Not One Comment on the USA vs Belgium game?!?!?!?

Androfan aka Kicksfan wrote:

the7wolf wrote:

tornado11 wrote:

007shaken wrote:Hard to believe in this great big country with millions of kids playing soccer that those are the best defenders we can find.

And you can blame the 'club soccer' pay to play system for that.....ALL the clubs care about is transferring your $$$ to their pockets...too many 'tournaments' (at a team cost of $400-600 per tournament...all to 'win a $3.00 trophy)...the club coaching is mostly crap, mostly abusive and definitely negative, the parents are out of control, the fields are poor, the kids aren't enjoying the game.....there is a cost free alternative coming soon....great fields, central location, NO charge...ZERO.....watch this space...run by people who are more qualified than ANY of the coaches in N.Texas.

Some of the coaches in NTX have UEFA A or B licenses and plenty have USSF A or B. There are also plenty of ex-pros coaching so is there an Intergalactic License we haven't heard of and some players coming from the Galactic Empire All-Star XI to the Metroplex? Will also be interested to see these free fields, free uniforms, free tournament entry, free league entry, etc.

Sorry Wolf, but a license means exactly @#@$$ if the person holding it cant connect with the students/players, doesnt care about them, or what they learn. What it proves is that person sat thru the courses and got out on a pitch usually with a bunch of other coaches and ran a session to pass the test. That an investment in time to increase their earning potential for 98% of them. Nothing more.

I won't disagree with you that in a number of cases, there are licensed coaches I wouldn't trust to catsit or organize the making of a sandwich and all the qualifications in the world doesn't guarantee somebody can connect with kids.

What I'm answering to is the assertion that this new free model somehow has coaches with qualifications higher than actually exist.

SouthlakeDad wrote:Well, then, why -- when the US men's team is struggling and 3rd tier -- is the US women's team world class? What's happening differently for the boys vs the girls?

Thanks to title IX the USA had a 20 year head start on the rest of the world in women's soccer....that world is now catching up...fast.

the7wolf wrote:

Androfan aka Kicksfan wrote:

the7wolf wrote:

tornado11 wrote:

007shaken wrote:Hard to believe in this great big country with millions of kids playing soccer that those are the best defenders we can find.

And you can blame the 'club soccer' pay to play system for that.....ALL the clubs care about is transferring your $$$ to their pockets...too many 'tournaments' (at a team cost of $400-600 per tournament...all to 'win a $3.00 trophy)...the club coaching is mostly crap, mostly abusive and definitely negative, the parents are out of control, the fields are poor, the kids aren't enjoying the game.....there is a cost free alternative coming soon....great fields, central location, NO charge...ZERO.....watch this space...run by people who are more qualified than ANY of the coaches in N.Texas.

Some of the coaches in NTX have UEFA A or B licenses and plenty have USSF A or B. There are also plenty of ex-pros coaching so is there an Intergalactic License we haven't heard of and some players coming from the Galactic Empire All-Star XI to the Metroplex? Will also be interested to see these free fields, free uniforms, free tournament entry, free league entry, etc.

Sorry Wolf, but a license means exactly @#@$$ if the person holding it cant connect with the students/players, doesnt care about them, or what they learn. What it proves is that person sat thru the courses and got out on a pitch usually with a bunch of other coaches and ran a session to pass the test. That an investment in time to increase their earning potential for 98% of them. Nothing more.

I won't disagree with you that in a number of cases, there are licensed coaches I wouldn't trust to catsit or organize the making of a sandwich and all the qualifications in the world doesn't guarantee somebody can connect with kids.

What I'm answering to is the assertion that this new free model somehow has coaches with qualifications higher than actually exist.

Well, then with your agreement the level of certification shouldnt actually matter. What matters is their ability to actually TEACH and CARE.

the7wolf wrote:

Androfan aka Kicksfan wrote:

the7wolf wrote:

tornado11 wrote:

007shaken wrote:Hard to believe in this great big country with millions of kids playing soccer that those are the best defenders we can find.

And you can blame the 'club soccer' pay to play system for that.....ALL the clubs care about is transferring your $$$ to their pockets...too many 'tournaments' (at a team cost of $400-600 per tournament...all to 'win a $3.00 trophy)...the club coaching is mostly crap, mostly abusive and definitely negative, the parents are out of control, the fields are poor, the kids aren't enjoying the game.....there is a cost free alternative coming soon....great fields, central location, NO charge...ZERO.....watch this space...run by people who are more qualified than ANY of the coaches in N.Texas.

Some of the coaches in NTX have UEFA A or B licenses and plenty have USSF A or B. There are also plenty of ex-pros coaching so is there an Intergalactic License we haven't heard of and some players coming from the Galactic Empire All-Star XI to the Metroplex? Will also be interested to see these free fields, free uniforms, free tournament entry, free league entry, etc.

Sorry Wolf, but a license means exactly @#@$$ if the person holding it cant connect with the students/players, doesnt care about them, or what they learn. What it proves is that person sat thru the courses and got out on a pitch usually with a bunch of other coaches and ran a session to pass the test. That an investment in time to increase their earning potential for 98% of them. Nothing more.

I won't disagree with you that in a number of cases, there are licensed coaches I wouldn't trust to catsit or organize the making of a sandwich and all the qualifications in the world doesn't guarantee somebody can connect with kids.

What I'm answering to is the assertion that this new free model somehow has coaches with qualifications higher than actually exist.

This is an easy one...for you...don't show up with your kid when these 'no cost' sessions start up. Coming in late August 2013.

tornado11 wrote:

the7wolf wrote:

Androfan aka Kicksfan wrote:

the7wolf wrote:

tornado11 wrote:

007shaken wrote:Hard to believe in this great big country with millions of kids playing soccer that those are the best defenders we can find.

And you can blame the 'club soccer' pay to play system for that.....ALL the clubs care about is transferring your $$$ to their pockets...too many 'tournaments' (at a team cost of $400-600 per tournament...all to 'win a $3.00 trophy)...the club coaching is mostly crap, mostly abusive and definitely negative, the parents are out of control, the fields are poor, the kids aren't enjoying the game.....there is a cost free alternative coming soon....great fields, central location, NO charge...ZERO.....watch this space...run by people who are more qualified than ANY of the coaches in N.Texas.

Some of the coaches in NTX have UEFA A or B licenses and plenty have USSF A or B. There are also plenty of ex-pros coaching so is there an Intergalactic License we haven't heard of and some players coming from the Galactic Empire All-Star XI to the Metroplex? Will also be interested to see these free fields, free uniforms, free tournament entry, free league entry, etc.

Sorry Wolf, but a license means exactly @#@$$ if the person holding it cant connect with the students/players, doesnt care about them, or what they learn. What it proves is that person sat thru the courses and got out on a pitch usually with a bunch of other coaches and ran a session to pass the test. That an investment in time to increase their earning potential for 98% of them. Nothing more.

I won't disagree with you that in a number of cases, there are licensed coaches I wouldn't trust to catsit or organize the making of a sandwich and all the qualifications in the world doesn't guarantee somebody can connect with kids.

What I'm answering to is the assertion that this new free model somehow has coaches with qualifications higher than actually exist.

This is an easy one...for you...don't show up with your kid when these 'no cost' sessions start up. Coming in late August 2013.

So any heads up you can provide on this new alternative??

Oh, brother. Yet another thread that started with a discussion of a poor performance by a US soccer team and has devolved into a dissection of everything that is wrong with club soccer. And once again, everyone has the answer... even though most of the respondants have next to no playing experience or perhaps played in high school or college at best. Maybe another old timer like Uncle Numanga could step in at this point and give an estimate of just how many times this exchange has played out in the past 12 years. I'm guessing in the thousands.

Select soccer is the monster it is today for a few reasons. First, coaches love to coach. It's in their blood. Most of them would do it for free, but the fact that a decent income can be had makes it all the more appealing. Getting paid for doing what one enjoys is everyone's dream, right? So much of the blame on the "system" is misplaced. The typical coach does the best he can with what he has. At the same time - because he's getting paid for the job - he must juggle the expectations of the parents (i.e. win games, play my child at least 75% of the game, and ignore the fact that I behave like an idiot on the sideline) with the process of trying to develop the kids. We as customers that pay into this system coupled with a capitalistic society are largely responsible for its evolution.

When I was a kid growing up here in a developing North Texas soccer environment, the coaches SELECTED the players to be on their club teams from the rec soccer ranks. If you didn't have what it took, you didn't get chosen... regardless of how much your parents were willing to pay. Now, so long as a parent can write a check, there is a "SELECT" team for them. Never mind that their offspring are average athletes at best. Truth be told, just a miniscule fraction of all the girls currently playing are exceptional, even at the ECNL levels. Don't get me wrong; they are good players. But players like Prinz, K. Smith, Wambach, Sawa, Sinclair, Marta, and Hamm are remarkably rare. For every one unnaturally gifted female athlete, there are a million others out there kicking soccer balls in weekend tournaments that simply don't have "the gift" to ever approach that level.

So why push it so hard? Isn't there a point of diminishing returns? Will a few more private skills sessions, another year in ODP, guest playing in additional tournaments, or moving the little progidy to a higher ranked team be the caveat that catapults her into greatness? Not likely. Coaches aren't magicians, and the system is not entirely to blame. For 99.9 percent of us, our kids are just kids and soccer is not the end-all. Why not just enjoy watching them a little more and quit worrying so much about perceived weaknesses in their play?

JustaSport wrote:Oh, brother. Yet another thread that started with a discussion of a poor performance by a US soccer team and has devolved into a dissection of everything that is wrong with club soccer. And once again, everyone has the answer... even though most of the respondants have next to no playing experience or perhaps played in high school or college at best. Maybe another old timer like Uncle Numanga could step in at this point and give an estimate of just how many times this exchange has played out in the past 12 years. I'm guessing in the thousands.

Select soccer is the monster it is today for a few reasons. First, coaches love to coach. It's in their blood. Most of them would do it for free, but the fact that a decent income can be had makes it all the more appealing. Getting paid for doing what one enjoys is everyone's dream, right? So much of the blame on the "system" is misplaced. The typical coach does the best he can with what he has. At the same time - because he's getting paid for the job - he must juggle the expectations of the parents (i.e. win games, play my child at least 75% of the game, and ignore the fact that I behave like an idiot on the sideline) with the process of trying to develop the kids. We as customers that pay into this system coupled with a capitalistic society are largely responsible for its evolution.

When I was a kid growing up here in a developing North Texas soccer environment, the coaches SELECTED the players to be on their club teams from the rec soccer ranks. If you didn't have what it took, you didn't get chosen... regardless of how much your parents were willing to pay. Now, so long as a parent can write a check, there is a "SELECT" team for them. Never mind that their offspring are average athletes at best. Truth be told, just a miniscule fraction of all the girls currently playing are exceptional, even at the ECNL levels. Don't get me wrong; they are good players. But players like Prinz, K. Smith, Wambach, Sawa, Sinclair, Marta, and Hamm are remarkably rare. For every one unnaturally gifted female athlete, there are a million others out there kicking soccer balls in weekend tournaments that simply don't have "the gift" to ever approach that level.

So why push it so hard? Isn't there a point of diminishing returns? Will a few more private skills sessions, another year in ODP, guest playing in additional tournaments, or moving the little progidy to a higher ranked team be the caveat that catapults her into greatness? Not likely. Coaches aren't magicians, and the system is not entirely to blame. For 99.9 percent of us, our kids are just kids and soccer is not the end-all. Why not just enjoy watching them a little more and quit worrying so much about perceived weaknesses in their play?

Justasport, you are clueless again. Haven't you been reading this thread? What is needed is a free system with free fields,jerseys, and adults that care so much they are willing to commit countless hours and longterm loyalty to your DD for free (that sounds normal) oh, and don't forget that these new "free" coaches will be better than ANY - ANY ALL EACH ONE NO EXCEPTION - ANY coaches in NTX.

My DD has been busting her @$$! to try and make a D1/ECNL squad, but with the soccer utopia coming in August - I'll be giving the coach and the club the finger and waiting until late August 2013 (glad the mention 2013 - because at first I thought 2014 which I was also prepared to wait).

I guess we all should have seen this once Shannon's street soccer made such a huge dent in club soccer, he cared, could coach, and provided a great low cost option and I believe has more kids than pretty much no one.

Also, I have learned through many years of sports of all levels, that if parents, players, and coaches aren't paying and there is no money "teeth", their comittment level is never an issue.

Don't worry that it is being brought by a guy named Tornado. Tornados have only killed what, hundreds this month right north of here and family ties here in NTX. At least his username wasn't AIDS, Serial Killer, and he probaly doesn't even care enough to make the connection.

Keep watching the space, the revolution is coming and apparently it is starting on txsoccer.net.

Androfan aka Kicksfan wrote:

tornado11 wrote:

the7wolf wrote:

Androfan aka Kicksfan wrote:

the7wolf wrote:

tornado11 wrote:

And you can blame the 'club soccer' pay to play system for that.....ALL the clubs care about is transferring your $$$ to their pockets...too many 'tournaments' (at a team cost of $400-600 per tournament...all to 'win a $3.00 trophy)...the club coaching is mostly crap, mostly abusive and definitely negative, the parents are out of control, the fields are poor, the kids aren't enjoying the game.....there is a cost free alternative coming soon....great fields, central location, NO charge...ZERO.....watch this space...run by people who are more qualified than ANY of the coaches in N.Texas.

Some of the coaches in NTX have UEFA A or B licenses and plenty have USSF A or B. There are also plenty of ex-pros coaching so is there an Intergalactic License we haven't heard of and some players coming from the Galactic Empire All-Star XI to the Metroplex? Will also be interested to see these free fields, free uniforms, free tournament entry, free league entry, etc.

Sorry Wolf, but a license means exactly @#@$$ if the person holding it cant connect with the students/players, doesnt care about them, or what they learn. What it proves is that person sat thru the courses and got out on a pitch usually with a bunch of other coaches and ran a session to pass the test. That an investment in time to increase their earning potential for 98% of them. Nothing more.

I won't disagree with you that in a number of cases, there are licensed coaches I wouldn't trust to catsit or organize the making of a sandwich and all the qualifications in the world doesn't guarantee somebody can connect with kids.

What I'm answering to is the assertion that this new free model somehow has coaches with qualifications higher than actually exist.

This is an easy one...for you...don't show up with your kid when these 'no cost' sessions start up. Coming in late August 2013.

So any heads up you can provide on this new alternative??

A little. The plan is to have 3 to 4 sessions per week on a 'make it if you can' basis. The excellent fields are being provided (at no cost) by a well known N.Dallas private school. The sessions will be open to kids who can actually play the game a bit. The two coaches who are the main driving force are both former national team players, both with top licences and will donate their time. A good friend of one of these has agreed to pay for ALL the equipment needed, balls, bibs,cones,flags etc. As one of the coaches told me "the vast majority of improvement in soccer comes in practice/training, not in the games themselves"...there will be a lot of short-sided games (5 v 5 etc)..a lot of 'free play' a lot of 'street ball' if you will....

tornado11 wrote:

Androfan aka Kicksfan wrote:

tornado11 wrote:

the7wolf wrote:

Androfan aka Kicksfan wrote:

the7wolf wrote:

Some of the coaches in NTX have UEFA A or B licenses and plenty have USSF A or B. There are also plenty of ex-pros coaching so is there an Intergalactic License we haven't heard of and some players coming from the Galactic Empire All-Star XI to the Metroplex? Will also be interested to see these free fields, free uniforms, free tournament entry, free league entry, etc.

Sorry Wolf, but a license means exactly @#@$$ if the person holding it cant connect with the students/players, doesnt care about them, or what they learn. What it proves is that person sat thru the courses and got out on a pitch usually with a bunch of other coaches and ran a session to pass the test. That an investment in time to increase their earning potential for 98% of them. Nothing more.

I won't disagree with you that in a number of cases, there are licensed coaches I wouldn't trust to catsit or organize the making of a sandwich and all the qualifications in the world doesn't guarantee somebody can connect with kids.

What I'm answering to is the assertion that this new free model somehow has coaches with qualifications higher than actually exist.

This is an easy one...for you...don't show up with your kid when these 'no cost' sessions start up. Coming in late August 2013.

So any heads up you can provide on this new alternative??

A little. The plan is to have 3 to 4 sessions per week on a 'make it if you can' basis. The excellent fields are being provided (at no cost) by a well known N.Dallas private school. The sessions will be open to kids who can actually play the game a bit. The two coaches who are the main driving force are both former national team players, both with top licences and will donate their time. A good friend of one of these has agreed to pay for ALL the equipment needed, balls, bibs,cones,flags etc. As one of the coaches told me "the vast majority of improvement in soccer comes in practice/training, not in the games themselves"...there will be a lot of short-sided games (5 v 5 etc)..a lot of 'free play' a lot of 'street ball' if you will....

So it is a free pratice for kids that don't have to commit and there is no league( I know you say there will be when you get the numbers but that is unlikely - best you can hope for is some glorified scrimmages). Also, high roller bought some cones and pennies so you are ready to take over the world with kids that dont have their own balls - awesome?

The two "coaches" who are better than ANY coaches around here are flying in from their soccer mecca to save us all. They wouldnt be actually coaching in NTX since they are better than all of those low lifes right? Also, great player does not make great coach.

How is this not Steet Soccer already being done?

This is a great idea and sounds like it could be beneficial, but, maybe, don't come across stupid and delusional claiming your coaches are gods and you are going to turn the system upside down. At best you will have an off the radar alternative for an extremely small number of players. Which isn't bad, but you pump it up like you're a dumbass.

Blank77 wrote:

tornado11 wrote:

Androfan aka Kicksfan wrote:

tornado11 wrote:

the7wolf wrote:

Androfan aka Kicksfan wrote:

Sorry Wolf, but a license means exactly @#@$$ if the person holding it cant connect with the students/players, doesnt care about them, or what they learn. What it proves is that person sat thru the courses and got out on a pitch usually with a bunch of other coaches and ran a session to pass the test. That an investment in time to increase their earning potential for 98% of them. Nothing more.

I won't disagree with you that in a number of cases, there are licensed coaches I wouldn't trust to catsit or organize the making of a sandwich and all the qualifications in the world doesn't guarantee somebody can connect with kids.

What I'm answering to is the assertion that this new free model somehow has coaches with qualifications higher than actually exist.

This is an easy one...for you...don't show up with your kid when these 'no cost' sessions start up. Coming in late August 2013.

So any heads up you can provide on this new alternative??

A little. The plan is to have 3 to 4 sessions per week on a 'make it if you can' basis. The excellent fields are being provided (at no cost) by a well known N.Dallas private school. The sessions will be open to kids who can actually play the game a bit. The two coaches who are the main driving force are both former national team players, both with top licences and will donate their time. A good friend of one of these has agreed to pay for ALL the equipment needed, balls, bibs,cones,flags etc. As one of the coaches told me "the vast majority of improvement in soccer comes in practice/training, not in the games themselves"...there will be a lot of short-sided games (5 v 5 etc)..a lot of 'free play' a lot of 'street ball' if you will....

So it is a free pratice for kids that don't have to commit and there is no league( I know you say there will be when you get the numbers but that is unlikely - best you can hope for is some glorified scrimmages). Also, high roller bought some cones and pennies so you are ready to take over the world with kids that dont have their own balls - awesome?

The two "coaches" who are better than ANY coaches around here are flying in from their soccer mecca to save us all. They wouldnt be actually coaching in NTX since they are better than all of those low lifes right? Also, great player does not make great coach.

How is this not Steet Soccer already being done?

This is a great idea and sounds like it could be beneficial, but, maybe, don't come across stupid and delusional claiming your coaches are gods and you are going to turn the system upside down. At best you will have an off the radar alternative for an extremely small number of players. Which isn't bad, but you pump it up like you're a dumbass.

You obviously have all the answers and have had your fill of the 'club soccer cool-aid'.....so keep doing what you're doing, putting up with 'tournamentitis', negative, load mouthed, verbally abusive coaches, interfering parents and the rest...the same old same old for you.

[quote="Blank77"][quote="tornado11"][quote="Androfan aka Kicksfan"][quote="tornado11"]

the7wolf wrote:

Androfan aka Kicksfan wrote:

Sorry Wolf, but a license means exactly @#@$$ if the person holding it cant connect with the students/players, doesnt care about them, or what they learn. What it proves is that person sat thru the courses and got out on a pitch usually with a bunch of other coaches and ran a session to pass the test. That an investment in time to increase their earning potential for 98% of them. Nothing more.

...So it is a free pratice for kids that don't have to commit and there is no league( I know you say there will be when you get the numbers but that is unlikely...

...Show me where I said there would be a league...?

tornado11 wrote:

Blank77 wrote:

tornado11 wrote:

Androfan aka Kicksfan wrote:

tornado11 wrote:

the7wolf wrote:

I won't disagree with you that in a number of cases, there are licensed coaches I wouldn't trust to catsit or organize the making of a sandwich and all the qualifications in the world doesn't guarantee somebody can connect with kids.

What I'm answering to is the assertion that this new free model somehow has coaches with qualifications higher than actually exist.

This is an easy one...for you...don't show up with your kid when these 'no cost' sessions start up. Coming in late August 2013.

So any heads up you can provide on this new alternative??

A little. The plan is to have 3 to 4 sessions per week on a 'make it if you can' basis. The excellent fields are being provided (at no cost) by a well known N.Dallas private school. The sessions will be open to kids who can actually play the game a bit. The two coaches who are the main driving force are both former national team players, both with top licences and will donate their time. A good friend of one of these has agreed to pay for ALL the equipment needed, balls, bibs,cones,flags etc. As one of the coaches told me "the vast majority of improvement in soccer comes in practice/training, not in the games themselves"...there will be a lot of short-sided games (5 v 5 etc)..a lot of 'free play' a lot of 'street ball' if you will....

So it is a free pratice for kids that don't have to commit and there is no league( I know you say there will be when you get the numbers but that is unlikely - best you can hope for is some glorified scrimmages). Also, high roller bought some cones and pennies so you are ready to take over the world with kids that dont have their own balls - awesome?

The two "coaches" who are better than ANY coaches around here are flying in from their soccer mecca to save us all. They wouldnt be actually coaching in NTX since they are better than all of those low lifes right? Also, great player does not make great coach.

How is this not Steet Soccer already being done?

This is a great idea and sounds like it could be beneficial, but, maybe, don't come across stupid and delusional claiming your coaches are gods and you are going to turn the system upside down. At best you will have an off the radar alternative for an extremely small number of players. Which isn't bad, but you pump it up like you're a dumbass.

You obviously have all the answers and have had your fill of the 'club soccer cool-aid'.....so keep doing what you're doing, putting up with 'tournamentitis', negative, load mouthed, verbally abusive coaches, interfering parents and the rest...the same old same old for you.

I will, because what I am doing is nothing like you described. I'm sorry you've had a bad experience, but my DD has had several great coaches, loves to play games and play in tournaments, also, personally, most of the other parents that I have met are great people.

On top of this, my DD has improved, has great life experiences already, and loves the sport.

You can keep on with ignorant absolute statements about having the 2 greatest coaches in the world, the accusation of how every coach and program is doing it wrong, and pump up your imaginary dream of a free solution that will solve all the problems.

The truth is, what is right for some is not right for all. What you are describing has been tried and the results have been seen. If you pull your head out and come back to reality, you may really help some players - but saying it is the answer for everyone is comical.

Blank77 wrote:

tornado11 wrote:

Blank77 wrote:

tornado11 wrote:

Androfan aka Kicksfan wrote:

tornado11 wrote:

This is an easy one...for you...don't show up with your kid when these 'no cost' sessions start up. Coming in late August 2013.

So any heads up you can provide on this new alternative??

A little. The plan is to have 3 to 4 sessions per week on a 'make it if you can' basis. The excellent fields are being provided (at no cost) by a well known N.Dallas private school. The sessions will be open to kids who can actually play the game a bit. The two coaches who are the main driving force are both former national team players, both with top licences and will donate their time. A good friend of one of these has agreed to pay for ALL the equipment needed, balls, bibs,cones,flags etc. As one of the coaches told me "the vast majority of improvement in soccer comes in practice/training, not in the games themselves"...there will be a lot of short-sided games (5 v 5 etc)..a lot of 'free play' a lot of 'street ball' if you will....

So it is a free pratice for kids that don't have to commit and there is no league( I know you say there will be when you get the numbers but that is unlikely - best you can hope for is some glorified scrimmages). Also, high roller bought some cones and pennies so you are ready to take over the world with kids that dont have their own balls - awesome?

The two "coaches" who are better than ANY coaches around here are flying in from their soccer mecca to save us all. They wouldnt be actually coaching in NTX since they are better than all of those low lifes right? Also, great player does not make great coach.

How is this not Steet Soccer already being done?

This is a great idea and sounds like it could be beneficial, but, maybe, don't come across stupid and delusional claiming your coaches are gods and you are going to turn the system upside down. At best you will have an off the radar alternative for an extremely small number of players. Which isn't bad, but you pump it up like you're a dumbass.

You obviously have all the answers and have had your fill of the 'club soccer cool-aid'.....so keep doing what you're doing, putting up with 'tournamentitis', negative, load mouthed, verbally abusive coaches, interfering parents and the rest...the same old same old for you.

I will, because what I am doing is nothing like you described. I'm sorry you've had a bad experience, but my DD has had several great coaches, loves to play games and play in tournaments, also, personally, most of the other parents that I have met are great people.

On top of this, my DD has improved, has great life experiences already, and loves the sport.

You can keep on with ignorant absolute statements about having the 2 greatest coaches in the world, the accusation of how every coach and program is doing it wrong, and pump up your imaginary dream of a free solution that will solve all the problems.

The truth is, what is right for some is not right for all. What you are describing has been tried and the results have been seen. If you pull your head out and come back to reality, you may really help some players - but saying it is the answer for everyone is comical.

Blank, I don't want to sound gay-ish, but I love you. Perfect response.

Sign up and let your kids just play. No. Really. Just play. For free. No coaching. Silly leagues. Go out and kick around. We have vests and cones. Plus... some national team players to watch you. None excel beyond those that are observed. Plato didn't say that. But still. Don't compete or play in leagues or tournaments. Just scrimmage. Seriously. Just scrimmage. When SC break down your door at 2am and state "where for art that dd that scrimmage-ith and do nothing but?" Then so shall ye reap what you haven't sown.

Revolution.

Shoot. Crap tv show of the same name in no way involved. Probably.

the7wolf wrote:

Blank, I don't want to sound gay-ish, but I love you. Perfect response.

Too late

Surprised no commentary after the US defeat of Germany? I just got a chance to watch it on espn3 today, and granted it was Germany's B team vs. our A team, but until our 2nd half subs came in we looked pretty darn good. I've been hard on Altidore for a few years, but it's clear getting out of the states has done wonders for his game. That one-time volley for the lead off goal was pure quality.

And please start naming names next time the Beasley should retire chorus starts up. Soon as he went off Germany got a free pass down our left flank and nearly came back and won the game as a result. I haven't seen any better left back options suited up this year in a u.s. kit.

Nice Job last night. 

They looked like a totally different team.
Passing, Possession, attacking in the upper third, pressuring the whole game.
They had the total package last night.   Why can't they play like that all the time.

I was able to watch the whole 90 minutes without having to take a break.

Nice JOB USA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Its Me wrote:Nice Job last night. 

They looked like a totally different team.
Passing, Possession, attacking in the upper third, pressuring the whole game.
They had the total package last night.   Why can't they play like that all the time.

I was able to watch the whole 90 minutes without having to take a break.

Nice JOB USA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Agreed.  This team leaves me scratching my head sometimes with their inconsistency.  They were good enough against a German team full of second-stringers but excellent last night.  Congratulations to them all.