Too many teams???

beast wrote:

34blast wrote:I'm surprised clubs have never approached teams hierarchically. For example, at u14 put all the best players in Pre-Academy, put the next batch in D1, put the next batch in D2, all the way down. In reality, most do it team by team or each coach on his own. The D1's have more good players, but not all of them, etc. I think this dilutes the talent pool.

So select would really be select, if the coach from the top team could pick his players from all the teams. Baseball model would work in my opinion to keep select really "select". Majors, AAA, AAA, and several A level teams. Of course, players don't pay to play. The clubs pay from the bottom up and release them when they feel they won't ever make the big leagues.

That is exactly the way a good portion of the rest of the country does select soccer. I often do wish is was more like this here.

sheep

Seven wrote:

beast wrote:

34blast wrote:I'm surprised clubs have never approached teams hierarchically. For example, at u14 put all the best players in Pre-Academy, put the next batch in D1, put the next batch in D2, all the way down. In reality, most do it team by team or each coach on his own. The D1's have more good players, but not all of them, etc. I think this dilutes the talent pool.

So select would really be select, if the coach from the top team could pick his players from all the teams. Baseball model would work in my opinion to keep select really "select". Majors, AAA, AAA, and several A level teams. Of course, players don't pay to play. The clubs pay from the bottom up and release them when they feel they won't ever make the big leagues.

That is exactly the way a good portion of the rest of the country does select soccer. I often do wish is was more like this here.

sheep

Maybe, but it definitely makes "select" soccer "select". I don't see North Texas clubs changing anytime soon though.

beast wrote:

Seven wrote:

beast wrote:

34blast wrote:I'm surprised clubs have never approached teams hierarchically. For example, at u14 put all the best players in Pre-Academy, put the next batch in D1, put the next batch in D2, all the way down. In reality, most do it team by team or each coach on his own. The D1's have more good players, but not all of them, etc. I think this dilutes the talent pool.

So select would really be select, if the coach from the top team could pick his players from all the teams. Baseball model would work in my opinion to keep select really "select". Majors, AAA, AAA, and several A level teams. Of course, players don't pay to play. The clubs pay from the bottom up and release them when they feel they won't ever make the big leagues.

That is exactly the way a good portion of the rest of the country does select soccer. I often do wish is was more like this here.

sheep

Maybe, but it definitely makes "select" soccer "select". I don't see North Texas clubs changing anytime soon though.

ok "sheep" was a bit harsh, but i just dont understand the line of thinking that has you taking your DD to a club then letting them decide what team she plays for and who coaches her. To each his own.

Seven wrote:
ok "sheep" was a bit harsh, but i just dont understand the line of thinking that has you taking your DD to a club then letting them decide what team she plays for and who coaches her. To each his own.

Read the select contract. Clubs have the right to decide this already.

Seven wrote:

beast wrote:

Seven wrote:

beast wrote:

34blast wrote:I'm surprised clubs have never approached teams hierarchically. For example, at u14 put all the best players in Pre-Academy, put the next batch in D1, put the next batch in D2, all the way down. In reality, most do it team by team or each coach on his own. The D1's have more good players, but not all of them, etc. I think this dilutes the talent pool.

So select would really be select, if the coach from the top team could pick his players from all the teams. Baseball model would work in my opinion to keep select really "select". Majors, AAA, AAA, and several A level teams. Of course, players don't pay to play. The clubs pay from the bottom up and release them when they feel they won't ever make the big leagues.

That is exactly the way a good portion of the rest of the country does select soccer. I often do wish is was more like this here.

sheep

Maybe, but it definitely makes "select" soccer "select". I don't see North Texas clubs changing anytime soon though.

ok "sheep" was a bit harsh, but i just dont understand the line of thinking that has you taking your DD to a club then letting them decide what team she plays for and who coaches her. To each his own.

I think that is just the North Texas mindset. Friends in other parts of the country don't think twice about it. Plus keep in mind that your club can change your DD's coach at any time. You in essence aren't signing with a coach, but the club.

4-4-2-Diamond wrote:

Seven wrote:
ok "sheep" was a bit harsh, but i just dont understand the line of thinking that has you taking your DD to a club then letting them decide what team she plays for and who coaches her. To each his own.

Read the select contract. Clubs have the right to decide this already.

yes but it seldom happens. What was being discussed earlier was a system based on this. That would be a totally different animal.

beast wrote:

34blast wrote:I'm surprised clubs have never approached teams hierarchically. For example, at u14 put all the best players in Pre-Academy, put the next batch in D1, put the next batch in D2, all the way down. In reality, most do it team by team or each coach on his own. The D1's have more good players, but not all of them, etc. I think this dilutes the talent pool.

So select would really be select, if the coach from the top team could pick his players from all the teams. Baseball model would work in my opinion to keep select really "select". Majors, AAA, AAA, and several A level teams. Of course, players don't pay to play. The clubs pay from the bottom up and release them when they feel they won't ever make the big leagues.

That is exactly the way a good portion of the rest of the country does select soccer. I often do wish is was more like this here.

Just curious, what areas do you know that do this. It sounds logical, but non of the friends we have in other parts of the country have ever said anything about this.

Is it primarily East Coast, West Coast, or what?

I guess all I am saying is I prefer a system where I can choose the coach my DD plays for. I am aware that the club can make a change in coaching any time they feel like it. However it is in the best interest of the clubs and the team to keep the coach in place unless there are "reasons" to replace him or her.

Seven wrote:

4-4-2-Diamond wrote:

Seven wrote:
ok "sheep" was a bit harsh, but i just dont understand the line of thinking that has you taking your DD to a club then letting them decide what team she plays for and who coaches her. To each his own.

Read the select contract. Clubs have the right to decide this already.

yes but it seldom happens. What was being discussed earlier was a system based on this. That would be a totally different animal.

I've heard of that animal... it's called "High School"... be ... be VERY

bwgophers wrote:

Seven wrote:

4-4-2-Diamond wrote:

Seven wrote:
ok "sheep" was a bit harsh, but i just dont understand the line of thinking that has you taking your DD to a club then letting them decide what team she plays for and who coaches her. To each his own.

Read the select contract. Clubs have the right to decide this already.

yes but it seldom happens. What was being discussed earlier was a system based on this. That would be a totally different animal.

I've heard of that animal... it's called "High School"... be ... be VERY

ballhead wrote:

beast wrote:

34blast wrote:I'm surprised clubs have never approached teams hierarchically. For example, at u14 put all the best players in Pre-Academy, put the next batch in D1, put the next batch in D2, all the way down. In reality, most do it team by team or each coach on his own. The D1's have more good players, but not all of them, etc. I think this dilutes the talent pool.

So select would really be select, if the coach from the top team could pick his players from all the teams. Baseball model would work in my opinion to keep select really "select". Majors, AAA, AAA, and several A level teams. Of course, players don't pay to play. The clubs pay from the bottom up and release them when they feel they won't ever make the big leagues.

That is exactly the way a good portion of the rest of the country does select soccer. I often do wish is was more like this here.

Just curious, what areas do you know that do this. It sounds logical, but non of the friends we have in other parts of the country have ever said anything about this.

Is it primarily East Coast, West Coast, or what?

Specifically Colorado, Ohio and Illinois. Plus I have heard of this in a South Texas club.

Some very good points on this subject....however ask your kids...its about the "ride" for them...only a few of us (I have 3 DD's playing club soccer) that have kids playing select will get the opportunity to play even college soccer.....let them have fun doing it & learn to enjoy the ride yourself...if its not about the ride for you & your kid then I would say your in for a long hard ride.
On another point our education system is not broke because of club soccer...I know many teachers who say their best students are club players...this because they have demanding schedules & are forced to be disciplined about school work & soccer....however ultimately parents are responsible for their kids grades or lack of...its starts at home...dont blame a teacher for your kids bad grades.

34blast wrote:I'm surprised clubs have never approached teams hierarchically. For example, at u14 put all the best players in Pre-Academy, put the next batch in D1, put the next batch in D2, all the way down. In reality, most do it team by team or each coach on his own. The D1's have more good players, but not all of them, etc. I think this dilutes the talent pool.

So select would really be select, if the coach from the top team could pick his players from all the teams. Baseball model would work in my opinion to keep select really "select". Majors, AAA, AAA, and several A level teams. Of course, players don't pay to play. The clubs pay from the bottom up and release them when they feel they won't ever make the big leagues.

I'm guessing you're not an economics major.