USYSA National League

Where are next year's accepted teams posted?

http://www.usyouthsoccer.org/news/story.asp?story_id=5654

Under-16 Girls
Team and State Association	Region	Hometown
Chantilly Firecats (VA)	Region I	Chantilly, Va.
Patriots FC 95 (E-NY)	Region I	Bronxville, N.Y.
Penn Fusion 94 (E-PA)	Region I	West Chester, Pa.
VSA Heat Blue (VA)	Region I	Haymarket, Va.
Blast (OH-S)	Region II	Columbus, Ohio
Cleveland FC (OH-N)	Region II	Cleveland, Ohio
Eclipse Select 94-95 (IL)	Region II	Libertyville, Ill.
JB Marine Wipke (MO)	Region II	St. Louis, Mo.
Sockers FC Chicago (IL)	Region II	Palatine, Ill.
# Dallas Texans 95 Red (N-TX)	Region III	Dallas, Texas
# Hurricane FC 95 Shubert (OK)	Region III	Broken Arrow, Okla.
Brandon FC Flames-Blue (FL)	Region III	Brandon, Fla.
GSA 95 Phoenix Red (GA)	Region III	Lilburn, Ga.
# So Cal Blues - Draluck (CA-S)	Region IV	San Juan Capistrano, Calif.
Albion SC (CA-S)	Region IV	San Diego, Calif.
Legends Breakaway (CA-S)	Region IV	Newport Beach, Calif.

I thought Eclipse was a big ECNL backer? Nice to see Breakaway joining.

So did Eclipse pull out, drop out, or what. Any info?

Don't have any information but it does look like their tournament isnt on the tournament list for 2010-2011 season. Who knows maybe one of their other teams wasn't on board and the club has to provide a team in each of the age divisions.

Wow! That was the first thing that jumped out at me too. Score one for USYSA. ECNL takes their first big hit. Will there be more?

So they're sending a U16 team to both NL and ECNL?

Hmmm, I hadn't thought about that angle. I don't know if they have more than one team in the U16 age group. I just thought that either one of the U15-U17 teams didnt want to do it and maybe they just decided to bail as a club. I would imagine it will become more clear sooner or later. It is a good team to lose but with the pick ups made it doesnt hurt the ECNL's competitive edge.

Eclipse Select still has an ECNL section on their website and they're still listed on ECNL's website as a member club. According to the Eclipse Select website they have two U16 teams.

Gunners wrote:Eclipse Select still has an ECNL section on their website and they're still listed on ECNL's website as a member club. According to the Eclipse Select website they have two U16 teams.

Am I naive to think that SURELY those rosters are set for both teams and there wont be any inter-changing between them??? Or am I being an idiot for even bringing this up?

Sorry....its just the first thing that came to my mind....why wouldnt they put together their best team to send to each out of both. Sorry for being skeptical....but I have seen all types of things.....lions laying with lambs, cats playing with dogs, horses wearin people clothes, etc.

The one listed on the National League webpage is Eclipse Select 94-95. The other is referred to as Eclipse Select South 94-95.

BigBoy wrote:

Gunners wrote:Eclipse Select still has an ECNL section on their website and they're still listed on ECNL's website as a member club. According to the Eclipse Select website they have two U16 teams.

Am I naive to think that SURELY those rosters are set for both teams and there wont be any inter-changing between them??? Or am I being an idiot for even bringing this up?

Sorry....its just the first thing that came to my mind....why wouldnt they put together their best team to send to each out of both. Sorry for being skeptical....but I have seen all types of things.....lions laying with lambs, cats playing with dogs, horses wearin people clothes, etc.

ECNL membership is a "Club" membership, not just a specific team. If Eclipse wanted, they could pull kids off of different teams (from within the club) and use them at an ECNL event....and at a different event, a different mix of kids. There are some roster limitations but they seem to be pretty liberal. What doesn't make sense to me is Eclipse having a team in both ECNL and Natl League....especially since they seem to have common venues for their events. I also can't imagine that ECNL would be cool with duplicate enrollment. (Unc's post came up while I was typing this...it makes more sense if it's 2 separate teams)

I heard that ECNL was paying Eclipse for their support at the start of the league. Could it be that ECNL decided not to pay them any more? I don't see any other Eclipse girl's teams at the other age brackets, though. The Eclipse boys are well represented.

socrocks wrote:

BigBoy wrote:

Gunners wrote:Eclipse Select still has an ECNL section on their website and they're still listed on ECNL's website as a member club. According to the Eclipse Select website they have two U16 teams.

Am I naive to think that SURELY those rosters are set for both teams and there wont be any inter-changing between them??? Or am I being an idiot for even bringing this up?

Sorry....its just the first thing that came to my mind....why wouldnt they put together their best team to send to each out of both. Sorry for being skeptical....but I have seen all types of things.....lions laying with lambs, cats playing with dogs, horses wearin people clothes, etc.

ECNL membership is a "Club" membership, not just a specific team. If Eclipse wanted, they could pull kids off of different teams (from within the club) and use them at an ECNL event....and at a different event, a different mix of kids. There are some roster limitations but they seem to be pretty liberal. What doesn't make sense to me is Eclipse having a team in both ECNL and Natl League....especially since they seem to have common venues for their events. I also can't imagine that ECNL would be cool with duplicate enrollment. (Unc's post came up while I was typing this...it makes more sense if it's 2 separate teams)

you know what...I think I have heard that before with the whole FC Dallas thingy with NTXU and Rev jumping in, and them creating an ECNL team, etc, etc, yada, yada....I think I dreamt that or something to that effect, once upon a hallucination.

socrocks wrote:

ECNL membership is a "Club" membership, not just a specific team. If Eclipse wanted, they could pull kids off of different teams (from within the club) and use them at an ECNL event....and at a different event, a different mix of kids. There are some roster limitations but they seem to be pretty liberal. What doesn't make sense to me is Eclipse having a team in both ECNL and Natl League....especially since they seem to have common venues for their events. I also can't imagine that ECNL would be cool with duplicate enrollment. (Unc's post came up while I was typing this...it makes more sense if it's 2 separate teams)

Would they even have to be on the club? As I understand, it is simply rostered players at the beginning of the ECNL Season. Couldn't you make an all-star team from many different clubs and register as the D'Feeter's?

Yes, at least it was possible last year to include two "guests." For example, Arsenal had a guest from FL (who wasn't registered with an ECNL team and plays for RIII ODP) play for them in the final four games. It is my understanding that this issue was going to be re-visited.

Now there's a thought! Where do we begin?
Truthfully, I think you're right Unc. You can roster up to 26 (but only suit up 18) and I don't think there's anything to prohibit clubs from taking kids from another club (assuming Releases are granted). There are also some funky provisions for adding players along the way. I looked at the rules....but if it takes more than 30 seconds for me to grasp them, I change the channel.

Uncle Numanga wrote:

socrocks wrote:

ECNL membership is a "Club" membership, not just a specific team. If Eclipse wanted, they could pull kids off of different teams (from within the club) and use them at an ECNL event....and at a different event, a different mix of kids. There are some roster limitations but they seem to be pretty liberal. What doesn't make sense to me is Eclipse having a team in both ECNL and Natl League....especially since they seem to have common venues for their events. I also can't imagine that ECNL would be cool with duplicate enrollment. (Unc's post came up while I was typing this...it makes more sense if it's 2 separate teams)

Would they even have to be on the club? As I understand, it is simply rostered players at the beginning of the ECNL Season. Couldn't you make an all-star team from many different clubs and register as the D'Feeter's?

An all star team? I believe the new faces at ECNL nationals on the D'Feeter 95 team were players that they actually signed for the upcoming season. They were just lucky to have them come out early enough to make the roster for the July Nationals. I dont think there was any intent to stack the team for the National tournament.

Guru I think you misunderstood Unc's post...

Gunner,
How have you been?
I'm sure Guru misunderstood Unc.

I know he misunderstood my post.

"You'll have to excuse my friend. He's a little slow."
Can you name the flick? (no Googling allowed!)

socrocks wrote:"You'll have to excuse my friend. He's a little slow."
Can you name the flick? (no Googling allowed!)

"The town is back THAT way."

Gunners wrote:Guru I think you misunderstood Unc's post...

Your right. I did, my bad.
I guess I will crawl back in my hole since I dont wnat to oil up any Hawaiian Tropic models~

I think Eclipse Select is going to have a team in the ECNL & National League this year. The Eclipse Select team that played in ECNL last year will be there again this year.