Spring 2012 '02 FBR - 2-18-12

O.K., Lucky for you (or maybe unlucky, depending on how you look at it), I've been stuck out of town on business this weekend with time to kill.

I'll step into the vacuum for now, but if 02Dad or ProfessorFBR resurface to take this back over, I'll gladly step away and let them have it.

I had to put all of this back together from scratch. The easiest way for me to do it, was to just go back through the archives and find results starting with the fall/winter tourneys in November.

So, this version of FBR is based on game results that I could find from 11/1/11 through present. I based my ranking tier assessment off of those games results only. I will post the current ranking tiers further down.

This FBR ranking may look a fair bit different from the last one 02Dad posted on 1/20/12, mainly because I am not including any fall league results. This version of FBR will also probably be a little "noisy" until we get 3-4 weeks of Spring league games played, but I would fully expect it to dial in nicely like it did for the '01's as the summer and QT approaches.

Also, I may not be 100% up on all of the team/club changes that have happened since the end of fall season. I started by going through all of the Spring academy leagues, and then did my best to sync up all of the fall/winter tourney results with the appropriate Spring league team. If you find obvious mistakes, please let me know and I will do my best to get everything corrected.

There are also about 15 or so teams signed up for Spring leagues that haven't played 3 games that I could find since last November. As those teams get a minimum of 3 games under their belts, they will start to show up in the rankings.

Without further ado...

Thx Gophers!!!

I am sure there will be quite a few adjustments in the coming weeks, once season play scores are factored in. Tournaments aren't always indicative of what you see in season play and can skew things. But so nice to have FBR back!!! Thanks bwgophers. Just off the top of my head...Searls Royal is one of those teams that need three games in season play before getting on the board I guess. They will probably jump in the top 20 quickly.

Thx gopher!!

Thanks Gopher! Note: LP 02G Dalglish (Waldrum) is also playing in SDL. The EAL team is actually a hybrid of Dalglish and Beardsley. (using the league for more touches).

Bierluva wrote:Thanks Gopher! Note: LP 02G Dalglish (Waldrum) is also playing in SDL. The EAL team is actually a hybrid of Dalglish and Beardsley. (using the league for more touches).

Oops. Missed adding the SDL to Dalglish.

What is the most appropriate way to handle the EAL team? Are they more Dalglish, more Beardsley, or should I create a new team in the rankings and call them something like Liverpool Dalgsley or Liverpool Beardlish???

Good question... it is a 50/50 split pretty much... Dalgsley or Beardlish if you must. Just don't want to screw up the rankings considering...

Gopher. Are you an alumni of GP gophers?? Just curious!

Bierluva wrote:Good question... it is a 50/50 split pretty much... Dalgsley or Beardlish if you must. Just don't want to screw up the rankings considering...

I'll stick in a separate team and just call them Liverpool '02 EAL. That probably makes the most sense based on what you've told me.

Liverpool Hansen is split into two teams. Red in SDL, White in PTCL.

White is in PTCL to work on touches and development and would be in Silver Division if they had one. Red is the more competitive team. Their results should not be combined.

Red team record this spring:

Freedom Cup

W 5-0 Sting East Gutierrez
W 1-0 Texas Thunder
L 1-3 Dynasty SC (Silver Division Champion)

SDL

D 1-1 Sting West O'Keefe

Xara tournament was a hybrid of the two teams and should not be reflected in the rankings either.

Appreciate the effort to create a ranking sytem and just wanted to set our record straight.

JohnJohn

soccermom13 wrote:Gopher. Are you an alumni of GP gophers?? Just curious!

Nope. Just a simple homage to my favorite movie of all time.

bwgophers = Bushwood Gophers, which has been the long time moniker of my fantasy football team. Always works as a unique screen name whenever I have to sign up for some on-line account.

This is probably a really dumb question. What is the difference between cWL and just the W-L? Is the cWL just for those in your tier?

Thanks

bwgophers wrote:

soccermom13 wrote:Gopher. Are you an alumni of GP gophers?? Just curious!

Nope. Just a simple homage to my favorite movie of all time.

bwgophers = Bushwood Gophers, which has been the long time moniker of my fantasy football team. Always works as a unique screen name whenever I have to sign up for some on-line account.

Thought it had more to movie. Lol
Thx for doing the fbr

JohnJohn wrote:Liverpool Hansen is split into two teams. Red in SDL, White in PTCL.

White is in PTCL to work on touches and development and would be in Silver Division if they had one. Red is the more competitive team. Their results should not be combined.

Red team record this spring:

Freedom Cup

W 5-0 Sting East Gutierrez
W 1-0 Texas Thunder
L 1-3 Dynasty SC (Silver Division Champion)

SDL

D 1-1 Sting West O'Keefe

Xara tournament was a hybrid of the two teams and should not be reflected in the rankings either.

Appreciate the effort to create a ranking sytem and just wanted to set our record straight.

JohnJohn

Dang! Between you Liverpool folks and the TFC folks, my head's-a-spinning Just Kidding. Thanks for the info.

I'm actually going to assign the XARA results to the White team, just so I can get a little more initial placement data for them. Their PTCL results will carry the bulk of their ranking.

uglydoll wrote:This is probably a really dumb question. What is the difference between cWL and just the W-L? Is the cWL just for those in your tier?

Thanks

Yes. cWL is the W/L record against teams within the same tier.

To help re-educate folks, FBR stands for FootballRankulator, which is the name of the SW program that we use. FBR was created and is sold to rank college football teams. We have just corrupted it to our noble efforts to create the best 10 yr old soccer ranking system in the world.

cWL actually means "conference" W/L record. The "conference" feature in the SW allows you to apply different weighting or strength factors to difference conference (i.e. You can give the SEC a stronger weight than the Mounatin West, etc.).

The Ranking Tiers are set up in FBR as different "conferences". I switched to calling them tiers midway through the '01's because people kept confusing "conferences" with the different "division" of various leagues.

Placement in the tiers based solely off of game performance and will not necessarily follow league/division assignments.

Using the tiers in FBR allows us to apply a sliding weight scale to help get every teams' Stength of Schedule correct. It's what helps FBR do a reasonably good job of ranking teams with very good W/L record against weaker competition relative to teams with poor W/L record playing against tough competition.

bwgophers wrote:

JohnJohn wrote:Liverpool Hansen is split into two teams. Red in SDL, White in PTCL.

White is in PTCL to work on touches and development and would be in Silver Division if they had one. Red is the more competitive team. Their results should not be combined.

Red team record this spring:

Freedom Cup

W 5-0 Sting East Gutierrez
W 1-0 Texas Thunder
L 1-3 Dynasty SC (Silver Division Champion)

SDL

D 1-1 Sting West O'Keefe

Xara tournament was a hybrid of the two teams and should not be reflected in the rankings either.

Appreciate the effort to create a ranking sytem and just wanted to set our record straight.

JohnJohn

Dang! Between you Liverpool folks and the TFC folks, my head's-a-spinning Just Kidding. Thanks for the info.

I'm actually going to assign the XARA results to the White team, just so I can get a little more initial placement data for them. Their PTCL results will carry the bulk of their ranking.

Ya I know, we're a complicated lot to say the least.

JohnJohn wrote:

bwgophers wrote:

JohnJohn wrote:Liverpool Hansen is split into two teams. Red in SDL, White in PTCL.

White is in PTCL to work on touches and development and would be in Silver Division if they had one. Red is the more competitive team. Their results should not be combined.

Red team record this spring:

Freedom Cup

W 5-0 Sting East Gutierrez
W 1-0 Texas Thunder
L 1-3 Dynasty SC (Silver Division Champion)

SDL

D 1-1 Sting West O'Keefe

Xara tournament was a hybrid of the two teams and should not be reflected in the rankings either.

Appreciate the effort to create a ranking sytem and just wanted to set our record straight.

JohnJohn

Dang! Between you Liverpool folks and the TFC folks, my head's-a-spinning Just Kidding. Thanks for the info.

I'm actually going to assign the XARA results to the White team, just so I can get a little more initial placement data for them. Their PTCL results will carry the bulk of their ranking.

Ya I know, we're a complicated lot to say the least.

Yeah... We are not going to make it easy for anyone!!

Bierluva wrote:

JohnJohn wrote:

bwgophers wrote:

JohnJohn wrote:Liverpool Hansen is split into two teams. Red in SDL, White in PTCL.

White is in PTCL to work on touches and development and would be in Silver Division if they had one. Red is the more competitive team. Their results should not be combined.

Red team record this spring:

Freedom Cup

W 5-0 Sting East Gutierrez
W 1-0 Texas Thunder
L 1-3 Dynasty SC (Silver Division Champion)

SDL

D 1-1 Sting West O'Keefe

Xara tournament was a hybrid of the two teams and should not be reflected in the rankings either.

Appreciate the effort to create a ranking sytem and just wanted to set our record straight.

JohnJohn

Dang! Between you Liverpool folks and the TFC folks, my head's-a-spinning Just Kidding. Thanks for the info.

I'm actually going to assign the XARA results to the White team, just so I can get a little more initial placement data for them. Their PTCL results will carry the bulk of their ranking.

Ya I know, we're a complicated lot to say the least.

Yeah... We are not going to make it easy for anyone!!

I guess melamamas had it right all along, huh? (https://www.txsoccer.net/t9682-breaking-news)

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!

bwgophers wrote:

Bierluva wrote:

JohnJohn wrote:

bwgophers wrote:

JohnJohn wrote:Liverpool Hansen is split into two teams. Red in SDL, White in PTCL.

White is in PTCL to work on touches and development and would be in Silver Division if they had one. Red is the more competitive team. Their results should not be combined.

Red team record this spring:

Freedom Cup

W 5-0 Sting East Gutierrez
W 1-0 Texas Thunder
L 1-3 Dynasty SC (Silver Division Champion)

SDL

D 1-1 Sting West O'Keefe

Xara tournament was a hybrid of the two teams and should not be reflected in the rankings either.

Appreciate the effort to create a ranking sytem and just wanted to set our record straight.

JohnJohn

Dang! Between you Liverpool folks and the TFC folks, my head's-a-spinning Just Kidding. Thanks for the info.

I'm actually going to assign the XARA results to the White team, just so I can get a little more initial placement data for them. Their PTCL results will carry the bulk of their ranking.

Ya I know, we're a complicated lot to say the least.

Yeah... We are not going to make it easy for anyone!!

I guess melamamas had it right all along, huh? (https://www.txsoccer.net/t9682-breaking-news)

Yikes! I wish I had the power to manipulate the boards... alas I am only a lowly observer of these fine boards...

Gophers your the man!!!!!!!!hopefully you can stick around for the weekly rankings.

I don't believe it is TFC Larry in TGPL silver. I think it is TFC Elite Wells in TGPL. I don't know where TFC Larry plays.

Is there any significance to the font color? Just curious.

uglydoll wrote:I don't believe it is TFC Larry in TGPL silver. I think it is TFC Elite Wells in TGPL. I don't know where TFC Larry plays.

Yup. Thanks. I got a PM along those lines as well. According to that PM, TFC Larry is playing SDL, but the SDL schedule site doesn't have them listed.

I'm sure I'll find them if they are out there.