Soccer helmets vs concussions

DoubleDDRedux wrote:

04QSoccerMom wrote:

DoubleDDRedux wrote:I had two concussions when I was a kid. Was wearing a football helmet both times

As I have said multiple times, a soccer headguard does not claim to prevent concussions, only lessen the severity of impact.

I bet a lot of parents would feel different after you see your daughter with a concussion, and have to sit out for weeks. Even if it lessens the blow by 20%, isn't that worth the $50?

Don't think I was arguing against you. Have you ever had a concussion?

04QSoccerMom wrote:

DoubleDDRedux wrote:

04QSoccerMom wrote:

DoubleDDRedux wrote:I had two concussions when I was a kid. Was wearing a football helmet both times

As I have said multiple times, a soccer headguard does not claim to prevent concussions, only lessen the severity of impact.

I bet a lot of parents would feel different after you see your daughter with a concussion, and have to sit out for weeks. Even if it lessens the blow by 20%, isn't that worth the $50?

Don't think I was arguing against you. Have you ever had a concussion?

Yes, I had a concussion when I was younger. If you weren't arguing against me, what was the point?

Xara wrote:

Blank77 wrote:I like the clapping and cheering when the booming punt is headed back 30 yards directly to no one. On the same lines as when you see your defender smashes it right to the opposing defender, but 40 yards away - but over your entire open mid field. Even in D1 I see/hear this all the time, makes no sense.

It's refreshing that other people see it this way, as well. We speak of development, but I'm routinely amazed at the senseless actions on the field that are never questioned:

Headers - Most of them!
Throwins - Thrown "down the line" far too often. There are some great throw-in strategies available, but few use them.
Goal kicks - Another 50/50 ball restart with no strategy whatsoever.
Punts by the keeper - Seldom is there intent. It's just where ever the ball lands, and they are nearly ALWAYS delivered too high and too steeply angled to be of use by the keeper's teammates.
Building walls - Especially further out than around 25-30 yards. Girls usually flinch or duck anyway, and often become more of a visual block for the keeper.
Sweepers - A useless "just in case" position for 95% of many games that relegates one of the 11 players to role of mostly watching the game and running backwards.

Xara wrote:

Blank77 wrote:I like the clapping and cheering when the booming punt is headed back 30 yards directly to no one. On the same lines as when you see your defender smashes it right to the opposing defender, but 40 yards away - but over your entire open mid field. Even in D1 I see/hear this all the time, makes no sense.

It's refreshing that other people see it this way, as well. We speak of development, but I'm routinely amazed at the senseless actions on the field that are never questioned:

Headers - Most of them!
Throwins - Thrown "down the line" far too often. There are some great throw-in strategies available, but few use them.
Goal kicks - Another 50/50 ball restart with no strategy whatsoever.
Punts by the keeper - Seldom is there intent. It's just where ever the ball lands, and they are nearly ALWAYS delivered too high and too steeply angled to be of use by the keeper's teammates.
Building walls - Especially further out than around 25-30 yards. Girls usually flinch or duck anyway, and often become more of a visual block for the keeper.
Sweepers - A useless "just in case" position for 95% of many games that relegates one of the 11 players to role of mostly watching the game and running backwards.

JeffM wrote:

DoubleDDRedux wrote:I had two concussions when I was a kid. Was wearing a football helmet both times

I guess that would explain it.

my2cents wrote:

Xara wrote:

Blank77 wrote:I like the clapping and cheering when the booming punt is headed back 30 yards directly to no one. On the same lines as when you see your defender smashes it right to the opposing defender, but 40 yards away - but over your entire open mid field. Even in D1 I see/hear this all the time, makes no sense.

It's refreshing that other people see it this way, as well. We speak of development, but I'm routinely amazed at the senseless actions on the field that are never questioned:

Headers - Most of them!
Throwins - Thrown "down the line" far too often. There are some great throw-in strategies available, but few use them.
Goal kicks - Another 50/50 ball restart with no strategy whatsoever.
Punts by the keeper - Seldom is there intent. It's just where ever the ball lands, and they are nearly ALWAYS delivered too high and too steeply angled to be of use by the keeper's teammates.
Building walls - Especially further out than around 25-30 yards. Girls usually flinch or duck anyway, and often become more of a visual block for the keeper.
Sweepers - A useless "just in case" position for 95% of many games that relegates one of the 11 players to role of mostly watching the game and running backwards.

If this is what your team is playing and being taught then you are wasting your money. Sweeper ?? who uses a sweeper any more?

Hook It wrote:

Xara wrote:

Blank77 wrote:I like the clapping and cheering when the booming punt is headed back 30 yards directly to no one. On the same lines as when you see your defender smashes it right to the opposing defender, but 40 yards away - but over your entire open mid field. Even in D1 I see/hear this all the time, makes no sense.

It's refreshing that other people see it this way, as well. We speak of development, but I'm routinely amazed at the senseless actions on the field that are never questioned:

Headers - Most of them!
Throwins - Thrown "down the line" far too often. There are some great throw-in strategies available, but few use them.
Goal kicks - Another 50/50 ball restart with no strategy whatsoever.
Punts by the keeper - Seldom is there intent. It's just where ever the ball lands, and they are nearly ALWAYS delivered too high and too steeply angled to be of use by the keeper's teammates.
Building walls - Especially further out than around 25-30 yards. Girls usually flinch or duck anyway, and often become more of a visual block for the keeper.
Sweepers - A useless "just in case" position for 95% of many games that relegates one of the 11 players to role of mostly watching the game and running backwards.

Almost every game I need to move around the sideline to get away from the cheers for the wrong reasons - but alas these are their kids and I must be thankful I am not sitting on the side line of a rec game! Some of the girls have come such a long way, and when they make that extra touch pass on intentional deflection that only a few of us notice..... ahhhh swwweeetnessss!

my2cents wrote:

If this is what your team is playing and being taught then you are wasting your money. Sweeper ?? who uses a sweeper any more?

Uncle Numanga wrote:

my2cents wrote:

If this is what your team is playing and being taught then you are wasting your money. Sweeper ?? who uses a sweeper any more?

Brazil's WNT.

Xara wrote:Head gear might be useful and might not. I guess if a parent wants some inexpensive yet unproven insurance, it's not a bad idea.

The bigger issue is not players using their heads in soccer but the circumstances in which they head the ball. Why teach a player to sacrifice life and limb on a 50/50 ball at midfield? It accomplishes nothing but sending the ball in the other direction as - wait for it - another 50/50 ball. Let the fool on the other team head it so that your own team can control the opponent's lack thereof. Or defenders heading mile-high punts from the opposing keepers? I don't get it. The player is at risk, there is no control, and the ball is sent in the opposite direction with no intent to pass. We complain about kick-and-run soccer; what about head-and-hope?

Going in for a goal off a corner kick makes sense. So does a nice flick header as a fair backpass to the keeper or a redirect off a throw-in to a waiting forward. I would admit that there is risk to just about any play, but the above is nothing like a free-for-all for a ball coming in at an 80 degree angle from a punt or defensive clear into a pack of players.

JeffM wrote:Completely off the OP's topic in two pages. Not bad.

Xara wrote:Head gear might be useful and might not. I guess if a parent wants some inexpensive yet unproven insurance, it's not a bad idea.

The bigger issue is not players using their heads in soccer but the circumstances in which they head the ball. Why teach a player to sacrifice life and limb on a 50/50 ball at midfield? It accomplishes nothing but sending the ball in the other direction as - wait for it - another 50/50 ball. Let the fool on the other team head it so that your own team can control the opponent's lack thereof. Or defenders heading mile-high punts from the opposing keepers? I don't get it. The player is at risk, there is no control, and the ball is sent in the opposite direction with no intent to pass. We complain about kick-and-run soccer; what about head-and-hope?

Going in for a goal off a corner kick makes sense. So does a nice flick header as a fair backpass to the keeper or a redirect off a throw-in to a waiting forward. I would admit that there is risk to just about any play, but the above is nothing like a free-for-all for a ball coming in at an 80 degree angle from a punt or defensive clear into a pack of players.

Xara wrote:Head gear might be useful and might not. I guess if a parent wants some inexpensive yet unproven insurance, it's not a bad idea.

The bigger issue is not players using their heads in soccer but the circumstances in which they head the ball. Why teach a player to sacrifice life and limb on a 50/50 ball at midfield? It accomplishes nothing but sending the ball in the other direction as - wait for it - another 50/50 ball. Let the fool on the other team head it so that your own team can control the opponent's lack thereof. Or defenders heading mile-high punts from the opposing keepers? I don't get it. The player is at risk, there is no control, and the ball is sent in the opposite direction with no intent to pass. We complain about kick-and-run soccer; what about head-and-hope?

Going in for a goal off a corner kick makes sense. So does a nice flick header as a fair backpass to the keeper or a redirect off a throw-in to a waiting forward. I would admit that there is risk to just about any play, but the above is nothing like a free-for-all for a ball coming in at an 80 degree angle from a punt or defensive clear into a pack of players.