Scores needed for first FBR

Looking to post first FBR for the 07 group soon.

If you would like your team to be considered for the upcoming FBR and play in a league that does not publish scores please post your scores here. If you prefer not to post your scores you can email your scores to: FBR07G@mail.com. The emailed scores will remain anonymous.

The only scores that count for rankings are scores from full sided games against other 07 teams. Teams playing against 06s or small sided scores are irrelevant so no need to email. The same ranking formula from previous age group FBRs will be used.

Email your scores and stay tuned.

FBR07G@mail.com

good luck with that!

FBR07G wrote:Looking to post first FBR for the 07 group soon.

If you would like your team to be considered for the upcoming FBR and play in a league that does not publish scores please post your scores here.  If you prefer not to post your scores you can email your scores to:  FBR07G@mail.com.  The emailed scores will remain anonymous.

The only scores that count for rankings are scores from full sided games against other 07 teams.  Teams playing against 06s or small sided scores are irrelevant so no need to email.  The same ranking formula from previous age group FBRs will be used.

Email your scores and stay tuned.

FBR07G@mail.com

Well goodness knows we could not live without a 2nd grade FBR.

I am not much of a fan of FBR until closer to select, but at least BW was above board with everything, With him you understood/trusted the process and data entry.

So in that regard have you trained with B or BW on FBR? Also are you willing to give what club/team you are affiliated with?

This could get interesting... maybe its secretly me? LOL

Well that’s my point B. Did you or BW create a new user name when you decided to do FBR? Why not use your prior user name? Only reason I can think of is it may bring into doubt legitimacy…but hey happy to be wrong on this- just show me.

Well, its not me. Im not that crazy. Haha

Regarding the 07 FBR, BW has been involved from the get go 2 months ago. He, as recently as today, has provided his insightful feedback on the current data. He has been very helpful in continuing to provide guidance and expertise while reviewing the rankings to get this off the ground. (Most appreciated BW)

The same formulas and systems are being used and he is providing training as this is very complex. The FBR will be published in the next couple weeks once there are 5 to 6 games per team. If you are playing UAL or SDL and want to be included in the rankings please email your scores.

There will be no 'De Facto's', so only full sided games against 07 teams will be counted. Also teams that are made up of players from another ranked team will be noted. Such as Kicks, LP and possibly Sting East (still confirming) teams are mostly the same girls with different team names. When this information becomes apparent, one of the duplicated teams will be noted and distinguished.

Also, 3 top level teams aren't currently playing 07s(Solar Abbott, RASE, and FCD Webb). The goal here is to provide an unbiased statistical analysis of the performance of some of the 07 girls teams in North Texas. While there is some subjectivity initially, the data will prove itself in time. Once we have a season under the belt and a tournament or two where teams from different leagues play each other the rankings will become less subjective.

Feel free to email scores for UAL and SDL to FBR07G@mail.com

This is funny.

So every team that uses a "guess" player will have be "noted".

Word of advice you are already setting yourself up for more crap than I or BW ever caught or will catch.

Good luck trying to track that and confirm on a weekly basis. Let's see how many gmail accounts anyone will create to be sure and report guess players.

I am not FBR07G. I haven't hidden behind a different screen name for the past 5 years, why would I need to start now?

I am training and helping FBR07G to get the '07 FBR off the ground and running. I will review data, and provide input and guidance when requested. But just as the '06 FBR is Borussia's gig, not mine, the '07 FBR is FBR07G's gig, not mine.

FBR07G's request is to stay anonymous, so as to avoid as much as possible, any accusations of personal and/or club bias. I will honor that request.

Thanks for helping him/her out BW. After reading the posts from the 05's & 06's for the past 3 years I can see why the new guy/girl wants to remain "anonymous".
All I gotta say is thank God I'm not doing it. I'd be cheating like a fiend

bwgophers wrote:I am not FBR07G.  I haven't hidden behind a different screen name for the past 5 years, why would I need to start now?

I am training and helping FBR07G to get the '07 FBR off the ground and running.  I will review data, and provide input and guidance when requested.  But just as the '06 FBR is Borussia's gig, not mine, the '07 FBR is FBR07G's gig, not mine.

FBR07G's request is to stay anonymous, so as to avoid as much as possible, any accusations of personal and/or club bias. I will honor that request.

BW I think you misinterpreted my post. I know you (and B) have not hidden behind a different name, which is exactly my point.

My question is why is FBR07 hiding behind a different name? I understand the desire to be anonymous, but part of the credibility behind FBR is having some trust in those doing it, would you not agree BW? I mean for example how do we know it is not a coach?

Look I have never been a big FBR fan at this age level- largely because of what it ends up being used for. Correct me if I am wrong here, but doing FBR is much more subjective than just throwing in some scores especially at the beginning (i.e. setting up tiers etc). Heck as FBR07 just said he is going to make some subjective inclusions/exclusions and notes. Not here to preach/ fight FBR happening, but at minimum would like to have some faith in who is doing it and/or at least understanding what affiliations they have. Do you disagree BW?

bigtex wrote:
Look I have never been a big FBR fan at this age level- largely because of what it ends up being used for.  Correct me if I am wrong here, but doing FBR is much more subjective than just throwing in some scores especially at the beginning (i.e. setting up tiers etc).  Heck as FBR07 just said he is going to make some subjective inclusions/exclusions and notes.  Not here to preach/ fight  FBR happening, but at minimum would like to have some faith in who is doing it and/or at least understanding what affiliations they have.  Do you disagree BW?

Big tex, you know so much about so many 07 teams, you could rank the top 10 and except for maybe a minor LP bias, be spot on.  Those of us that have been around for 2 years know who is good and who is still developing.  I doubt FBR is going to tell you or me anything we don't already know.  Certain leagues post scores, go look at standings to see who is at the top(especially CFBAL   ). That is probably the best reflection of who is how good once all the games are played.

So in short, you, me and many others both gonna know if it BS or not....

Actually I do not agree Joe. I may have a good idea of the teams playing CFBAl, but I have no clue in general about the teams out West, etc.…so I would not begin to know what tiers to establish. And my concern is not what informed parents do with FBR- it is the opposite.

Anyway maybe I am the only one with any concerns in these regard and the possibility of a coach doing FBR does not bother anyone else? Or maybe BW can at least stipulate that FBR07 is not a coach?

And I guess in reality it is probably not really that hard to figure out the affiliation here given the limited 07 posters and those not interested in FBR anyway

FBR07G wrote:Looking to post first FBR for the 07 group soon.

If you would like your team to be considered for the upcoming FBR and play in a league that does not publish scores please post your scores here.  If you prefer not to post your scores you can email your scores to:  FBR07G@mail.com.  The emailed scores will remain anonymous.

The only scores that count for rankings are scores from full sided games against other 07 teams.  Teams playing against 06s or small sided scores are irrelevant so no need to email.  The same ranking formula from previous age group FBRs will be used.

Email your scores and stay tuned.

FBR07G@mail.com

Damn. I was beginning to think the '07s would escape this nonsense.

No way that was going to happen.

bigtex wrote:  Or maybe BW can at least stipulate that FBR07 is not a coach?  

BigTex - Just like you and I have never met irl, FBR07 and I have never met irl. As far as I can tell through my exchanges with FBR07, he/she is not a coach, which is no different from what I can say about you, based on the exchanges that you and I have had in the past.

I'm never going to tell anyone how they should go about publishing rankings. I'll gladly train them on my methodology, give them advice/opinion on what has/hasn't worked well for me over the years, and answer their questions when they bring them to me. However, I make it very clear that they will "own" their rankings, not me. Since that is the case, it's completely up to them to set their own conditions for publishing that make them comfortable. They can follow my methodology and my advice exactly, or they can deviate from it in whatever way they see fit. What they choose to do, and to what degree they want to let everyone know about it, is strictly up to them.

I warn them that publishing rankings is not for the faint of heart, or for those with a thin skin. Whether or not their affiliation is known, they will get attacked, and it will be the manner in which they respond to questions, challenges, and flat out accusations, that will determine how credible they become over time.

My advice will alwa
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Just to confirm for you FBR07-

Sting East '07 Harr has teams at CFBAL in both the gold and silver divisions. I manage the team. We have 14 girls on our team currently. The same 10 girls play in the gold division games week in and week out. The remaining 4 girls, plus 5 typically gold division girls play the silver division game each week. The 5 girls helping out in the silver division rotate each week. Unfortunately we have too many girls for one team and not quite enough for two. Hope this helps!

As a stat head and someone who does MLB salary arbitration work every year, I'm enjoying getting to know the nuances of FBR.  (BW has been generous with his time sharing info on the methodology.)

I think most will agree that it has its place as long as people don't blindly pray at the FBR alter like it's the only point of evaluation. The fact that someone feels the need to remain anonymous in order to publish the 07 rankings says a lot about the unhealthy amount of focus some place on them. IMO, as useful as it can be, FBR is simply a collection of data, but I don't believe it fully defines a team.

Play on!