Re: What if?

by Guest 15/05/15, 11:59 am

No doubt.

by soccersounder 15/05/15, 01:12 pm

OLJW wrote:PURE SPECULATION HERE. I think they must play the games that determine promotion and relegation. I think the games that don't affect promotion and relegation might not be played. There is also the question of final league standings, when the league didn't play all the games. They could simply take the points earned by each team and divide that by the games played, giving each team an average pts/game and rank them that way. That's not a perfect solution since some teams would have played more of the top teams than others, but other than playing all the games, I don't know how else they could have a final ranking.

Personally, I'd like to see every single game played. If it takes until June 30th to do that, so be it. I think deciding it on the field is far superior to resorting to an arithmetic solution. I'd make the promotion/relegation games the 1st priority and I'd make every single reasonable effort (including resorting to games played at High School turf fields) to play the full league schedule. If we get to June 30th and we still haven't gotten all the games in? Then we go with the arithmetic solution.

I agree on the promotion / relegation games in that they should receive some priority and maybe try and schedule them on turf fields. Not that they are more important than other games, but from a business perspective, they do have an affect on next soccer year....

Also, some have continued to mention Club Pass. at this point of the season, only 1 Club Pass Player per team, per game is allowed. Not trying to convince anyone, but just saying, one 1 at this point

by DT03GWhiteNPL 15/05/15, 02:37 pm

soccersounder wrote:
OLJW wrote:PURE SPECULATION HERE. I think they must play the games that determine promotion and relegation. I think the games that don't affect promotion and relegation might not be played. There is also the question of final league standings, when the league didn't play all the games. They could simply take the points earned by each team and divide that by the games played, giving each team an average pts/game and rank them that way. That's not a perfect solution since some teams would have played more of the top teams than others, but other than playing all the games, I don't know how else they could have a final ranking.

Personally, I'd like to see every single game played. If it takes until June 30th to do that, so be it. I think deciding it on the field is far superior to resorting to an arithmetic solution. I'd make the promotion/relegation games the 1st priority and I'd make every single reasonable effort (including resorting to games played at High School turf fields) to play the full league schedule. If we get to June 30th and we still haven't gotten all the games in? Then we go with the arithmetic solution.

I agree on the promotion / relegation games in that they should receive some priority and maybe try and schedule them on turf fields. Not that they are more important than other games, but from a business perspective, they do have an affect on next soccer year....

Also, some have continued to mention Club Pass. at this point of the season, only 1 Club Pass Player per team, per game is allowed. Not trying to convince anyone, but just saying, one 1 at this point

And I would hope that team managers are aware of that rule prior to making the request... I think in my earlier statement I said "could CPP a player" meaning singular - one player only... a CPP player could mean the difference between fielding a team or not...

by KnKsDad 15/05/15, 03:15 pm

Typically it is not the difference between fielding a team or not, although it always seems to be sold that way, however if we head towards mid-June I could see that being the case.

by SD69 15/05/15, 03:20 pm

Oh I hope it doesn't go that long. Aren't residential camps held in June? DD is already paid up to go to ODP camp and don't want to be left with making the choice to finish season (and forfeit money) or go to camp.

by KnKsDad 15/05/15, 03:35 pm

KnKsDad wrote:Typically it is not the difference between fielding a team or not, although it always seems to be sold that way, however if we head towards mid-June I could see that being the case.

Or maybe if they decided to reschedule league games to Memorial Day weekend..

by SWGSB 52 15/05/15, 03:44 pm

Don't forget that teams have to claim their LHGCL Byes by June 15th. So everyone would need to know if they have a Bye before June 15th, unless that deadline gets pushed back. That is 30 days from now with rain forecast every day on the current 10 day forecast. Also tournaments have fields booked on weekends and most teams will play local and travel tournaments in the coming weeks.

It looks like they took down all schedules that had already been set for next week too. So I'm guessing they are try to rearrange games based on Priority and I anticipate games that do have any bearing on pro/rel will be cancelled.

by SD69 15/05/15, 04:06 pm

A quick look at the remaining games left (32) and it seems that 15 games have a direct impact for D2 relegation and probably another 5-8 that could impact D3 relegation. U11 is worse case since they have so many teams. That's about 75% of the games having an impact on next year. Also most teams still have 3-4 games left on schedule. This doesn't count games that have an impact on Grand Champion. It'll be tricky for the scheduler to reduce the number much.

I think about half of D1 is heading down to Houston over Memorial day so that removes that weekend from the schedule for most teams. Not sure what other tournaments are scheduled the next couple of weekends.

Edit: Only four 04 teams are heading down to Houston, but still could have an impact.

by KnKsDad 15/05/15, 04:14 pm

Heading down to Houston to what, play each other? Now there's an idea, maybe they can just count those D1 teams games vs each other down there for those in which they haven't yet played each other in league play up here..

by SD69 15/05/15, 04:16 pm

KnKsDad wrote:Heading down to Houston to what, play each other? Now there's an idea, maybe they can just count those D1 teams games vs each other down there for those in which they haven't yet played each other in league play up here..

At least they'd get played Very Happy

by sota34 15/05/15, 05:57 pm

SD69 wrote:
KnKsDad wrote:Heading down to Houston to what, play each other? Now there's an idea, maybe they can just count those D1 teams games vs each other down there for those in which they haven't yet played each other in league play up here..
At least they'd get played

Don't be so sure. U14 and under was cancelled last year due to rain

by soccerpapa2 20/05/15, 09:03 am

Sorry if I missed it, but was it answered if we can play league into June? We have 3 games next week and rain in forecast. Thankfully our fate has been decided and has no impact on our relegation/promotion status, nor are we in hunt for grand champion. However, there are so many teams that still need to play these games to decide their future.
I heard rumors in the boys side (u14) that they only have until next week and after that they will do some sort of weighted average on points.

by Soccerboy 20/05/15, 09:48 am

Weighed average on points? Please elaborate

by SD69 20/05/15, 09:52 am

Posted this in the other thread:

There are still 32 D1 games left. Most of them either have an impact on D2 or D3 relegation. Just a few D3 games are left. In the interest of getting this rain soaked season out of the way, why not just play the games that have a bearing on the D1-D3 relegation, promote the top 2 D3 teams to D1, relegate the bottom 4 out of D3, and continue to use the 20 team supergroup next year. This should eliminate over half the games needed to be played (in U11).

I don't see how they will be able to get all the games in with Memorial day this weekend and tournaments (some out of town) next weekend using current fields. And then there is the chaos of June with players movement, camps already paid for, vacations, etc..

by KnKsDad 27/05/15, 03:34 pm

I like the idea of maintaining a 20 team supergroup for next year, lol, but I guess LH is intent on trying to get all games in, shucks. Big D1/2 impact game tonight between Owen and Stark. I predict CPP will have an influence on that outcome.

by Sweet_feet99 27/05/15, 04:03 pm

KnKsDad wrote:I like the idea of maintaining a 20 team supergroup for next year, lol, but I guess LH is intent on trying to get all games in, shucks. Big D1/2 impact game tonight between Owen and Stark. I predict CPP will have an influence on that outcome.

Luckily its the last few games, so I don't think there will be too many CPP tonight. If there is, no big deal. Let's just hope they get to play.

by Soccerboy 27/05/15, 06:41 pm

Three top D3 teams still battling for advancement. To end the season without playing final games or initiating some sort of point system.

by Sweet_feet99 28/05/15, 08:48 am

Soccerboy wrote:Three top D3 teams still battling for advancement. To end the season without playing final games or initiating some sort of point system.

Hopefully everyone gets a chance to finish the season. No matter what it looks like on paper, doesn't mean that's how it would get played out. Standings between today and Monday are night and day for D1. And there is still plenty of games to be played.

by KnKsDad 28/05/15, 10:56 am

Sweet_feet99 wrote:
KnKsDad wrote:I like the idea of maintaining a 20 team supergroup for next year, lol, but I guess LH is intent on trying to get all games in, shucks. Big D1/2 impact game tonight between Owen and Stark. I predict CPP will have an influence on that outcome.

Luckily its the last few games, so I don't think there will be too many CPP tonight. If there is, no big deal. Let's just hope they get to play.

I guess no CPP influence? The battle for that final D1 spot sure is getting interesting...looks like it's gonna take at least 30.

by SD69 28/05/15, 11:17 am

TXR played well with perseverance. Came back from a goal down. They get in now unless major upset in the works Twisted Evil

Sucks that Owen's best forward was on vacation, but they had their chances in this game and in others at the first part of the season. Starting to look like they'll be in D2 next year also with 29 Mad

by KnKsDad 28/05/15, 12:23 pm

SD69 wrote:TXR played well with perseverance. Came back from a goal down. They get in now unless major upset in the works
Sucks that Owen's best forward was on vacation, but they had their chances in this game and in others at the first part of the season. Starting to look like they'll be in D2 next year also with 29

29 might be enough but 30 would be better. Chacon still has to play Scott and Gut. Owen has tie-breaker over both Chacon and Gut.

by SD69 28/05/15, 12:50 pm

Gut is already in. Worried that Gut may not be highly motivated to beat Chacon since they already punched their ticket.

by SFFL5 28/05/15, 12:58 pm

Fields are showing closed for today. Question

by SD69 28/05/15, 01:04 pm

So ready for this season to be over

by ollyollyoxenfree 28/05/15, 01:35 pm

SFFL5 wrote:Fields are showing closed for today.

Did someone piss off Frisco ISD? That did not take long!

by Sweet_feet99 28/05/15, 01:36 pm

Inter club play is a bit of concern but out of our hands. I don't see Sting G giving up the game, but I could be wrong. And now the games are cancelled.

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