The REAL difference between DA and ECNL

Countless and tireless debates have transpired about the superiority of DA vs. the  ECNL path.   I believe there is one tangible tell all stat that has identified the state of the union NOW as well as where it is all headed.   I realize everyone has different goals in the beautiful game but if one desires to play college ball please make note of the following.  Earlier this month (April 2019) ECNL hosted a showcase for the girls side in Phoenix, conversely DA hosted a showcase in Denver just a few weeks later.    The number of colleges/recruiters represented are as follows.  Please go to respective websites to verify and validate to view the full list.  

ECNL:  147 Colleges

DA:  403 Colleges

I am sure the ECNL coaches will say something like the college recruiters like the gummy bears in CO.

I’m not saying that one is better then the other. Think it depends on the path your child wants to take but ECNL hosts 6 showcases to the DA’s 2. Teams can pick 3 out of the 6. The Arizona event in the spring isn’t as well attended but if you look at the Florida and upcoming NJ showcase, you will see a ton of schools. I’m not sure you made a fair comparison

PLAYERONE wrote:Countless and tireless debates have transpired about the superiority of DA vs. the  ECNL path.   I believe there is one tangible tell all stat that has identified the state of the union NOW as well as where it is all headed.   I realize everyone has different goals in the beautiful game but if one desires to play college ball please make note of the following.  Earlier this month (April 2019) ECNL hosted a showcase for the girls side in Phoenix, conversely DA hosted a showcase in Denver just a few weeks later.    The number of colleges/recruiters represented are as follows.  Please go to respective websites to verify and validate to view the full list.  

ECNL:  147 Colleges

DA:  403 Colleges

I am sure the ECNL coaches will say something like the college recruiters like the gummy bears in CO.

Point taken on the (6) ECNL events but....... the NJ event only has 130ish teams which is less than PHX.  So...... second verse same as the first

The quality of the colleges attending the NJ event are meeehhhhh it starts with:   Agnes College, American International College, Assumption College, Babson College, Binghamton University,  Bloomsburg College of Pennsylvania, etc  

PLAYERONE wrote:Point taken on the (6) ECNL events but....... the NJ event only has 130ish teams which is less than PHX.  So...... second verse same as the first

The quality of the colleges attending the NJ event are meeehhhhh it starts with:   Agnes College, American International College, Assumption College, Babson College, Binghamton University,  Bloomsburg College of Pennsylvania, etc  

Did BigErn change his stage name? ^^^^

Foxysoccermom wrote:

PLAYERONE wrote:Point taken on the (6) ECNL events but....... the NJ event only has 130ish teams which is less than PHX.  So...... second verse same as the first

The quality of the colleges attending the NJ event are meeehhhhh it starts with:   Agnes College, American International College, Assumption College, Babson College, Binghamton University,  Bloomsburg College of Pennsylvania, etc  

Did BigErn change his stage name?  ^^^^

Or is P1 just BigE's Press Secretary?

Debates can last forever

No Big E or Big Ern here. Even if it was doesn't change stats or facts.

Trying to S-P-E-L-L-I-T-O-U-T for all of the peeps in NTX.

We'll have a case study for the appeal of ECNL, DA, and FDL soon with FC Dallas losing their ECNL status at the end of this season.  Are those girls going to stay and play FDL next year, go try and shore up Texans DA, or look to stay in ECNL and catch on with Feet, Solar, or Sting?

Do you think FCD even cares? Yes they will play FDL. Texans shouldn't have DA status. And no FCD players will not be going to Feet or Sting (logistics, and considered a demotion).

Are you new?, and WTH does this have to do with this thread?

Truthiness wrote:We'll have a case study for the appeal of ECNL, DA, and FDL soon with FC Dallas losing their ECNL status at the end of this season.  Are those girls going to stay and play FDL next year, go try and shore up Texans DA, or look to stay in ECNL and catch on with Feet, Solar, or Sting?

Is this just rumor popping up again or is it actual noninternet news?

RIP Lil Peep wrote:

Truthiness wrote:We'll have a case study for the appeal of ECNL, DA, and FDL soon with FC Dallas losing their ECNL status at the end of this season.  Are those girls going to stay and play FDL next year, go try and shore up Texans DA, or look to stay in ECNL and catch on with Feet, Solar, or Sting?

Is this just rumor popping up again or is it actual noninternet news?  

I suppose it's both.  Given the league position of the FCD teams and the criteria that was set forth for any club to be able to play in both ECNL and DA, the only path left for FCD to keep both is to have a team win an ECNL national championship this year.   That looks very unlikely to happen. When it doesn't happen, FCD will have to choose between FCD and ECNL, and the assumption is they'll choose the DA.  I suppose there's a small chance they'll choose ECNL (which would likely involve a backroom deal for two ECNL teams in each age group in return for dropping DA), but most people seem to think that's unlikely.

PLAYERONE wrote:Do you think FCD even cares?   Yes they will play FDL.  Texans shouldn't have DA status. And no FCD players will not be going to Feet or Sting (logistics, and considered a demotion).  

Are you new?, and WTH does this have to do with this thread?  

Yes, I think FCD cares.  And I think the ECNL players at FCD care. And if you are right and the ECNL team is just going to  become the FDL team then I assume the current FDL players care, too.

What leads you to say that Feet or Sting ECNL is a demotion for a FCD ECNL player?  Just looking at the standings, in most age groups it wouldn't appear to be that way.  We're talking about FCD's ECNL players, not their DA players.

I'm about as new as you are, and this thread is about DA and ECNL and I thought it was relevant and odd that nobody is talking about it.  It seems significant to me.

Don’t know about GDA but many coaches don’t register for ECNL national events. 03 TSC Averaged more than 50 coaches per game in Florida but only 150ish coaches registered for the entire event.

This comparison has been discussed on the Southern California forum and the posters who attended both claim they are about the same.

918soccer wrote:Don’t know about GDA but many coaches don’t register for ECNL national events. 03 TSC Averaged more than 50 coaches per game in Florida but only 150ish coaches registered for the entire event.

This comparison has been discussed on the Southern California forum and the posters who attended both claim they are about the same.

On the Oklahoma board you claimed there were 700 college coaches in Florida.

Knuckleball wrote:

918soccer wrote:Don’t know about GDA but many coaches don’t register for ECNL national events. 03 TSC Averaged more than 50 coaches per game in Florida but only 150ish coaches registered for the entire event.

This comparison has been discussed on the Southern California forum and the posters who attended both claim they are about the same.

On the Oklahoma board you claimed there were 700 college coaches in Florida.

Oklahoma has a board?

DeltaTauChi wrote:

Knuckleball wrote:

918soccer wrote:Don’t know about GDA but many coaches don’t register for ECNL national events. 03 TSC Averaged more than 50 coaches per game in Florida but only 150ish coaches registered for the entire event.

This comparison has been discussed on the Southern California forum and the posters who attended both claim they are about the same.

On the Oklahoma board you claimed there were 700 college coaches in Florida.

Oklahoma has a board?

www.oklahomaselectsoccer.com
Really just a lot of DA vs ECNL & Energy vs TSC

So if what Truth is stating is FACT, why is FCD and Solar advertising for ECNL tryouts? With some starting as early as today. No DD in this particular scrum, but sounds like this going to have a ripple effect through out the higher level of Girls NTX Soccer.

Truthiness wrote:We'll have a case study for the appeal of ECNL, DA, and FDL soon with FC Dallas losing their ECNL status at the end of this season.  Are those girls going to stay and play FDL next year, go try and shore up Texans DA, or look to stay in ECNL and catch on with Feet, Solar, or Sting?

I would imagine that those players/parents do what any player/parent with any common sense does most every year.

. Decide what you want out of your soccer experience over the next couple of years
. Take a realistic look at your options
. Determine which option(s) provide the best opportunity to meet your soccer wants over the next year or two
. See which one you can make work out

Depends on what the player wants out of soccer.

Best choice may be sitting the bench on a nationally ranked team with a great coach, for others it may be being a full time starter on a lesser team.

Could be that being the best player on a bad team but playing with friends is the choice, or being a part time player on a good team with friends.

If you just want to play soccer in college at any school you may make a different choice than someone who has to have soccer $ to go to college vs someone who only wants to play on a college team with national relevance vs someone who wants to play the highest level soccer they can while in high school, but is taking academic $ route in college.

All depends what the particular person wants.

TX Turf Burn wrote:So if what Truth is stating is FACT,  why is FCD and Solar advertising for ECNL tryouts?  With some starting as early as today.  No DD in this particular scrum, but sounds like this going to have a ripple effect through out the higher level of Girls NTX Soccer.  

Solar is more likely than not to meet the requirements and keep both ECNL and DA. As for tryouts, FCD has to build teams and prepare for next season. They won't drop out of any league voluntarily, and won't be forced to choose by ECNL until they officially don't qualify to keep both, which obviously can't happen until after the season concludes. There really is no other option for now other than to prepare for having all of DA, ECNL, and FDL. It's a tough spot to be in.
I assume there will be a lot more official clarity in the next month or so.

TX Turf Burn wrote:So if what Truth is stating is FACT,  why is FCD and Solar advertising for ECNL tryouts?  With some starting as early as today.  No DD in this particular scrum, but sounds like this going to have a ripple effect through out the higher level of Girls NTX Soccer.  

Were you expecting FC Dallas to be completely open and honest with you?



Why don't you head on over to FCD ECNL tryouts and ask one of the coaches about the information posted here.  I'm sure you will get the full and complete story.  

SickofStupidity wrote:

TX Turf Burn wrote:So if what Truth is stating is FACT,  why is FCD and Solar advertising for ECNL tryouts?  With some starting as early as today.  No DD in this particular scrum, but sounds like this going to have a ripple effect through out the higher level of Girls NTX Soccer.  

Were you expecting FC Dallas to be completely open and honest with you?



Why don't you head on over to FCD ECNL tryouts and ask one of the coaches about the information posted here.  I'm sure you will get the full and complete story.  

Same old tired story from you. You must be an absolute pleasure to be around.

Blues Fan wrote:

SickofStupidity wrote:

TX Turf Burn wrote:So if what Truth is stating is FACT,  why is FCD and Solar advertising for ECNL tryouts?  With some starting as early as today.  No DD in this particular scrum, but sounds like this going to have a ripple effect through out the higher level of Girls NTX Soccer.  

Were you expecting FC Dallas to be completely open and honest with you?



Why don't you head on over to FCD ECNL tryouts and ask one of the coaches about the information posted here.  I'm sure you will get the full and complete story.  

Same old tired story from you. You must be an absolute pleasure to be around.

You may find it tiring . . . and yet, doesn't mean it's not true.

SickofStupidity wrote:

Blues Fan wrote:

SickofStupidity wrote:

TX Turf Burn wrote:So if what Truth is stating is FACT,  why is FCD and Solar advertising for ECNL tryouts?  With some starting as early as today.  No DD in this particular scrum, but sounds like this going to have a ripple effect through out the higher level of Girls NTX Soccer.  

Were you expecting FC Dallas to be completely open and honest with you?



Why don't you head on over to FCD ECNL tryouts and ask one of the coaches about the information posted here.  I'm sure you will get the full and complete story.  

Same old tired story from you. You must be an absolute pleasure to be around.

You may find it tiring . . . and yet, doesn't mean it's not true.

You have no idea what you are talking about! FCD addressed this more than a month ago at the parent's meeting. I invite you to come out to a practice and ask the DOC about the information above and you can get your answer from him. Let me know if you want the dates, times and field locations. But we all know that won't happen because then you would have to stop hiding behind that keyboard that empowers you. I would love to put a face to that positive and sweet disposition you have.

Blues Fan wrote:

SickofStupidity wrote:

Blues Fan wrote:

SickofStupidity wrote:

TX Turf Burn wrote:So if what Truth is stating is FACT,  why is FCD and Solar advertising for ECNL tryouts?  With some starting as early as today.  No DD in this particular scrum, but sounds like this going to have a ripple effect through out the higher level of Girls NTX Soccer.  

Were you expecting FC Dallas to be completely open and honest with you?



Why don't you head on over to FCD ECNL tryouts and ask one of the coaches about the information posted here.  I'm sure you will get the full and complete story.  

Same old tired story from you. You must be an absolute pleasure to be around.

You may find it tiring . . . and yet, doesn't mean it's not true.

You have no idea what you are talking about! FCD addressed this more than a month ago at the parent's meeting. I invite you to come out to a practice and ask the DOC about the information above and you can get your answer from him. Let me know if you want the dates, times and field locations. But we all know that won't happen because then you would have to stop hiding behind that keyboard that empowers you. I would love to put a face to that positive and sweet disposition you have.

FCD held a meeting with all club parents to address this issue?  

And yet no one here had mentioned this issue or this so-called "parent's meeting" from more than a month ago?

So why don't you share how FCD is "selling" the potential loss of ECNL?

I know more than a few FCD parents who have no idea what "parent's meeting" you are talking about where this was shared, nor do they have any idea on how FCD plans on handling the issue.  Their invitation to the club-wide meeting must have been lost in the mail.    

Since this is all public information, why don't you share the plans?

Knuckleball wrote:

918soccer wrote:Don’t know about GDA but many coaches don’t register for ECNL national events. 03 TSC Averaged more than 50 coaches per game in Florida but only 150ish coaches registered for the entire event.

This comparison has been discussed on the Southern California forum and the posters who attended both claim they are about the same.

On the Oklahoma board you claimed there were 700 college coaches in Florida.

918 seems to think he knows more than everyone on that OK board.