Michael Brown Winter Classic

FCsoccer1 wrote:People people people... this tournament as it was called was a friendly...  No cups or medals won, there may have been a coach or two trying to win the game... but everyone played and played different positions.  No one should take anything from this tournament.

Agree 100%, I watched a lot of games and most of the coaches moved girls around in different positions as they should at this age, this is a warm up tournament for the Spring Season, I wish more tournaments had this structure.  Great competition this weekend and thumbs up to the coaches that didn't give in to the pressures to win and stuck to their guns of letting girls work thru the challenges of new positions against top competition.  It is easy to play a new position when your up 5-0 on a team, whole different level when it is a 0-0 game and you put a player at center back or center forward that hasn't played that position before or not their "Primary" position.

Yesterday's news today's toilet paper. Let's talk about something new, perhaps this coming weekends matchups. Kix...anything, anything?

Cleansheets wrote:Yesterday's news today's toilet paper. Let's talk about something new, perhaps this coming weekends matchups. Kix...anything, anything?

Im not counting out Sting East but DTS/TXSpirit Clark rematch is what I predict for the medal....again. Might as well start a new thread with a challenge...civil debate.



yeah right...that ish aint happening!!

From the little that I saw this weekend there were quite a few kids being moved around and starters riding pine while others got some extra touches. Now that wasn't the case for every team and I don't know if it impacted the outcome of some of the games some folks seem to be all bent out of shape about but they were friendlies so I think some folks need to chill. Speaking of chill, any results from Thursday and Friday should just be taken with a grain of salt because honestly it was so flipping cold that nothing would have shocked me. Heck I heard some kids missed their next games because of weather related injuries. My hat's off to all the kids and parents that went out and played in that weather on Thursday and Friday. Any parent bragging or bagging because of some result from that night is a moron.

Now a few things of note to help someone get some facts straight. When RASE 04 beat RASE 03 and FCD Gold, both were Top 5, heck I think both of those teams have been Top 5 for the last year or so in the 03 group with each taking their turn as the 2nd best team in the age group. Now they also lost to some 03 teams that weren't all that great and I think that the 05 Pulp team will run into the same problem simply because the gap in size and speed catches up to you in some games no matter how good you are. The gap in the 04's is not shrinking and most likely will not shrink between RASE and the rest of the 04's anytime soon.

From what I can tell RASE 04 (eventually Elite) will be much better than the (or at least more dominant) than the current version of SRSA 03. Now if SRSA 03 still had their full roster including the top players that are now playing up it's a different story, but heck put those girls on the 30th best 03 team and they would eventually find their way to the top. There are no 04 players that I've seen yet that can match what they do and that's not a knock on any of the 04's more of a testimant to how good those girls can play. So with that being said I don't see RASE 04 losing any girls to Elite 03 after they have gone select so that squad should continue to get better.

Also, if you truly believe that clubs are going to start pooling players at this age to make better teams then you are completely in the dark as to how these folks work. The Texans, FCD, Sting, and LP didn't combine or pool one thing to make their top 03 teams and I haven't heard of it happening in the 04's and I'm fairly certain it didn't happend in the 02's when they were about to go select. Didn't happen when my DD was going to select years ago either. Sure you might get a player that switches teams inside the club but most of the time it's parent driven because some parent believes their DD is better than the team they are currently on and wants to leave so instead of losing the $$$ the teams lets the join another team in the club. Coaches in general are pretty hands off inside clubs when it comes to their players. Most of the time player movement is parent driven, not club or coach driven.

i like the new avi sheets BTW

I wish we were playing this upcoming week. I think RASE is playing up in PT Winter Blast. I have yet to watch them play and I hear alot of testimonials about their play but specifically one player that they all rave about. I saw SRSA in a futsal tournament this past weekend and their passing was straight precision until it ended with a direct shot on goal. I know that it doesnt compare but you still have to be a sound team to execute like they did. Last time I saw RASE in full action was in '12....its been a minute.

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Soccertime10 wrote:

Lobo_Momma wrote:Disagree with all three of your observations.
1. I thought Dalglish looked good and I like the way they always try to play good soccer. In three of their games they had the ball about 75-80% of the game, they just struggle to finish their many chances and need a forward. They also had 3-4 new players so I guess some gelling is to come. If anything they play too much good soccer when they could easier just kick it up the field. Kids will be better for it in the long run.
2. Are you joking? You don't get out much do you? I looked at the U11 03 Lake Highlands league standings for this past fall and RASE 04 had beaten six of the top eight teams at some point (6 wins, 1 loss, 1 never played). RASE has also finished National Runner Up in 3v3 two years in a row. Only in North Texas soccer could someone find that a badge of dishonor.
3. Don't see it happening. Texans South will never combine with Dallas. FCD and Sting have already pooled talent. And none come close.

1. LFS dominated Dalglish.  

So Im guessing you took time out of your busy schedule on a Thursday night @ 7pm during 20 degree weather (maybe less) to witness this game??  Do tell?

Other Thursday night U10 games played:

SRFC 04G vs. DALLAS RUSH VOUTIER (1-1)
DALLAS TEXANS ACADEMY 04 SCOTT vs. FC DALLAS '04 PREMIER (1-0)
DALLAS RUSH '04 GIRLS - JENSEN vs. FC DALLAS 04G COPA (0-1)

Better yet, you got up from FREEZING your "ARSENAL OFF" from watching one of the Thursday night games above (if you DD plays on one), to come and watch DALGLISH vs. LFS.

Can we all say "BULL-SHE-VIK" !!!

Haha...this thread was about a tournament that RASE didn't even play in...but of course they are the topic of conversation...what a shock

It's laughable how everything always comes back to RASE...every post on here eventually leads to them...they didn't even play in this tournament...they must be doing something right...not even the great SRSA didn't get this much attention for tournaments they didn't even play in

canaryman wrote:Haha...this thread was about a tournament that RASE didn't even play in...but of course they are the topic of conversation...what a shock

Exactly, let's move on to something else.

whats new?....all topics start on subject and eventually morph into the same discussion...never fails. get used to it. its gonna be that way until such and such beats them.

please let's do

 I'm a little more interested in what's going on with my scotties? You guys are making me squirm a little in my seat on the bandwagon.

And dalglish? You know what....Just don't....I can't even look at you right now...How could you?   

Here's something different...how bout those fields? First time observations after going out there to watch:

1. Lots of 'em
2. Full size fields/goals
3. Short grass/flat surface
4. Easy/close parking

Only downside...$5/day for parking.

It's nice to play a set of games where what field you were on had little influence on the outcome of the game.

Ditto, on all points.

Lobo_Momma wrote:Disagree with all three of your observations.
1. I thought Dalglish looked good and I like the way they always try to play good soccer. In three of their games they had the ball about 75-80% of the game, they just struggle to finish their many chances and need a forward. They also had 3-4 new players so I guess some gelling is to come. If anything they play too much good soccer when they could easier just kick it up the field. Kids will be better for it in the long run.
2. Are you joking? You don't get out much do you? I looked at the U11 03 Lake Highlands league standings for this past fall and RASE 04 had beaten six of the top eight teams at some point (6 wins, 1 loss, 1 never played). RASE has also finished National Runner Up in 3v3 two years in a row. Only in North Texas soccer could someone find that a badge of dishonor.
3. Don't see it happening. Texans South will never combine with Dallas. FCD and Sting have already pooled talent. And none come close.

Wow Lobo, when did you start "slumming" with Dalglish?

I watched LP Dalglish play Saturday morning. Very good brand of soccer...ball movement...player movement...nice skills...good speed. They were clicking during that game, and it showed.

Not sure how their play in other weekend games went, but I don't think LP Dalglish is leaving the top 10 anytime soon.

go99 wrote: I'm a little more interested in what's going on with my scotties?  You guys are making me squirm a little in my seat on the bandwagon.

And dalglish?  You know what....Just don't....I can't even look at you right now...How could you?   

Dr. Laura, what is going on with Scott? We're they missing players this weekend? No goals scored in 2 of the 4 games seems odd.

SoccerDad4 wrote:I watched LP Dalglish play Saturday morning.  Very good brand of soccer...ball movement...player movement...nice skills...good speed.  They were clicking during that game, and it showed.

Not sure how their play in other weekend games went, but I don't think LP Dalglish is leaving the top 10 anytime soon.

Definitely not. They'll just pick up some guess players to keep them in line.

Soccertime10 wrote:

Lobo_Momma wrote:Disagree with all three of your observations.
1. I thought Dalglish looked good and I like the way they always try to play good soccer. In three of their games they had the ball about 75-80% of the game, they just struggle to finish their many chances and need a forward. They also had 3-4 new players so I guess some gelling is to come. If anything they play too much good soccer when they could easier just kick it up the field. Kids will be better for it in the long run.
2. Are you joking? You don't get out much do you? I looked at the U11 03 Lake Highlands league standings for this past fall and RASE 04 had beaten six of the top eight teams at some point (6 wins, 1 loss, 1 never played). RASE has also finished National Runner Up in 3v3 two years in a row. Only in North Texas soccer could someone find that a badge of dishonor.
3. Don't see it happening. Texans South will never combine with Dallas. FCD and Sting have already pooled talent. And none come close.

1. LFS dominated Dalglish.  Saw a lot of Kickball from Dalglish this weekend and kickball is not good soccer.  3 to 4 new players?  Sounds like excuses to me.
But good job throwing the Dalglish forwards under the bus.
2. Seriously?  Nice try at spinning things.  It doesn't matter what those 03 teams are currently ranked.  It only matters what they were ranked when you played them, and you never beat or tied a top 4 team like the 05's are doing.
I will give credit to the RASE "B" team for making it to the finals at Disney.  Not sure what happened to the RASE "A" team.
3. Fact- Liverpool is the only club to build twenty 04 teams in order to build a superteam at the academy level.  Fact- RASE is the only team to go out and actively recruit already developed players from all of the other clubs.  Meanwhile other clubs have been developing who they have.  Sting has 3 teams in the top ten.  They could easily put together a superteam to beat RASE.  Sorry, facts are facts.  You are a great team but not even close to being SRSA 03.
It is what it is.  Nothing to be ashamed of.

Not sure we were watching the same game.  LFS did win 1-0, but "dominated" might be a bit strong. They scored on a nice through ball with their forward having enough speed to create separation from the defense.  Other than that possession was about equal with scoring chances on both sides.  

Your response is clearly aimed towards LP, just make sure you don't run over any 9-10 y/o girls to prove your point.

Kmp92702 wrote:

Soccertime10 wrote:

Lobo_Momma wrote:Disagree with all three of your observations.
1. I thought Dalglish looked good and I like the way they always try to play good soccer. In three of their games they had the ball about 75-80% of the game, they just struggle to finish their many chances and need a forward. They also had 3-4 new players so I guess some gelling is to come. If anything they play too much good soccer when they could easier just kick it up the field. Kids will be better for it in the long run.
2. Are you joking? You don't get out much do you? I looked at the U11 03 Lake Highlands league standings for this past fall and RASE 04 had beaten six of the top eight teams at some point (6 wins, 1 loss, 1 never played). RASE has also finished National Runner Up in 3v3 two years in a row. Only in North Texas soccer could someone find that a badge of dishonor.
3. Don't see it happening. Texans South will never combine with Dallas. FCD and Sting have already pooled talent. And none come close.

1. LFS dominated Dalglish.  Saw a lot of Kickball from Dalglish this weekend and kickball is not good soccer.  3 to 4 new players?  Sounds like excuses to me.
But good job throwing the Dalglish forwards under the bus.
2. Seriously?  Nice try at spinning things.  It doesn't matter what those 03 teams are currently ranked.  It only matters what they were ranked when you played them, and you never beat or tied a top 4 team like the 05's are doing.
I will give credit to the RASE "B" team for making it to the finals at Disney.  Not sure what happened to the RASE "A" team.
3. Fact- Liverpool is the only club to build twenty 04 teams in order to build a superteam at the academy level.  Fact- RASE is the only team to go out and actively recruit already developed players from all of the other clubs.  Meanwhile other clubs have been developing who they have.  Sting has 3 teams in the top ten.  They could easily put together a superteam to beat RASE.  Sorry, facts are facts.  You are a great team but not even close to being SRSA 03.
It is what it is.  Nothing to be ashamed of.

Not sure we were watching the same game.  LFS did win 1-0, but "dominated" might be a bit strong. They scored on a nice through ball with their forward having enough speed to create separation from the defense.  Other than that possession was about equal with scoring chances on both sides.  

Your response is clearly aimed towards LP, just make sure you don't run over any 9-10 y/o girls to prove your point.

Dalglish has their faults but no way do they play kickball.

Lobo_Momma wrote:
2. Are you joking? You don't get out much do you? I looked at the U11 03 Lake Highlands league standings for this past fall and RASE 04 had beaten six of the top eight teams at some point (6 wins, 1 loss, 1 never played).

RASE has also lost to some of those same teams and even other 03 teams ranked lower.  RASE 04 is a great team. I wouldn't take that away but be honest and humble.  Before long, many of the other teams will catch up (in size and skill). It will happen.

Till-I-Collapse wrote:

Lobo_Momma wrote:
2. Are you joking? You don't get out much do you? I looked at the U11 03 Lake Highlands league standings for this past fall and RASE 04 had beaten six of the top eight teams at some point (6 wins, 1 loss, 1 never played).

RASE has also lost to some of those same teams and even other 03 teams ranked lower.  RASE 04 is a great team. I wouldn't take that away but be honest and humble.  Before long, many of the other teams will catch up (in size and skill). It will happen.

Ok so what would you say if solar pulp 05's beat DTS04 or Spirit04? There would be lots of shock and then praise. It's the same thing.

Master Bates wrote:

Till-I-Collapse wrote:

Lobo_Momma wrote:
2. Are you joking? You don't get out much do you? I looked at the U11 03 Lake Highlands league standings for this past fall and RASE 04 had beaten six of the top eight teams at some point (6 wins, 1 loss, 1 never played).

RASE has also lost to some of those same teams and even other 03 teams ranked lower.  RASE 04 is a great team. I wouldn't take that away but be honest and humble.  Before long, many of the other teams will catch up (in size and skill). It will happen.

Ok so what would you say if solar pulp 05's beat DTS04 or Spirit04? There would be lots of shock and then praise. It's the same thing.

Right. I agree MB. Just not sure what point LOBo was trying to make other than RASE 04 is better than top 6-7 03 teams and I just don't agree. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose. Does not always mean you have a better team. That's all I was getting at.