04 TGPL 10/27

Winner of above game gets to face RASE for TGPL championship and loser fights it out for 3rd against Aztecs (if they win Saturday). If Aztecs lose their game and Keegan wins then Keegan gets a shot at the 3rd place game.

Matchups this week:

Sting Piper vs. DT Deleon
Sting Scarfone vs. Fever Red
Sting Searls vs. LP Keegan
Juventus Black vs. LP RASE
DT South vs. LP Dalglish
Sting Piper vs. Tx Spirit
Lady Aztecs vs. Texans Deleon

How will it all play out?

Ill start.

Sting Piper vs. DT Deleon 2-1
Sting Scarfone vs. Fever Red 1-2
Sting Searls vs. LP Keegan 1-1
Juventus Black vs. LP RASE 1-5
DT South vs. LP Dalglish 3-2
Sting Piper vs. Tx Spirit 2-2
Lady Aztecs vs. Texans Deleon 3-1

I would like to see DT South do it but seriously the odds are against them.

DT South is basically a small independent club whereas Liverpool is the largest club in North Texas. DT South has probably at best a player pool of 14-18 girls to draw from in the 04 age group whereas Liverpool has at least 350-400 girls to pull from in the same age group.

Let's pretend the two coaches are equal in all coaching abilities who would you pick to win based on these circumstances?

It's basically 5A vs. 1A school scenario.

Based on that I think Dalglish has too much shooting power even for DTS stingy defense to handle.

I'm calling it Dalglish 4 - DTS 2.

MustangGT wrote:I would like to see DT South do it but seriously the odds are against them.

DT South is basically a small independent club whereas Liverpool is the largest club in North Texas. DT South has probably at best a player pool of 14-18 girls to draw from in the 04 age group whereas Liverpool has at least 350-400 girls to pull from in the same age group.

Let's pretend the two coaches are equal in all coaching abilities who would you pick to win based on these circumstances?

It's basically 5A vs. 1A school scenario.

Based on that I think Dalglish has too much shooting power even for DTS stingy defense to handle.

I'm calling it Dalglish 4 - DTS 2.

Is this the same Dalglish that lost to Texas Spirit 3-5 a month and a half ago. Or did they make some improvements or additions?

Yes.. Same team, Same Bat channel. The only difference is LP Dalglish has gelled. Good win by TX Spirit. I'm sure they will see LP Dalglish down the road.

The 5A vs. 1A is extreme but good analogy. Dalglish has the same roster since TGPL started. No need to dig into the geno-pool.

XtremePlay wrote:Yes.. Same team, Same Bat channel. The only difference is LP Dalglish gelled. Good win by TX Spirit. I'm sure they will see LP Dalglish down the road.

The 5A vs. 1A is extreme but good analogy. Dalglish has the same roster since TGPL started. No need to dig into the geno-pool.

Yea but there were changes to several LP teams for TGPL including Dalglish which is my point. Great players in Liverpool are identified and pulled up to their top teams. This is the goal of a big club machine like Liverpool has become and is why they have exploded into north Texas soccer quicker and bigger than any club in history.

Yes, as far as I know exactly the same team which just had a bad game. Roster has not changed at all from start of the fall season. These are 8 year old kids so anything can happen from one day to the next. For example, DTS squeaked by Sting Piper 1-0 while Dalglish put 5 past them so it is tough to read too much into single results. What is admirable IMO is that LW has kept Dalglish near the top of the tree while still running the School of Excellence team in the same age group.

Looks like the Pollsters were correct on this one.

XtremePlay wrote:Looks like the Pollsters were correct on this one.

Yes and no. I expected Dalglish to put more goals up and the only goal they got was from a close free kick off of penalty and off a tough bounce.

I didn't see the first half but in the second half it seemed to me that DTS created more opportunties from passing but they just couldn't put the ball in the net.

It was certainly a close game but again, the DTS defence didn't give up any non-penalty goals and I expected them to give up 3 or 4 with the firepower that Dalglish has. The keepers on both teams played well and made good stops.

Of course credit the Dalglish defense too for playing tough the entire game and shutting down the scoring chances DTS did have. Many times a tough defense can throw you off of your game even for what seems like easier shots because you feel rushed and the Dalglish defense deserves credit for just that. By the way, they have to have the tallest girls in the 04 group on that team.

If DTS can improve on putting up goals they will be tough to beat. Is it just me or does that seem like a common theme for DTS teams?

MustangGT wrote:

XtremePlay wrote:Looks like the Pollsters were correct on this one.

Yes and no. I expected Dalglish to put more goals up and the only goal they got was from a close free kick off of penalty and off a tough bounce.

I didn't see the first half but in the second half it seemed to me that DTS created more opportunties from passing but they just couldn't put the ball in the net.

It was certainly a close game but again, the DTS defence didn't give up any non-penalty goals and I expected them to give up 3 or 4 with the firepower that Dalglish has. The keepers on both teams played well and made good stops.

Of course credit the Dalglish defense too for playing tough the entire game and shutting down the scoring chances DTS did have. Many times a tough defense can throw you off of your game even for what seems like easier shots because you feel rushed and the Dalglish defense deserves credit for just that. By the way, they have to have the tallest girls in the 04 group on that team.

If DTS can improve on putting up goals they will be tough to beat. Is it just me or does that seem like a common theme for DTS teams?

Just to be clear, Dalglish had many scoring chances as well and as far as the "close" free kick, it was from about 5 yds inside mid field. I don't think "close" would be the way to describe that one. And it was a foul, not a penalty

The question was who do we believe will win DTS or LP Dalglish. Whoever voted LP Dalglish were correct. Either you win or you walk away with an "L".

My interpretation from what I saw, DTS had a sweeper and cleared everything that came her way down the field. Kind of hard to score when you have a good sweeper that clears it back down field. I believe that was the key that kept the game close in their (DTS) favor.

DTS is an aggressive team. That style of play has been successful for them and they win games. I still believe LP Dalglish had more opportunity to score given the circumstance.

XtremePlay wrote:The question was who do we believe will win DTS or LP Dalglish. Whoever voted LP Dalglish were correct. Either you win or you walk away with an "L".

My interpretation from what I saw, DTS had a sweeper and cleared everything that came her way down the field. Kind of hard to score when you have a good sweeper that clears it back down field. I believe that was the key that kept the game close in their (DTS) favor.

DTS is an aggressive team. That style of play has been successful for them and they win games. I still believe LP Dalglish had more opportunity to score given the circumstance.

"Kept them in the game"? What are you talking about?

I'm going to guess we watched two different games or your kid was playing.

Saying DTS was "aggressive" is Liverpool code for "they play physical but not beautiful soccer like us". DTS is aggressive but they also passed the ball better especially in their attacking side. The only good chances I saw from Dalglish were from bigger girls penetrating deep and taking their own shots. DTS had several good chances all from good passes. Again, I only saw the 2nd half but other Sting parent confirmed 1st half was similar.

Make no mistake, if LW plays RASE and Dalglish straight up and legit, RASE would win 6-0 or 6-1. Dalgligh does not play like RASE and does not have shooters like RASE either. Hate to break that to you. I guarantee you RASE parents would rather play DTS for several reason, one because they know it would be a better game.

Oh and sorry, but if the foul were 5 feet closer to the goal it would have been a "penalty". The goal you guys got off of DTS was from a bounce their keeper goofed on. It was not spectacular and was not from a created opportunity with "beautiful soccer". You barely squeezed by DTS so don't get on here and pretend you played a level above them. Even though I posted earlier that I thought Dalglish would win 4-2, I actualy thought the better team lost that game in my opinion from what I saw.

don't know about LP code but DTS is aggressive, RASE is also aggressive. One of the things I think gets Dalglish in trouble at times is that they are not aggressive enough at times and can be overwhelmed by hard charging teams. I was expecting a LP 1,2 at the beginning of the season but not crazy about a finals. I have seen too many games between sister teams create some bad feelings between over competative parents and just poison player pools.

MustangGT wrote:

XtremePlay wrote:The question was who do we believe will win DTS or LP Dalglish. Whoever voted LP Dalglish were correct. Either you win or you walk away with an "L".

My interpretation from what I saw, DTS had a sweeper and cleared everything that came her way down the field. Kind of hard to score when you have a good sweeper that clears it back down field. I believe that was the key that kept the game close in their (DTS) favor.

DTS is an aggressive team. That style of play has been successful for them and they win games. I still believe LP Dalglish had more opportunity to score given the circumstance.

"Kept them in the game"? What are you talking about?

I'm going to guess we watched two different games or your kid was playing.

Saying DTS was "aggressive" is Liverpool code for "they play physical but not beautiful soccer like us". DTS is aggressive but they also passed the ball better especially in their attacking side. The only good chances I saw from Dalglish were from bigger girls penetrating deep and taking their own shots. DTS had several good chances all from good passes. Again, I only saw the 2nd half but other Sting parent confirmed 1st half was similar.

Make no mistake, if LW plays RASE and Dalglish straight up and legit, RASE would win 6-0 or 6-1. Dalgligh does not play like RASE and does not have shooters like RASE either. Hate to break that to you. I guarantee you RASE parents would rather play DTS for several reason, one because they know it would be a better game.

Oh and sorry, but if the foul were 5 feet closer to the goal it would have been a "penalty". The goal you guys got off of DTS was from a bounce their keeper goofed on. It was not spectacular and was not from a created opportunity with "beautiful soccer". You barely squeezed by DTS so don't get on here and pretend you played a level above them. Even though I posted earlier that I thought Dalglish would win 4-2, I actualy thought the better team lost that game in my opinion from what I saw.

We could argue your ranting opinions all day, but that would be pointless. How many passes did the DT defenders complete....and no, kicking it 30yds up field does not count. And once again, the FOUL was no where NEAR the box, so don't act like it was some close FK that LP lucked out on. Get over it. I know you only some how saw the chances created by dt, maybe choosing not to see the ones created by LP. I don't know, but your assesment of the game is laughable

MustangGT wrote:

XtremePlay wrote:The question was who do we believe will win DTS or LP Dalglish. Whoever voted LP Dalglish were correct. Either you win or you walk away with an "L".

My interpretation from what I saw, DTS had a sweeper and cleared everything that came her way down the field. Kind of hard to score when you have a good sweeper that clears it back down field. I believe that was the key that kept the game close in their (DTS) favor.

DTS is an aggressive team. That style of play has been successful for them and they win games. I still believe LP Dalglish had more opportunity to score given the circumstance.

"Kept them in the game"? What are you talking about?

I'm going to guess we watched two different games or your kid was playing.

Saying DTS was "aggressive" is Liverpool code for "they play physical but not beautiful soccer like us". DTS is aggressive but they also passed the ball better especially in their attacking side. The only good chances I saw from Dalglish were from bigger girls penetrating deep and taking their own shots. DTS had several good chances all from good passes. Again, I only saw the 2nd half but other Sting parent confirmed 1st half was similar.

Make no mistake, if LW plays RASE and Dalglish straight up and legit, RASE would win 6-0 or 6-1. Dalgligh does not play like RASE and does not have shooters like RASE either. Hate to break that to you. I guarantee you RASE parents would rather play DTS for several reason, one because they know it would be a better game.

Oh and sorry, but if the foul were 5 feet closer to the goal it would have been a "penalty". The goal you guys got off of DTS was from a bounce their keeper goofed on. It was not spectacular and was not from a created opportunity with "beautiful soccer". You barely squeezed by DTS so don't get on here and pretend you played a level above them. Even though I posted earlier that I thought Dalglish would win 4-2, I actualy thought the better team lost that game in my opinion from what I saw.

Here we go, putting words "Code" I didnt say in my mouth.. From what I recall, it was only one person in this thread that gave a prediction .. "You". I don't believe Dalglish parent thought this was going to be a push over game. I'm sure the DTS parents walked away from that game "saying they should have won", but I don't believe the Dalglish parents walked away saying "oh wow, I'm glad we won".

You barely squeezed by DTS so don't get on here and pretend you played a level above them.

This game this past weekend was about "Respect", yes I said it.. You can play all the "beautiful soccer" and connect with all great passes, but if you don't put it in the goal, "it doesn't matter".. Dalglish defense as a team did what they were suppose to do, pitch a shutout. Free kicks, penalty kicks, whatever you want to call them, are part of the game. Just like free throws in basketball. A foul was committed so you get a chance to score.

And, Yes... I'm going to stick to what I said before. DTS had a great sweeper that kept them in the game. She cleared balls that come her way down field.

Make no mistake, if LW plays RASE and Dalglish straight up and legit, RASE would win 6-0 or 6-1

This is your opinion. Just like your scores between LP Dalglish and DTS were so far off. It's about match up and that's why you play the game.

M R Balls wrote:

MustangGT wrote:

XtremePlay wrote:The question was who do we believe will win DTS or LP Dalglish. Whoever voted LP Dalglish were correct. Either you win or you walk away with an "L".

My interpretation from what I saw, DTS had a sweeper and cleared everything that came her way down the field. Kind of hard to score when you have a good sweeper that clears it back down field. I believe that was the key that kept the game close in their (DTS) favor.

DTS is an aggressive team. That style of play has been successful for them and they win games. I still believe LP Dalglish had more opportunity to score given the circumstance.

"Kept them in the game"? What are you talking about?

I'm going to guess we watched two different games or your kid was playing.

Saying DTS was "aggressive" is Liverpool code for "they play physical but not beautiful soccer like us". DTS is aggressive but they also passed the ball better especially in their attacking side. The only good chances I saw from Dalglish were from bigger girls penetrating deep and taking their own shots. DTS had several good chances all from good passes. Again, I only saw the 2nd half but other Sting parent confirmed 1st half was similar.

Make no mistake, if LW plays RASE and Dalglish straight up and legit, RASE would win 6-0 or 6-1. Dalgligh does not play like RASE and does not have shooters like RASE either. Hate to break that to you. I guarantee you RASE parents would rather play DTS for several reason, one because they know it would be a better game.

Oh and sorry, but if the foul were 5 feet closer to the goal it would have been a "penalty". The goal you guys got off of DTS was from a bounce their keeper goofed on. It was not spectacular and was not from a created opportunity with "beautiful soccer". You barely squeezed by DTS so don't get on here and pretend you played a level above them. Even though I posted earlier that I thought Dalglish would win 4-2, I actualy thought the better team lost that game in my opinion from what I saw.

We could argue your ranting opinions all day, but that would be pointless. How many passes did the DT defenders complete....and no, kicking it 30yds up field does not count. And once again, the FOUL was no where NEAR the box, so don't act like it was some close FK that LP lucked out on. Get over it. I know you only some how saw the chances created by dt, maybe choosing not to see the ones created by LP. I don't know, but your assesment of the game is laughable

What??? Do you watch any soccer other than kids in north Texas?

There is nothing wrong with catching a team in transition and putting the ball back to your forwards or mids up the field. Are only good passes those made within 10 yards?

Forget it you are right. DTS played sloppy kick ball and Dalglish scored with a spectacular shot on goal 50 yards out. It was amazing and a miracle DTS escaped with only a 1-0 line with all of the beautiful soccer Dalglish played. If I was Dalglish I would be pumped that our team was CLEARLY number 2 in the league despite not playing Aztecs or RASE in the schedule.

I am done defending some other team. You win.

MustangGT wrote:

M R Balls wrote:

MustangGT wrote:

XtremePlay wrote:The question was who do we believe will win DTS or LP Dalglish. Whoever voted LP Dalglish were correct. Either you win or you walk away with an "L".

My interpretation from what I saw, DTS had a sweeper and cleared everything that came her way down the field. Kind of hard to score when you have a good sweeper that clears it back down field. I believe that was the key that kept the game close in their (DTS) favor.

DTS is an aggressive team. That style of play has been successful for them and they win games. I still believe LP Dalglish had more opportunity to score given the circumstance.

"Kept them in the game"? What are you talking about?

I'm going to guess we watched two different games or your kid was playing.

Saying DTS was "aggressive" is Liverpool code for "they play physical but not beautiful soccer like us". DTS is aggressive but they also passed the ball better especially in their attacking side. The only good chances I saw from Dalglish were from bigger girls penetrating deep and taking their own shots. DTS had several good chances all from good passes. Again, I only saw the 2nd half but other Sting parent confirmed 1st half was similar.

Make no mistake, if LW plays RASE and Dalglish straight up and legit, RASE would win 6-0 or 6-1. Dalgligh does not play like RASE and does not have shooters like RASE either. Hate to break that to you. I guarantee you RASE parents would rather play DTS for several reason, one because they know it would be a better game.

Oh and sorry, but if the foul were 5 feet closer to the goal it would have been a "penalty". The goal you guys got off of DTS was from a bounce their keeper goofed on. It was not spectacular and was not from a created opportunity with "beautiful soccer". You barely squeezed by DTS so don't get on here and pretend you played a level above them. Even though I posted earlier that I thought Dalglish would win 4-2, I actualy thought the better team lost that game in my opinion from what I saw.

We could argue your ranting opinions all day, but that would be pointless. How many passes did the DT defenders complete....and no, kicking it 30yds up field does not count. And once again, the FOUL was no where NEAR the box, so don't act like it was some close FK that LP lucked out on. Get over it. I know you only some how saw the chances created by dt, maybe choosing not to see the ones created by LP. I don't know, but your assesment of the game is laughable

What??? Do you watch any soccer other than kids in north Texas?

There is nothing wrong with catching a team in transition and putting the ball back to your forwards or mids up the field. Are only good passes those made within 10 yards?

Forget it you are right. DTS played sloppy kick ball and Dalglish scored with a spectacular shot on goal 50 yards out. It was amazing and a miracle DTS escaped with only a 1-0 line with all of the beautiful soccer Dalglish played. If I was Dalglish I would be pumped that our team was CLEARLY number 2 in the league despite not playing Aztecs or RASE in the schedule.

I am done defending some other team. You win.

Just FYI, nobody came on here saying LP played the greatest, beautiful game ever played and dominated DT. I believe it was you that went off on LP saying they didn't create anything and were lucky to get a goal, and that the FK was from the edge of the box, which couldn't be further from the truth. Are long balls played? Yes. LP had a few long balls. Do I have a problem with long balls? No. I think it was just pointed out that the long ball was the bread and butter for the DT sweeper. Personally, I thought it was a great, hard fought game and I would like to see ALL of our games like that. The 6-0, 7-1 wins are not going to develope the kids like tough close games such as this one. Their were very good chances in this game at both ends. If DT would have capitalized on one and LP not, it would have still been a great game for both teams. But in a tough match up, sometimes it just comes down to connecting on that one oppurtunity.

DTS is a good team, top three in my opinion (which means absolutely nothing). Can they beat Dalglish ?...Yes, It is a close match up ?...Absolutely. The games Saturday was a good game, no doubt. DTS does have a great sweeper who played the ball out of the back well. DTS defense did a good job of keeping out forwards at bay. Best defense we have faced. All around the team is fast, aggressive and tries to play nice soccer. Dalglish did get pressured, but handled it well. Did Dalglish clear some balls out?....Yes but not every time, they stuck to what they are taught and thats to pass out of the back to the center or wings and move the ball forward from there. Dalglish had numerous balls from mid passed up to the forwards, and plenty of pressures on DTS defense. DTS had some the other way as well. Did DTS stick to their coaching? I have no clue as I dont know what Coach Adames teaches them, but they are skilled enough I bet they did. Good for them! Bottom line...good game between two good teams. We have played 3 times...two ties and a win for Dalglish by one goal, that should tell you its pretty even. I think everyone overlooked Dalglish when we lost to Spirit. Did they play better than us in that game...Obviously so, Spirit is much improved and playing nice soccer.

Dalglish (and RASE) plays a ton of soccer, more than anyone else...look at the past FBR numbers in June and you will see games played. And that doesn't count two tourneys that we played up in. Somehow we continue to get bashed and overlooked. Dont get me wrong, everyone is entitled to their own opinion and that's fine. Comments just always seems to be condescending towards LP. I know it goes the other way as well but not from any Dalglish Parent that I know about. Personally I dont care, my DD is learning and having a great time. But as another frequent poster on the forum stated....Ill continue to defend my DD team as long as folks want to be haters.

And the RASE VS Dalglish question. RASE is the best 04 team around. I think they have proved and earned that (and taken plenty of heat along the way). 6-0 or 6-1...well who knows, but we have the same coach and we do scrimmage from time to time, and its always close....very close.... probably due to the fact that the girls play even harder against each other, and they all know what the others are going to do...they are coached the same!

But thats OK folks just keep looking past Dalglish we are OK with that, we have done pretty well as the overlooked second team. (And just to be clear, I dont mean that RASE overlooked us, all the DDs and parents are friends and get along well and support each other. We come and watch them play and they do the same) Sorry to burst everyones bubble but we actually do get along.

And one last thing. Going to put this myth to rest.. This line below.

If I was Dalglish I would be pumped that our team was CLEARLY number 2 in the league despite not playing Aztecs or RASE in the schedule.

I guess LP Dalglish has found ways to avoid RASE and Aztecs. Given we only played Aztecs twice this past summer with Dalglish winning both time 3-1. So what are people going to say next, "that was a different Aztecs team"..

FYI - http://www.primetimefiles.com/pdf/8%2E17%2E12%2EU9G%2Epdf

It was scheduled to happen RASE vs. LP Dalglish but I guess the soccer gods wouldn't allow it to happen. Tournament was rained out...

I'm so done with LP Dalglish running from competition. What else has to be proven to the world!!!

sure is alot of talk for a win from a team that 65% of the people thought would win. Seems kinda par for the course to me. Dalglish beat a team I expected them too. boooooring!!!! Now how about a DTS vs Solar kenn, Scott, or Rosales. Scott seems to have risen to the top (called it) but how do they stack up against DTS?

Just to be clear Mustang is not a South parent.

It was a good game and we look forward to the next matchup.

MrRogers wrote:
Just to be clear Mustang is not a South parent.

It was a good game and we look forward to the next matchup.

Agreed

go99 wrote:sure is alot of talk for a win from a team that 65% of the people thought would win. Seems kinda par for the course to me. Dalglish beat a team I expected them too. boooooring!!!! Now how about a DTS vs Solar kenn, Scott, or Rosales. Scott seems to have risen to the top (called it) but how do they stack up against DTS?

Yall need to keep Solar-Kenn, Scott and Rosales out of it!!!! They got tough rec games comming up this weekend. But I did hear that DeLeon has a new "guest" player.....LOL. Had to do it coach!!!!

LMAO that is too good