Lake Highlands DII & DIII

soccerlove95 wrote:Ok this is what I can figure out but I am not certain
D2
Solar Red -Earned bye formerly FWUEG (moved up from D3 had own bye)
FCD Red - Earned Bye (moved up from D3)
Sting West regulated down to D2
Sting Royal remain in D2
ASG remain in D2
TXNS Red North Remain in D2
NTX Stricker Remain in D2
Solar Blue D3 took the original Solar Red bye into D2
Solar Royal had bye as TX Spirit
D3
OPEN BYE ( was not filled by solar since solar blue had this bye and took the old solar reds bye to D2)
Sting Royal remains finished 4th
TXNS White remains finished 5th
FWFC Regulated down from D2 to D3
Solar White Regulated down to D3 but disbaned and Hurst United Black went to solar and took this bye)
Polaris in due to QT
FC Dallas Blue in due to QT
Sting Silver in due to QT
TFC Blue in due to QT
How and why would a team that was regulated down be put back up? would it not go to the next team with the most team points? This is totally crazy. Does anyone know or is it going to be a waiting game until Wednesday night?

Does anyone know if FWFC moved up?
Or which two teams combined?
WOW what a circus. LH rule of 75% team keeping the bye or it stays with the club sure cause confusion this year with all the changes. Wonder if LH rules will change for next year due to this?
Didn't the other age groups with more than 4 spots to give out have playoff for the extra spot?

strikeforce wrote:

soccerlove95 wrote:Ok this is what I can figure out but I am not certain
D2
Solar Red -Earned bye formerly FWUEG (moved up from D3 had own bye)
FCD Red - Earned Bye (moved up from D3)
Sting West regulated down to D2
Sting Royal remain in D2
ASG remain in D2
TXNS Red North Remain in D2
NTX Stricker Remain in D2
Solar Blue D3 took the original Solar Red bye into D2
Solar Royal had bye as TX Spirit
D3
OPEN BYE ( was not filled by solar since solar blue had this bye and took the old solar reds bye to D2)
Sting Royal remains finished 4th
TXNS White remains finished 5th
FWFC Regulated down from D2 to D3
Solar White Regulated down to D3 but disbaned and Hurst United Black went to solar and took this bye)
Polaris in due to QT
FC Dallas Blue in due to QT
Sting Silver in due to QT
TFC Blue in due to QT
How and why would a team that was regulated down be put back up? would it not go to the next team with the most team points? This is totally crazy. Does anyone know or is it going to be a waiting game until Wednesday night?

Does anyone know if FWFC moved up?
Or which two teams combined?
WOW what a circus. LH rule of 75% team keeping the bye or it stays with the club sure cause confusion this year with all the changes. Wonder if LH rules will change for next year due to this?
Didn't the other age groups with more than 4 spots to give out have playoff for the extra spot?

FWFC moved up yes, Why??? Dunno yet.

I am a bit surprised no one has found the gotsoccer link to the team list yet. I would, but I have no clue how its done.

JeffM wrote:I am a bit surprised no one has found the gotsoccer link to the team list yet. I would, but I have no clue how its done.

This is as far as the site lets you go.

http://www.gotsport.com/rankings/event.aspx?EventID=11320

Ok this is a huge mess but where in the bye laws does it say what happens if there is a open spot in a division that needs to be filled? Have all the coaches and managers been informed of this because I am sure several teams would like to challange for it and would'nt that be the fair and honest way vs. doing it under the table like it seems to be happening?

The QT was the vehicle to the league, so there were only so many "good teams" out there trying to make the league. Top in each group (4) moved in. Whether 1 or 4 teams folded, the teams should come in order out of the QT...
In this case if the team that gets in the 5th open spot get in they could make the case for being the 2nd best in the QT...
This seems the challenge was had, and another is not necessary...

D2
Solar Red -Earned bye formerly FWUEG (moved up from D3 had OWN bye won D3 last year but ONLY took the Solar Red name )
FCD Red - Earned Bye (moved up from D3)
Sting West moved down to D2
Sting Royal remain in D2
ASG remain in D2
TXNS Red North Remain in D2
NTX Stricker Remain in D2
Solar Blue D3 took the ORIGINAL Solar Red bye into D2
Solar Royal had bye as TX Spirit

Ok guys of the above teams WHO combined teams to make a spot in D2 for FWFC to move back up to D2?

soccerlove95 wrote:D2
Solar Red -Earned bye formerly FWUEG (moved up from D3 had OWN bye won D3 last year but ONLY took the Solar Red name )
FCD Red - Earned Bye (moved up from D3)
Sting West moved down to D2
Sting Royal remain in D2
ASG remain in D2
TXNS Red North Remain in D2
NTX Stricker Remain in D2
Solar Blue D3 took the ORIGINAL Solar Red bye into D2
Solar Royal had bye as TX Spirit

Ok guys of the above teams WHO combined teams to make a spot in D2 for FWFC to move back up to D2?

Wild guess: Solar Royal and Blue.

Rediculously wild guess: Sting West and Royal

Sadly to say No & No due to contacts with those teams. So now what I think is someone at LH has not done the research and they have no clue. The meeting tonight should be interesting.

justfurkicks wrote:

soccerlove95 wrote:D2
Solar Red -Earned bye formerly FWUEG (moved up from D3 had OWN bye won D3 last year but ONLY took the Solar Red name )
FCD Red - Earned Bye (moved up from D3)
Sting West moved down to D2
Sting Royal remain in D2
ASG remain in D2
TXNS Red North Remain in D2
NTX Stricker Remain in D2
Solar Blue D3 took the ORIGINAL Solar Red bye into D2
Solar Royal had bye as TX Spirit

Ok guys of the above teams WHO combined teams to make a spot in D2 for FWFC to move back up to D2?

Wild guess: Solar Royal and Blue.

Rediculously wild guess: Sting West and Royal

Yes agreed both clubs have both teams filled to the brim, that will not be the missing link. !! We will see tonight!!??!!

Well?? Anything come about tonight?

jmh23 wrote:Well?? Anything come about tonight?

The 98 age group on here is talking about going to 10 teams starting next year. Is that for this age group as well?

I heard it was for this age too...

At this point somebody has to know the next step etc??? Who left DII for FWFC to move up? Did it leave another opening in DIII??? Once we have those answers we can kill this thread and play on!!!!!!!!!! Who knows the scoop?

As soon as schedules are posted, supposedly by today, we will know anyway..... I did hear they are "working" on it.....

Pitchmon wrote:At this point somebody has to know the next step etc??? Who left DII for FWFC to move up? Did it leave another opening in DIII??? Once we have those answers we can kill this thread and play on!!!!!!!!!! Who knows the scoop?

I was thinking that simply by going to 10 teams in both D2 and D3 enabled FWFC to move to D2 and then gives 2 opennings in D2. Sting West Blue gets one and Andro gets the other.

However my guesses have not been acurate as of late.
Time indeed will tell.

justfurkicks wrote:

Pitchmon wrote:At this point somebody has to know the next step etc??? Who left DII for FWFC to move up? Did it leave another opening in DIII??? Once we have those answers we can kill this thread and play on!!!!!!!!!! Who knows the scoop?

I was thinking that simply by going to 10 teams in both D2 and D3 enabled FWFC to move to D2 and then gives 2 opennings in D2. Sting West Blue gets one and Andro gets the other.

However my guesses have not been acurate as of late.
Time indeed will tell.

No sorry that is not it....Solar definately gave up the old Blue DIII bye and Sting West Blue got it. I heard from an Andro parent earlier this week and they received no phone call as of then, however the math still doesn't work as you said we will see when schedules come out.

Hmmmm.... it's Saturday

Groups and schedules are posted.....

shakey wrote:Groups and schedules are posted.....

Looks like Solar Blue was put back into DIII and FWFC was promoted into DII to answer the how did it happen question. Now the question is WHY did it happen? Could it be a punishment to Solar for bluffing the DIII spot until after QT? Dunno but nobody is talking and it is a great rumor to start, unless someone can tell us all what did happen? LOL

My guess is they took the Solar Red bye from the club and let Solar Blue keep their own bye that they earned. Which is how it should be- afterall they were 5th in DIII.

Looking at the end of the year placings and the teams that switched clubs it seems that Solar Red did not register correctly under the LH rules by putting formerly FWUEG and in return Solar Blue is going to take the hit for it since they finished 3 last season in D3 and the NEW Solar Red finished 1. But it still does not add up to WHY FWFC gets to remain in D2 when they should be in D3. Who knows the real reason why this is all happening and where in all the LH rules does it state who can move up when a team does not follow the rules in registering a team?

soccerlove95 wrote:Looking at the end of the year placings and the teams that switched clubs it seems that Solar Red did not register correctly under the LH rules by putting formerly FWUEG and in return Solar Blue is going to take the hit for it since they finished 3 last season in D3 and the NEW Solar Red finished 1. But it still does not add up to WHY FWFC gets to remain in D2 when they should be in D3. Who knows the real reason why this is all happening and where in all the LH rules does it state who can move up when a team does not follow the rules in registering a team?

I wouldn't say it was a case of the of FWU not following the rule. They simply chose to take Solar Red's bye rather than carry their bye with them. This way they are able to carry the history and ranking of the old Solar Red team. Solar owned both bye's based on the rule (and assuming that FWU had the 75% player limit) After determining how many teams they had, they may simply have decided to forfeit the FWU bye.

tacklenow wrote:

soccerlove95 wrote:Looking at the end of the year placings and the teams that switched clubs it seems that Solar Red did not register correctly under the LH rules by putting formerly FWUEG and in return Solar Blue is going to take the hit for it since they finished 3 last season in D3 and the NEW Solar Red finished 1. But it still does not add up to WHY FWFC gets to remain in D2 when they should be in D3. Who knows the real reason why this is all happening and where in all the LH rules does it state who can move up when a team does not follow the rules in registering a team?

I wouldn't say it was a case of the of FWU not following the rule. They simply chose to take Solar Red's bye rather than carry their bye with them. This way they are able to carry the history and ranking of the old Solar Red team. Solar owned both bye's based on the rule (and assuming that FWU had the 75% player limit) After determining how many teams they had, they may simply have decided to forfeit the FWU bye.

FWUEG did nothing wrong they went to Solar by taking 75% of their players AND their bye to DII and at first were called Solar Gold. Then when Red did not make, they became Red, just a color change. Then Solar used the DII Solar Red bye (because FWUEG had their own bye) to bring Solar Blue up from DIII. So Solar Blue's DIII bye has been open, since well let's say tryouts. Solar obviously payed the fee saying they had a returning team. They didn't produce a team, so that is when the last minute shifts occured. The only explanation is that LHGCL did not like the fact that Solar payed the fee and didn't produce a team, so they took away the Solar DII bye, pushing Blue back to it's own earned DIII bye and promoted the only remaining DII relegated team FWFC. Last year's Solar White did not make, and Hurst United took that slot by brining 75% of their girls to Solar, and had no bye.
So as the rules are now, the CLUB keeps the BYE and must produce a team a la FWFC did this year, or give it to someone like Hurst United was given a Solar Bye, again by bringing 75%+ of their girls with them, so they could switch clubs like FWUEG did.
After our U12 season the rules changed to those stated above. Before that to stay in your division, you had to keep what was called N+1. That meant more than 50% of your team. So if you had a 14 girls roster the previous season you had to come back with 8 or you went back to QT if you elected to do that or fold, or play elsewhere.
THAT IS THE WAY IT SHOULD BE IN MY OPINION, SO TEAMS STICKING TOGETHER MOVE UP TOGETHER AND CLUBS CAN'T CONTROL IT.
Hope this helps, the facts stated are true, but we still do not know the official reason for the switch, please keep that in mind. (lawyer talk)

Pitchmon wrote:

tacklenow wrote:

soccerlove95 wrote:Looking at the end of the year placings and the teams that switched clubs it seems that Solar Red did not register correctly under the LH rules by putting formerly FWUEG and in return Solar Blue is going to take the hit for it since they finished 3 last season in D3 and the NEW Solar Red finished 1. But it still does not add up to WHY FWFC gets to remain in D2 when they should be in D3. Who knows the real reason why this is all happening and where in all the LH rules does it state who can move up when a team does not follow the rules in registering a team?

I wouldn't say it was a case of the of FWU not following the rule. They simply chose to take Solar Red's bye rather than carry their bye with them. This way they are able to carry the history and ranking of the old Solar Red team. Solar owned both bye's based on the rule (and assuming that FWU had the 75% player limit) After determining how many teams they had, they may simply have decided to forfeit the FWU bye.

FWUEG did nothing wrong they went to Solar by taking 75% of their players AND their bye to DII and at first were called Solar Gold. Then when Red did not make, they became Red, just a color change. Then Solar used the DII Solar Red bye (because FWUEG had their own bye) to bring Solar Blue up from DIII. So Solar Blue's DIII bye has been open, since well let's say tryouts. Solar obviously payed the fee saying they had a returning team. They didn't produce a team, so that is when the last minute shifts occured. The only explanation is that LHGCL did not like the fact that Solar payed the fee and didn't produce a team, so they took away the Solar DII bye, pushing Blue back to it's own earned DIII bye and promoted the only remaining DII relegated team FWFC. Last year's Solar White did not make, and Hurst United took that slot by brining 75% of their girls to Solar, and had no bye.
So as the rules are now, the CLUB keeps the BYE and must produce a team a la FWFC did this year, or give it to someone like Hurst United was given a Solar Bye, again by bringing 75%+ of their girls with them, so they could switch clubs like FWUEG did.
After our U12 season the rules changed to those stated above. Before that to stay in your division, you had to keep what was called N+1. That meant more than 50% of your team. So if you had a 14 girls roster the previous season you had to come back with 8 or you went back to QT if you elected to do that or fold, or play elsewhere.
THAT IS THE WAY IT SHOULD BE IN MY OPINION, SO TEAMS STICKING TOGETHER MOVE UP TOGETHER AND CLUBS CAN'T CONTROL IT.
Hope this helps, the facts stated are true, but we still do not know the official reason for the switch, please keep that in mind. (lawyer talk)

If what you say is true the only people LH is hurting is the players.
FWFC has 3 at the most returning players from last year. I know they picked up a lot of new players from Arlington from the bottom ranking teams. This season just may show how Arlington Division players compare to LH Division players, especially if the team does well. I hope they do well for the players and division sake. Otherwise FWFC players will be deflated, and the teams that play them won't be challenged. I agree they should have kept the N+1, playing is suppose to be about the players not the CLUBS.

Just a thought.
I took a few seconds and looked around at the other age groups schedules and almost all the other age groups have at least the 1st weeks schedules posted for all 3 divisions. Yet in the 95's they only have D1 posted?

Could it be that this issue is not yet settled?