VEGAS CUP

Keepermom05 wrote:Just curious, how did Solar FDL land in the 4th division? I would have expected an FDL team to be in 1 or 2.

Keepermom05 wrote:I would have expected them to be in one of the higher divisions because they are an FDL team. The claim by some people is that FDL teams are basically equal to ECNL teams. Not trying to slam them or anything-genuinely curious. I doubt that the 4th division was much of a challenge for them.

Big Ern wrote:

Keepermom05 wrote:I would have expected them to be in one of the higher divisions because they are an FDL team. The claim by some people is that FDL teams are basically equal to ECNL teams. Not trying to slam them or anything-genuinely curious. I doubt that the 4th division was much of a challenge for them.

This particular FDL team may very well be stronger than U14 Solar ECNL side this year.  That being said ... All of the 'Silver Elite' divisions (black/white/red/whatevs) were described as generally equal and one level under Gold by VC -- Just had too many teams request that division.

I'd bet those guys wish they had gone with Gold considering the teams that ended up in that final.

05DD wrote:

Big Ern wrote:

Keepermom05 wrote:I would have expected them to be in one of the higher divisions because they are an FDL team. The claim by some people is that FDL teams are basically equal to ECNL teams. Not trying to slam them or anything-genuinely curious. I doubt that the 4th division was much of a challenge for them.

This particular FDL team may very well be stronger than U14 Solar ECNL side this year.  That being said ... All of the 'Silver Elite' divisions (black/white/red/whatevs) were described as generally equal and one level under Gold by VC -- Just had too many teams request that division.

I'd bet those guys wish they had gone with Gold considering the teams that ended up in that final.

So are they stronger than U14 FCD ECNL as well?
They played in the division that they wanted and that best fit their level. Save the spin.

Keepermom05 wrote:I would have expected them to be in one of the higher divisions because they are an FDL team. The claim by some people is that FDL teams are basically equal to ECNL teams. Not trying to slam them or anything-genuinely curious. I doubt that the 4th division was much of a challenge for them.

Foxysoccermom wrote:

Keepermom05 wrote:I would have expected them to be in one of the higher divisions because they are an FDL team. The claim by some people is that FDL teams are basically equal to ECNL teams. Not trying to slam them or anything-genuinely curious. I doubt that the 4th division was much of a challenge for them.

FDL was created by the clubs to extract money from parents that want to say their dd is a cut above the rest or can't find a decent lh team. It hasn't been well managed i.e.  Jdl and some of those teams would have a hard time competing in lh d2 or d3. Solar fdl 05 might be better than the others but for the most part it's a money grab.  Bige was big on the now defunct and grossly mismanaged jdl also.  Follow the money...that's where bige usually is. Most parents would prefer the clubs quit trying to disperse the talent for monetary gain and rebuild lh.

Big Ern wrote:

Foxysoccermom wrote:

Keepermom05 wrote:I would have expected them to be in one of the higher divisions because they are an FDL team. The claim by some people is that FDL teams are basically equal to ECNL teams. Not trying to slam them or anything-genuinely curious. I doubt that the 4th division was much of a challenge for them.

FDL was created by the clubs to extract money from parents that want to say their dd is a cut above the rest or can't find a decent lh team. It hasn't been well managed i.e.  Jdl and some of those teams would have a hard time competing in lh d2 or d3. Solar fdl 05 might be better than the others but for the most part it's a money grab.  Bige was big on the now defunct and grossly mismanaged jdl also.  Follow the money...that's where bige usually is. Most parents would prefer the clubs quit trying to disperse the talent for monetary gain and rebuild lh.

Foxydaddy at his best ... Right on par .  The absence of of knowledge is dumbfounding isn't it?  (no pun intended)

"FDL was created by the clubs" ... False -- It's a USYS conception as an addition to it's already successful National League.

"clubs to extract money", "for the most part it's a money grab" ... The clubs make the exact same from the parents of kids in LHGCL silly.

Exactly what evidence do you have to support your claim that after just a few months of existence, "It (FPDL) hasn't been well managed"? ... Don't you all just love it when outsider folks (like foxer here) with next to zero knowledge of a product (USSDA, FPDL, etc) are so quick to defame it just to comfort themselves?  Good stuff!

To clarify foxydaddy, since you plainly are in need of education, the majority of parents of kids on FPDL teams didn't choose to move them onto one ... Most are whole (or primary core) teams that came into the FPDL this year from LHGL (or equivalent) last year.  And what'd'ya know ... Just by happenstance   , a bunch of those kids will end up getting fantastic experience training against the GDA kids + more exposure to college scouting at matches and regional events.

And to top it all off ... Where in this thread was I "big" on FDL again?  All I did was simply mention that all of the U14 Silver Elite divisions in VC were the same level and that GA's team was purty good.

Sooo ... anyway ... Keep on keepin' on foxer!

Big Ern wrote:

Foxysoccermom wrote:

Keepermom05 wrote:I would have expected them to be in one of the higher divisions because they are an FDL team. The claim by some people is that FDL teams are basically equal to ECNL teams. Not trying to slam them or anything-genuinely curious. I doubt that the 4th division was much of a challenge for them.

FDL was created by the clubs to extract money from parents that want to say their dd is a cut above the rest or can't find a decent lh team. It hasn't been well managed i.e.  Jdl and some of those teams would have a hard time competing in lh d2 or d3. Solar fdl 05 might be better than the others but for the most part it's a money grab.  Bige was big on the now defunct and grossly mismanaged jdl also.  Follow the money...that's where bige usually is. Most parents would prefer the clubs quit trying to disperse the talent for monetary gain and rebuild lh.

Foxydaddy at his best ... Right on par .  The absence of of knowledge is dumbfounding isn't it?  (no pun intended)

-knowing better and playing along is really more dumbfounding....remember jdl bige?   stupid is as stupid does

"FDL was created by the clubs" ... False -- It's a USYS conception as an addition to it's already successful National League.

-Sorry...I left out usys and their fingers in the pot of money and control. Are they the reason for the decline of us soccer?  Or the lack of international competitiveness. I can't keep track.

"clubs to extract money", "for the most part it's a money grab" ... The clubs make the exact same from the parents of kids in LHGCL silly.

-Correct only now with no accountability and worse management than lh at a much higher cost than lh.  

Exactly what evidence do you have to support your claim that after just a few months of existence, "It (FPDL) hasn't been well managed"? ... Don't you all just love it when outsider folks (like foxer here) with next to zero knowledge of a product (USSDA, FPDL, etc) are so quick to defame it just to comfort themselves?  Good stuff!

-actually the real reason I defrock it, is to get a rise out of you...mission accomplished on that front. You're right though...no reason to doubt it after the great success of jdl and the scheduling prowess of the new  Fdl....and yes bige all it's done is dilute ntx talent. Some of the teams are good some are not.


To clarify foxydaddy, since you plainly are in need of education, the majority of parents of kids on FPDL teams didn't choose to move them onto one ... Most are whole (or primary core) teams that came into the FPDL this year from LHGL (or equivalent) last year.  And what'd'ya know ... Just by happenstance   , a bunch of those kids will end up getting fantastic experience training against the GDA kids + more exposure to college scouting at matches and regional events.

-You sure about that?  Might get exposure to a strong wind from a blowhard. Don't know about any of the rest.

And to top it all off ... Where in this thread was I "big" on FDL again?  All I did was simply mention that all of the U14 Silver Elite divisions in VC were the same level and that GA's team was purty good.

-you've just been on fdl...talkin silliness. You're welcome....you know you love to talk about it.

Sooo ... anyway ... Keep on keepin' on foxer!

NotNewHere wrote:

Big Ern wrote:

Foxysoccermom wrote:

Keepermom05 wrote:I would have expected them to be in one of the higher divisions because they are an FDL team. The claim by some people is that FDL teams are basically equal to ECNL teams. Not trying to slam them or anything-genuinely curious. I doubt that the 4th division was much of a challenge for them.

FDL was created by the clubs to extract money from parents that want to say their dd is a cut above the rest or can't find a decent lh team. It hasn't been well managed i.e.  Jdl and some of those teams would have a hard time competing in lh d2 or d3. Solar fdl 05 might be better than the others but for the most part it's a money grab.  Bige was big on the now defunct and grossly mismanaged jdl also.  Follow the money...that's where bige usually is. Most parents would prefer the clubs quit trying to disperse the talent for monetary gain and rebuild lh.

Foxydaddy at his best ... Right on par .  The absence of of knowledge is dumbfounding isn't it?  (no pun intended)

"FDL was created by the clubs" ... False -- It's a USYS conception as an addition to it's already successful National League.

"clubs to extract money", "for the most part it's a money grab" ... The clubs make the exact same from the parents of kids in LHGCL silly.

Exactly what evidence do you have to support your claim that after just a few months of existence, "It (FPDL) hasn't been well managed"? ... Don't you all just love it when outsider folks (like foxer here) with next to zero knowledge of a product (USSDA, FPDL, etc) are so quick to defame it just to comfort themselves?  Good stuff!

To clarify foxydaddy, since you plainly are in need of education, the majority of parents of kids on FPDL teams didn't choose to move them onto one ... Most are whole (or primary core) teams that came into the FPDL this year from LHGL (or equivalent) last year.  And what'd'ya know ... Just by happenstance   , a bunch of those kids will end up getting fantastic experience training against the GDA kids + more exposure to college scouting at matches and regional events.

And to top it all off ... Where in this thread was I "big" on FDL again?  All I did was simply mention that all of the U14 Silver Elite divisions in VC were the same level and that GA's team was purty good.

Sooo ... anyway ... Keep on keepin' on foxer!

Foxy said JDL not FDL - with all the different leagues I know it can be difficult


FDL season 1 impressions here:

https://www.txsoccer.net/t41854-fdl-season-1-impressions


As for "a bunch of those kids will end up getting fantastic experience training against the GDA kids" - FDL parents at 2 of the 3 NTx clubs I know (mulitple teams at each club) have said their kids don't practice with GDA kids.  Maybe other FDL teams within those clubs are doing it differently, maybe not.

and "more exposure to college scouting at matches" - while that may have been the plan, college coaches are not showing up for FDL matches when FDL refuses to schedule their games at similar times / locations as GDA (as was advertised).

and what "regional" FDL events have occurred (or any regional event where the FDL status drew coaches who would not have otherwise attended)?

AngelinaGoalee wrote:It’s been a long time hasn’t it?

918soccer wrote:Isn’t U14 Solar FDL in 5th place out of 6 in USYS Frontier Player Development League? If that’s the same team that played in the Vegas Cup, their record wouldn’t suggest they are as good as U14 Solar ECNL.

BrianWilliams wrote:Just in:

BigErn has been hanging out at Comet Ping Pong with one of his old soccer coaching buddies.