Who's playing in the hurst 3 vs 3 live

So riddle me this: what do we all do, as parents, to ensure our kids get to have a good time enjoying 3v3 and enjoying what 3v3 was intended for? How do we, the parents, help build a fun environment and push out all that BS that has apparently overtaken that which was supposed to be a fun learning environment? I'm open to hypotheticals but sure would be cool if there were some real resolutions to the issue at hand before 3v3 is no longer any fun... I'm gonna bet the bigger tournaments like KickIt and 3v3 Live would be open to hearing ideas cause I'm sure they don't want their money machines to come to grinding halt.

Maybe a totally free tournament held on grounds that are donated or volunteered? You play for bragging rights instead of trophies and medals? Still use brackets and the lot but make it all about the fun of playing instead of what you get to take home afterwards... Who's up for something like that? Leave money and trophies out of the equation and only collect if there is a field rental - in that case all players would pay like $2 or $3 to play instead of $25 - $50.

My guess is there would be limited takers cause why play if there's nothing to play for right? That would be a parents mentality.

SoccaDad wrote:So riddle me this: what do we all do, as parents, to ensure our kids get to have a good time enjoying 3v3 and enjoying what 3v3 was intended for?  

Get the parents to drop them off and go home. Let the kids coach themselves. They'll do just fine.  

Gunner9 wrote:

SoccaDad wrote:So riddle me this: what do we all do, as parents, to ensure our kids get to have a good time enjoying 3v3 and enjoying what 3v3 was intended for?  

Get the parents to drop them off and go home.  Let the kids coach themselves.  They'll do just fine.   

Better advice has never been spoken (uhh or written). The only problems with the system are the parents. Your DD doesn't need anything from you to play 3v3 soccer, deal with it and find something productive to do.

fever used to do a pick up 3v3 on the weekend that was tons of fun.

Gunner9 wrote:

SoccaDad wrote:So riddle me this: what do we all do, as parents, to ensure our kids get to have a good time enjoying 3v3 and enjoying what 3v3 was intended for?  

Get the parents to drop them off and go home.  Let the kids coach themselves.  They'll do just fine.   

At least have a 30 yard buffer zone from field to parents. When your DD tells you to move back so she can take the kick you just might be too close. It's the one thing about indoor I like, side boards and glass. The kids simply can't hear the parents.

db10 wrote:

Gunner9 wrote:

SoccaDad wrote:So riddle me this: what do we all do, as parents, to ensure our kids get to have a good time enjoying 3v3 and enjoying what 3v3 was intended for?  

Get the parents to drop them off and go home.  Let the kids coach themselves.  They'll do just fine.   

At least have a 30 yard buffer zone from field to parents. When your DD tells you to move back so she can take the kick you just might be too close. It's the one thing about indoor I like, side boards and glass. The kids simply can't hear the parents.

True that, except the really loud ones that find a way to get their voice heard OVER the glass barrier...

Personally what I would be in favor of at the academy level is play league games on Saturdays and then have club days on Sunday. On the club day you have the coaches in club show up at reservered fields and you have all your 04 teams show up as well. It's just like any game, everyone needs to be there. Then have the coaches split the teams up and have the coaches ref and coach the games. Find a way to make it fun again, heck how easy would it be one week to have a game where all defenders are moved to mids, all mids to forwards and all forwards to defense. It's way to freaking earlier to specialize in a position so take the time now to expose them to as many different positions as possible. It's the ones that specialize that generally end up out of the game because after a while there are only so many forwards playing and if all you've ever done is play forward switching around later might not be as easy as you think.

This would totally eliminate the whole bragging ascpect of winning from the parents, heck it would be ideal if the parents would just leave the fields but that's not going to happen, and just lets kids play the game.

At this point it would be easy to pick out the crazy parents from the ones that truly do want their kids to develop and enjoy the game. The typical response from the crazy parent to something like this is, "I pay my money so I need to have a say in everything that's going on with my daughters soccer experience" much like I'm sure they review every movie they let their kids watch, sit in on every class the kid has to take at school, etc... The reality is they just want to make sure they can yell at their daughter to run harder, kick it harder, and be physical every waking moment

love the club day idea

This idea could be reality sooner than you think! Academy teams within large clubs will play leagues within the club only. Get ready for the future I see academy changes coming. Tournament teams will be formed from the club academy leagues to represent.

Soccer Po Boy wrote:

Master Bates wrote:

SoccaDad wrote:

Master Bates wrote:

SoccaDad wrote:

Master Bates wrote:

RASE or Honey Badgers?

I'm going to assume RASE cause the words "sore loser" were used in that statement and RASE never lost a match so likely they meant they weren't that impressed with RASE.  

Well you were impressed enough to proclaim one of them the best player in the 04 age group in a previous quote! Would be interested to know which team you are associated with cos I heard they killed everyone.

What????  I was agreeing with your statement - read what I wrote and again and then get back to me...  I was putting his statement into perspective as you were asking which team he was talking about - based on his use of words I was assuming it was RASE and he was associated with one of the Odyssey teams.

That was aimed at Soccapeeps who is obviously a Galaxy or Honey Badgers parent.

Honey badgers never played RASE Saturday.  So I don't think they would be "sore" losers.  Probably the Galaxy coach.  If so, he should probably worry about being "prepared" for other teams first.  Like any other one they played this weekend.

Galaxy Coach here... the above quote of not from me or any of our parents. We played RASE and knew what we were in for. We lost 7-2, I think, but it could have been worse as they lighten up in the 2nd half. I don't see how anyone could say they were not impressed. Not only were they good as a team, but then they isolated you 1v1, and get you like that as well. I love my girls playing against teams like this. Also fair to mention that their parents were great and cheered at appropiate times and with class.

I know I will catch some flack for this but here goes

In regards to the coaches and parents yelling at there kids (and I am just as guilty to). Except for this 3v3 i have been doing well with positive feedback and not critizing my DD. But our Honey Badgers are in a slump. Well be back in form soon hopefully.

Back to the point - I am a big proponent of not asking my daughter to do anything i wouldnt do. So i started playing indoor/outdoor 2 to 3 years ago. It will give you some perspective of what they go thru on the field. I would love to see some of these coaches or parents play in a 3v3 environment or indoor/outdoor. They will notice real quick that it is not easy. It does amaze me sometimes that we yell at our kids like they are gladiators in roman times. Or we criticize them harshly for there mistakes.

Maybe we should put together a 3v3 for parents/coaches and let the kids yell at us and criticize our mistakes.

freakingenius wrote:
Back to the point - I am a big proponent of not asking my daughter to do anything i wouldnt do. So i started playing indoor/outdoor 2 to 3 years ago. It will give you some perspective of what they go thru on the field. I would love to see some of these coaches or parents play in a 3v3 environment or indoor/outdoor. They will notice real quick that it is not easy. It does amaze me sometimes that we yell at our kids like they are gladiators in roman times. Or we criticize them harshly for there mistakes.

I took an adult Coerver class for this reason last spring. Pullbacks, step overs, etc etc look easy, shouldn't be a problem. Kicked my a$$; mine, my husband's, and that of a teammate's dad who took the class with us. Now I don't yell at my kids for not using skills in games; I have much more respect for how difficult they are to just plain execute, much less use under pressure.

freakingenius wrote:I know I will catch some flack for this but here goes

In regards to the coaches and parents yelling at there kids (and I am just as guilty to). Except for this 3v3 i have been doing well with positive feedback and not critizing my DD. But our Honey Badgers are in a slump. Well be back in form soon hopefully.

Back to the point - I am a big proponent of not asking my daughter to do anything i wouldnt do. So i started playing indoor/outdoor 2 to 3 years ago. It will give you some perspective of what they go thru on the field. I would love to see some of these coaches or parents play in a 3v3 environment or indoor/outdoor. They will notice real quick that it is not easy. It does amaze me sometimes that we yell at our kids like they are gladiators in roman times. Or we criticize them harshly for there mistakes.

Maybe we should put together a 3v3 for parents/coaches and let the kids yell at us and criticize our mistakes.

Couldn't agree more with anything you say - so true . . .  my observation is that some of the most intense, loud parents are the ones that could benefit most from playing in a 3v3 tournament, or just going to a gym.  Not sure if they are deriving their own value from how their DDs play or what, but some of the 'smoothest, calmest' parents I know are also pretty fit and athletic - my guess is they have their own fitness goals they are working towards and don't have to live through their DDs.  I am sure there are exceptions to these observations, but it seems to play out time and time again.  Loud parents need to exercise their bodies and not their mouths.  Let's build our DDs confidence and not destroy it through obnoxious behavior.

Have a great 4th everyone!  Just remember, you don't have to scream at your DD if she doesn't light her sparkler correctly

soccerpapa2 wrote:

Soccer Po Boy wrote:

Master Bates wrote:

SoccaDad wrote:

Master Bates wrote:

SoccaDad wrote:

I'm going to assume RASE cause the words "sore loser" were used in that statement and RASE never lost a match so likely they meant they weren't that impressed with RASE.  

Well you were impressed enough to proclaim one of them the best player in the 04 age group in a previous quote! Would be interested to know which team you are associated with cos I heard they killed everyone.

What????  I was agreeing with your statement - read what I wrote and again and then get back to me...  I was putting his statement into perspective as you were asking which team he was talking about - based on his use of words I was assuming it was RASE and he was associated with one of the Odyssey teams.

That was aimed at Soccapeeps who is obviously a Galaxy or Honey Badgers parent.

Honey badgers never played RASE Saturday.  So I don't think they would be "sore" losers.  Probably the Galaxy coach.  If so, he should probably worry about being "prepared" for other teams first.  Like any other one they played this weekend.

Galaxy Coach here... the above quote of not from me or any of our parents.  We played RASE and knew what we were in for.  We lost 7-2, I think, but it could have been worse as they lighten up in the 2nd half.  I don't see how anyone could say they were not impressed.  Not only were they good as a team, but then they isolated you 1v1, and get you like that as well.  I love my girls playing against teams like this.  Also fair to mention that their parents were great and cheered at appropiate times and with class.

Totally agree. My interaction with RASE parents have always been positive . . . I wonder if there is a correlation with their DDs play and their general demeanor? I am sure some of them have their moments, but I have always been impressed with how their DDs play and how the parents carry themselves.

Also, I totally agree with the Galaxy coach. I wish RASE would play in more 3v3s in their own age group . . . it would help the rest of our teams improve and be challenged. Plus, you never know when the 1980 Miracle on Ice might happen in 9 year old NTX girl 3v3 soccer and an upset occur

Quick question: Do we know what the final score of the RASE vs Dalglish game was in the Final? I am sure it was a competitive but respectful game.

It was not close.  Dalglish beat Cobra Kai by one goal in the semis. Cobra Kai beat TX Spirit by one goal for third place. RASE beat everybody by comfortable margins.  Agree the RASE parents are a class act.

2good4u wrote:It was not close.  Dalglish beat Cobra Kai by one goal in the semis.  Cobra Kai beat TX Spirit by one goal for third place.  RASE beat everybody by comfortable margins.  Agree the RASE parents are a class act.

Great players and classy parents!!  It's very easy to be gracious when you always win. They certainly may be be a gracious bunch either way, but I'll reserve judgement until they start losing to 04s (not that it's going to happen anytime soon)

Soccapeeps wrote:

2good4u wrote:It was not close.  Dalglish beat Cobra Kai by one goal in the semis.  Cobra Kai beat TX Spirit by one goal for third place.  RASE beat everybody by comfortable margins.  Agree the RASE parents are a class act.

Great players and classy parents!!  It's very easy to be gracious when you always win. They certainly may be be a gracious bunch either way, but I'll reserve judgement until they start losing to 04s (not that it's going to happen anytime soon)

So not great players or classy parents? I suggest you change your Avatar, one handball aside, TH would disapprove of you!

I am not pointing this to any team but my perpective is generally parrents remain classy as long as they are winning. Once the losing starts they tend to change.

FCsoccer1 wrote:I am not pointing this to any team but my perpective is generally parrents remain classy as long as they are winning.   Once the losing starts they tend to change.

Unfortunately I have to agree with this completely... and I do say, unfortunately.

FCsoccer1 wrote:I am not pointing this to any team but my perpective is generally parrents remain classy as long as they are winning.   Once the losing starts they tend to change.

Change how?  I'm guess parents will start yelling/screaming obnoxious remarks at the opposing team because of a few losses??

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