Re: QT Brackets Posted

by justme76 23/07/13, 11:33 am

Sparta vs Suarez round 3-- Thursday
Must win for both squads before they square off with DTS
Sparta speed and improved defense should make things interesting.
Suarez always plays fast and strong
DTS is an overall power

by Guest 23/07/13, 11:36 am

Barca wrote:
Started from the bottom wrote:Yes, Bracket B is called ooh wee!!!! FCD Premier basically has a cake walk. So, how would the 2nd round match-ups look like if all favorites win?

I like your spot also. You never know what you get with Sting West.
Three ties this weekend alone. I won't be surprised if you are not playing in the 2nd weekend! Good luck!

We like it too!!! Thanks!!! Now, we were expecting to see them. We hope we are done in the first week as well. Also, the ties didn't concern us as much as the goals.

by lochwoodinvestments 23/07/13, 11:58 am

Im going to take the bait gopher...Its amazing how much our style of play has been criticize over the last few months. I apologize that our kids are some what bigger, faster, and more athletic then a lot of the teams we've played. Yeah youre right our style play is different, we don't play a possession style of soccer, unfortunately we play to our strength which has been effective for us. Im starting to think that this isn't about soccer anymore when it comes to our team...We are not complaining about our seeding....however you and everybody else know its BS...

by Barca 23/07/13, 12:14 pm

lochwoodinvestments wrote:Im going to take the bait gopher...Its amazing how much our style of play has been criticize over the last few months. I apologize that our kids are some what bigger, faster, and more athletic then a lot of the teams we've played. Yeah youre right our style play is different, we don't play a possession style of soccer, unfortunately we play to our strength which has been effective for us. Im starting to think that this isn't about soccer anymore when it comes to our team...We are not complaining about our seeding....however you and everybody else know its BS...

Don't get the the gophers confused. The Real Gophers was giving you props for your hard work. Fake gophers is just hating. Play to your strengths... No one can argue with the results. Skills and possession soccer can be coached. I just hope you guys make it through because you are more deserving than some of the others who got an easier seeding. Good luck!

by bigtex75081 23/07/13, 12:17 pm

In the 13 brackets there are 26 #1s and #2s... Of those 26 teams, are there any that could be eliminated after the first weekend?

There are also 26 #3s and #4s... Of those 26 teams, if you had to put your money on a "dark horse", which of them has the best chance of winning their bracket in the first weekend and avoiding the second weekend entirely?

by 007shaken 23/07/13, 12:23 pm

I don't think any of the 3's and 4's will win the first week bracket, but if I had to pick a dark horse, Odyssey fits the bill.

by Guest 23/07/13, 12:28 pm

Barca wrote:
lochwoodinvestments wrote:Im going to take the bait gopher...Its amazing how much our style of play has been criticize over the last few months. I apologize that our kids are some what bigger, faster, and more athletic then a lot of the teams we've played. Yeah youre right our style play is different, we don't play a possession style of soccer, unfortunately we play to our strength which has been effective for us. Im starting to think that this isn't about soccer anymore when it comes to our team...We are not complaining about our seeding....however you and everybody else know its BS...

Don't get the the gophers confused. The Real Gophers was giving you props for your hard work. Fake gophers is just hating. Play to your strengths... No one can argue with the results. Skills and possession soccer can be coached. I just hope you guys make it through because you are more deserving than some of the others who got an easier seeding. Good luck!

That's inaccurate. I'm not hating at all. I believe that FCD. Saurez is an very dangerous team....and as I said previously, I would not want to play them. They are extremely athletic.
But, unlike Barca, I'm not going to blow smoke up their arse either.
The have zero possession and they're are very physical.
Deserving of better seed: yes, good soccer: no

by Barca 23/07/13, 12:44 pm

bigtex75081 wrote:In the 13 brackets there are 26 #1s and #2s... Of those 26 teams, are there any that could be eliminated after the first weekend?

There are also 26 #3s and #4s... Of those 26 teams, if you had to put your money on a "dark horse", which of them has the best chance of winning their bracket in the first weekend and avoiding the second weekend entirely?

Best chance:
LP Barnes over Sting West

Long Shots:
Sting Goodman over LP Rush
Fever over Mutiny

All others #1's are locks.

by Till-I-Collapse 23/07/13, 12:54 pm

bwgophers_carl wrote:
Barca wrote:
lochwoodinvestments wrote:Im going to take the bait gopher...Its amazing how much our style of play has been criticize over the last few months. I apologize that our kids are some what bigger, faster, and more athletic then a lot of the teams we've played. Yeah youre right our style play is different, we don't play a possession style of soccer, unfortunately we play to our strength which has been effective for us. Im starting to think that this isn't about soccer anymore when it comes to our team...We are not complaining about our seeding....however you and everybody else know its BS...

Don't get the the gophers confused. The Real Gophers was giving you props for your hard work. Fake gophers is just hating. Play to your strengths... No one can argue with the results. Skills and possession soccer can be coached. I just hope you guys make it through because you are more deserving than some of the others who got an easier seeding. Good luck!

That's inaccurate. I'm not hating at all. I believe that FCD. Saurez is an very dangerous team....and as I said previously, I would not want to play them. They are extremely athletic.
But, unlike Barca, I'm not going to blow smoke up their arse either.
The have zero possession and they're are very physical.
Deserving of better seed: yes, good soccer: no

I'm a firm believer of just show up and play the games but I have to ask. Ugly soccer but deserves a higher seed, really? Why? lol

by Barca 23/07/13, 12:54 pm

bwgophers_carl wrote:
Barca wrote:
lochwoodinvestments wrote:Im going to take the bait gopher...Its amazing how much our style of play has been criticize over the last few months. I apologize that our kids are some what bigger, faster, and more athletic then a lot of the teams we've played. Yeah youre right our style play is different, we don't play a possession style of soccer, unfortunately we play to our strength which has been effective for us. Im starting to think that this isn't about soccer anymore when it comes to our team...We are not complaining about our seeding....however you and everybody else know its BS...

Don't get the the gophers confused. The Real Gophers was giving you props for your hard work. Fake gophers is just hating. Play to your strengths... No one can argue with the results. Skills and possession soccer can be coached. I just hope you guys make it through because you are more deserving than some of the others who got an easier seeding. Good luck!

That's inaccurate. I'm not hating at all. My bad. I believe that FCD. Saurez is an very dangerous team....and as I said previously, I would not want to play them. They are extremely athletic. Agreed
But, unlike Barca, I'm not going to blow smoke up their arse either.
The have zero possession and they're are very physical. Deserving of better seed: yes, good soccer: no Never said it was good soccer. I just agreed that it gets results & was effective for them. Like I said, skills and possession soccer can be coached. This is what I would expect from my coach if I were on this team.

by Barca 23/07/13, 01:13 pm

Till-I-Collapse wrote:
I'm a firm believer of just show up and play the games but I have to ask. Ugly soccer but deserves a higher seed, really? Why? lol

Apparently you have not been watching much soccer lately.
Apart from the top 5 teams, the level of play and cleanliness of the game begins to deteriorate (gets uglier) the further you go down the rankings. We are splitting hairs here in just saying that FC Dallas South Blue should have been seeded closer to their FBR ranking at 18. That is my only point. Just for the record, my dd does not play for this team.

I'm more pissed off at the fact that this may be one of the week two brackets per bwgophers in an earlier post:
Mustangs- FBR 30
AYSES- FBR 35
Warriors- FBR 37
FWFC White- FBR 28
With one of those teams assured a D1 spot.

Don't worry, our team will fight hard and see where the chips fall. We are not afraid to play anyone.

by rtsafft 23/07/13, 01:26 pm

Gophers correct me if I am wrong, are these the potential week 2 matchups if the games played out precisely to seeding:

Bracket S
Fever United
Triumph Aguero
Sparta
Sting East

Bracket T
Dallas Texans
Andromeda
Sting Skaife
Sting Garrett

Bracket U
Dallas Rush
FCD South Blue
Evolution
FC Premier

Bracket V
FWFC Black
DT South Red
GSSC Thunder
Sting Larry

Bracket W
Sting Goodman
Cosmos
Solar Chelsea
TX Lightening

Bracket X
LP Barnes
Sting Sanchez
Odyssey
DTFW

Bracket Y
Ayses
Mustangs
Warriors
FWFC White

by Guest 23/07/13, 01:31 pm

Barca wrote:
Till-I-Collapse wrote:
I'm a firm believer of just show up and play the games but I have to ask. Ugly soccer but deserves a higher seed, really? Why? lol

Apparently you have not been watching much soccer lately.
Apart from the top 5 teams, the level of play and cleanliness of the game begins to deteriorate (gets uglier) the further you go down the rankings. We are splitting hairs here in just saying that FC Dallas South Blue should have been seeded closer to their FBR ranking at 18. That is my only point. Just for the record, my dd does not play for this team.

I'm more pissed off at the fact that this may be one of the week two brackets per bwgophers in an earlier post:
Mustangs- FBR 30
AYSES- FBR 35
Warriors- FBR 37
FWFC White- FBR 28
With one of those teams assured a D1 spot.

Don't worry, our team will fight hard and see where the chips fall. We are not afraid to play anyone.

Wow!!! What a "weak" 2 bracket. Well someone has been praying!!! Good luck to ALL teams, and just as someone stated earlier---- the cream will rise to the top regardless of who the play!!!

by Till-I-Collapse 23/07/13, 01:36 pm

Barca wrote:
Till-I-Collapse wrote:
I'm a firm believer of just show up and play the games but I have to ask. Ugly soccer but deserves a higher seed, really? Why? lol

Apparently you have not been watching much soccer lately.
Apart from the top 5 teams, the level of play and cleanliness of the game begins to deteriorate (gets uglier) the further you go down the rankings. We are splitting hairs here in just saying that FC Dallas South Blue should have been seeded closer to their FBR ranking at 18. That is my only point. Just for the record, my dd does not play for this team.

I'm more pissed off at the fact that this may be one of the week two brackets per bwgophers in an earlier post:
Mustangs- FBR 30
AYSES- FBR 35
Warriors- FBR 37
FWFC White- FBR 28
With one of those teams assured a D1 spot.

Don't worry, our team will fight hard and see where the chips fall. We are not afraid to play anyone.

I've been watching plenty of soccer. Enough to know that there are plenty of teams ranked between 6-30 who actually do not rely on one big, quick or stud athlete up top to boot the ball to. I have more respect for the teams who are coached to make passes, use skill and simply play the game regardless of a win or loss. At this age the focus should be on growing and developing the individual players and the team as a whole and not focused on needing a win so "send it" to the player who can convert and ignore the remaining players on the field. I do not agree with that type of mentality so I found it funny that someone would say "bad soccer, yes but deserves better seed".

I agree that the bracket that will give 1 of those teams a D1 spot is not a good thing. It certainly won't help any of those teams or the players that make them up. Just imagine the type of season those 10 year olds will have if any of them make D1.

by outonthelimb 23/07/13, 01:41 pm

Barca wrote:
bigtex75081 wrote:In the 13 brackets there are 26 #1s and #2s... Of those 26 teams, are there any that could be eliminated after the first weekend?

There are also 26 #3s and #4s... Of those 26 teams, if you had to put your money on a "dark horse", which of them has the best chance of winning their bracket in the first weekend and avoiding the second weekend entirely?
Best chance:
LP Barnes over Sting West

Long Shots:
Sting Goodman over LP Rush
Fever over Mutiny

All others #1's are locks.

I would agree with you here with a minor adjustment

I think Fever has to be tinkled pink for the backhanded yet great draw they received. I think they have a better chance at beating Mutiny than any other #2 seed does over a #1 seed. Mutiny's tie vs Sting West in Tut was a very one-sided affair save for the one breakdown. Take that tie away and it was an extremely poor showing for Mutiny. Honestly I think this one is where the QT committee peaked at BW's paper and copied his answer regarding Mutiny. They couldn't have arrived at that seed based on seeing them play or looking back at the leagues they've played in.

Additionally I think Goodman vs Rush could get bloody....two very aggressive team. It may come down to who scored more against the rest of the pool and I'd give Goodman the slight edge there.

by Till-I-Collapse 23/07/13, 01:46 pm

Does LH reserve the right to change up the brackets in week 2? Have they ever done that in the past?

by layinlow 23/07/13, 02:22 pm

BW, I have a question on the 2nd weekend seeding you posted. Let's say H4 finishes 2nd in H, would they be in the H2 slot for week 2? I don't even know who's in the H's, I'm just using that as an example.

IMO, after watching Ayses play I would that they are way over seated. Who have they beaten to move past all of the teams they moved past? They beat some teams in the 40s and 50s but who in the low 20 range? I'm willing to bet Odssey is licking their chops to get Ayses as their 2 seed. Especially since they just beat them last month when they played.

by 9876 23/07/13, 03:08 pm

Good luck to all of teams this weekend. I have no rooting interest and I am a relative newbie to NTX select soccer, however my daughter's team went through this fiasco last year. As I knew nothing about the process, I found myself stressed about stuff that didn't matter so I thought I would pass on some observations:

1) The first week really doesn't matter:

A) Almost all(if not all) #1 seeds won their bracket. If a #1 seed didn't win their bracket they definately qualified for D1 the second week. In retrospect, I would give top 10 or so teams an automatic bye into D1(they are going to get there anyways), so you have more games to determine bottom of D1 vs D3 and D3 vs non LH.
B) No team that had any chance of competing well in LH D3 was eliminated the first week. This year's group is larger however last year there were still quite a number of teams that wouldn't be able to compete effectively in D3 still playing the 2nd week.
C) If your team really isn't one of the top 15 in the area, you really don't want to be in D1. 20 teams qualify, you play every team once and the bottom few just get beat up every single week. I guarantee almost all (if not all) of d3 enjoyed their seasons more than the bottom 2-4 teams in D1.
D) All of the bad seedings really don't impact anyone until week 2. In week 2, some of the teams that were under seeded because some "soccer snob" didn't like their style of play are 3rd or 4th seed in their week 2 bracket, but is able to finish ahead of (and prevent) another deserved team of qualifying. In contrast there will be some team(s) that just has to effectively beat a rec team in week 2 to qualify.
E) I guess my biggest message is that these are very stressful weeks for everyone involved including your DDs. Don't make it anymore stressful than it needs to be. Your DD will perform better.

If I had to do it overall again I would have just enjoyed the soccer in week 1 and not worried about the results. If you are a LH bubble team, hope for some good luck in week 2. If you happen to have bad luck and don't qualify, you are still only talking about 18 games next fall/spring in Plano vs LH. 5 or 6 of those games will be against good teams, and you will probably play another 20 or so games in tournaments against any caliber of team you wish to compete against. So the point is you can still play against good competition for about 66% of your games.

by Guest 23/07/13, 03:54 pm

Till-I-Collapse wrote:Does LH reserve the right to change up the brackets in week 2? Have they ever done that in the past?

LH can pretty much do whatever they want. However, in the past 3 years the brackets for the 2nd week have been determined in the same manner to what I posted earlier in this thread, which is based on the week 1 results. LH may shuffle a small # of week 2 #4 seeds (although I think last year they may have also swapped a couple of #3 seeds) in order to avoid any week 1 rematches in week 2. However, with only 2 4th place week 1 teams moving on to week #2 this year, shuffling will be less likely. Even when they have shuffled these teams, they typically only move 1 or 2 brackets at the most.

layinlow wrote:BW, I have a question on the 2nd weekend seeding you posted. Let's say H4 finishes 2nd in H, would they be in the H2 slot for week 2? I don't even know who's in the H's, I'm just using that as an example.

YES. In my posting "H2" refers to the team in week 1 Bracket H, that scores the 2nd most points in the week 1 games.

by sendit 23/07/13, 04:29 pm

I am trying to recall the great explanation in a thread about a month ago regarding how the 2nd week of qualifying is determined as far as who gets in. If 13 get in during week 1, is it 1st and 2nd place finishers in week 2 get in?

Be nice, I am a newbie here and just trying to find my way.

by sendit 23/07/13, 04:32 pm

got it. Getting better at this.

http://www.girlsclassicleague.net/2013QTFormatsfinal.pdf

by Guest 23/07/13, 04:38 pm

gimeemore wrote:I am trying to recall the great explanation in a thread about a month ago regarding how the 2nd week of qualifying is determined as far as who gets in. If 13 get in during week 1, is it 1st and 2nd place finishers in week 2 get in?

Be nice, I am a newbie here and just trying to find my way.

13 first place finishers in week 1 + 7 1st place finishers in week 2 will make D1 supergroup.
7 second place teams in week 2 + 3 teams with next highest point totals will make D3.

11 teams with lowest point totals in week 1 will be eliminated after week 1.
11 teams with lowest point totals in week 2 will be eliminated after week 2.

by RightWingDad 23/07/13, 05:01 pm

However it shakes out, good luck to everyone. Hopefully most of us will remember to make some memories and enjoy the ride...win, lose or draw. Except for the heat, these are great opportunities to have fun with others and enjoy a few life lessons.

Now, off to practice...com'on clouds.

by ddgonz22 24/07/13, 08:36 am

Soccer at its best.. Every team will bring it this weekend no matter what seed or bracket.yuh.

by GrandTXSoccer 24/07/13, 09:55 am

Be prepared for games much closer than normal. I've always noticed that teams tend to pack it back in the box and hope to send a long ball in the hopes of catching someone out of place when it comes to qualifying. It can make for some ugly soccer.

by BallControl_02 24/07/13, 12:32 pm

My DD is an 02--Having gone through this last year, I can honestly say:

1. If you are a top seed don't assume it will be an easy weekend. The lower ranked teams bring it and regardless if they stack their defense or not (which unfortunately they do), the scores are unexpectedly pretty narrow.
2. There is ALWAYS a MAJOR upset. Who will it be? Ya'll will all have to wait and see, but trust me, it will happen.
3. The top 10 seed spots, historically, almost always claim their D1 spots in the first weekend.

All you have to do is win your bracket. Also, the pressure is outrageous. Our first game in QT last year was a nightmare even though we were slated to win without worry (we played a team ranked 45+ spots below us). Keep your girls calm and let the coaches do their jobs. The less pressure you put on them and the more relaxed they are, the better they will do and the better your team will do as a whole. Yeah, yeah....I know it's hard. But I'm speaking from experience!!

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