ODP tryouts

Itsme wrote:

Referee wrote:  How about paying your bills?     To some $ is no object.  To some of us paying club fees is barely making it.  Paying for this and that is  not going to make your kid better.  Hard work does.  See?  "So we can sign up"  Oh my kid is not strong enough...   Let's find her a private muscle builder.   Oh she's not coordinated enough..  Let's find a tutor to make her better.  Meanwhile the kid could care less about the class.
 We had a girl that came in.  Dad and Mom said:   She attended ODP.  We all go  WOW!   she's gotta be pretty darn good.   Ahem!   disapointment.   Cut!
 Then the coach goes.  We're having finishing sessions on Fridays for $20 a session.
 Wait a sec.  Defenders and goalies don't need finishing since they're in the back defending.
It's like having the forwards take part in  goalie practices.

Congratulations.  This may be the stupidest post I've seen in six years trolling this forum and its predecessor.

And that is saying something with the dribble posted on here by coachr!

Blank77 wrote:

Itsme wrote:

Referee wrote:  How about paying your bills?     To some $ is no object.  To some of us paying club fees is barely making it.  Paying for this and that is  not going to make your kid better.  Hard work does.  See?  "So we can sign up"  Oh my kid is not strong enough...   Let's find her a private muscle builder.   Oh she's not coordinated enough..  Let's find a tutor to make her better.  Meanwhile the kid could care less about the class.
 We had a girl that came in.  Dad and Mom said:   She attended ODP.  We all go  WOW!   she's gotta be pretty darn good.   Ahem!   disapointment.   Cut!
 Then the coach goes.  We're having finishing sessions on Fridays for $20 a session.
 Wait a sec.  Defenders and goalies don't need finishing since they're in the back defending.
It's like having the forwards take part in  goalie practices.

Congratulations.  This may be the stupidest post I've seen in six years trolling this forum and its predecessor.

And that is saying something with the dribble posted on here by coachr!

Not to mention some of the drivel I've posted.

Ed wrote:

Referee wrote:If you say so.
 Go on then and keep paying and paying.

Referee, it seems you have a DD that simply isn't motivated to play soccer, but is doing so to please you (or you are forcing her). Let her quit and find her own passion.

Oh this is going to be good....I cant wait to see Ref's response

It amazes me that everyone here gets so worked up on this.   Everybody claims to know and brag about their deep knowledge in soccer.  If you know so much, then why do you keep hiring others to train your kid?   Why do you pay these so called professionals to ask your kid to kick the ball around?
 I mean,these professionals don't know more than you do  if you've been around soccer 10 years or more.
 I pay the coach because the system is designed that way.  I have no choice.  You on the other hand prefer to pay somebody else.  Why don't you get off your chair on non practice days and kick the ball around with her?  It'll do you good and it helps understand and connect with your kid.
 But of course you're probably to fat and to lazy to do it.  
 Most of the best players in the world come from poor backgrounds and they don't have access to these corny fancy special programs.  They turn out just fine.
 North Texas is a hot bed in girls soccer.  But we never see a single one represent us in the Junior Olympics.  Why do you think that is?

Referee wrote:It amazes me that everyone here gets so worked up on this.   Everybody claims to know and brag about their deep knowledge in soccer.  If you know so much, then why do you keep hiring others to train your kid?   Why do you pay these so called professionals to ask your kid to kick the ball around?
 I mean,these professionals don't know more than you do  if you've been around soccer 10 years or more.
 I pay the coach because the system is designed that way.  I have no choice.  You on the other hand prefer to pay somebody else.  Why don't you get off your chair on non practice days and kick the ball around with her?  It'll do you good and it helps understand and connect with your kid.
 But of course you're probably to fat and to lazy to do it.  
 Most of the best players in the world come from poor backgrounds and they don't have access to these corny fancy special programs.  They turn out just fine.
 North Texas is a hot bed in girls soccer.  But we never see a single one represent us in the Junior Olympics.  Why do you think that is?

Because of the referees.

LOL! Love your sense of humor:P 

Ah, the myth of the barefoot phenom who magically turns his back-alley futbol into fortune and fame! Reality is the best players, rich or poor, were discovered early and trained professionally in the academy systems in Brazil, Spain, etc.

As to your earlier comments about ODP being a complete waste of money, well, some may feel that way. Others might think that meeting and competing with kids from throughout the Region and having them become lifelong friends was worth every penny.

MoveYourFeet wrote:

Referee wrote:It amazes me that everyone here gets so worked up on this.   Everybody claims to know and brag about their deep knowledge in soccer.  If you know so much, then why do you keep hiring others to train your kid?   Why do you pay these so called professionals to ask your kid to kick the ball around?
 I mean,these professionals don't know more than you do  if you've been around soccer 10 years or more.
 I pay the coach because the system is designed that way.  I have no choice.  You on the other hand prefer to pay somebody else.  Why don't you get off your chair on non practice days and kick the ball around with her?  It'll do you good and it helps understand and connect with your kid.
 But of course you're probably to fat and to lazy to do it.  
 Most of the best players in the world come from poor backgrounds and they don't have access to these corny fancy special programs.  They turn out just fine.
 North Texas is a hot bed in girls soccer.  But we never see a single one represent us in the Junior Olympics.  Why do you think that is?

Because of the referees.

honestly, it is because most of the girls here are smart and have more then soccer to rely on for life. When a NTX girl gets on with life, sure the Olympics are cool, but that's a narrow dream and they get an education, a good career, and family - basically they have plenty of options for a fulfilling life. While the poor/disadvantaged what are her options alternatively then soccer - not nearly as appealing I bet.

My situation was probably similiar to many of these girls as I was a recruited baseball player, but after high school I went to a d1 school for a business degree and a career over the long shot of a life playing ball. I had options, but if my family was broke and I had no choice, I would have went athletic and probably worked harder.

Ref, do you have children? If so, as they were growing up, did they behave far better at a friend's house than they did at home? Were you complimented on their wonderful behavior and look at the person as if they had just grown a second head? Did you think they had mistaken someone else's child for yours?

Well, that is why it is a good thing to pay someone else to teach your child. They listen to them far better than to a parent. They live with you. They know every one of your "glory day" stories. They won't think you are all that until they are grown and have their own children.

As to your questions, I think I agree with Move!  

Making it big is such a pipe dream. The shear number game just about prohibits it all together.

So let's say the Olympic/National team is the goal for these kids. Great, but how realistic is that? Not very. How many are on that roster? Very, very few. And what is the turnover of that roster? Very, very little. So really, how many spots are available to be had on the big team every year? One, two, three? The odds of it being anyone from any particular region is very slim.

As I've told my athletes and parents that have played for me (not a soccer coach), to be the best of the best requires a lot. But I always break it down into 2 main categories. God-given talent and work ethic. If your God-given talent is a 10, but your work ethic is lacking, you will surely never make it. And as we all know, some of those amazing talents tend to not work as hard as others because there is never a need to do so. They are already the best, so why work harder?

If your work ethic is a 10, but your God-given ability is lacking, I have tremendous respect for you, but you most likely will not make it at the highest levels (but I do think these types tend to climb higher than the previous type).

Obviously, you can advance your ability and work ethic up and down the scale, but I don't know if some will ever be able to get to that elite level without a certain ability that was just afforded to them at birth. That is a tough one.

The ones that tend to be "that one" are the ones that have that tremendous ability that sets them high above the rest, and they work at it harder than anyone else on a consistent basis. There are many more factors than this, but these two are the easiest to spot. We all know who the super athletes are after watching them for a certain amount of time, and we can all easily evaluate how hard they work at their craft on their own.

The kids that have a 10 in both of these categories are the ones that will have a chance...just a chance.

Not to mention parents that encourage them the right way and set an example.
 The fat ones are the worst.  They're the ones that scream the loudest.   They sit on the sidelines with loads of greasy stuff and scream at the top of their lungs. Usually with a double seat chair.   FASTER !!!!    
 Very rare to find a 10-10 MoveYourFeet.   Possible but very rare.

Referee wrote:Not to mention parents that encourage them the right way and set an example.
 The fat ones are the worst.  They're the ones that scream the loudest.   They sit on the sidelines with loads of greasy stuff and scream at the top of their lungs. Usually with a double seat chair.   FASTER !!!!    
 Very rare to find a 10-10 MoveYourFeet.   Possible but very rare.

 
yes that is it, the problem is with fat people. I've noticed the fat referees are the worst. They can't keep up with the speed of play, miss calls because they are too far from where they should be and often just guess something happened because they are out of position. And they make up fouls just to slow down play to catch their breath.

Saw the info for the '02 & '03 tryouts in August/September. I wasn't aware they started it that early. My '04 DD's birthday is Oct '03. Is she eligible?

soccerdad1969 wrote:Saw the info for the '02 & '03 tryouts in August/September. I wasn't aware they started it that early. My '04 DD's birthday is Oct '03. Is she eligible?

ODP is based on Calendar year: January to December. Have her try out, no matter the results, it's more touches and a good experience.

Last day of tryouts for the '02/'03s is labor day weekend. A lot of people probably miss that one due to holiday and some of the busiest tournaments of the year. Wonder why they chose that date?

soccerdad1969 wrote:Last day of tryouts for the '02/'03s is labor day weekend. A lot of people probably miss that one due to holiday and some of the busiest tournaments of the year. Wonder why they chose that date?

They calendar is usually off! They will send you a schedule for location and training dates as soon as it is available. Once you register you will be put on the mass e-mail list for information.

This was an email.

soccerdad1969 wrote:This was an email.

It's a conspiracy and what better way to cut some dead weight!

The ODP director claims it was a misprint... the last tryout weekend is actually Sept 8, not Sept 1.

Good to know. Thanks.

soccerdad1969 wrote:Good to know. Thanks.

I think I said earlier that it could be wrong and would be changed.

Thanks. Do you think they will send email confirming?

soccerdad1969 wrote:Thanks. Do you think they will send email confirming?

Yes, they usually are pretty good about e-mailing changes and reminders. Usually you will need to be very patient, but they seem to get it right. Labor Day is a huge tournament weekend I figured they were going to have a hard time securing practice fields. Unless they send you to Arlington. Good Luck to you and your DD. keep us posted on your successes.

Thanks! The original location is in pioneer parkway in arlington.

That practice location does not work for us. We usually miss the practices when they are in Arlington.

UEFA wrote:That practice location does not work for us. We usually miss the practices when they are in Arlington.

then odp may not be for you, looks like everything will be in arlington...which sucks