00 D2 Tuesday 9/30

Good luck tomorrow night! This marks 4 games in 7 days...tell the ladies to stretch well, to hydrate, and to rest...(yeah that last one is kind of a joke with the current schedule).

Dad, oh dad, please don't fold! I will post, promise!
Quite obviously, people are missing the boat on game discussion. Come people, where is your gamesmanship? Where are your dire predictions? Where are you?????? Have you no team faith? Have you been blindsided by multiple games in a row? Are you lying in a dip on a UTD field and can't get up? Has your computer died, your iphone crashed, your android lost?

Show Dad some love here peeps! You all like to vote, why not add a quote?

LH D2 scores... Its wide open, who wants to move up?!

Sunday, September 28, 2014
MUSTANGS. 2-1 SWW.  Takes SG to 15 round decision, but but stumbles against SF.

SG. 4-0. AZTECS. Beat a very good opponent

FCDE.  1-1. DTFW:  DT refuses to be overlooked.

D'FEETERS.  1-2 FCD-P: 2 goals is the most given up by feet all season

DTN. 1-2 STING FERRETTI: was not expecting this...


Tuesday, September 30, 2014
DTFW. 1-3 SG: SG back on track after poor outing vs mustangs

SWW.  3-0 DTN: Dr.  Jekyll and Mr. Hyde. Not sure which is who...

STING-F. 1-0 DFEETERS.  Sting F takes 3rd place; feet still having trouble scoring..

FCD-P. 2-2 FCD-E: draw over at the FCD corral

AZTECS 1-1 MUSTANGS: 2 teams who are getting better.

Here ya go: 1 more win by Gold and one more loss by both Aztecs and Ferretti and it's over. In other words, Gold snags a 9pt lead and they'll win the league. Then they can start prepping for D1.

backofthenet wrote:Here ya go: 1 more win by Gold and one more loss by both Aztecs and Ferretti and it's over.  In other words, Gold snags a 9pt lead and they'll win the league. Then they can start prepping for D1.

While I would like to think what you say is true, a three game lead in this league is not a "gimme". I would be looking for a five game lead before I started planning the parade route.

Oh man Pur, I was all set to build a float!

Happy to plan it for you.
9pts

Over.

OK Dad, we are showing you the love!

Finally some on wants to engage . I think the last 4 weeks were very interesting. I have the following observations about d2 in general. 1) the level of play is much higher then last year. I do not know if that is because there are less teams playing at this age, less dedicated dd left, girls just at that point in maturity. I just do not know. What I do know is passing is much better. Playing in the back with the ball is very good. Defense is tight and scoring is occuring more by multiple passes or plays infornt of the goal then the long ball. 2) 14 year old girls are still not very consistent. Most teams have a suprising win and loss on their record 3) It is still open for the top. SG is there but Mustages are my dark horse. 4) one more month and it will be 2/3 over for the year which is hard to believe.

OK Fun, was that an intentional pun? Mustangs=dark horse?

Not in this division but here I go:

With things being the same, which will not happen, no doubt SG is rising above the rest. Don't really care about scores, wins are wins. However, who knows what injuries will occur. Who will borrow top notch players from sister teams to snipe. Who just has a bad night. All those things factor. But, I do think SG will win it and by a few games if they stay healthy.

I also think DTFW will not be relegated.

Just my 2 cents.

textigerfan wrote:Not in this division but here I go:

With things being the same, which will not happen, no doubt SG is rising above the rest.  Don't really care about scores, wins are wins.  However, who knows what injuries will occur.  Who will borrow top notch players from sister teams to snipe.  Who just has a bad night.  All those things factor.  But, I do think SG will win it and by a few games if they stay healthy.  

I also think DTFW will not be relegated.

Just my 2 cents.

Good point about the CPP moves. I get it if its for an injured player, like a goalie, but would most parents be content knowing that their team couldn't make it on their own and the coach had to bring in top tier players to compete at a higher level? Granted, the rules allow it but what does it teach the girls? Maybe its: "Don't worry ladies, you may not be good enough but I know someone who is."

Parents will absolutely be "content "because if their team gets relegated, chances are it's gonna blow anyhow. Might as well use what you can if needed to secure a bye. Don't believe me, look at Mustangs Bussey. Finished 2nd last year and boom went the dynamite and lost their top 5-6. They'll finish mid pack now. Now, if that's satisfactory for the group then that's cool. But generally speaking, teams that expect to win it and don't will take a major hit and be in a continuous rebuilding program.

Let the bashing begin, but I'm pretty sure I'm right

purtxn wrote:

textigerfan wrote:Not in this division but here I go:

With things being the same, which will not happen, no doubt SG is rising above the rest.  Don't really care about scores, wins are wins.  However, who knows what injuries will occur.  Who will borrow top notch players from sister teams to snipe.  Who just has a bad night.  All those things factor.  But, I do think SG will win it and by a few games if they stay healthy.  

I also think DTFW will not be relegated.

Just my 2 cents.

Good point about the CPP moves.  I get it if its for an injured player, like a goalie, but would most parents be content knowing that their team couldn't make it on their own and the coach had to bring in top tier players to compete at a higher level?  Granted, the rules allow it but what does it teach the girls?  Maybe its: "Don't worry ladies, you may not be good enough but I know someone who is."

I can easily understand if the keeper is injured.  But, if you still have your team and it is just not getting it done, I think using CPP is terrible.  I can understand some if it is an opportunity for a player in a lessor league or a younger age group to play "up".  As discussed in a million threads, totally for the advantage of the bigger clubs.  Don't need a lecture about any of it, I understand and get it.  But, for small clubs that do not have that option it is like, here is our 18 against any variation of the other clubs numbers that can greatly exceed 18.  But, LH is smart and knows whose wheels to grease. It is what it is.

Hopefully we'll be there to clean up the mess..

InaB wrote:OK Dad, we are showing you the love!

Lol. Yes ma'am. Kinda like so much other stuff in this world...not that big a deal. I did the polls, so the world should continue to turn through at least this weekend. I regret the scare everyone probably experienced-haha.

Btw- we saw so much on CPP last year...haven't seen it this year as much. I am sure there have been/are/will be some, but is it just me?? Doesn't seem quite as prevalent. I heard Aztecs used it against SG but pulled UP some 01s (so I actually can support that use), and I think injuries will probably force teams to use it some, but pretty quiet overall. Don't mean to stir the pot, but I just haven't seen it as much.

dadof3 wrote:

InaB wrote:OK Dad, we are showing you the love!

Lol. Yes ma'am. Kinda like so much other stuff in this world...not that big a deal. I did the polls, so the world should continue to turn through at least this weekend. I regret the scare everyone probably experienced-haha.

Btw- we saw so much on CPP last year...haven't seen it this year as much. I am sure there have been/are/will be some, but is it just me?? Doesn't seem quite as prevalent. I heard Aztecs used it against SG but pulled UP some 01s (so I actually can support that use), and I think injuries will probably force teams to use it some, but pretty quiet overall. Don't mean to stir the pot, but I just haven't seen it as much.

Look under general girls soccer discussion. I just stumbled upon that thread recently myself. The silence under the 00 board was deafening. Btw, frankly where else was Aztecs gonna pull from? Just like us, we'd have to pull up from 02's which would really give us an unfair advantage. lol Now that's a thought, maybe we'll do that against Flash next time.

KnKsDad wrote:

dadof3 wrote:

InaB wrote:OK Dad, we are showing you the love!

Lol. Yes ma'am. Kinda like so much other stuff in this world...not that big a deal. I did the polls, so the world should continue to turn through at least this weekend. I regret the scare everyone probably experienced-haha.

Btw- we saw so much on CPP last year...haven't seen it this year as much. I am sure there have been/are/will be some, but is it just me?? Doesn't seem quite as prevalent. I heard Aztecs used it against SG but pulled UP some 01s (so I actually can support that use), and I think injuries will probably force teams to use it some, but pretty quiet overall. Don't mean to stir the pot, but I just haven't seen it as much.

Look under general girls soccer discussion. I just stumbled upon that thread recently myself. The silence under the 00 board was deafening. Btw, frankly where else was Aztecs gonna pull from? Just like us, we'd have to pull up from 02's which would really give us an unfair advantage. lol  Now that's a thought, maybe we'll do that against Flash next time.

First, y'all are about as hot as it gets, so just avoiding a let down is going to put you in shape to promote. Congrats on some impressive wins. It looks like y'all found whatever it was you (somewhat lacked) earlier in the season.

Second, I agree. I read that thread. I feel that is a travesty. We were transparent last year in how we used CPP. We were the same team before a GK injury and with our CPP GK. Did she help us, of course. And though people may have grumbled, we didn't get openly torched too badly because it was NOT to generate wins we weren't getting pre-injury. We didn't ever use a field player despite the fact we had several injuries and struggled at times to score.

I should have been clearer...I meant in the 00s and specifically in D2 because it was such a hot item here. I just either haven't seen or heard much if it in D2. And honestly in either D3 or D1 as of yet. Of course, now is when injuries tend to mount, so we may just be ramping up...

For the record, I have no problem with using a competitive younger player UP (like Aztecs in that scenario-I again only "heard" that so no proof or accusation), nor do I have a problem with a player in a lower league coming UP...I do have a problem with bringing in ringers solely to win or avoid relegation if that is where you sit. It is awful to lose a GK and IMO somewhat dangerous to have to fill with a field unfamiliar with the position, and I agree that it creates an unfair advantage for clubs with multiple age level teams over teams that can't pull a body in to cover multiple injuries.

My question was more along the lines of the reality of what's happening...am I just not seeing it (yet), or is it just not happening as often this year? If it is happening, is it 3 players for a cheap win or is it an injury fill? We haven't used one. We have lost a few games to injuries. Our roster has been able to absorb it this far without any "help" from outside. I don't see the other rosters, so is it less prevalent or am I naive to its use?

Im not sure why people feel it is ok for keepers but not field players. It seems a little inconsistent. Shouldn't there be a back up plan at every position?
For the record im am for cpp (if tweak to only allowing players to play up).

Send It wrote: Im not sure why people feel it is ok for keepers but not field players. It seems a little inconsistent.  Shouldn't there be a back up plan at every position?  
For the record im am for cpp (if tweak to only allowing players to play up).

Keepers are more understandable because it is a unique position that most players cannot just step into.  However, with field players you have subs that can step in if a starter gets hurt.  Granted, if you have multiple injuries then you might need to backfill the roster.  

From the rosters I have seen, there is only one team that appears to be "beefing it up" a little...oh and they are suddenly on a hot streak of "kicking butt and taking names".

purtxn wrote:

Send It wrote: Im not sure why people feel it is ok for keepers but not field players. It seems a little inconsistent.  Shouldn't there be a back up plan at every position?  
For the record im am for cpp (if tweak to only allowing players to play up).

Keepers are more understandable because it is a unique position that most players cannot just step into.  However, with field players you have subs that can step in if a starter gets hurt.  Granted, if you have multiple injuries then you might need to backfill the roster.  

From the rosters I have seen, there is only one team that appears to be "beefing it up" a little...oh and they are suddenly on a hot streak of "kicking butt and taking names".

Purtxn I would like to know your source for "beefing it up". I believe the team you are referring to has used the cpp for goalies since their goalie went out with a serious concussion during the Plano Labor Day tourney. In your own response you saw no issue with goalies being used for the cpp. I believe it was used one other time with Players coming from a D3 team due to injuries, homecoming and players being out of town and I believe that game was one of their losses. The team has won their games on their own and if you saw any of the games you would realize that the team is much stronger than last year and earning the praise they are receiving.

" The team has won their games on their own and if you saw any of the games you would realize that the team is much stronger than last year and earning the praise they are receiving."

Just curious stmcarthy, what in your opinion made the team much stronger than last year ?

I can say that they are evenly matched in play over all on the team. They are also getting more comfortable with their game style. And they are willing to go for the ball.

Fussball wrote:" The team has won their games on their own and if you saw any of the games you would realize that the team is much stronger than last year and earning the praise they are receiving."

Just curious stmcarthy, what in your opinion made the team much stronger than last year ?

Fussball, I would say in a broad sense that it boils down to the following two items: We got some great new players on the roster and there is more cohesiveness amongst the girls. Sometimes a group jels and sometimes they don't. I think we are lucky this year that the girls are coming together as a whole unit really well.

How many players are CPP per week? One GK...no big deal IMO. 3 players every game...when a roster starts with 17 or so...that to me is eh...I can see pulling them UP. is that what is going on?

Sorry, I just read your response a little closer, and you seemed to answer most of this. I certainly understand pulling a CPP for an injured gk, and I like that you are pulling UP for field players.

The reason a GK is different to me is safety. A GK is unique in the sense that she can be in head in collisions at full speed, where most other players don't get that often. Not that it CANT happen, but if a kid is on a break, the defense isn't normally running AT her. Short term, use a field player to fill in...long term it is different to me...and if you look on here, there are always postings for keepers. The incidence of injury is higher and the pool of availability is not large enough to accommodate the number of teams. Ask a kid to play forward for a while, and she will accept. Ask one to play in the goal for the rest of the season...may not be so high on that.