'02 FBR Rankings - Week 6

For those interested:

Rowdies '02 - Currently would be #3 in FBR, but based on limited data (2 games against '02's). Rowdies would currently rank #15 in '01 FBR.

SRSA '03 - #7
DT South '03 - #11
Juve Black '03 - #20
D'Feeters '03 - #21
Odyssey '03 - #41
Solar White '03 - #65
Liverpool Callaghan '03 - #70

So these 02 teams playing 03 teams your counting wins and losses towards your 02 FBR rankingss but 02 teams playin in 01 div your only counting their 02 wins in losses. Waco Lady Blast? played 6 games but 3 were against 03 teams?

1v1 phenom wrote:So these 02 teams playing 03 teams your counting wins and losses towards your 02 FBR rankingss but 02 teams playin in 01 div your only counting their 02 wins in losses. Waco Lady Blast? played 6 games but 3 were against 03 teams?

Have to catch a plane this morning. Will explain why later. I'm not being prejudicial here, there is a legitimate reason why.

Didnt Dynamo beat Stav 3-1? Has Stav played Glotz?

03dad wrote:Didnt Dynamo beat Stav 3-1? Has Stav played Glotz?

I believe Glotz beat Stavou the first game this year...I'll check my records for the score!

03dad wrote:Didnt Dynamo beat Stav 3-1? Has Stav played Glotz?

Yes, Glotz beat them 2-0.... and Dynamo has beaten Stavou 2 times this season! I think what keeps Stavou up so high is their win over Webb! Plus Dynamo has lost a couple of games against weaker teams...like SRSA 03 and TFC Elite!

Thanks BW.

RoidRage wrote:

03dad wrote:Didnt Dynamo beat Stav 3-1? Has Stav played Glotz?

Yes, Glotz beat them 2-0.... and Dynamo has beaten Stavou 2 times this season! I think what keeps Stavou up so high is their win over Webb! Plus Dynamo has lost a couple of games against weaker teams...like SRSA 03 and TFC Elite!

Weaker, Really?

turftoe9 wrote:

RoidRage wrote:

03dad wrote:Didnt Dynamo beat Stav 3-1? Has Stav played Glotz?

Yes, Glotz beat them 2-0.... and Dynamo has beaten Stavou 2 times this season! I think what keeps Stavou up so high is their win over Webb! Plus Dynamo has lost a couple of games against weaker teams...like SRSA 03 and TFC Elite!

Weaker, Really?

TT....don't get ur panies in a wad! I knew as soon as I typed that one of you guys would comment. You know what I ment....let me rephrase...not weaker but lower ranked!

Maybe in your opinion DT South 03 or Feet 03 isn't weaker than SRSA 03....just lower ranked! It's the same deferance really.....

RoidRage wrote:

turftoe9 wrote:

RoidRage wrote:

03dad wrote:Didnt Dynamo beat Stav 3-1? Has Stav played Glotz?

Yes, Glotz beat them 2-0.... and Dynamo has beaten Stavou 2 times this season! I think what keeps Stavou up so high is their win over Webb! Plus Dynamo has lost a couple of games against weaker teams...like SRSA 03 and TFC Elite!

Weaker, Really?

TT....don't get ur panies in a wad! I knew as soon as I typed that one of you guys would comment. You know what I ment....let me rephrase...not weaker but lower ranked!

Maybe in your opinion DT South 03 or Feet 03 isn't weaker than SRSA 03....just lower ranked! It's the same deferance really.....

No paties in a wad, since I don't wear any. I just wanted to see your response, I would not rank our DD's any higher than 8th, but do appreciate the work you've put into this.

turftoe9 wrote:

RoidRage wrote:

turftoe9 wrote:

RoidRage wrote:

03dad wrote:Didnt Dynamo beat Stav 3-1? Has Stav played Glotz?

Yes, Glotz beat them 2-0.... and Dynamo has beaten Stavou 2 times this season! I think what keeps Stavou up so high is their win over Webb! Plus Dynamo has lost a couple of games against weaker teams...like SRSA 03 and TFC Elite!

Weaker, Really?

TT....don't get ur panies in a wad! I knew as soon as I typed that one of you guys would comment. You know what I ment....let me rephrase...not weaker but lower ranked!

Maybe in your opinion DT South 03 or Feet 03 isn't weaker than SRSA 03....just lower ranked! It's the same deferance really.....

No paties in a wad, since I don't wear any. I just wanted to see your response, I would not rank our DD's any higher than 8th, but do appreciate the work you've put into this.

Commando huh!

RoidRage wrote:

turftoe9 wrote:

RoidRage wrote:

turftoe9 wrote:

RoidRage wrote:

03dad wrote:Didnt Dynamo beat Stav 3-1? Has Stav played Glotz?

Yes, Glotz beat them 2-0.... and Dynamo has beaten Stavou 2 times this season! I think what keeps Stavou up so high is their win over Webb! Plus Dynamo has lost a couple of games against weaker teams...like SRSA 03 and TFC Elite!

Weaker, Really?

TT....don't get ur panies in a wad! I knew as soon as I typed that one of you guys would comment. You know what I ment....let me rephrase...not weaker but lower ranked!

Maybe in your opinion DT South 03 or Feet 03 isn't weaker than SRSA 03....just lower ranked! It's the same deferance really.....

No paties in a wad, since I don't wear any. I just wanted to see your response, I would not rank our DD's any higher than 8th, but do appreciate the work you've put into this.

Commando huh!

I think I just threw up in my mouth!!

I knew I seen the top of some t-backs!

jj4mel wrote:

RoidRage wrote:

turftoe9 wrote:

RoidRage wrote:

turftoe9 wrote:

RoidRage wrote:

03dad wrote:Didnt Dynamo beat Stav 3-1? Has Stav played Glotz?

Yes, Glotz beat them 2-0.... and Dynamo has beaten Stavou 2 times this season! I think what keeps Stavou up so high is their win over Webb! Plus Dynamo has lost a couple of games against weaker teams...like SRSA 03 and TFC Elite!

Weaker, Really?

TT....don't get ur panies in a wad! I knew as soon as I typed that one of you guys would comment. You know what I ment....let me rephrase...not weaker but lower ranked!

Maybe in your opinion DT South 03 or Feet 03 isn't weaker than SRSA 03....just lower ranked! It's the same deferance really.....

No paties in a wad, since I don't wear any. I just wanted to see your response, I would not rank our DD's any higher than 8th, but do appreciate the work you've put into this.

Commando huh!

I think I just threw up in my mouth!!

What other way would you want me to go? By the way JJ you know how I roll!!!

hey, since I see all you 03 SRSA people on this thread. I wanted to throw out a question. I'm doing my rankings and I am having a difficult time throwing you guys in the mix because I have never seen you play age pure.

I AM NOT saying this to belittle how good some of your players are and the high quality soccer that you are capable of playing, but I think it is a legit question. Like, when you beat DT South 11v11 in primetime. Were you playing with all 03's.......were they?

It just seems strange because Kat has two top 03 teams so you obviously have enough players to pass around and play age pure. You guys are great, so why not stick to the SDL rules and play age pure?

AP Pollster wrote:hey, since I see all you 03 SRSA people on this thread. I wanted to throw out a question. I'm doing my rankings and I am having a difficult time throwing you guys in the mix because I have never seen you play age pure.

I AM NOT saying this to belittle how good some of your players are and the high quality soccer that you are capable of playing, but I think it is a legit question. Like, when you beat DT South 11v11 in primetime. Were you playing with all 03's.......were they?

It just seems strange because Kat has two top 03 teams so you obviously have enough players to pass around and play age pure. You guys are great, so why not stick to the SDL rules and play age pure?

When '03 SRSA and DT South '03 played, they both played age pure. Kat's Solar Red team is her development team. They are competing well in '03, but may not be prepared for '02 D1.

'03 SRSA has used an '02 goalie and a defender in the past while we play D1 '02s. Kat & Derek agree it is for the better development of our girls just like Derek has done in the past with his D1 girls that are in select now. I am not 100% sure how SDL looks at this. As per SDL rules we should also only be playing D2 not D1. However, we know how that went last season.

Most games we play age pure. We will always play age pure against any other '03 team.

jj4mel wrote:

AP Pollster wrote:hey, since I see all you 03 SRSA people on this thread. I wanted to throw out a question. I'm doing my rankings and I am having a difficult time throwing you guys in the mix because I have never seen you play age pure.

I AM NOT saying this to belittle how good some of your players are and the high quality soccer that you are capable of playing, but I think it is a legit question. Like, when you beat DT South 11v11 in primetime. Were you playing with all 03's.......were they?

It just seems strange because Kat has two top 03 teams so you obviously have enough players to pass around and play age pure. You guys are great, so why not stick to the SDL rules and play age pure?

When '03 SRSA and DT South '03 played, they both played age pure. Kat's Solar Red team is her development team. They are competing well in '03, but may not be prepared for '02 D1.

'03 SRSA has used an '02 goalie and a defender in the past while we play D1 '02s. Kat & Derek agree it is for the better development of our girls just like Derek has done in the past with his D1 girls that are in select now. I am not 100% sure how SDL looks at this. As per SDL rules we should also only be playing D2 not D1. However, we know how that went last season.

Most games we play age pure. We will always play age pure against any other '03 team.

I have seen games in SDL where the keeper and two top 02 defensive players from Kat's team stay on the field the entire game(maybe, get a few minutes break). In 9v9 that's 33% of the team. It seems that some are underestimating how big of a difference that can make in a game. Like when 02 rowdies use some 01's to help them out when they play up.

I'm sure Derek knows what he is doing since he was successful in the past with the 00's.

I have seen it too...and they are used in more than just SDL games. They are used in PrimeTime games as well.

AP Pollster wrote:

jj4mel wrote:

AP Pollster wrote:hey, since I see all you 03 SRSA people on this thread. I wanted to throw out a question. I'm doing my rankings and I am having a difficult time throwing you guys in the mix because I have never seen you play age pure.

I AM NOT saying this to belittle how good some of your players are and the high quality soccer that you are capable of playing, but I think it is a legit question. Like, when you beat DT South 11v11 in primetime. Were you playing with all 03's.......were they?

It just seems strange because Kat has two top 03 teams so you obviously have enough players to pass around and play age pure. You guys are great, so why not stick to the SDL rules and play age pure?

When '03 SRSA and DT South '03 played, they both played age pure. Kat's Solar Red team is her development team. They are competing well in '03, but may not be prepared for '02 D1.

'03 SRSA has used an '02 goalie and a defender in the past while we play D1 '02s. Kat & Derek agree it is for the better development of our girls just like Derek has done in the past with his D1 girls that are in select now. I am not 100% sure how SDL looks at this. As per SDL rules we should also only be playing D2 not D1. However, we know how that went last season.

Most games we play age pure. We will always play age pure against any other '03 team.

I have seen games in SDL where the keeper and two top 02 defensive players from Kat's team stay on the field the entire game(maybe, get a few minutes break). In 9v9 that's 33% of the team. It seems that some are underestimating how big of a difference that can make in a game. Like when 02 rowdies use some 01's to help them out when they play up.

I'm sure Derek knows what he is doing since he was successful in the past with the 00's.

Well..... Then you know as much as I do. You are more than welcome to leave us off any rankings. Our team is more about development rather than rankings. I am personally proud of what our team is doing in D1 and 11v11 even with the assistance of 1-2 '02s on occasion.

jj4mel wrote:

AP Pollster wrote:

jj4mel wrote:

AP Pollster wrote:hey, since I see all you 03 SRSA people on this thread. I wanted to throw out a question. I'm doing my rankings and I am having a difficult time throwing you guys in the mix because I have never seen you play age pure.

I AM NOT saying this to belittle how good some of your players are and the high quality soccer that you are capable of playing, but I think it is a legit question. Like, when you beat DT South 11v11 in primetime. Were you playing with all 03's.......were they?

It just seems strange because Kat has two top 03 teams so you obviously have enough players to pass around and play age pure. You guys are great, so why not stick to the SDL rules and play age pure?

When '03 SRSA and DT South '03 played, they both played age pure. Kat's Solar Red team is her development team. They are competing well in '03, but may not be prepared for '02 D1.

'03 SRSA has used an '02 goalie and a defender in the past while we play D1 '02s. Kat & Derek agree it is for the better development of our girls just like Derek has done in the past with his D1 girls that are in select now. I am not 100% sure how SDL looks at this. As per SDL rules we should also only be playing D2 not D1. However, we know how that went last season.

Most games we play age pure. We will always play age pure against any other '03 team.

I have seen games in SDL where the keeper and two top 02 defensive players from Kat's team stay on the field the entire game(maybe, get a few minutes break). In 9v9 that's 33% of the team. It seems that some are underestimating how big of a difference that can make in a game. Like when 02 rowdies use some 01's to help them out when they play up.

I'm sure Derek knows what he is doing since he was successful in the past with the 00's.

Well..... Then you know as much as I do. You are more than welcome to leave us off any rankings. Our team is more about development rather than rankings. I am personally proud of what our team is doing in D1 and 11v11 even with the assistance of 1-2 '02s on occasion.

it's more than 1-2, it's more than "on occasion", but you're right. It's all about development.

jj4mel wrote:

AP Pollster wrote:

jj4mel wrote:

AP Pollster wrote:hey, since I see all you 03 SRSA people on this thread. I wanted to throw out a question. I'm doing my rankings and I am having a difficult time throwing you guys in the mix because I have never seen you play age pure.

I AM NOT saying this to belittle how good some of your players are and the high quality soccer that you are capable of playing, but I think it is a legit question. Like, when you beat DT South 11v11 in primetime. Were you playing with all 03's.......were they?

It just seems strange because Kat has two top 03 teams so you obviously have enough players to pass around and play age pure. You guys are great, so why not stick to the SDL rules and play age pure?

When '03 SRSA and DT South '03 played, they both played age pure. Kat's Solar Red team is her development team. They are competing well in '03, but may not be prepared for '02 D1.

'03 SRSA has used an '02 goalie and a defender in the past while we play D1 '02s. Kat & Derek agree it is for the better development of our girls just like Derek has done in the past with his D1 girls that are in select now. I am not 100% sure how SDL looks at this. As per SDL rules we should also only be playing D2 not D1. However, we know how that went last season.

Most games we play age pure. We will always play age pure against any other '03 team.

I have seen games in SDL where the keeper and two top 02 defensive players from Kat's team stay on the field the entire game(maybe, get a few minutes break). In 9v9 that's 33% of the team. It seems that some are underestimating how big of a difference that can make in a game. Like when 02 rowdies use some 01's to help them out when they play up.

I'm sure Derek knows what he is doing since he was successful in the past with the 00's.

Well..... Then you know as much as I do. You are more than welcome to leave us off any rankings. Our team is more about development rather than rankings. I am personally proud of what our team is doing in D1 and 11v11 even with the assistance of 1-2 '02s on occasion.

JJ - come one now. This sounds like a different tune. You are on these forums a lot, much of the time on the 02 threads, talking up Kat and this SRSA 03 team and how good they are, as an 03 team competing with 02 D1 teams. It is a good team, and they did dominate the 02 D2 teams last season, thus playing up this season. Really should be no complaints about using the 02 players, in an 02 division, seems fine to me. Some forum browsers might see it as a little mis leading, considering this fact is down played or never mentioned until now when called out on it, all the while talking about how great this SRSA 03 team is and has competed in the 02 D1 division this season. As for the rankings, between JJ and Turftow, you both seem really happy to be mentioned in the 02 rankings up to this point, as you have mentioned before.

soccerdad19 wrote:

jj4mel wrote:

AP Pollster wrote:

jj4mel wrote:

AP Pollster wrote:hey, since I see all you 03 SRSA people on this thread. I wanted to throw out a question. I'm doing my rankings and I am having a difficult time throwing you guys in the mix because I have never seen you play age pure.

I AM NOT saying this to belittle how good some of your players are and the high quality soccer that you are capable of playing, but I think it is a legit question. Like, when you beat DT South 11v11 in primetime. Were you playing with all 03's.......were they?

It just seems strange because Kat has two top 03 teams so you obviously have enough players to pass around and play age pure. You guys are great, so why not stick to the SDL rules and play age pure?

When '03 SRSA and DT South '03 played, they both played age pure. Kat's Solar Red team is her development team. They are competing well in '03, but may not be prepared for '02 D1.

'03 SRSA has used an '02 goalie and a defender in the past while we play D1 '02s. Kat & Derek agree it is for the better development of our girls just like Derek has done in the past with his D1 girls that are in select now. I am not 100% sure how SDL looks at this. As per SDL rules we should also only be playing D2 not D1. However, we know how that went last season.

Most games we play age pure. We will always play age pure against any other '03 team.

I have seen games in SDL where the keeper and two top 02 defensive players from Kat's team stay on the field the entire game(maybe, get a few minutes break). In 9v9 that's 33% of the team. It seems that some are underestimating how big of a difference that can make in a game. Like when 02 rowdies use some 01's to help them out when they play up.

I'm sure Derek knows what he is doing since he was successful in the past with the 00's.

Well..... Then you know as much as I do. You are more than welcome to leave us off any rankings. Our team is more about development rather than rankings. I am personally proud of what our team is doing in D1 and 11v11 even with the assistance of 1-2 '02s on occasion.

JJ - come one now. This sounds like a different tune. You are on these forums a lot, much of the time on the 02 threads, talking up Kat and this SRSA 03 team and how good they are, as an 03 team competing with 02 D1 teams. It is a good team, and they did dominate the 02 D2 teams last season, thus playing up this season. Really should be no complaints about using the 02 players, in an 02 division, seems fine to me. Some fourm browesers might see it as a little mis leading, considering this fact is down played or never mentioned until now when called out on it, all the while talking about how great this SRSA 03 team is and has competed in the 02 D1 division this season. As for the rankings, between JJ and Turftow, you both seem really happy to be mentioned in the 02 rankings up to this point, as you have mentioned before.

Look at all the old threads. We NEVER denied utilizing '02s on this team. NEVER. We appreciate the fact that we are mentioned in some of the polls. I do not believe you heard any complaints about SRSA being left off of bwgophers poll. If you want to rank us, feel free to rank us as an '02 team. If you want to leave us off your rankings, then feel free to do so. SRSA has proven where they stand in the '02 & '03 soccer world on the field. I think that speaks louder than txsoccer.net pollsters.

jj4mel wrote:

soccerdad19 wrote:

jj4mel wrote:

AP Pollster wrote:

jj4mel wrote:

AP Pollster wrote:hey, since I see all you 03 SRSA people on this thread. I wanted to throw out a question. I'm doing my rankings and I am having a difficult time throwing you guys in the mix because I have never seen you play age pure.

I AM NOT saying this to belittle how good some of your players are and the high quality soccer that you are capable of playing, but I think it is a legit question. Like, when you beat DT South 11v11 in primetime. Were you playing with all 03's.......were they?

It just seems strange because Kat has two top 03 teams so you obviously have enough players to pass around and play age pure. You guys are great, so why not stick to the SDL rules and play age pure?

When '03 SRSA and DT South '03 played, they both played age pure. Kat's Solar Red team is her development team. They are competing well in '03, but may not be prepared for '02 D1.

'03 SRSA has used an '02 goalie and a defender in the past while we play D1 '02s. Kat & Derek agree it is for the better development of our girls just like Derek has done in the past with his D1 girls that are in select now. I am not 100% sure how SDL looks at this. As per SDL rules we should also only be playing D2 not D1. However, we know how that went last season.

Most games we play age pure. We will always play age pure against any other '03 team.

I have seen games in SDL where the keeper and two top 02 defensive players from Kat's team stay on the field the entire game(maybe, get a few minutes break). In 9v9 that's 33% of the team. It seems that some are underestimating how big of a difference that can make in a game. Like when 02 rowdies use some 01's to help them out when they play up.

I'm sure Derek knows what he is doing since he was successful in the past with the 00's.

Well..... Then you know as much as I do. You are more than welcome to leave us off any rankings. Our team is more about development rather than rankings. I am personally proud of what our team is doing in D1 and 11v11 even with the assistance of 1-2 '02s on occasion.

JJ - come one now. This sounds like a different tune. You are on these forums a lot, much of the time on the 02 threads, talking up Kat and this SRSA 03 team and how good they are, as an 03 team competing with 02 D1 teams. It is a good team, and they did dominate the 02 D2 teams last season, thus playing up this season. Really should be no complaints about using the 02 players, in an 02 division, seems fine to me. Some fourm browesers might see it as a little mis leading, considering this fact is down played or never mentioned until now when called out on it, all the while talking about how great this SRSA 03 team is and has competed in the 02 D1 division this season. As for the rankings, between JJ and Turftow, you both seem really happy to be mentioned in the 02 rankings up to this point, as you have mentioned before.

Look at all the old threads. We NEVER denied utilizing '02s on this team. NEVER. We appreciate the fact that we are mentioned in some of the polls. I do not believe you heard any complaints about SRSA being left off of bwgophers poll. If you want to rank us, feel free to rank us as an '02 team. If you want to leave us off your rankings, then feel free to do so. SRSA has proven where they stand in the '02 & '03 soccer world on the field. I think that speaks louder than txsoccer.net pollsters.

The 02 soccer teams could care less if they use guests! Most other teams do it....Stavou, Dynamo, DT Vigil uses Glotz players, DT South uses stud forward from Waco Blast periodically....only teams that I never see use guests in a league game are DT Glotz, Webb 02, FC Dallas! Now the big question for Jj and TT is why are they using the guests? Is to to help them win? If so....how is that helping development? I understand using a guest if they are trying out your team, but these 02's are obviously not trying out for a 03 team! So there is only one obvious answer...its to help them be competitive! So yes when they do beat an 02 team while using 02 players is does take a little shine off of the victory compared to a victory using only 03 players! But, hey if they need the 02' s to be competitive that is what the top
02 teams want.....a competitive game.

RoidRage wrote:

jj4mel wrote:

soccerdad19 wrote:

jj4mel wrote:

AP Pollster wrote:

jj4mel wrote:

AP Pollster wrote:hey, since I see all you 03 SRSA people on this thread. I wanted to throw out a question. I'm doing my rankings and I am having a difficult time throwing you guys in the mix because I have never seen you play age pure.

I AM NOT saying this to belittle how good some of your players are and the high quality soccer that you are capable of playing, but I think it is a legit question. Like, when you beat DT South 11v11 in primetime. Were you playing with all 03's.......were they?

It just seems strange because Kat has two top 03 teams so you obviously have enough players to pass around and play age pure. You guys are great, so why not stick to the SDL rules and play age pure?

When '03 SRSA and DT South '03 played, they both played age pure. Kat's Solar Red team is her development team. They are competing well in '03, but may not be prepared for '02 D1.

'03 SRSA has used an '02 goalie and a defender in the past while we play D1 '02s. Kat & Derek agree it is for the better development of our girls just like Derek has done in the past with his D1 girls that are in select now. I am not 100% sure how SDL looks at this. As per SDL rules we should also only be playing D2 not D1. However, we know how that went last season.

Most games we play age pure. We will always play age pure against any other '03 team.

I have seen games in SDL where the keeper and two top 02 defensive players from Kat's team stay on the field the entire game(maybe, get a few minutes break). In 9v9 that's 33% of the team. It seems that some are underestimating how big of a difference that can make in a game. Like when 02 rowdies use some 01's to help them out when they play up.

I'm sure Derek knows what he is doing since he was successful in the past with the 00's.

Well..... Then you know as much as I do. You are more than welcome to leave us off any rankings. Our team is more about development rather than rankings. I am personally proud of what our team is doing in D1 and 11v11 even with the assistance of 1-2 '02s on occasion.

JJ - come one now. This sounds like a different tune. You are on these forums a lot, much of the time on the 02 threads, talking up Kat and this SRSA 03 team and how good they are, as an 03 team competing with 02 D1 teams. It is a good team, and they did dominate the 02 D2 teams last season, thus playing up this season. Really should be no complaints about using the 02 players, in an 02 division, seems fine to me. Some fourm browesers might see it as a little mis leading, considering this fact is down played or never mentioned until now when called out on it, all the while talking about how great this SRSA 03 team is and has competed in the 02 D1 division this season. As for the rankings, between JJ and Turftow, you both seem really happy to be mentioned in the 02 rankings up to this point, as you have mentioned before.

Look at all the old threads. We NEVER denied utilizing '02s on this team. NEVER. We appreciate the fact that we are mentioned in some of the polls. I do not believe you heard any complaints about SRSA being left off of bwgophers poll. If you want to rank us, feel free to rank us as an '02 team. If you want to leave us off your rankings, then feel free to do so. SRSA has proven where they stand in the '02 & '03 soccer world on the field. I think that speaks louder than txsoccer.net pollsters.

The 02 soccer teams could care less if they use guests! Most other teams do it....Stavou, Dynamo, DT Vigil uses Glotz players, DT South uses stud forward from Waco Blast periodically....only teams that I never see use guests in a league game are DT Glotz, Webb 02, FC Dallas! Now the big question for Jj and TT is why are they using the guests? Is to to help them win? If so....how is that helping development? I understand using a guest if they are trying out your team, but these 02's are obviously not trying out for a 03 team! So there is only one obvious answer...its to help them be competitive! So yes when they do beat an 02 team while using 02 players is does take a little shine off of the victory compared to a victory using only 03 players! But, hey if they need the 02' s to competitive that is what the top
02 teams want.....a competitive game.

Agree, and well said. One correction, no guests for Dynamo this spring. Had a couple of guest players last fall, when some girls were "test driving" with Dynamo. Have not had any guest players this spring.