The Word on the STREET.

MrMiyagi wrote:If your kids can play for one of these advanced and you should go for it. Personally I am glad that they are really good teams out there for our kids to go against. It only makes them better.
Don't make these kids feel as though they are part of some evil Empire. They have worked hard. They have paid their dues. I wish the new Sting White the best of luck.

I agree, it isn't the kids fault. I hope my post didn't come across that way. I was only pointing out that Sting didn't have a big decision to make. They absolutely SHOULD form an excellent team from those two groups-they were both already strong squads...AND I have NO problem with that group being in D1...Just call them a reformed Flanny with some Feet addition, and there is NO issue...they keep the Sting D1 Bye and give back the Feet D2 bye to the QT. I personally don't blame the kids or the club for making the best of the situation.

We love ya' DeeOhThree.
Your post didn't come across negatively .
How bout we call the girls ," D'Flanagaters !" ?

Ok D'feeters leaves D2 for D1. Does that open up another QT slot, or can D'feeters fill the bye with any team?

D'Feeters owns the bye. They should be able to fill the spot with a team of their choosing. With the approval of LHGCL.
If they do not use the bye , Flash could avoid requalifying.

MrMiyagi wrote:We love ya' DeeOhThree.
Your post didn't come across negatively .
How bout we call the girls ," D'Flanagaters !" ?

Haha...I'm down! or D'Flan when they release their album...or is that a sweet Mexican dessert?

Does Feet have another team? I know they were trying to form one last summer, but I didn't think it made...Is there a Feet team out there lurking that I haven't heard or seen?

Also, I think there were only 3 spots in QT which seems low...Do you think they pull Flash back up (they did with FWFC last year I think...which still left 4 qualifiers) or just leave it at 3 qualifiers...

Also, heard through the grapevine that FCDP was disbanding and that FCD Red would be taking the spot in D2...Did I hear that right? If so, good for Red-they have made some great strides.

Any other contractions (as Ina put it)??

I can't wait to see blow out games due to this new LH change. I'm only hoping that there aren't injuries with the new D1 teams playing the very skilled and aggressive Top D1 teams. Good Luck!!

If feet maintains 75% of their team in the transition, then they will take the bye with them to Sting.

If the mighty D'Flanaritas maintain 75% and allow Sting Command to pass the D2 bye to Sting Bruno. That would be the ultimate coup.

FC Dallas website has FC Dallas Red marked as a D2 LH team.
Don't quote me on that.
U saw it in the Internet so it must be true. Lol

The D2 Feet bye given to Sting and saves Sting Bruno from Qualifying or Oblivion. Where is Paul Harvey when you need him, "and now, The Rest of the Story!!"

This will be interesting.....the Ultimate Coup!!!!!

I may have to pull out my," Bruno Lives Matter" tee shirt. Lol.

Hater wrote:I can't wait to see blow out games due to this new LH change. I'm only hoping that there aren't injuries with the new D1 teams playing the very skilled and aggressive Top D1 teams. Good Luck!!

I don't think there will be many blow outs in the two divisions. There have been a few teams known to borrow an ENCL player through CPP to avoid such embarrassments. IMO, the two super groups will invite more players to move around and allow teams to keep deeper benches.
The incoming freshmen from QT might struggle a bit but don't forget the LH Board is saying there will a promotion and relegation process for both super groups.

IMO top 5 D1 teams have players that could make an ECNL team but choose to stay in D1. We have played ECNL teams and beat them so adding a CPP won't help the D2/D1 team from enbarrassment. Good luck with that.

Hater wrote:I can't wait to see blow out games due to this new LH change. I'm only hoping that there aren't  injuries with the new D1 teams playing the very skilled and aggressive Top D1 teams. Good Luck!!

I think there is a possibility you are right to some extent...this could turn out like the U11 supergroup with 20 teams...(except now 5 ECNL and only 14 D1). Are you worried that the top D1 teams will hurt the lower D1 teams or that the lower D1 teams will have to play so ultra-physically to keep up, the players from the top teams will lose players...or both?

Hater wrote:IMO top 5 D1 teams have players that could make an ECNL team but choose to stay in D1. We have played ECNL teams and beat them so adding a CPP won't help the D2/D1 team from enbarrassment. Good luck with that.

I agree, but I am not sure that it is only the top 5 teams that have those players though...also how do you explain a team like Parker? They were in D2 last year, and now sit atop D1...clearly able to compete. Have you seen all the D2 teams coming up? Several of those teams have players who compete regularly with those ECNL and D1 players on high school teams...my point is that I agree there is probably going to be some separation in the league...there always is (there was in D1 this year...a top 3, then 3 then 2 by the standings), but it may be a 3-4-3-4 or something and not a 5-9...

My concern is we only get 5-6 competitive games this year. I hope that the teams moving up can recruit... If not its a long year for all of us

Honcho47 wrote:My concern is we only get 5-6 competitive games this year. I hope that the teams moving up can recruit... If not its a long year for all of us

You may be right...hopefully Solar Gold can grab a few and give you a game!

You know that thee will be teams coming and going this time of year. What I don't think we will see are more new teams forming. What we will see are more teams reforming or transforming. I agree that we shouldn't take our personal opinions out on the players. You would be surprised at how much they know about what has been said here. (Or maybe not).

It is ok to disagree with rules, but let's try to do it without being Debbie Downers for the players.

I know it is frustrating when you work hard to make it to the next level only to have the win diluted by a change in rules. However, as the new season gets underway, things will sort themselves out.

Dad, I could not find another Feet team to take that bye. However, that isn't to say that they could entice another independent or club team to join the club and take the Feet spot.

As we have seen, sometimes bye takeovers work out, and sometimes they don't. Time will tell.

I am happy for the Flanny girls who are staying, and happy for the Feet girls who will be joining them.

It will be interesting to see how the teams progress under the changes ahead.

Those teams/players not used to playing in D1 will learn quickly what a difference it can be. The same can be said for those Dr teams playing in D2 this year. I still think there will be more of a gap on the divisions this year.

My best to all teams as they get through signing and the move to the new season.

Oh, and congrats to Mother Nature for her ability to win the spring season with such vigor!

Sting got the Dfeeter bye. No way Sting gave Patulea the D1 spot without Patulea bringing the D2 bye with her. Patulea has been losing the top of her roster every year since she took that relegated D2 team and won D3... She will take the best of the Flanagan and feet teams (or the good players that CPP didn't chase away) and make them competitive in D1(preseason predictions and prognostications are not far off!).

dadof3 wrote:I agree, but I am not sure that it is only the top 5 teams that have those players though...also how do you explain a team like Parker?  They were in D2 last year, and now sit atop D1...clearly able to compete.  Have you seen all the D2 teams coming up?  Several of those teams have players who compete regularly with those ECNL and D1 players on high school teams...my point is that I agree there is probably going to be some separation in the league...there always is (there was in D1 this year...a top 3, then 3 then 2 by the standings), but it may be a 3-4-3-4 or something and not a 5-9...

There's no doubt there are quality players scattered throughout LH, but the teams that have been able to retain their best players over the long haul will be the most successful next year. The newly formed teams, even those with talent, will struggle early against the established teams.

Parker is a good example of keeping most of their best players over the long haul.  Few remember, but it took Parker a couple of years to get out of D2, but he kept that team together and won D2 outright.  As should benefit SG this year, SP kept his team together and was competitive with the top of the this year's D1. Regarding this year,  they were clearly one of the top 3 teams in D1 this year, but, let's not be naive... their "sitting atop D1" was definitely a Club Sting CPP collective effort.

Ironically, the potential changes to LH's CPP may save Sting... As unpopular as the rule was to those whom it was used against, it was more unpopular inside Sting. After his "extra help" during the season and particularly in State Cup, I'm not surprised that  Flannigan was not running that team again this year... IMHBIO...(humble but informed opinion)...

What else have I missed?

Packrabbit wrote:Sting got the Dfeeter bye. No way Sting gave Patulea the D1 spot without Patulea bringing the D2 bye with her. Patulea has been losing the top of her roster every year since she took that relegated D2 team and won D3... She will take the best of the Flanagan and feet teams (or the good players that CPP didn't chase away) and make them competitive in D1(preseason predictions and prognostications are not far off!).

dadof3 wrote:I agree, but I am not sure that it is only the top 5 teams that have those players though...also how do you explain a team like Parker?  They were in D2 last year, and now sit atop D1...clearly able to compete.  Have you seen all the D2 teams coming up?  Several of those teams have players who compete regularly with those ECNL and D1 players on high school teams...my point is that I agree there is probably going to be some separation in the league...there always is (there was in D1 this year...a top 3, then 3 then 2 by the standings), but it may be a 3-4-3-4 or something and not a 5-9...

There's no doubt there are quality players scattered throughout LH, but the teams that have been able to retain their best players over the long haul will be the most successful next year. The newly formed teams, even those with talent, will struggle early against the established teams.

Parker is a good example of keeping most of their best players over the long haul.  Few remember, but it took Parker a couple of years to get out of D2, but he kept that team together and won D2 outright.  As should benefit SG this year, SP kept his team together and was competitive with the top of the this year's D1. Regarding this year,  they were clearly one of the top 3 teams in D1 this year, but, let's not be naive... their "sitting atop D1" was definitely a Club Sting CPP collective effort.

Ironically, the potential changes to LH's CPP may save Sting... As unpopular as the rule was to those whom it was used against, it was more unpopular inside Sting. After his "extra help" during the season and particularly in State Cup, I'm not surprised that  Flannigan was not running that team again this year... IMHBIO...(humble but informed opinion)...

What else have I missed?

First, do Rabbits hibernate now, or were you back under "surveillance"?? Glad to have you back.

Who can Sting/Feet give the bye to? There are no other Feet teams...are there any Sting teams? To give the bye to Sting, they will have to have N+1 (from Feet) on the D2 team, otherwise it turns back over to Feet...and the Feet cupboard looks bare...

To be clear, I didn't intend that Parker were running away with D1...just that they were clearly in the top 3...(but I admit that they did have a pretty sizable lead for the title). Pulp was to play them head to head, but would still have needed help. Andro couldn't have mathematically caught them, but those were the 3 I was referencing. Add Sting Brown and FCD Blue to make the top 5 per Honcho's statement...Flanny?? Last time I saw them, they were one of the better D1 teams. Sorry to hear they fell off some...of course, it doesn't take much when the difference between teams is a play/player or two.

They do have a team in Arlington. Not sure if Feet would give the bye to them but there is another team

Also, as Feet moved and became Sting, any other team can move and become a Feet or Sting team to take and save the Feet bye. We have seen Mustangs become Liverpoodlians, FW become Texans, who knows what can happen.

Non you moose, I think you work for Sting and are trying to put a good spin on this hostile takeover! No way does that team belong in D1 as it stands. I know there are some good recruiters and things may change but word on the street is not one Flannigan girl will be on that team.

Sccrcrazy---I have insider information (enough to be arrested for insider trading if this was a stock market game) and four Flanny players have committed to the newly created Flanny/Feet. Sting has been very welcoming and supportive----and believe in this new blended team. Sting has worked for two years trying to get this team to come aboard!! So I guess you may want to ignore "word on the street" (unless it is from a coach or manager) and instead of posting disparaging comments about U15 girls--make sure your team is ready! Flanny-Feet will be!! Forum player and team bashing only makes you look petty.

Got my teams mixed up, stupid me.

Ouch!

BTW, the other Sting team would be Sting Central Royal Martin. Good team, good Coach.