LHGCL Qualifying Tournament 2012

txtransplant wrote:There are actually 31 as of right now.

It seems there is a problem with the registration system and if you look in the 01 division there are six 02 squads listed. Just as there are 01 teams in the 00 division, 00 teams in the 99 and so on.

golgolgol wrote:

txtransplant wrote:There are actually 31 as of right now.

It seems there is a problem with the registration system and if you look in the 01 division there are six 02 squads listed. Just as there are 01 teams in the 00 division, 00 teams in the 99 and so on.

ahhh, ok. So if there ends up with only 31 teams, sucks to be that 31st team!!!!

Whoseurdaddy wrote:We are now at 40 teams.

Sent to the Stands wrote:Dallas Kicks East listed in U12 is an 02 team as well.

bwgophers wrote:

Sent to the Stands wrote:Dallas Kicks East listed in U12 is an 02 team as well.

No, that's the '01 Kicks East team that played and finished 7th in LH D3 last year. They have to try and requalify. Click on the team and look at their team history.

Haven't seen hide nor hair of the following teams. Are they still together???

Tx. Spirit North
Polaris (Wombough - Not the team that became FCD South)
Fever White
LP Rush
Sting West

bwgophers wrote:

golgolgol wrote:

txtransplant wrote:There are actually 31 as of right now.

It seems there is a problem with the registration system and if you look in the 01 division there are six 02 squads listed. Just as there are 01 teams in the 00 division, 00 teams in the 99 and so on.

ahhh, ok. So if there ends up with only 31 teams, sucks to be that 31st team!!!!

I'm guessing there will be plenty of last minute entries. I currently count 9 teams signed up for King TUT that aren't signed up for LH QT yet - including FC Dallas Premier and Andro Red. Usually, if you play King TUT or Puma Cup, you play QT as well.

anothercrazysoccerdad wrote:

bwgophers wrote:

golgolgol wrote:

txtransplant wrote:There are actually 31 as of right now.

It seems there is a problem with the registration system and if you look in the 01 division there are six 02 squads listed. Just as there are 01 teams in the 00 division, 00 teams in the 99 and so on.

ahhh, ok. So if there ends up with only 31 teams, sucks to be that 31st team!!!!

I'm guessing there will be plenty of last minute entries. I currently count 9 teams signed up for King TUT that aren't signed up for LH QT yet - including FC Dallas Premier and Andro Red. Usually, if you play King TUT or Puma Cup, you play QT as well.

Gophers, can you impart your wisdom on all things QT 101, seeding, format, etc, for the newbie 02's around here. All pools of 4 teams, starting with the one seed, and serpentine down and back to fill the pools?

Do they try to separate teams from the same club from the same pool?

bwgophers wrote:

anothercrazysoccerdad wrote:

bwgophers wrote:

golgolgol wrote:

txtransplant wrote:There are actually 31 as of right now.

It seems there is a problem with the registration system and if you look in the 01 division there are six 02 squads listed. Just as there are 01 teams in the 00 division, 00 teams in the 99 and so on.

ahhh, ok. So if there ends up with only 31 teams, sucks to be that 31st team!!!!

I'm guessing there will be plenty of last minute entries. I currently count 9 teams signed up for King TUT that aren't signed up for LH QT yet - including FC Dallas Premier and Andro Red. Usually, if you play King TUT or Puma Cup, you play QT as well.

Gophers, can you impart your wisdom on all things QT 101, seeding, format, etc, for the newbie 02's around here. All pools of 4 teams, starting with the one seed, and serpentine down and back to fill the pools?

Do they try to separate teams from the same club from the same pool?

Sure... give me a few...

bwgophers wrote:O.K. I’ll start with the easy example to explain the general system and then will explain variances afterwards…

Let’s say they end up with 44 teams signed up…

Week 1 will be 11 4-Team pools. LH Seeding committee will seed the teams #1-#44 and the brackets will be set up using standard serpentine rules:



Typically, they will adjust the seeds in order to avoid same club matchups in the 1st week.

Week 1, each team plays against the other 3 teams in their pool. Standard 10 point format is used. 6 pts. for a W, 3 for a Draw, 1 pt/goal scored up to a max of 3 per game, 1 pt. for a shutout. The 11 pool winners from week 1 qualify for the 20 team D1 Supergroup and are finished.

Of the remaining 33 teams, the 5 4th place teams that score the fewest points in week 1 will be eliminated from the QT.

The remaining 28 teams will be re-grouped into 7 4-team brackets for week 2. The week 2 brackets will be based on the RESULTS from week 1 and will be seeded as follows.



They may adjust some of the 4th place teams to avoid week 1 re-matches and same club matches. I’m not sure if they will adjust any of the 2nd/3rd place week 1 teams to avoid same club matches.

Clean the slate (i.e. week #1 point totals do NOT carry over to week 2). Play week #2 games, the 7 pool winners + the 2 2nd place teams with highest point totals get berths into the 20 team D1 Supergroup. The remaining 5 2nd place teams + 5 3rd place teams with the highest point totals are given berths into D3. The 2 3rd place teams with lowest point totals and the 7 4th place teams are eliminated and do not qualify for Lake Highlands.

If there are 41-44 teams signed up, things will be set up as I explained above. If there are 43 teams - Pool A will only have 3 teams, if 42 teams - Pools A & B will only have 3 teams, if 41 teams – Pools A,B, & C will only have 3 teams. In the 3 team pools, the teams will only play 2 games in the 1st weekend. Pool winner still automatically qualifies for D1. 2nd and 3rd place teams automatically qualify for week 2, even if one or more of the 3rd place teams has 0 points in week 1. Week 2 will be the same as described above.

If there are 45-48 teams, there will be 12 pools in week #1. 12 week 1 pool winners qualify for D1 supergroup. 4th place teams with X lowest point totals will be eliminated. X is the number of teams that need to be eliminated to reduce Week 2 down to 28 teams. I believe that they reduce the week 2 teams down to 28 and not 32 in order to avoid rematches from week 1 (12 week 1 pools reducing to 8 week 2 pools would result in several potential rematches). Week 2 will be seeded using the same method I described above, just using the results from 12 pools instead of 11 (i.e. Pool L 2nd place will be top seed in Pool T - serpentine from there). 7 Week #2 pool winners + 2nd place team with highest point total earn D1 berths. Remaining 6 2nd place teams + 4 3rd place teams with highest point totals earn D3 berths. Remaining 10 teams are eliminated.

Not sure exactly how they would handle 49-52 teams, but with only 41 signed up so far, I don’t think they are going to get that high.

anothercrazysoccerdad wrote:

bwgophers wrote:O.K. I’ll start with the easy example to explain the general system and then will explain variances afterwards…

Let’s say they end up with 44 teams signed up…

Week 1 will be 11 4-Team pools. LH Seeding committee will seed the teams #1-#44 and the brackets will be set up using standard serpentine rules:



Typically, they will adjust the seeds in order to avoid same club matchups in the 1st week.

Week 1, each team plays against the other 3 teams in their pool. Standard 10 point format is used. 6 pts. for a W, 3 for a Draw, 1 pt/goal scored up to a max of 3 per game, 1 pt. for a shutout. The 11 pool winners from week 1 qualify for the 20 team D1 Supergroup and are finished.

Of the remaining 33 teams, the 5 4th place teams that score the fewest points in week 1 will be eliminated from the QT.

The remaining 28 teams will be re-grouped into 7 4-team brackets for week 2. The week 2 brackets will be based on the RESULTS from week 1 and will be seeded as follows.



They may adjust some of the 4th place teams to avoid week 1 re-matches and same club matches. I’m not sure if they will adjust any of the 2nd/3rd place week 1 teams to avoid same club matches.

Clean the slate (i.e. week #1 point totals do NOT carry over to week 2). Play week #2 games, the 7 pool winners + the 2 2nd place teams with highest point totals get berths into the 20 team D1 Supergroup. The remaining 5 2nd place teams + 5 3rd place teams with the highest point totals are given berths into D3. The 2 3rd place teams with lowest point totals and the 7 4th place teams are eliminated and do not qualify for Lake Highlands.

If there are 41-44 teams signed up, things will be set up as I explained above. If there are 43 teams - Pool A will only have 3 teams, if 42 teams - Pools A & B will only have 3 teams, if 41 teams – Pools A,B, & C will only have 3 teams. In the 3 team pools, the teams will only play 2 games in the 1st weekend. Pool winner still automatically qualifies for D1. 2nd and 3rd place teams automatically qualify for week 2, even if one or more of the 3rd place teams has 0 points in week 1. Week 2 will be the same as described above.

If there are 45-48 teams, there will be 12 pools in week #1. 12 week 1 pool winners qualify for D1 supergroup. 4th place teams with X lowest point totals will be eliminated. X is the number of teams that need to be eliminated to reduce Week 2 down to 28 teams. I believe that they reduce the week 2 teams down to 28 and not 32 in order to avoid rematches from week 1 (12 week 1 pools reducing to 8 week 2 pools would result in several potential rematches). Week 2 will be seeded using the same method I described above, just using the results from 12 pools instead of 11 (i.e. Pool L 2nd place will be top seed in Pool T - serpentine from there). 7 Week #2 pool winners + 2nd place team with highest point total earn D1 berths. Remaining 6 2nd place teams + 4 3rd place teams with highest point totals earn D3 berths. Remaining 10 teams are eliminated.

Not sure exactly how they would handle 49-52 teams, but with only 41 signed up so far, I don’t think they are going to get that high.

Greatness, thank you as usual. Ok, so now let the seeding/pool speculation begin. I am sure many will have their predictions and opinions. I would like to see Gophers' seeding/pools, as it should be pretty accuarate based on historical data from the 01's.

Will be interesting to see pre Tut/Puma speculation vs post Tut/Puma speculation and actual seeding/pool from LHGCL.

02Dad wrote:

bwgophers wrote:

Sent to the Stands wrote:Dallas Kicks East listed in U12 is an 02 team as well.

No, that's the '01 Kicks East team that played and finished 7th in LH D3 last year. They have to try and requalify. Click on the team and look at their team history.

Haven't seen hide nor hair of the following teams. Are they still together???

Tx. Spirit North
Polaris (Wombough - Not the team that became FCD South)
Fever White
LP Rush
Sting West

Texas Spirit North is gone for sure.

I noticed Fever White is not listed under the "Competetive Teams" on the Fever website. No confirmation, but that may be a sign.

Where is Solar Barnes?

aggiemt wrote:Do any of you more "seasoned" vets know when a list of teams claiming byes is available for the older ages? I know the deadline for bye fees is 7/13. Do we have to wait until the QT meeting on 7/18 or does LH let you know beforehand?

mommabear wrote:

02Dad wrote:

bwgophers wrote:

Sent to the Stands wrote:Dallas Kicks East listed in U12 is an 02 team as well.

No, that's the '01 Kicks East team that played and finished 7th in LH D3 last year. They have to try and requalify. Click on the team and look at their team history.

Haven't seen hide nor hair of the following teams. Are they still together???

Tx. Spirit North
Polaris (Wombough - Not the team that became FCD South)
Fever White
LP Rush
Sting West

Texas Spirit North is gone for sure.

I noticed Fever White is not listed under the "Competetive Teams" on the Fever website. No confirmation, but that may be a sign.

Where is Solar Barnes?

Sent to the Stands wrote:

mommabear wrote:

02Dad wrote:

bwgophers wrote:

Sent to the Stands wrote:Dallas Kicks East listed in U12 is an 02 team as well.

No, that's the '01 Kicks East team that played and finished 7th in LH D3 last year. They have to try and requalify. Click on the team and look at their team history.

Haven't seen hide nor hair of the following teams. Are they still together???

Tx. Spirit North
Polaris (Wombough - Not the team that became FCD South)
Fever White
LP Rush
Sting West

Texas Spirit North is gone for sure.

I noticed Fever White is not listed under the "Competetive Teams" on the Fever website. No confirmation, but that may be a sign.

Where is Solar Barnes?

I think Barnes is now FCD Dallas East Red. Can anyone confirm?

imasoccerfreak wrote:Wow...I think the LH people need to hire Gophers to rewrite their website. That is a WAY better explanation than what they have on their site. I actually understand now. THANKS!!