that does explain this process from their website.

http://www.austincollege.edu/academics/pre-professional-programs/health-sciences/

Austin College and Texas Tech School of Medicine (TTSOM) have established an early decision/acceptance program. Outstanding Texas residents who choose to attend Austin College and TTSOM may be interested in this special program. Students who enter Austin College with an SAT of 1300 (critical reading + math) or ACT of 29 and who then maintain a cumulative grade point average of 3.7 and a science grade point average of 3.6 during the first one and one-half years at the college are eligible for consideration. The student will then be interviewed at the medical school in the fall of the sophomore year. If accepted into TTSOM, the student will not need to take the MCAT, but must maintain a cumulative grade point average of 3.7 and science grade point average of 3.6 through the junior year in addition to completing the Bachelor of Arts degree from Austin College. All courses must be completed at Austin College. The student will enter TTSOM in the fall, following graduation from Austin College

Thanks for the support tacklenow and dd9903. It has been my experience that a weak mind will resort to ridicule when they have nothing constructive to offer. Somewhere in this post it got lost that aggiemt was seeking advice and options. I guess when someone has the maturity of a 9 year old the "liar, liar pants on fire" jab is the best they can come up with. Besides, when they can hide behind a web post what can you do. If they call me a liar to my face they could enjoy some time off from their job cleaning portable toilets while they recover in ICU

Bicycle Guru-NOT wrote:
Thanks for the support tacklenow and dd9903. It has been my experience that a weak mind will resort to ridicule when they have nothing constructive to offer. Somewhere in this post it got lost that aggiemt was seeking advice and options. I guess when someone has the maturity of a 9 year old the "liar, liar pants on fire" jab is the best they can come up with. Besides, when they can hide behind a web post what can you do. If they call me a liar to my face they could enjoy some time off from their job cleaning portable toilets while they recover in ICU

Gunners wrote:

Bicycle Guru-NOT wrote:
Thanks for the support tacklenow and dd9903. It has been my experience that a weak mind will resort to ridicule when they have nothing constructive to offer. Somewhere in this post it got lost that aggiemt was seeking advice and options. I guess when someone has the maturity of a 9 year old the "liar, liar pants on fire" jab is the best they can come up with. Besides, when they can hide behind a web post what can you do. If they call me a liar to my face they could enjoy some time off from their job cleaning portable toilets while they recover in ICU

For the record, all I asked for was proof regarding what you had posted. I was, and am, genuinely interested in the subject. Don't think I ever called you names or anything of the sort.

By the way, I do find it ironic you imply that someone else is weak minded or childish and follow that accusation with threats of physical violence.

AlterEgo wrote:

Gunners wrote:

Bicycle Guru-NOT wrote:
Thanks for the support tacklenow and dd9903. It has been my experience that a weak mind will resort to ridicule when they have nothing constructive to offer. Somewhere in this post it got lost that aggiemt was seeking advice and options. I guess when someone has the maturity of a 9 year old the "liar, liar pants on fire" jab is the best they can come up with. Besides, when they can hide behind a web post what can you do. If they call me a liar to my face they could enjoy some time off from their job cleaning portable toilets while they recover in ICU

For the record, all I asked for was proof regarding what you had posted. I was, and am, genuinely interested in the subject. Don't think I ever called you names or anything of the sort.

By the way, I do find it ironic you imply that someone else is weak minded or childish and follow that accusation with threats of physical violence.

I was thinking the same thing.
So childish.

Gunners wrote:

Bicycle Guru-NOT wrote:
Thanks for the support tacklenow and dd9903. It has been my experience that a weak mind will resort to ridicule when they have nothing constructive to offer. Somewhere in this post it got lost that aggiemt was seeking advice and options. I guess when someone has the maturity of a 9 year old the "liar, liar pants on fire" jab is the best they can come up with. Besides, when they can hide behind a web post what can you do. If they call me a liar to my face they could enjoy some time off from their job cleaning portable toilets while they recover in ICU

For the record, all I asked for was proof regarding what you had posted. I was, and am, genuinely interested in the subject. Don't think I ever called you names or anything of the sort.

By the way, I do find it ironic you imply that someone else is weak minded or childish and follow that accusation with threats of physical violence.

tacklenow wrote:

Having read some of this a couple of weeks ago, I'd thought I'd add what I just learned. My daughter visited Austin College this week. She is interested in pre-med and we have heard great things about Austin College. During our visit we learned that Austin College and Texas Tech have an agreement. If a students enters with an ACT score of 29 or above and maintains a GPA of 3.6 then they will automatically be accepted to Texas Tech medical school withOUT taking the MCAT. And no it is not advertised on the website anywhere that I could find. In fact I went up and talked to the women who gave the introductory presentation to those visiting because I wanted to make sure I heard her correctly.


I was told that this is the only such agreement that exists in Texas. But it would not surprise me to learn that there are other such agreements between other schools else where in the US.

Bicycle Guru-NOT wrote:

Gunners wrote:

Bicycle Guru-NOT wrote:
Thanks for the support tacklenow and dd9903. It has been my experience that a weak mind will resort to ridicule when they have nothing constructive to offer. Somewhere in this post it got lost that aggiemt was seeking advice and options. I guess when someone has the maturity of a 9 year old the "liar, liar pants on fire" jab is the best they can come up with. Besides, when they can hide behind a web post what can you do. If they call me a liar to my face they could enjoy some time off from their job cleaning portable toilets while they recover in ICU

For the record, all I asked for was proof regarding what you had posted. I was, and am, genuinely interested in the subject. Don't think I ever called you names or anything of the sort.

By the way, I do find it ironic you imply that someone else is weak minded or childish and follow that accusation with threats of physical violence.

Gunners, it was not your post that said anything about lying. You ask a valid question and actually did some research. The post being refered to was the idiot posting after yours. Although after rereading the long string above to that post is not a part and should have been. BTW, someone walks up to you on the street and calls you a liar how do you react?

AlterEgo wrote:

Bicycle Guru-NOT wrote:

Gunners wrote:

Bicycle Guru-NOT wrote:
Thanks for the support tacklenow and dd9903. It has been my experience that a weak mind will resort to ridicule when they have nothing constructive to offer. Somewhere in this post it got lost that aggiemt was seeking advice and options. I guess when someone has the maturity of a 9 year old the "liar, liar pants on fire" jab is the best they can come up with. Besides, when they can hide behind a web post what can you do. If they call me a liar to my face they could enjoy some time off from their job cleaning portable toilets while they recover in ICU

For the record, all I asked for was proof regarding what you had posted. I was, and am, genuinely interested in the subject. Don't think I ever called you names or anything of the sort.

By the way, I do find it ironic you imply that someone else is weak minded or childish and follow that accusation with threats of physical violence.

Gunners, it was not your post that said anything about lying. You ask a valid question and actually did some research. The post being refered to was the idiot posting after yours. Although after rereading the long string above to that post is not a part and should have been. BTW, someone walks up to you on the street and calls you a liar how do you react?

How would I act?
Oh, I don't know, maybe like an adult?
If you would hit someone for calling you a liar, you have anger issues.
You should see a good head doctor and keep a good lawyer on retainer.

Bicycle Guru-NOT wrote:

AlterEgo wrote:

Bicycle Guru-NOT wrote:

Gunners wrote:

Bicycle Guru-NOT wrote:
Thanks for the support tacklenow and dd9903. It has been my experience that a weak mind will resort to ridicule when they have nothing constructive to offer. Somewhere in this post it got lost that aggiemt was seeking advice and options. I guess when someone has the maturity of a 9 year old the "liar, liar pants on fire" jab is the best they can come up with. Besides, when they can hide behind a web post what can you do. If they call me a liar to my face they could enjoy some time off from their job cleaning portable toilets while they recover in ICU

For the record, all I asked for was proof regarding what you had posted. I was, and am, genuinely interested in the subject. Don't think I ever called you names or anything of the sort.

By the way, I do find it ironic you imply that someone else is weak minded or childish and follow that accusation with threats of physical violence.

Gunners, it was not your post that said anything about lying. You ask a valid question and actually did some research. The post being refered to was the idiot posting after yours. Although after rereading the long string above to that post is not a part and should have been. BTW, someone walks up to you on the street and calls you a liar how do you react?

How would I act?
Oh, I don't know, maybe like an adult?
If you would hit someone for calling you a liar, you have anger issues.
You should see a good head doctor and keep a good lawyer on retainer.

It is good to know we have someone monitoring this site who is a definitive authority on anger issues and how adults are supposed to act. Yes, I do take attacks on my honesty and integrity personally. Why are you jumping in the middle of this anyway? If you are going to join at the end at least go back and read the entire string. The post after Gunners that brought up lying was not yours but the one from April 13. However after reading your response maybe we can use the same shrink to resolve our anger issues. Just so I have the rules straight: a) It is OK on this website to accuse someone of lying. b) It is apparantly not Ok to respond to such accusations in a way that offends the delicate sensibilities of AlterEgo.

OK, got it, will try to follow the rules in the future

AlterEgo wrote:

Bicycle Guru-NOT wrote:

AlterEgo wrote:

Bicycle Guru-NOT wrote:

Gunners wrote:

Bicycle Guru-NOT wrote:
Thanks for the support tacklenow and dd9903. It has been my experience that a weak mind will resort to ridicule when they have nothing constructive to offer. Somewhere in this post it got lost that aggiemt was seeking advice and options. I guess when someone has the maturity of a 9 year old the "liar, liar pants on fire" jab is the best they can come up with. Besides, when they can hide behind a web post what can you do. If they call me a liar to my face they could enjoy some time off from their job cleaning portable toilets while they recover in ICU

For the record, all I asked for was proof regarding what you had posted. I was, and am, genuinely interested in the subject. Don't think I ever called you names or anything of the sort.

By the way, I do find it ironic you imply that someone else is weak minded or childish and follow that accusation with threats of physical violence.

Gunners, it was not your post that said anything about lying. You ask a valid question and actually did some research. The post being refered to was the idiot posting after yours. Although after rereading the long string above to that post is not a part and should have been. BTW, someone walks up to you on the street and calls you a liar how do you react?

How would I act?
Oh, I don't know, maybe like an adult?
If you would hit someone for calling you a liar, you have anger issues.
You should see a good head doctor and keep a good lawyer on retainer.

It is good to know we have someone monitoring this site who is a definitive authority on anger issues and how adults are supposed to act. Yes, I do take attacks on my honesty and integrity personally. Why are you jumping in the middle of this anyway? If you are going to join at the end at least go back and read the entire string. The post after Gunners that brought up lying was not yours but the one from April 13. However after reading your response maybe we can use the same shrink to resolve our anger issues. Just so I have the rules straight: a) It is OK on this website to accuse someone of lying. b) It is apparantly not Ok to respond to such accusations in a way that offends the delicate sensibilities of AlterEgo.

OK, got it, will try to follow the rules in the future

I learned not to hit before the 1st grade.
Good to know your apparent education level.
Lady, you are a piece of work. You fire off angry responses and hurl insults at someone you don't even know on a topic that didn't involve you until you jumped in the middle.
Don't look now but YOUR maturity is showing