The Developmental Saboteur

Interested Article

http://goalnation.com/identifying-watching-developmental-saboteur/

Sounds like a perfect description of NTX soccer.

But what choices do the coaches and clubs really have with the way qualification and relegation is set up starting at U11?

Whats even funnier is I think one NTX club uses the below exert as their business plan...too funny.



Isolate their top player(s) from outside influences and information – keeping them away from other coaches, other environments, and other influences. This protects the naivety of these players and their parents – without other different information they are left with only one source of information, the wrong one.

Create in their young teams a fear of separation, a feeling that they must stay together because of their incredibly unique bond, or their special potential. These feelings are also used to isolate players and parents from conflicting information and different experiences so that they don’t even consider looking outside of this fake Shangri-La.

If your son or daughter is playing in one of these environments, recognize what is happening; their potential is being lost at the ages where it is most important that they learn the most. Their long-term futures are being destroyed for the short-term goals of the development saboteur.
- See more at: http://goalnation.com/identifying-watching-developmental-saboteur/#sthash.DyD8wMeP.dpuf

This quote was good too(but add in parking the bus, long grass, wind, etc etc.:

Have a litany of reasons for any loss, most of which are focused on outside factors – especially the referee. They use these excuses in an attempt to draw attention away from the real reasons for these losses – lack of development. These excuses become much more frequent over time – as earlier doormat opponents become more and more competitive, and previous big wins become close wins and eventually losses. - See more at: http://goalnation.com/identifying-watching-developmental-saboteur/#sthash.e5c2SNA0.dpuf

Wow.

I'd take it way more seriously if he wasn't president of Ecnl.

Are you PPP or 433?

soccerjack wrote:Whats even funnier is I think one NTX club uses the below exert as their business plan...too funny.



Isolate their top player(s) from outside influences and information – keeping them away from other coaches, other environments, and other influences. This protects the naivety of these players and their parents – without other different information they are left with only one source of information, the wrong one.

Create in their young teams a fear of separation, a feeling that they must stay together because of their incredibly unique bond, or their special potential. These feelings are also used to isolate players and parents from conflicting information and different experiences so that they don’t even consider looking outside of this fake Shangri-La.

If your son or daughter is playing in one of these environments, recognize what is happening; their potential is being lost at the ages where it is most important that they learn the most. Their long-term futures are being destroyed for the short-term goals of the development saboteur.
- See more at: http://goalnation.com/identifying-watching-developmental-saboteur/#sthash.DyD8wMeP.dpuf

If your coach tells you he has the ability to develop your daughter for a top team, but she is never "quite ready" - you have a problem

If your club has pool practice, but your coach doesn't want you to go - you have a problem

If your club has "pool practice" to "see if players should move up or down", and yet no one ever seems to move - you have a problem (and didn't your club have the opportunity to evaluate you for the last year?!? if not, what have they been doing?)

If your coach won't let your 9-year-old daughter play in a 3v3 tournament with friends on an off weekend - you have a problem

If your coach tells you that "the team will break apart if you leave" - you have a problem

If your coach refuses to let you guest with a better team in your club - you have a problem

If your club has "pool practice" every night the first week of June to keep tabs on you "assess talent" and "see if we should move players around" - you have a problem

SD69 wrote:Are you PPP or 433?

You down with PPP? (or 4-3-3)
You down with PPP? (or 4-3-3)
You down with PPP? (or 4-3-3)
Who's down with PPP? (It's 4-3-3)

(forgive me, it's a slow Friday afternoon...)

PurplePonyPower wrote:I'd take it way more seriously if he wasn't president of Ecnl.

There are a ton of quality coaches and clubs in ECNL. Did you catch he also coaches for Chicago Fire... now look at the ratio of players from NTX on the squads that matter as compared to say oh the rest of the country....

bwgophers wrote:

SD69 wrote:Are you PPP or 433?

You down with PPP? (or 4-3-3)
You down with PPP? (or 4-3-3)
You down with PPP? (or 4-3-3)
Who's down with PPP? (It's 4-3-3)

(forgive me, it's a slow Friday afternoon...)

This song is following me around this week. Must be a sign.

Soccerfan79 wrote:

PurplePonyPower wrote:I'd take it way more seriously if he wasn't president of Ecnl.

There are a ton of quality coaches and clubs in ECNL. Did you catch he also coaches for Chicago Fire... now look at the ratio of players from NTX on the squads that matter as compared to say oh the rest of the country....

ECNL is not viewed as that important in other parts of the country. Perhaps he needs to take a look at some of his own ECNL clubs and impart his knowledge to them. I am not saying he's wrong just that actions speak larger than words.

"ECNL is not viewed as that important in other parts of the country."

Debatable. It is certainly a big deal here in NTX and that's all that concerns me and my daughter.

Facts:

- 90% of ECNL's graduating class of 2015 have committed to college soccer
- 80% of these will play NCAA Division I
- Last year's NCAA Division I Final Four featured 66 players who played ECNL (that's more than 90% of the Final Four rosters)
- Last year's ECNL freshman class of alumni swept the awards for Freshman of the Year and accounted for 38 of the 55 total 2014 All-Freshman or All-Newcomer spots in the Power 5 Conferences (ACC, Big 10, Big 12, Pac-12, SEC).
- ECNL alumni claimed 11 different Player of the Year awards (O-POY, D-POY, MVP) and 118 All-Conference honors across the Power 5 Conference
- 18 of the current 21 roster of USWNT U20 team come from ECNL clubs

The numbers do not lie.

I'm sure your daughter is dreaming about ECNL.

No mention of 11v11 vs 9v9?

WisdomTeeth wrote:"ECNL is not viewed as that important in other parts of the country."

Debatable. It is certainly a big deal here in NTX and that's all that concerns me and my daughter.

Facts:

- 90% of ECNL's graduating class of 2015 have committed to college soccer
- 80% of these will play NCAA Division I
- Last year's NCAA Division I Final Four featured 66 players who played ECNL (that's more than 90% of the Final Four rosters)
- Last year's ECNL freshman class of alumni swept the awards for Freshman of the Year and accounted for 38 of the 55 total 2014 All-Freshman or All-Newcomer spots in the Power 5 Conferences (ACC, Big 10, Big 12, Pac-12, SEC).
- ECNL alumni claimed 11 different Player of the Year awards (O-POY, D-POY, MVP) and 118 All-Conference honors across the Power 5 Conference
- 18 of the current 21 roster of USWNT U20 team come from ECNL clubs

The numbers do not lie.

Keep that up WisdomTeeth and 4-3-3 and I may just be forced to grant you access to the Chamber of Imaginary Knowledge

(p.s. I think I may be developing a serious man crush... )

It is not about ECNL or not ECNL.  The type of soccer and style a player can, and is going to play is determined before ECNL even starts.

We rob our most promising girls with the size and athleticism to play at the highest levels down the road, with the focus on winning (relegation) and more importantly physical play at the younger ages.

They are not required to develop the skills, technical abilities and mental parts of the game at the younger ages that will limit them at the older ages when athleticism, size and aggression are no longer enough.

Lefty wrote:It is not about ECNL or not ECNL.  The type of soccer and style a player can, and is going to play is determined before ECNL even starts.

We rob our most promising girls with the size and athleticism to play at the highest levels down the road, with the focus on winning (relegation) and more importantly physical play at the younger ages.

They are not required to develop the skills, technical abilities and mental parts of the game at the younger ages that will limit them at the older ages when athleticism, size and aggression are no longer enough.

They're not required to develop the skills because the majority of coaches don't have the ability to coach a skilled team. Anything other than kicking the ball from the back is beyond their comfort zone.

db10 wrote:

Lefty wrote:It is not about ECNL or not ECNL.  The type of soccer and style a player can, and is going to play is determined before ECNL even starts.

We rob our most promising girls with the size and athleticism to play at the highest levels down the road, with the focus on winning (relegation) and more importantly physical play at the younger ages.

They are not required to develop the skills, technical abilities and mental parts of the game at the younger ages that will limit them at the older ages when athleticism, size and aggression are no longer enough.

They're not required to develop the skills because the majority of coaches don't have the ability to coach a skilled team.   Anything other than kicking the ball from the back is beyond their comfort zone.

Wouldn't disagree.  We were lucky enough that a couple of ours played for developmental coaches in their early years.  It was easy to tell, as when I asked our DD's about practice, they would tell me what they learned, and what the lesson or focus of practice was for that day.  The coaches were focused on teaching and frequently corrected techniques throughout practice, or stopped scrimmages to provide instruction.

The majority seem to want to spend most of the practice time on scrimmages with little to no intervention or instruction..

WisdomTeeth wrote:"ECNL is not viewed as that important in other parts of the country."

Debatable. It is certainly a big deal here in NTX and that's all that concerns me and my daughter.

Facts:

- 90% of ECNL's graduating class of 2015 have committed to college soccer
- 80% of these will play NCAA Division I
- Last year's NCAA Division I Final Four featured 66 players who played ECNL (that's more than 90% of the Final Four rosters)
- Last year's ECNL freshman class of alumni swept the awards for Freshman of the Year and accounted for 38 of the 55 total 2014 All-Freshman or All-Newcomer spots in the Power 5 Conferences (ACC, Big 10, Big 12, Pac-12, SEC).
- ECNL alumni claimed 11 different Player of the Year awards (O-POY, D-POY, MVP) and 118 All-Conference honors across the Power 5 Conference
- 18 of the current 21 roster of USWNT U20 team come from ECNL clubs

The numbers do not lie.

Just curious, since you have access to the statistics and so I don't have to go look it up, how many players in any of the categories above are from NTX ECNL clubs?

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