LH Meet the Ref

bwgophers wrote:Sounds to me like the guy running the meeting should've pulled a yellow card on those kids...  Oh, wait... Nevermind, this is LH, I don't think yellow is in their color wheel...

The times are changing! One of our girls got a yellow this morning! It was fairly weak as fouls go compared to some of the other ones I've seen go uncalled, but it was a correct call. Well officiated game, wish we had more of those.

time2win wrote:Keeper Commander, Futbolking. Socceritis - you guys just don’t get it and never will.  Your parenting styles obvious the one that let’s babies cry and cry at their table in a restaurant with no concern that you are ruining the dining experience for other patrons.  Have the kids having a breakdown in the store when they don’t get what they want.  The ones that are disruptive and loud in church with no consequences. Kids being kids. These kids grow up to be the obnoxious sports fan sitting in front of you at a game.  The person talking loudly in the movie theater.  Pull in the parking space you are already waiting for in the parking lot.  See the pattern – parents that show no respect for other people, breed kids that show no respect that become parents who show no respect.  Now to move on why is no one talking about the soccer games from the weekend.

I am glad you are still upset about this. Shows what type of parent you are.
That is the complete opposite of my "parenting style". I wouldn't allow my kid to act inappropriate. However I don't think that was happening here. Sounds to me like you are the one having a breakdown, I am the one telling you to calm down and relax. Live a little. Take off the floppy hat and lay in the sand, have a margarita and for Christ sake shut up.

Good win by Rush but it was very clear that most parents didn't show up for their ref meeting yesterday and those that did didn't pay attention. Holy Cow! At the end of the game almost all the parents were standing up screaming at the top of their lungs instructing their kids on how they should finish the game. This took coaching from the sidelines to a new level. I completely understand the excitement of the moment with a big win on the line but everyone within a half mile was looking over like they had lost their minds. One mother was almost standing on the field screaming out instructions. You will know which one she is when she doesn't have a voice at your next practice. Great win though. Congratulations!

Sable wrote:Good win by Rush but it was very clear that most parents didn't show up for their ref meeting yesterday and those that did didn't pay attention.  Holy Cow!  At the end of the game almost all the parents were standing up screaming at the top of their lungs instructing their kids on how they should finish the game.  This took coaching from the sidelines to a new level.  I completely understand the excitement of the moment with a big win on the line but everyone within a half mile was looking over like they had lost their minds.  One mother was almost standing on the field screaming out instructions.  You will know which one she is when she doesn't have a voice at your next practice.  Great win though.  Congratulations!

Congrats to Rush!!
They prob will need to calm down though Time2win will get mad at them for being disrespectful.

time2win wrote:Keeper Commander, Futbolking. Socceritis - you guys just don’t get it and never will.  Your parenting styles obvious the one that let’s babies cry and cry at their table in a restaurant with no concern that you are ruining the dining experience for other patrons.  Have the kids having a breakdown in the store when they don’t get what they want.  The ones that are disruptive and loud in church with no consequences. Kids being kids. These kids grow up to be the obnoxious sports fan sitting in front of you at a game.  The person talking loudly in the movie theater.  Pull in the parking space you are already waiting for in the parking lot.  See the pattern – parents that show no respect for other people, breed kids that show no respect that become parents who show no respect.  Now to move on why is no one talking about the soccer games from the weekend.

Amen. Best post of the year by a mile.

Agreed, best post of the year. Time2win's post sums it up well. Sounds like a few parents don't understand the consequences of raising entitled kids.

How about having a gym open and pay a couple college kids to check the soccer kids in and out.  No reason to have the kids in the room.

WisdomTeeth wrote:Agreed. It's really a matter of common decency and respect for others. Control your kids for goodness sake.

or just continue to let your kids control you.. Good luck with that.

time2win wrote:Keeper Commander, Futbolking. Socceritis - you guys just don’t get it and never will.  Your parenting styles obvious the one that let’s babies cry and cry at their table in a restaurant with no concern that you are ruining the dining experience for other patrons.  Have the kids having a breakdown in the store when they don’t get what they want.  The ones that are disruptive and loud in church with no consequences. Kids being kids. These kids grow up to be the obnoxious sports fan sitting in front of you at a game.  The person talking loudly in the movie theater.  Pull in the parking space you are already waiting for in the parking lot.  See the pattern – parents that show no respect for other people, breed kids that show no respect that become parents who show no respect.  Now to move on why is no one talking about the soccer games from the weekend.

Winning!

Since I wasn't at the meeting in question, I won't speak to what happened or how disrespectful or distracting the players in attendance may have been. I will agree that if you chose to attend and had your daughter with you when you did, you should both be completely present, as tough as that was at times, even for us adults.

I am curious about something, though. Why is this meeting mandatory? I know not everyone knows a great deal about the sport, and if, in fact, that is the case, such a meeting could be informative. If, on the other hand, you do know a lot about the sport, for whatever reason, it lacks that aspect. If it is simply to convey that officials are very difficult to find and keep, in no small part because parents make it an undesirable way to spend a weekend, then simply say, please, be positive, know we make mistakes and are trying very hard to minimize our impact on an outcome. To suggest that you have never seen an official impact an outcome is either disingenuous or naive. I literally choked when such a claim was made. To bring up that ten-year-old's, comparatively, make more mistakes or have a greater impact on the game is irrelevant, at best. We are not being forced to attend a meeting about the mistakes one fifth grade player can make that may or may not impact the outcome of a soccer game. While I do believe the central message, that we should all keep our comments, to players and officials alike, positive and supportive, is a good and worthy goal, I think such a message could have been conveyed more thoughtfully and certainly more efficiently.

banana kick wrote:Since I wasn't at the meeting in question, I won't speak to what happened or how disrespectful or distracting the players in attendance may have been.  I will agree that if you chose to attend and had your daughter with you when you did, you should both be completely present, as tough as that was at times, even for us adults.

I am curious about something, though.  Why is this meeting mandatory?  I know not everyone knows a great deal about the sport, and if, in fact, that is the case, such a meeting could be informative.  If, on the other hand, you do know a lot about the sport, for whatever reason, it lacks that aspect.  If it is simply to convey that officials are very difficult to find and keep, in no small part because parents make it an undesirable way to spend a weekend, then simply say, please, be positive, know we make mistakes and are trying very hard to minimize our impact on an outcome.  To suggest that you have never seen an official impact an outcome is either disingenuous or naive.  I literally choked when such a claim was made.  To bring up that ten-year-old's, comparatively, make more mistakes or have a greater impact on the game is irrelevant, at best.  We are not being forced to attend a meeting about the mistakes one fifth grade player can make that may or may not impact the outcome of a soccer game.  While I do believe the central message, that we should all keep our comments, to players and officials alike, positive and supportive, is a good and worthy goal, I think such a message could have been conveyed more thoughtfully and certainly more efficiently.

Winner!

When I watch a game, I, of course, notice when an offsides call was missed, at least from my point of view, and I may wonder why a handling call was or wasn't made, but, like most of you, my bigger concern is with safety, the stated first reason the officials are there.  I have seen more than a few officials recently whom seem unwilling to make a call that will keep the girls safe -- I think if done so early and purposefully, the flow of the game wouldn't be disrupted, the stated reason for perhaps not making such a call.

I encourage you to make that call early.  Do so, and you shouldn't have to make it over and over again.  In my honest opinion, the officiating in our first three games has been very good.

I look forward to a great first season.

SickofSilliness wrote:

banana kick wrote:Since I wasn't at the meeting in question, I won't speak to what happened or how disrespectful or distracting the players in attendance may have been.  I will agree that if you chose to attend and had your daughter with you when you did, you should both be completely present, as tough as that was at times, even for us adults.

I am curious about something, though.  Why is this meeting mandatory?  I know not everyone knows a great deal about the sport, and if, in fact, that is the case, such a meeting could be informative.  If, on the other hand, you do know a lot about the sport, for whatever reason, it lacks that aspect.  If it is simply to convey that officials are very difficult to find and keep, in no small part because parents make it an undesirable way to spend a weekend, then simply say, please, be positive, know we make mistakes and are trying very hard to minimize our impact on an outcome.  To suggest that you have never seen an official impact an outcome is either disingenuous or naive.  I literally choked when such a claim was made.  To bring up that ten-year-old's, comparatively, make more mistakes or have a greater impact on the game is irrelevant, at best.  We are not being forced to attend a meeting about the mistakes one fifth grade player can make that may or may not impact the outcome of a soccer game.  While I do believe the central message, that we should all keep our comments, to players and officials alike, positive and supportive, is a good and worthy goal, I think such a message could have been conveyed more thoughtfully and certainly more efficiently.

Winner!

I guess Sick is a ref, huh.

Ok- I'll try.

40+ parents with 40+ point of views (wasn't that the point of the meeting anyways); clearly you and the other super moms viewed the behavior as 'out of bounds' while others didn't.

A group of 9/10 year olds were so disruptive (described as a slumber party) that 30+ parents and instructors were afraid to stand up to them in an adult manner and politely ask them to remember their manners? Or did you say something ? Talk about letting kids run the show.

I totally witnessed adults with food and beverages in the meeting. The invitation clearly stated no food or drinks permitted. I immediately left the meeting and told everybody who would listen. Once I exhausted that avenue, I went online to complain about how nobody follows rules.
I am now calling out those parents, teams, and clubs. You like totally know who you are.

When is the make up meeting? I trust you will be going to get a better experience since all the noise and distractions ruined it for your team.

Is it possible that the kids had to use the restroom? I know I know- they probably went to the bathroom to smoke cigarettes......

Clearly I'm just having fun. Could/should parents be more responsible for their kids behavior when disruptive? Of course.
Should you be obligated to parent another parent's kid? Depends I guess on 100 variables.

Should the example be that the parent run off and immediately bash a group? Or, ask the presenter during the meeting to regain control of the slumber party?
I don't know.

I trust you are doing the best you can as are the majority of parents. True, some fall short or below your expectations.
If your kid has never acted out in public or did something that offended another, you should immediately drop and give thanks.

So unless you were there (and even if you were, you probably saw it differently than others)

NOLA_WhoDat? wrote:Ok- I'll try.

40+ parents with 40+ point of views (wasn't that the point of the meeting anyways); clearly you and the other super moms viewed the behavior as 'out of bounds' while others didn't.

A group of 9/10 year olds were so disruptive (described as a slumber party) that 30+ parents and instructors were afraid to stand up to them in an adult manner and politely ask them to remember their manners? Or did you say something ? Talk about letting kids run the show.

I totally witnessed adults with food and beverages in the meeting. The invitation clearly stated no food or drinks permitted. I immediately left the meeting and told everybody who would listen. Once I exhausted that avenue, I went online to complain about how nobody follows rules.
I am now calling out those parents, teams, and clubs. You like totally know who you are.

When is the make up meeting? I trust you will be going to get a better experience since all the noise and distractions ruined it for your team.

Is it possible that the kids had to use the restroom? I know I know- they probably went to the bathroom to smoke cigarettes......

Clearly I'm just having fun. Could/should parents be more responsible for their kids behavior when disruptive? Of course.
Should you be obligated to parent another parent's kid? Depends I guess on 100 variables.

Should the example be that the parent run off and immediately bash a group? Or, ask the presenter during the meeting to regain control of the slumber party?
I don't know.

I trust you are doing the best you can as are the majority of parents. True, some fall short or below your expectations.
If your kid has never acted out in public or did something that offended another, you should immediately drop and give thanks.

So unless you were there (and even if you were, you probably saw it differently than others)

I agree with about 98.4% of what you said, doesn't happen often, however don't get a big head. You lost 1.6% because I know you didn't run out of the meeting to say someone had a beverage.

Yep, it's very possible that the 5 or 6 girls sitting on the floor behind the back row of the classroom, talking, snickering, etc for half the meeting were planning their exit strategy to go to the bathroom. I'm sure it was all in the name of teamwork since they all had on the same color jersey.

I think what you witnessed was the most boring slumber party ever.

Have you ever attended or been inside (or outside) a home where a slumber party was happening? There's way more than talking and snickering (and the always vague "etc") going on.

Please explain how a group of talking, snickering (etc) 10 yr old girls having the most boring slumber party ever (and yes, who probably shop at Wal-Mart and go to Jaspers on Friday nights with crying infants) paralized a room full of super responsible parents (and kids).

Oh, that's right. You sat quietly. Why?

Surely a gentle request to the instructor would have brought the level of attention you were seeking, but for whatever reason didn't pursue. I'm presume you have your reasons and that's cool.
Perhaps the parents of the juvenile deliquents should pay closer attention to their child's behavor.
Perhaps a call or email to the coach or team manager would have been another adult way to handle this situation... just spitballing here.

Obviously I am attempting to use humor to point out what most may be thinking. It "seems" that your account may be a little dramatic...but is very real to you.

Welp, good luck to you and stuff.

Apologies that the use of an analogy (slumber party) threw you for such a loop. To answer your question though, I'm quite certain had I stood up in the room and called out your child, it would have been met with the same level of defiance/confusion. You didn't see anything wrong then and you certainly don't now. Not real sure what "most people are thinking" but I do know the parents to my right and left were equally annoyed.

Do with it what you want ma'am. Good luck to you and your team as well.

No apology needed. I saw your analogy and raised with sarcasm.

Clearly you don't like your opinion being challenged or confrontation; but yet you come online and throw the first stone; as for why, who knows. It was probably the right decision to sit there quietly with the eye rolling and head shaking (no idea if that last part is true but feels like that would accompany the judgemental thoughts).

You have a problem with the lack of parenting and respect shown in the meeting. If what you convey is accurate, then I agree. Kudos to you for keen sense of parenting.

I chose to challenge your comments simply because I have a problem with your choice of public airing your disapproval in a chicken $ attempt to shame when you had the opportunity to stand up for what is right in person (or directly with the offending party since you know who they are).
What a missed opportunity to show your child and all in attendance the right way to stand up for yourself and those you represent.

It's always right to do what is right.

My work here is done.

We all know how uncouth it is to correct someone else's child in front of their parents. It's like an unwritten rule that most of us are aware of which we try to abide by unless danger is involved. Therefore, I'm sure all that was trying to be accomplished here was to simply let the guilty parties in question be aware of how they were perceived so that next time maybe they could be on their better behavior, best might be asking for too much.

Wow! I cant say I have ever seen a more judgemental group of folks. Really? Judging on other people's parenting styles and a bunch of 10 years old little kids? People you know nothing about.  It's a good thing none of you so called "perfect" parents saw all the shenanigans of one of the so called "perfectly behaved" little group of 10 year olds that chose to remain in the hall during the meeting. With the flying shoes across the room, destruction of the furniture, cushions pulled off and thrown about. So be careful about throwing stones...
I think it's clearly been established the slumber party kids are brats, their parents are entitled losers so surely you people have something more exciting to talk about by now? There were some great upsets this past weekend!!

Haha! Exactly tatonkaburger.

Maybe the next meeting for that specific team can be held at McDonald's and the team mom can hire Barney to entertain their kids.
The team mom, parents, club and coach should be embarrassed.
Someone should call that team out and they should have to attend again with their coach present.

This thread is an excellent snapshot of our American culture.

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