04 League Scores 3/28-3/30

Scott, Liverpool and LFS players all out at Stark practice. It's that time!

Wait was that the sound of a dropping gauntlet I just heard?   

Hey if Scott falls apart there are a few scotties that can always come home. Oh and there are a few left footies who can join the party too. Better get my cherry picker out of the garage might be a busy summer

Soccerjunk wrote:

 Hmmm, Stark cherry picking like Scott used to do!

That's 'Johnny Soccer' to you. Cherry picking much easier than developing his own. Speaking of, Pulp's efforts yielding similar results?

go99 wrote:Wait was that the sound of a dropping gauntlet I just heard?   

Hey if Scott falls apart there are a few scotties that can always come home.  Oh and there are a few left footies who can join the party too.  Better get my cherry picker out of the garage might be a busy summer

GO, how big is that RASE roster going to be?

By the sounds of it, 20 deep!

NoSpinZone wrote:

Soccerjunk wrote:

 Hmmm, Stark cherry picking like Scott used to do!

That's 'Johnny Soccer' to you.  Cherry picking much easier than developing his own.  Speaking of, Pulp's efforts yielding similar results?

Sure, Pulp is cherry picking. Nothing wrong with it when Stark and Pulp, or any coach is starting up a new team. How else do you get a team?

Soccerjunk wrote:

NoSpinZone wrote:

Soccerjunk wrote:

 Hmmm, Stark cherry picking like Scott used to do!

That's 'Johnny Soccer' to you.  Cherry picking much easier than developing his own.  Speaking of, Pulp's efforts yielding similar results?

Sure, Pulp is cherry picking. Nothing wrong with it when Stark and Pulp, or any coach is starting up a new team. How else do you get a team?

You go and develop rec players..   

Son_ofa_Pitch wrote:

Soccerjunk wrote:

NoSpinZone wrote:

Soccerjunk wrote:

 Hmmm, Stark cherry picking like Scott used to do!

That's 'Johnny Soccer' to you.  Cherry picking much easier than developing his own.  Speaking of, Pulp's efforts yielding similar results?

Sure, Pulp is cherry picking. Nothing wrong with it when Stark and Pulp, or any coach is starting up a new team. How else do you get a team?

You go and develop rec players..   

  completely agree. IMO, LW, Clark, Missimo, Drake, and Solca are some of the better coaches at developing teams from the ground floor. Then you have the opposite end of the spectrum with coaches like Kennington, Scott and a handful of Sting coaches who build teams at the expense of others

Soccerjunk wrote:

Son_ofa_Pitch wrote:

Soccerjunk wrote:

NoSpinZone wrote:

Soccerjunk wrote:

 Hmmm, Stark cherry picking like Scott used to do!

That's 'Johnny Soccer' to you.  Cherry picking much easier than developing his own.  Speaking of, Pulp's efforts yielding similar results?

Sure, Pulp is cherry picking. Nothing wrong with it when Stark and Pulp, or any coach is starting up a new team. How else do you get a team?

You go and develop rec players..   

  completely agree. IMO, LW, Clark, Missimo, Drake, and Solca are some of the better coaches at developing teams from the ground floor. Then you have the opposite end of the spectrum with coaches like Kennington, Scott and a handful of Sting coaches who build teams at the expense of others

So recruiting and pooling together the top talent to make a dominant team within the age group really "developing teams from the ground floor"?

Recruiting or parents taking their kids to try-out? There's a big difference.

What goes around comes around . You know what they say about karma.

So we are saying that some of the top teams have rosters unaltered over the last 24 months?

Soccerjunk wrote:

Son_ofa_Pitch wrote:

Soccerjunk wrote:

NoSpinZone wrote:

Soccerjunk wrote:

 Hmmm, Stark cherry picking like Scott used to do!

That's 'Johnny Soccer' to you.  Cherry picking much easier than developing his own.  Speaking of, Pulp's efforts yielding similar results?

Sure, Pulp is cherry picking. Nothing wrong with it when Stark and Pulp, or any coach is starting up a new team. How else do you get a team?

You go and develop rec players..   

  completely agree. IMO, LW, Clark, Missimo, Drake, and Solca are some of the better coaches at developing teams from the ground floor. Then you have the opposite end of the spectrum with coaches like Kennington, Scott and a handful of Sting coaches who build teams at the expense of others

Gonna come to the defense of king kenny here. I have always thought his teams are well coached. Don't agree with his use of tactics and his insanity has caused some team to fall apart but I would accuse him of not being able to coach. Don't really know much about scott but recruiting is the texan way.

That being said, If you aren't bringing in talent there is usually a reason why. Either the coach is so loyal and checked by the parents that he is affraid too or its a hostile enviornment to outsiders or nobody is interested because your teams soccer isn't that good so he is stuck with what he has. Can't make chiken salad out of chicken poop. Unless chicken poop is all you have.

soccerjunk - please name one player that LFS has pulled from another team in the last 12 months. Same with DT Scott for that matter...I would say these two teams have done about zero recruiting.

slrsoccer wrote:soccerjunk - please name one player that LFS has pulled from another team in the last 12 months.  Same with DT Scott for that matter...I would say these two teams have done about zero recruiting.

I can name 5 but they say we're not supposed to post names or numbers on this forum... it's indirect, the coach does no formal recruiting of his own, the parents do it all... you know the old word of mouth subtle recruiting / sales tool? Or shall we call it Network Marketing? Either way, the parents talk to a friend and says, "your daughter is a hell of an athlete, you should bring her over to XXXXX practice and check it out". Meanwhile, said team / coach is pulling out all the stops to make the practice look all functional and stuff and the parents get all glassy-eyed and think, "man, this team has it together, they work on [skills, passing, field recognition, etc.] more than our team ever did." So by the essence of true recruiting, not too many coaches do that, but the active parents out there do and aren't even ashamed of it in most aspects. And really, why should they be unless it unseats their own kid from the team. The act of "word of mouth" marketing for your team isn't a bad thing, it brings in the talent for the coach to evaluate. Nothing more. My DD was subject to the same thing by LFS, was accepted to the team and then the revolving door started where there were 20 new kids trying out each week. No recruiting by JK himself at all, in fact, his communication skills leave something to be desired so I doubt he has the wherewithal to do any true recruiting. However, many savvy parents out there are willing to take care of that for him. Recruiting? NO. Network Marketing your team? YES.

  

slrsoccer wrote:soccerjunk - please name one player that LFS has pulled from another team in the last 12 months.  Same with DT Scott for that matter...I would say these two teams have done about zero recruiting.

LOL! Lots! Didn't one recently go from LFS to Scott?

Master Bates wrote:

slrsoccer wrote:soccerjunk - please name one player that LFS has pulled from another team in the last 12 months.  Same with DT Scott for that matter...I would say these two teams have done about zero recruiting.

LOL! Lots! Didn't one recently go from LFS to Scott?

But was that recruiting or just really good parent marketing with a nice "close" by the coach?

SoccerShocker wrote:

slrsoccer wrote:soccerjunk - please name one player that LFS has pulled from another team in the last 12 months.  Same with DT Scott for that matter...I would say these two teams have done about zero recruiting.

I can name 5 but they say we're not supposed to post names or numbers on this forum...  it's indirect, the coach does no formal recruiting of his own, the parents do it all...  you know the old word of mouth subtle recruiting / sales tool?  Or shall we call it Network Marketing?  Either way, the parents talk to a friend and says, "your daughter is a hell of an athlete, you should bring her over to XXXXX practice and check it out".  Meanwhile, said team / coach is pulling out all the stops to make the practice look all functional and stuff and the parents get all glassy-eyed and think, "man, this team has it together, they work on [skills, passing, field recognition, etc.] more than our team ever did."  So by the essence of true recruiting, not too many coaches do that, but the active parents out there do and aren't even ashamed of it in most aspects.  And really, why should they be unless it unseats their own kid from the team.  The act of "word of mouth" marketing for your team isn't a bad thing, it brings in the talent for the coach to evaluate.  Nothing more.  My DD was subject to the same thing by LFS, was accepted to the team and then the revolving door started where there were 20 new kids trying out each week.  No recruiting by JK himself at all, in fact, his communication skills leave something to be desired so I doubt he has the wherewithal to do any true recruiting.  However, many savvy parents out there are willing to take care of that for him.  Recruiting?  NO.  Network Marketing your team?  YES.  

  

Those practices aren't staged for parents. You can go out there any night of the week and see that that's how they go.
As far as the player who left and went to Scott, I don't know who mentioned it, she left on her own and went to Scott on her own.
Sour grapes?? Maybe because your DD wasn't picked up by Joey.   

If you're DD is happy with the coaching, your happy with the coaching, your DD is getting what she needs, your getting what you need as a parent, recruiting / being marketed to won't matter. You only move cause there's something you're not happy about that someone else (coach or club) can fill that void for you - almost sounds like a wretched affair...  

[quote="SoccerShocker"][quote="Master Bates"][quote="slrsoccer"]soccerjunk - please name one player that LFS has pulled from another team in the last 12 months.  Same with DT Scott for that matter...I would say these two teams have done about zero recruiting.[/quote]
LOL! Lots! Didn't one recently go from LFS to Scott?[/quote]

But was that recruiting or just really good parent marketing with a nice "close" by the coach?[/quote]

I think most have heard about the nice "close" with LFS coach and parent which usually results in the team leaving! Agree! Wretched affair!

....ooooohhhh, i see what ya'll did there.    

purezen wrote:

SoccerShocker wrote:

Master Bates wrote:

slrsoccer wrote:soccerjunk - please name one player that LFS has pulled from another team in the last 12 months.  Same with DT Scott for that matter...I would say these two teams have done about zero recruiting.

LOL! Lots! Didn't one recently go from LFS to Scott?

But was that recruiting or just really good parent marketing with a nice "close" by the coach?

I think most have heard about the nice "close" with LFS coach and parent which usually results in the team leaving! Agree! Wretched affair!

At a loss for words, entertained, but at a loss for words...  

purezen wrote:I think most have heard about the nice "close" with LFS coach and parent which usually results in the team leaving! Agree! Wretched affair!

Oh, oh.. wait.. oh... WOW!!! I know where this is going.

Hey now, shouldn't this be moved to the '03 boys forum??

Son_ofa_Pitch wrote:

purezen wrote:I think most have heard about the nice "close" with LFS coach and parent which usually results in the team leaving! Agree! Wretched affair!

Oh, oh..  wait.. oh... WOW!!!  I know where this is going.

I do want to go on record as saying the direction this thread went was not my intention...