Let's Talk Releases and Effect on League Rosters

If a player receives a full competitive release or is allowed to transfer to another team within the same club how does this effect league rosters? Can players even be added to a select teams roster in Lake Highlands or Plano Premier who is currently on a roster? Are they required to switch to a different division then current team? Can they switch from Plano to LH or vise versa? Any help answering theses questions would be greatly appreciated.

If a player receives a full competitive release, they are a free agent and can sign anywhere.  

Once a player enters select, they may only be rostered on a single roster within a sanctioning organization, i.e. USYSA or US Club.  Since USYSA (North Texas, LHGCL, Plano Premier) and US Club (ECNL) are independent of each other, it IS possible to be rostered on a North Texas roster at the same time they are rostered on a US Club roster.

If player receives the full competitive release can they be added to a roster in LH or Plano right now? Mid season even if are currently on a roster?

Switchfoot wrote:If player receives the full competitive release can they be added to a roster in LH or Plano right now? Mid season even if are currently on a roster?

Once the player got a full competitive release, they are no longer on a roster.  That's what a full competitive release does, release them from their roster spot.  They may sign with any team that has an open roster spot.

Just to be clear, a full competitive release is very different from a release to rec.  If a player was released to rec, they may practice with other teams, they may guest play with other teams in tournaments, but they cannot play in league play, as generally speaking, leagues only allow rostered players to participate, and a player with a release to rec may not be rostered on another competitive team.

Related question - A LHGCL team with 18 players on the roster at the beginning of the year can adjust the roster and bring a different 18 girls - correct?  So a player that gets a full competitive release can join a team that is already "full" if the coach is willing to bench one of his original 18?  Or in other words, a team can have more than 18 girls on the squad, but only bring 18 to each league game?

Tom P. wrote:Related question - A LHGCL team with 18 players on the roster at the beginning of the year can adjust the roster and bring a different 18 girls - correct?  So a player that gets a full competitive release can join a team that is already "full" if the coach is willing to bench one of his original 18?  Or in other words, a team can have more than 18 girls on the squad, but only bring 18 to each league game?

LHGCL has different roster sizes based on age groups.  U11 is 16, U12-14 is 18, U15-19 is 22.  "Benching" a player doesn't remove the player from the roster.  The only way to free up a roster spot is to go through the NTX Soccer release process.  A coach can't just release a player in mid season in order to pick up a new player.

The roster size limits are strict maximum limits, they are not "game-day" roster limits.  Premier League is a little different in that they have a hard roster limit of (I think) 22, but only 18 players are eligible for each game on the "game-day" roster.

ballhead wrote:

Tom P. wrote:Related question - A LHGCL team with 18 players on the roster at the beginning of the year can adjust the roster and bring a different 18 girls - correct?  So a player that gets a full competitive release can join a team that is already "full" if the coach is willing to bench one of his original 18?  Or in other words, a team can have more than 18 girls on the squad, but only bring 18 to each league game?

LHGCL has different roster sizes based on age groups.  U11 is 16, U12-14 is 18, U15-19 is 22.  "Benching" a player doesn't remove the player from the roster.  The only way to free up a roster spot is to go through the NTX Soccer release process.  A coach can't just release a player in mid season in order to pick up a new player.

The roster size limits are strict maximum limits, they are not "game-day" roster limits.  Premier League is a little different in that they have a hard roster limit of (I think) 22, but only 18 players are eligible for each game on the "game-day" roster.

LHGCL allows teams to activate or deactivate a player from week to week, but only the age group maximums are allowed on a game day roster. If a player is being Club Player Passed, then their original team must deactivate the player then the receiving team can activate them. With CPP, there is not much reason to carry more than the maximum number on your team's roster.

SWGSB 52 wrote:

ballhead wrote:

Tom P. wrote:Related question - A LHGCL team with 18 players on the roster at the beginning of the year can adjust the roster and bring a different 18 girls - correct?  So a player that gets a full competitive release can join a team that is already "full" if the coach is willing to bench one of his original 18?  Or in other words, a team can have more than 18 girls on the squad, but only bring 18 to each league game?

LHGCL has different roster sizes based on age groups.  U11 is 16, U12-14 is 18, U15-19 is 22.  "Benching" a player doesn't remove the player from the roster.  The only way to free up a roster spot is to go through the NTX Soccer release process.  A coach can't just release a player in mid season in order to pick up a new player.

The roster size limits are strict maximum limits, they are not "game-day" roster limits.  Premier League is a little different in that they have a hard roster limit of (I think) 22, but only 18 players are eligible for each game on the "game-day" roster.

LHGCL allows teams to activate or deactivate a player from week to week, but only the age group maximums are allowed on a game day roster. If a player is being Club Player Passed, then their original team must deactivate the player then the receiving team can activate them. With CPP, there is not much reason to carry more than the maximum number on your team's roster.

I think you're right about CPP players and activating and deactivating players.  I was responding to the question of benching a player to free up a roster spot to add a player to the roster that had received a competitive release.  CPP adds a whole other layer of complexity.

Tom P. wrote:Related question - A LHGCL team with 18 players on the roster at the beginning of the year can adjust the roster and bring a different 18 girls - correct?  So a player that gets a full competitive release can join a team that is already "full" if the coach is willing to bench one of his original 18?  Or in other words, a team can have more than 18 girls on the squad, but only bring 18 to each league game?

As the LHGCL rules are currently written, the answer is no.  LHGCL sets a maximum number that they allow to be on the teams official on the NTSSA roster at the time of registration (16 for U11/12, 18 for U13/14, 22 for U15 and above).

Now, that is easily enforceable at the time of registration, but not sure how LHGCL would handle a team adding players to their NTSSA roster in excess of the league limit after the league has started.  You'd have to speak to someone from LHGCL.

Now, to answer the obvious "What about CPP players?" question...  CPP players are never on the team's official NTSSA roster.  If you have a full roster, LHGCL does allow you to bring in CPP players and declare regular NTSSA roster players "inactive" for a particular game.  However, I do not see any provision in the LHGCL rules that allows a team to have an NTSSA roster larger than the stated max size for the age group, and declare regular roster players inactive on game day.

It's easy to see where a club could get "creative" and find a way to skirt the rules if they really wanted to...  i.e. Create and register a new team with NTSSA that is not playing in any league, then use CPP to bring in the additional player(s) above the regular roster limit (this is how the ECNL clubs set it up so that they can CPP ECNL players to LHGCL).  

The question is whether or not any club/team would do this and put up with the fallout they would get from having "healthy" scratches.  It's one thing for a club to bring in CPP players when there are open roster spots or kids that are injured.  Totally new level of issue if you bring in CPP and declare a healthy rostered player inactive for a game.  I for one, wouldn't be spending my money for my DD to stick around in a situation like that.