Re: DA, ECNL, LH Solution

by KeeperCommander 19/05/17, 08:29 pm

Zizou wrote:No their is no sun involved.

Not what I was speaking of

by Zizou 19/05/17, 08:30 pm

Cheese burger, stay focused!

by KeeperCommander 19/05/17, 08:33 pm

Squirrel!

by PLAY2FEET!! 19/05/17, 08:45 pm

HomeStretch wrote:
Zizou wrote:Lol, you have it figured out then. These conversations that we are having a very similiar to when ECNL came online. LHGCL will be just as strong or better. Well, that's not the case now is it. Unfortunately I think college coaches are similiar to players and parents. They like the new shinny thing.

I remember when ECNL came online. None said LH would be as strong or better. Some claimed ECNL texas conference wouldnt be as competitive top to bottom as the PL structure ECNL replaced. I know in my kids age group the best team from OK, several of the better teams from STX and one of the top 3 in NTX were replaced by dfeeters and weaker ecnl teams from OK and STX. I think in hindsight with dallas teams except dfeeters dominating texas conf standings most every year...there is a case to be made that claim turned out to be mostly true.

Thought it was just me and my old age, but I never remember anyone making that claim either.

by Zizou 19/05/17, 08:48 pm

Kicks did!

by Zizou 19/05/17, 08:51 pm

But we now see that position change.

by Zizou 19/05/17, 08:59 pm

You need To bring in your closer 4-3-3

by KeeperCommander 19/05/17, 09:20 pm

Zizou wrote:Kicks did!

When ECNL came out were you skeptical or did you just jump on board and start swinging on the swing.

by Guest 19/05/17, 09:46 pm

Zizou wrote:You need To bring in your closer 4-3-3

He's already present and accounted for in this thread. Suspect

by HomeStretch 19/05/17, 09:52 pm

Zizou wrote:Kicks did!

No they didnt. Lol. In fact Id suggest like dfeeters, ECNL was great for kicks. It allowed their top team to be big dogs in USYS with pretty much smooth sailing to nationals every year. All they had to do was keep most their talent together, and they earned the same guaranteed eyeballs on their players. Its likely the kicks players have had far more exposure than mid pack ecnl teams, and had there been no ecnl, it wouldve been much harder for them to compete with the bigs and retain all their talent through the recruiting years. But it did rob the ecnl level ntx defenders from having to face probably the most potent forward in the age group, and no one can convince me said player wouldnt have already been on a national team had she been in ecnl. So did the whole thing make a better competitive environment for NTX?

by HomeStretch 19/05/17, 09:55 pm

bwgophers wrote:
Zizou wrote:You need To bring in your closer 4-3-3

He's already present and accounted for in this thread.

He had a great run, but he is retired. I'm headed where he went shortly...trust me.

by Guest 19/05/17, 09:57 pm

HomeStretch wrote:
bwgophers wrote:
Zizou wrote:You need To bring in your closer 4-3-3

He's already present and accounted for in this thread.

He had a great run, but he is retired. I'm headed where he went shortly...trust me.

August is coming up soon. Time to change formations...

by PLAY2FEET!! 19/05/17, 10:00 pm

Zizou wrote:Kicks did!

C'mon man you're losing any credibility you think you have on this board.
At some point, JM really hurt you didn't he? Razz

by newbiefornow 19/05/17, 10:17 pm

Still a Newbie for now. My sense is DA and ECNL are set. Let's all root for NTX teams in the ECNL Championship playoffs. One of us wins we all win.

Then buy tickets to DASH and FCD PWSL. Invest in women's sports any way you can because your daughters deserve it. The List is still the best way to excellence. It's just expensive but how much is excellence worth? If you want the List ask. My opinion is that any parent that invests in sport for their kid deserves praise. Take a bow. You deserve it.

by Zizou 20/05/17, 03:49 am

HomeStretch wrote:
Zizou wrote:Kicks did!

No they didnt. Lol. In fact Id suggest like dfeeters, ECNL was great for kicks. It allowed their top team to be big dogs in USYS with pretty much smooth sailing to nationals every year. All they had to do was keep most their talent together, and they earned the same guaranteed eyeballs on their players. Its likely the kicks players have had far more exposure than mid pack ecnl teams, and had there been no ecnl, it wouldve been much harder for them to compete with the bigs and retain all their talent through the recruiting years. But it did rob the ecnl level ntx defenders from having to face probably the most potent forward in the age group, and no one can convince me said player wouldnt have already been on a national team had she been in ecnl. So did the whole thing make a better competitive environment for NTX?

Ok, if it was so great then. Why now the change?

by Zizou 20/05/17, 03:56 am

SWINGIT!! wrote:
Zizou wrote:Kicks did!
C'mon man you're losing any credibility you think you have on this board.
At some point, JM really hurt you didn't he?

Sure, what he said. Have not played against his team in three years. Just making the point like LHGCL, to ECNL, to DA no need to completely dive in , but prepare yourself for the inevitable change again. Why the jump to ECNL now when you can have LHGCL in all its glory?

Oh yeah, by the way what makes you think i give a shit what you think?

by Zizou 20/05/17, 04:09 am

KeeperCommander wrote:
Zizou wrote:Kicks did!
When ECNL came out were you skeptical or did you just jump on board and start swinging on the swing.

DD has enjoyed her ECNL run from day one. No regrets and if given the opportunity to do it again we would be heading for the swings.

by Zizou 20/05/17, 04:11 am

HomeStretch wrote:
Zizou wrote:Kicks did!

No they didnt. Lol. In fact Id suggest like dfeeters, ECNL was great for kicks. It allowed their top team to be big dogs in USYS with pretty much smooth sailing to nationals every year. All they had to do was keep most their talent together, and they earned the same guaranteed eyeballs on their players. Its likely the kicks players have had far more exposure than mid pack ecnl teams, and had there been no ecnl, it wouldve been much harder for them to compete with the bigs and retain all their talent through the recruiting years. But it did rob the ecnl level ntx defenders from having to face probably the most potent forward in the age group, and no one can convince me said player wouldnt have already been on a national team had she been in ecnl. So did the whole thing make a better competitive environment for NTX?

Yes, a good forward.

by PLAY2FEET!! 20/05/17, 08:24 am

Zizou wrote:
SWINGIT!! wrote:
Zizou wrote:Kicks did!
C'mon man you're losing any credibility you think you have on this board.
At some point, JM really hurt you didn't he?

Sure, what he said. Have not played against his team in three years. But yet you can't resist from always mentioning or commenting on all things Kicks. Just making the point like LHGCL, to ECNL, to DA no need to completely dive in , but prepare yourself for the inevitable change again. Why the jump to ECNL now when you can have LHGCL in all its glory? Cuz now all the crazies have moved on to DA.

Oh yeah, by the way what makes you think i give a shit what you think? I didn't mean myself in particular. I recognized you as a hater not long after you started posting here years ago.

by Zizou 20/05/17, 09:14 am

You mean move to ECNL because all the top players are moving to DA. Great strategy! More of as home stretch would say zero competition within league play and a automatic bid into nationals.

"It allowed their top team to be big dogs in USYS with pretty much smooth sailing to nationals every year."

"it wouldve been much harder for them to compete with the bigs and retain all their talent through the recruiting years."

by Big Boy Bentley 20/05/17, 10:30 am

I keep seeing all the coach changes and teams moving around...I wonder when it's all said and don't who will be left standing at the end.....the carousel is still in movement.

by PLAY2FEET!! 20/05/17, 11:17 am

Zizou wrote:You mean move to ECNL because all the top players are moving to DA. Great strategy! More of as home stretch would say zero competition within league play and a automatic bid into nationals.

"It allowed their top team to be big dogs in USYS with pretty much smooth sailing to nationals every year."

"it wouldve been much harder for them to compete with the bigs and retain all their talent through the recruiting years."

All the top players? Doubtful. No more than ALL the top players moved to ECNL. Not all players doing DA are top players, and not all top players will play DA. But you know that already.
And I doubt JM strategizes with home stretch on the best path to Nationals. Not that that's how I read his post anyway. In fact, staying in USYS probably made it more difficult to retain players. Same for ECNL vs DA. Some players will choose DA, some ECNL. Some will be top players, some won't. Applies in either case.

by HomeStretch 20/05/17, 07:23 pm

SWINGIT!! wrote:
Zizou wrote:You mean move to ECNL because all the top players are moving to DA. Great strategy! More of as home stretch would say zero competition within league play and a automatic bid into nationals.

"It allowed their top team to be big dogs in USYS with pretty much smooth sailing to nationals every year."

"it wouldve been much harder for them to compete with the bigs and retain all their talent through the recruiting years."
All the top players? Doubtful. No more than ALL the top players moved to ECNL. Not all players doing DA are top players, and not all top players will play DA. But you know that already.
And I doubt JM strategizes with home stretch on the best path to Nationals. Not that that's how I read his post anyway. In fact, staying in USYS probably made it more difficult to retain players. Same for ECNL vs DA. Some players will choose DA, some ECNL. Some will be top players, some won't. Applies in either case.

You can best believe JM wouldn't strategize with me. I'm just a parent trying to help my kid achieve her goals through her own merit. JM decided to turn his uber parent involvement into an opportunistic soccer business. Different goals. JM was strategizing to get certain players into ecnl even before DA was officially announced. That implied to me that JM recognized the value of ECNL, and had made a business decision not to join initially, and probably made a business decision to join now given injuries, his younger teams, and the changes in the org landscape that DA brought.

But there is no "fact" it wouldve been easier to retain players in ecnl. If there is - do share. JM's top team had great retention up until u15, while his lower teams had incredible turnover every year. ECNL at u14 wouldve been a much higher level of local competition for his top team. The higher the level of competition, the more critical it becomes to let players fairly compete for spots and significantly improve the team every year. Its seems more likely to me if he had near perfect retention staying in usys, he wouldve had something less than that had he gone ecnl. All one needs do is look at ecnl rosters from u14 to u17...how many of them have 95% retention? Why would kicks have been any different?

by Big Boy Bentley 22/05/17, 06:21 am

Cry me a river

by Big Boy Bentely 22/05/17, 07:21 am

then I will post another moronic statement

by KeeperCommander 22/05/17, 08:14 am

Too late

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