05G Games of the Week (Oct 22/23)

KeeperCommander wrote:
And no one cares about a league that does not keep score apparently.

Oh, they care. They just started their own forum to talk about it. Guess you didn't get the e-mail, huh?

JDL teams are playing friendlies in Tulsa next weekend.
Scores are not kept but will be posted in the JDL forum.. Ha

bwgophers wrote:

KeeperCommander wrote:
And no one cares about a league that does not keep score apparently.

Oh, they care.  They just started their own forum to talk about it.  Guess you didn't get the e-mail, huh?

Sho'Nuff wrote:

hetlevenisvoetbal wrote:they are a mixture of possession and direct.

That's the ultimate compliment, IMO.

It is a compliment. Anyone that says that they are total possession team at this age is a little off the hinges. I never said it was bad soccer; they play to their strengths.

Any team that does not get pressured can look like a team that can play, but how many teams will play out of the back and though the midfield every time....NONE.

look in my opinion, here are the teams that play well and to their strengths.

DTS- Obviously ponies can't run with thoroughbreds.
LP Elite
Kicks both teams
Sting West JD
Stng West Bean
Fever United

Again this is based on my opinion and not meant to offend anyone.

hetlevenisvoetbal wrote:

Sho'Nuff wrote:

hetlevenisvoetbal wrote:they are a mixture of possession and direct.

That's the ultimate compliment, IMO.

It is a compliment. Anyone that says that they are total possession team at this age is a little off the hinges.  I never said it was bad soccer; they play to their strengths.  

Any team that does not get pressured can look like a team that can play, but how many teams will play out of the back and though the midfield every time....NONE.  

look in my opinion, here are the teams that play well and to their strengths.

DTS- Obviously ponies can't run with thoroughbreds.
LP Elite
Kicks both teams
Sting West JD
Stng West Bean
Fever United

Again this is based on my opinion and not meant to offend anyone.  

No one said anyone was total possession. Just a possession style team and good at it.
As far as the teams you listed as being good at the style they play, they def are. A few of them are really good at kicking it out of bounds.

KeeperCommander wrote:

hetlevenisvoetbal wrote:

KeeperCommander wrote:

Nstr wrote:"Two very different styles of play will clash here, but both are well coached teams that would likely be in the top half of JDL. "

- Interesting statement - how would you describe each style of play?

I think they play somewhat similar styles.  I believe Kicks is the least direct of all the teams but I do not think they differ very much.

I disagree, kicks is very direct.  Based on what I saw today and a couple of games ago, they are a mixture of possession and direct, I would say 70 percent direct and 30 percent possession.  Look no one blames them, they are athletic and individually skilled but not too technical.  I don't take anything away from them but they are far from a team that is tiki taka style of play.

Obviously you are entitled to your opinion but if they are very direct (70%) then does that make the other teams 90% direct?

Maybe, LP elite pressured high and they did not look as comfortable as they did against my nieces team. I just honestly do not think that they are the least direct. I think there are three or four teams more possession oriented than Kicks and yes I believe the others are about 89.33333333 percent direct ( ). Don't mean to ruffle feathers. We have to remind ourselves that you have about three or four coaches in this league that are really developmental coaches and I think JM is one of the four. It's a must win league or loose your team league and Kicks plays to their strengths with a mixture of long balls and possession.

hetlevenisvoetbal wrote:

KeeperCommander wrote:

hetlevenisvoetbal wrote:

KeeperCommander wrote:

Nstr wrote:"Two very different styles of play will clash here, but both are well coached teams that would likely be in the top half of JDL. "

- Interesting statement - how would you describe each style of play?

I think they play somewhat similar styles.  I believe Kicks is the least direct of all the teams but I do not think they differ very much.

I disagree, kicks is very direct.  Based on what I saw today and a couple of games ago, they are a mixture of possession and direct, I would say 70 percent direct and 30 percent possession.  Look no one blames them, they are athletic and individually skilled but not too technical.  I don't take anything away from them but they are far from a team that is tiki taka style of play.

Obviously you are entitled to your opinion but if they are very direct (70%) then does that make the other teams 90% direct?

Maybe, LP elite pressured high and they did not look as comfortable as they did against my nieces team.  I just honestly do not think that they are the least direct.  I think there are three or four teams more possession oriented than Kicks and yes I believe the others are about 89.33333333 percent direct ( ). Don't mean to ruffle feathers.  We have to remind ourselves that you have about three or four coaches in this league that are really developmental coaches and I think JM is one of the four. It's a must win league or loose your team league and Kicks plays to their strengths with a mixture of long balls and possession.

Then I guess I am confused because I said Kicks were the least direct of the teams and you just affirmed that with your math. Yet you are saying you disagree. Unless I completely misread that, you just said Kicks was about 70% direct and every one else was 89.33333333%.

KeeperCommander wrote:

hetlevenisvoetbal wrote:

KeeperCommander wrote:

hetlevenisvoetbal wrote:

KeeperCommander wrote:

Nstr wrote:"Two very different styles of play will clash here, but both are well coached teams that would likely be in the top half of JDL. "

- Interesting statement - how would you describe each style of play?

I think they play somewhat similar styles.  I believe Kicks is the least direct of all the teams but I do not think they differ very much.

I disagree, kicks is very direct.  Based on what I saw today and a couple of games ago, they are a mixture of possession and direct, I would say 70 percent direct and 30 percent possession.  Look no one blames them, they are athletic and individually skilled but not too technical.  I don't take anything away from them but they are far from a team that is tiki taka style of play.

Obviously you are entitled to your opinion but if they are very direct (70%) then does that make the other teams 90% direct?

Maybe, LP elite pressured high and they did not look as comfortable as they did against my nieces team.  I just honestly do not think that they are the least direct.  I think there are three or four teams more possession oriented than Kicks and yes I believe the others are about 89.33333333 percent direct ( ). Don't mean to ruffle feathers.  We have to remind ourselves that you have about three or four coaches in this league that are really developmental coaches and I think JM is one of the four. It's a must win league or loose your team league and Kicks plays to their strengths with a mixture of long balls and possession.

Then I guess I am confused because I said Kicks were the least direct of the teams and you just affirmed that with your math. Yet you are saying you disagree.  Unless I completely misread that, you just said Kicks was about 70% direct and every one else was 89.33333333%.  

( ), means I am just kidding and being a smarty pants about the 89.33333333% (i think this number would have hinted I was being a smart @$$). Look if it makes you feel better Kicks is less direct than anyone in the world of soccer. Lets put it to rest, they are at the top for a reason. It's a good team, Period. Your least direct comment was open to interpretation. No more comments from me. Have a good week..

hetlevenisvoetbal wrote:

KeeperCommander wrote:

hetlevenisvoetbal wrote:

KeeperCommander wrote:

Nstr wrote:"Two very different styles of play will clash here, but both are well coached teams that would likely be in the top half of JDL. "

- Interesting statement - how would you describe each style of play?

I think they play somewhat similar styles.  I believe Kicks is the least direct of all the teams but I do not think they differ very much.

I disagree, kicks is very direct.  Based on what I saw today and a couple of games ago, they are a mixture of possession and direct, I would say 70 percent direct and 30 percent possession.  Look no one blames them, they are athletic and individually skilled but not too technical.  I don't take anything away from them but they are far from a team that is tiki taka style of play.

Obviously you are entitled to your opinion but if they are very direct (70%) then does that make the other teams 90% direct?

Maybe, LP elite pressured high and they did not look as comfortable as they did against my nieces team.  I just honestly do not think that they are the least direct.  I think there are three or four teams more possession oriented than Kicks and yes I believe the others are about 89.33333333 percent direct ( ). Don't mean to ruffle feathers.  We have to remind ourselves that you have about three or four coaches in this league that are really developmental coaches and I think JM is one of the four. It's a must win league or loose your team league and Kicks plays to their strengths with a mixture of long balls and possession.

This just seems like a bit of a misunderstanding. Perhaps you were just at the wrong field, watching the wrong game. That makes more sense than the observation you have given.

soccerphun wrote:Does anyone know any of the JDL scores from today?

Heard DTS 6-1 over FCD Red

SWINGIT!! wrote:

soccerphun wrote:Does anyone know any of the JDL scores from today?

Heard DTS 6-1 over FCD Red

Is that for real?  Didn't expect that. I thought it would be much closer game.

I heard Sting Higgy tied 1-1 vs Sting Parsons.

hetlevenisvoetbal wrote:

KeeperCommander wrote:

hetlevenisvoetbal wrote:

KeeperCommander wrote:

hetlevenisvoetbal wrote:

KeeperCommander wrote:
I think they play somewhat similar styles.  I believe Kicks is the least direct of all the teams but I do not think they differ very much.

I disagree, kicks is very direct.  Based on what I saw today and a couple of games ago, they are a mixture of possession and direct, I would say 70 percent direct and 30 percent possession.  Look no one blames them, they are athletic and individually skilled but not too technical.  I don't take anything away from them but they are far from a team that is tiki taka style of play.

Obviously you are entitled to your opinion but if they are very direct (70%) then does that make the other teams 90% direct?

Maybe, LP elite pressured high and they did not look as comfortable as they did against my nieces team.  I just honestly do not think that they are the least direct.  I think there are three or four teams more possession oriented than Kicks and yes I believe the others are about 89.33333333 percent direct ( ). Don't mean to ruffle feathers.  We have to remind ourselves that you have about three or four coaches in this league that are really developmental coaches and I think JM is one of the four. It's a must win league or loose your team league and Kicks plays to their strengths with a mixture of long balls and possession.

Then I guess I am confused because I said Kicks were the least direct of the teams and you just affirmed that with your math. Yet you are saying you disagree.  Unless I completely misread that, you just said Kicks was about 70% direct and every one else was 89.33333333%.  

( ), means I am just kidding and being a smarty pants about the 89.33333333% (i think this number would have hinted I was being a smart @$$).  Look if it makes you feel better Kicks is less direct than anyone in the world of soccer.  Lets put it to rest, they are at the top for a reason. It's a good team, Period.  Your least direct comment was open to interpretation. No more comments from me.  Have a good week..

My bad. I guess i did not understand your smarty pantsiness. I wasn't arguing the point merely making a statement in the beginning that your argued. I do not have a DD in this particular instance so it truly does not matter just a great topic to debate.

Pele98 wrote:

SWINGIT!! wrote:

soccerphun wrote:Does anyone know any of the JDL scores from today?

Heard DTS 6-1 over FCD Red

Is that for real?  Didn't expect that. I thought it would be much closer game.

I heard Sting Higgy tied 1-1 vs Sting Parsons.

Wow that is much higher than I thought it would be too. FCD Red usually starts kicking it into the stands way before it gets that bad.
Sting Parsons and Hig, well maybe all the good teams are not as good as they once were.
But then again no one keeps these scores so they do not exist, much like 4-4-2's common sense.

KeeperCommander wrote:

Pele98 wrote:

SWINGIT!! wrote:

soccerphun wrote:Does anyone know any of the JDL scores from today?

Heard DTS 6-1 over FCD Red

Is that for real?  Didn't expect that. I thought it would be much closer game.

I heard Sting Higgy tied 1-1 vs Sting Parsons.

Wow that is much higher than I thought it would be too.  FCD Red usually starts kicking it into the stands way before it gets that bad.  
Sting Parsons and Hig, well maybe all the good teams are not as good as they once were.
But then again no one keeps these scores so they do not exist, much like 4-4-2's common sense.

Of Parsons and Hig, who was supposed to be the "good" one?

lulu22 wrote:

KeeperCommander wrote:

Pele98 wrote:

SWINGIT!! wrote:

soccerphun wrote:Does anyone know any of the JDL scores from today?

Heard DTS 6-1 over FCD Red

Is that for real?  Didn't expect that. I thought it would be much closer game.

I heard Sting Higgy tied 1-1 vs Sting Parsons.

Wow that is much higher than I thought it would be too.  FCD Red usually starts kicking it into the stands way before it gets that bad.  
Sting Parsons and Hig, well maybe all the good teams are not as good as they once were.
But then again no one keeps these scores so they do not exist, much like 4-4-2's common sense.

Of Parsons and Hig, who was supposed to be the "good" one?

I could not begin to tell you. They play in a secret league that doesn't post scores or keep standings, nobody talks about it, and I am pretty sure the league is a secret CIA operation started back in the 60's.

lulu22 wrote:

KeeperCommander wrote:

Pele98 wrote:

SWINGIT!! wrote:

soccerphun wrote:Does anyone know any of the JDL scores from today?

Heard DTS 6-1 over FCD Red

Is that for real?  Didn't expect that. I thought it would be much closer game.

I heard Sting Higgy tied 1-1 vs Sting Parsons.

Wow that is much higher than I thought it would be too.  FCD Red usually starts kicking it into the stands way before it gets that bad.  
Sting Parsons and Hig, well maybe all the good teams are not as good as they once were.
But then again no one keeps these scores so they do not exist, much like 4-4-2's common sense.

Of Parsons and Hig, who was supposed to be the "good" one?

Neither. Outside of DTS and Solar Colvin, the "development" experience for most of the JDL teams appears to be a joke so far. All of the #2 JDL teams would rank 10-15 at best in LHD1 this Fall (see and compare all scores for DT Central 05...#2 Texans JDL team currently in 16th place in LHD1). JDL #1 teams FCD Red and Sting Higgy would struggle to crack top 5 in LHD1. While DTS has solidly beaten almost all teams in LHD1, the 5 goal margin of victory over FCDR (6-1) has only been replicated this Fall so far in LHD1 by DTS over the #15, #18 and #19 ranked teams. All other games have had a margin inside a 5 goal difference. Just saying....

Don Draper wrote:

lulu22 wrote:

KeeperCommander wrote:

Pele98 wrote:

SWINGIT!! wrote:

soccerphun wrote:Does anyone know any of the JDL scores from today?

Heard DTS 6-1 over FCD Red

Is that for real?  Didn't expect that. I thought it would be much closer game.

I heard Sting Higgy tied 1-1 vs Sting Parsons.

Wow that is much higher than I thought it would be too.  FCD Red usually starts kicking it into the stands way before it gets that bad.  
Sting Parsons and Hig, well maybe all the good teams are not as good as they once were.
But then again no one keeps these scores so they do not exist, much like 4-4-2's common sense.

Of Parsons and Hig, who was supposed to be the "good" one?

Neither. Outside of DTS and Solar Colvin, the "development" experience for most of the JDL teams appears to be a joke so far. All of the #2 JDL teams would rank 10-15 at best in LHD1 (see and compare all scores for DT Central 05...#2 Texans JDL team currently in 16th place on LHD1). JDL #1 teams FCD Red and Sting Higgy would struggle to crack top 5 in LHD1. While DTS has solidly beaten almost all teams in LHD1, the 5 goal margin of victory over FCDR (6-1) has only been replicated this Fall so far in LHD1 by DTS over the #15, #18 and #19 ranked teams. All other games have had a margin inside a 5 goal difference. Just saying....

Hmmm...Maybe. I agree with most of that. The statement that FCD Red would not be a top 5 team?? Very sketchy. I believe they would definitely be top 5. Where I do not know. Ahead of Fever? All day, every day. Liverpool? Uh maybe. They can't beat DTS but they have tied and beat Kicks.

Don Draper wrote:

lulu22 wrote:

KeeperCommander wrote:

Pele98 wrote:

SWINGIT!! wrote:

soccerphun wrote:Does anyone know any of the JDL scores from today?

Heard DTS 6-1 over FCD Red

Is that for real?  Didn't expect that. I thought it would be much closer game.

I heard Sting Higgy tied 1-1 vs Sting Parsons.

Wow that is much higher than I thought it would be too.  FCD Red usually starts kicking it into the stands way before it gets that bad.  
Sting Parsons and Hig, well maybe all the good teams are not as good as they once were.
But then again no one keeps these scores so they do not exist, much like 4-4-2's common sense.

Of Parsons and Hig, who was supposed to be the "good" one?

Neither. Outside of DTS and Solar Colvin, the "development" experience for most of the JDL teams appears to be a joke so far. All of the #2 JDL teams would rank 10-15 at best in LHD1 this Fall (see and compare all scores for DT Central 05...#2 Texans JDL team currently in 16th place in LHD1). JDL #1 teams FCD Red and Sting Higgy would struggle to crack top 5 in LHD1. While DTS has solidly beaten almost all teams in LHD1, the 5 goal margin of victory over FCDR (6-1) has only been replicated this Fall so far in LHD1 by DTS over the #15, #18 and #19 ranked teams. All other games have had a margin inside a 5 goal difference. Just saying....

Using DT Central as your baseline is a joke.  So, too, is using an apparently odd result against FCD Red.  DT Central is losing JDL games by at least 3 on a regular basis. Of the other JDL teams with common games/opponents, I would suggest that only Kicks Selacao and LP Elite routinely beat some of the JDL teams. Fever might scratch out an occasional win. Sting West and Grey are good, but you are suggesting they are better than Hig and Parsons who just tied.

I say more jokes about JDL being a secret league and not posting scores. Quality humor 2 months ago and quality humor now. Keep it going!

"Using DT Central as your baseline is a joke.  So, too, is using an apparently odd result against FCD Red.  DT Central is losing JDL games by at least 3 on a regular basis. Of the other JDL teams with common games/opponents, I would suggest that only Kicks Selacao and LP Elite routinely beat some of the JDL teams. Fever might scratch out an occasional win. Sting West and Grey are good, but you are suggesting they are better than Hig and Parsons who just tied."

I'm a stats and scores kind of guy. Using DT Central as a JDL#2 team barometer is definitely spot on when comparing all the JDL#2 teams. DT Central currently sits #16 in LHD1 with 2 wins and 6 losses. Other than their win over #7 Solar Byars 3-0 (perhaps  a little CPP help?), the rest of their record is very unimpressive. For their other 7 LH games, they have scored only 3 goals and given up 12 goals.  Their only additional win this Fall in LH came against #20 Revolution. How JDL teams #2 or even #1 compete against DTC can definitely be measured and compared to LHGCL level of play.

As for Kicks Selecao and LP Elite, I believe they each easily beat all JDL #2 teams. Also probably beat FCD Red and Sting Higgy most times. Solar Colvin probably a step stronger. DT South is king.

Don Draper wrote:"Using DT Central as your baseline is a joke.  So, too, is using an apparently odd result against FCD Red.  DT Central is losing JDL games by at least 3 on a regular basis. Of the other JDL teams with common games/opponents, I would suggest that only Kicks Selacao and LP Elite routinely beat some of the JDL teams. Fever might scratch out an occasional win. Sting West and Grey are good, but you are suggesting they are better than Hig and Parsons who just tied."

I'm a stats and scores kind of guy. Using DT Central as a JDL#2 team barometer is definitely spot on when comparing all the JDL#2 teams. DT Central currently sits #16 in LHD1 with 2 wins and 6 losses. Other than their win over #7 Solar Byars 3-0 (perhaps  a little CPP help?), the rest of their record is very unimpressive. For their other 7 LH games, they have scored only 3 goals and given up 12 goals.  Their only additional win this Fall in LH came against #20 Revolution. How JDL teams #2 or even #1 compete against DTC can definitely be measured and compared to LHGCL level of play.

As for Kicks Selecao and LP Elite, I believe they each easily beat all JDL #2 teams. Also probably beat FCD Red and Sting Higgy most times. Solar Colvin probably a step stronger. DT South is king.

You miss my point. DT Central is far below the other "JDL#2 teams," to the extent you can even differentiate them with any accuracy. DT Central's losses are far worse in JDL than in LH. And Pulp beat Colvin, right?  Yet, you assume Colvin is No. 1 Solar.  So who are the JDL#2 teams?

ForReal wrote:

Don Draper wrote:"Using DT Central as your baseline is a joke.  So, too, is using an apparently odd result against FCD Red.  DT Central is losing JDL games by at least 3 on a regular basis. Of the other JDL teams with common games/opponents, I would suggest that only Kicks Selacao and LP Elite routinely beat some of the JDL teams. Fever might scratch out an occasional win. Sting West and Grey are good, but you are suggesting they are better than Hig and Parsons who just tied."

I'm a stats and scores kind of guy. Using DT Central as a JDL#2 team barometer is definitely spot on when comparing all the JDL#2 teams. DT Central currently sits #16 in LHD1 with 2 wins and 6 losses. Other than their win over #7 Solar Byars 3-0 (perhaps  a little CPP help?), the rest of their record is very unimpressive. For their other 7 LH games, they have scored only 3 goals and given up 12 goals.  Their only additional win this Fall in LH came against #20 Revolution. How JDL teams #2 or even #1 compete against DTC can definitely be measured and compared to LHGCL level of play.

As for Kicks Selecao and LP Elite, I believe they each easily beat all JDL #2 teams. Also probably beat FCD Red and Sting Higgy most times. Solar Colvin probably a step stronger. DT South is king.

You miss my point. DT Central is far below the other "JDL#2 teams," to the extent you can even differentiate them with any accuracy. DT Central's losses are far worse in JDL than in LH. And Pulp beat Colvin, right?  Yet, you assume Colvin is No. 1 Solar.  So who are the JDL#2 teams?

Without fully knowing the JDL scores I would have placed
DTS central
FCD Blue
Solar Colvin
Sting Parsons
as the #2's. Just based off of a little knowledge and some hear say.

I forgive you for your comments on my common sense as I have called you "scum" before.
It takes a lot more than name calling or sarcasm to get under my skin.

KeeperCommander wrote:

Pele98 wrote:

SWINGIT!! wrote:

soccerphun wrote:Does anyone know any of the JDL scores from today?

Heard DTS 6-1 over FCD Red

Is that for real?  Didn't expect that. I thought it would be much closer game.

I heard Sting Higgy tied 1-1 vs Sting Parsons.

Wow that is much higher than I thought it would be too.  FCD Red usually starts kicking it into the stands way before it gets that bad.  
Sting Parsons and Hig, well maybe all the good teams are not as good as they once were.
But then again no one keeps these scores so they do not exist, much like 4-4-2's common sense.

ColtMcVince wrote:I say more jokes about JDL being a secret league and not posting scores.  Quality humor 2 months ago and quality humor now.  Keep it going!

Post the scores and the jokes go away. There is nothing to hide. Or is there?

lulu22 wrote:

KeeperCommander wrote:

Pele98 wrote:

SWINGIT!! wrote:

soccerphun wrote:Does anyone know any of the JDL scores from today?

Heard DTS 6-1 over FCD Red

Is that for real?  Didn't expect that. I thought it would be much closer game.

I heard Sting Higgy tied 1-1 vs Sting Parsons.

Wow that is much higher than I thought it would be too.  FCD Red usually starts kicking it into the stands way before it gets that bad.  
Sting Parsons and Hig, well maybe all the good teams are not as good as they once were.
But then again no one keeps these scores so they do not exist, much like 4-4-2's common sense.

Of Parsons and Hig, who was supposed to be the "good" one?

Good one? they are both "meh". I would give the edge to parsons, but I don't know how the teams were put together.

TatonkaBurger wrote:

ColtMcVince wrote:I say more jokes about JDL being a secret league and not posting scores.  Quality humor 2 months ago and quality humor now.  Keep it going!

Post the scores and the jokes go away.  There is nothing to hide.  Or is there?

Plenty of jokes going on over on the JDL forum.  Mostly at the expense of the folks over here on this forum...

bwgophers wrote:

TatonkaBurger wrote:

ColtMcVince wrote:I say more jokes about JDL being a secret league and not posting scores.  Quality humor 2 months ago and quality humor now.  Keep it going!

Post the scores and the jokes go away.  There is nothing to hide.  Or is there?

Plenty of jokes going on over on the JDL forum.  Mostly at the expense of the folks over here on this forum...

Well I am just glad they have something to talk over there. We are damn interesting people.