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We called, emailed the TD and no response. Anyone have an applied/accepted list?
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textigerfan wrote:Money grab.
Probably correct, but I have questions. These are in no particular order.
1. Why is a non-profit organization (NTSSA) running a money grab? That's probably naive on my part, but I really don't understand it.
2. Who decided this was needed? I don't see the need. There has certainly been somewhere between zero and little noise requesting such a tournament.
3. King Tut, run by FC Dallas and Puma Cup run by Texas Lightning, I'm guessing those have been big money makers for those clubs. Why has the governing body decided to compete with individual clubs for money? In the interest of transparency, I'm not affiliated with either club.
4. This is not related specifically to this topic, but falls more under the question of transparency or lack there of. Statement, not a question.
I BELIEVE THAT ALL OFFICERS, EXECUTIVES, OFFICIALS, AND ADMINISTRATORS OF ANY KIND, IN EVERY LEAGUE AND OR ORGANIZATION (NTSSA, LH, PPL, APL, etc) SHOULD BE REQUIRED TO SHOW WHAT CLUB THEY ARE AFFILIATED WITH.
I'd like to know who runs all this stuff. I'd like to know it at a glance. It seems to be a big secret, which again begs the question, why?
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Pale Rider wrote:
4. This is not related specifically to this topic, but falls more under the question of transparency or lack there of. Statement, not a question.
I BELIEVE THAT ALL OFFICERS, EXECUTIVES, OFFICIALS, AND ADMINISTRATORS OF ANY KIND, IN EVERY LEAGUE AND OR ORGANIZATION (NTSSA, LH, PPL, APL, etc) SHOULD BE REQUIRED TO SHOW WHAT CLUB THEY ARE AFFILIATED WITH.
I'd like to know who runs all this stuff. I'd like to know it at a glance. It seems to be a big secret, which again begs the question, why?
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Pale Rider wrote:textigerfan wrote:Money grab.
3. King Tut, run by FC Dallas and Puma Cup run by Texas Lightning, I'm guessing those have been big money makers for those clubs. Why has the governing body decided to compete with individual clubs for money? In the interest of transparency, I'm not affiliated with either club.
why?
Not only individual clubs, but DUES-PAYING members of North Texas Soccer. Long-time dues-paying members at that. What governing body operates an event to compete directly with it's membership, especially those that have been supporting that governing body for a number of years.
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Mellowski wrote:It will also help teams that played more than half of their games against 05 teams (Primetime Silver) to play against 04 opposition
Of course, those teams could have selected from a multitude of tournaments in May and June to play against challenging 04 competition.
League Challenge Cup had some great 04 competition in all divisions.
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Wouldn't you think that information would/should have been shared prior to this with teams seeking to qualify or re-qualify that essentially if they want better placement in the seeding tournaments they have to play in this tournament?
This sounds almost like hostage taking. So not only do teams have to go through the qualifying tournaments, they also have to go through pre-qualifying tournaments.
I think I have to agree, this is just another money maker - and a tool to use to create seeding without a lot of work. So if teams can't or won't be able to attend, will they go to the bottom of the barrel? Would this perhaps jeopardize teams who would normally be a top contender if they don't attend? What if players are injured during this tournament and can't play in the QT?
My inquiring mind now has a qualifying, err pre-qualifying headache.
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Plus practices.
Will teams who don't participate in King Tut actually have the advantage of not needing to recover from the heat?
Conditioning is important. Beating them down until they can't fully recover to perform doesn't benefit anyone.
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Man, this inquiring mind wants to know!
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My gut tells me that by having all these requirements just a few days after signing (and a holiday weekend)...that everyone that was going to participate was scrambling to get their info from parents to register last night. Now they have to process all the applications and create the schedules/schedule the fields/schedule the refs/etc. in a day or so...eek!
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SFFL5 wrote:The deadline has been pushed back until tomorrow @ 6pm. Site states they are only taking U11 boys and girls teams. Seems to me they are having trouble getting U11 teams to register unless they are giving the teams time to meet requirements
So - July 9 sign-up deadline, with tournament starting July 11?
Is it possible that the tournament will start before the schedules come out?
But don't worry - the tournament runs until Tuesday, so plenty of time to get those games in!
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By nature of their comment that this will be the "only" pre-qualifying tournament used for seeding the LHGCL QT, they could give the participants preferential seeding in the QT, (like putting Dalglish/RASE/LFS in the same group or something) which would essentially dribble all the teams to register next year for fear of a repeat cluster-f.
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