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CONGRATULATIONS Sting Black 06G AP
CONGRATULATIONS Sting Black 06G AP
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Hats off to the TD for a well run tourney despite the weather on Sunday! Also hats off to all of the teams in the Gold division. A lot of good soccer.
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Also, didn't they just acquire a few of the top SR players? #BS
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Re: CONGRATULATIONS Sting Black 06G AP
But something else happened at this tournament that shouldn't go unnoticed.
The brackets were built, the games were played and the semis were determined. As defined in the tournament rules Bracket A #1 would play Bracket B #2 and vice-versa. But that wasn't ok with the ever whining MS.
Apparently because his team would have to face Sting again in the semis and possibly not make the finals, he pressured the TD to change the semi brackets. For the first time in any tournament I've seen, the brackets were redrawn and the winners of each bracket faced off in the semis, ignoring results of the actual games played, as did the 2 number two's.
That's the only way MS and his team even advanced to the finals.
Before any of his minions decide to defend such BS, the argument is not that Solar and Sting were the best 2 teams in the Tournament.
(The other Sting team could argue otherwise)
The argument is simply this; the games were played, if you're going to change the overall intent of the tournament bracketing by ignoring results, why invite other teams to play the games?
Argument #2. Could anyone possibly imagine a scenario where the same thing would have happened if the teams involved were reversed?
This was some sleazy stuff...
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1st2it wrote:Congrats Sting Black, clearly the best of the group.
But something else happened at this tournament that shouldn't go unnoticed.
The brackets were built, the games were played and the semis were determined. As defined in the tournament rules Bracket A #1 would play Bracket B #2 and vice-versa. But that wasn't ok with the ever whining MS.
Apparently because his team would have to face Sting again in the semis and possibly not make the finals, he pressured the TD to change the semi brackets. For the first time in any tournament I've seen, the brackets were redrawn and the winners of each bracket faced off in the semis, ignoring results of the actual games played, as did the 2 number two's.
That's the only way MS and his team even advanced to the finals.
Before any of his minions decide to defend such BS, the argument is not that Solar and Sting were the best 2 teams in the Tournament.
(The other Sting team could argue otherwise)
The argument is simply this; the games were played, if you're going to change the overall intent of the tournament bracketing by ignoring results, why invite other teams to play the games?
Argument #2. Could anyone possibly imagine a scenario where the same thing would have happened if the teams involved were reversed?
This was some sleazy stuff...
#1) u90 policy is to rearrange and reseed teams so that there are not any repeat games, especially when the two top teams are to play each other in pool play when the weaker seeds have the easiest pool play setup. that has always been their "differentiating" marketing go-to.
#2) your team lost 7-0 to Solar. they deserved to be in the final when neither Spirit or Sting F played Sting Black in the opening round though they were all in the same bracket/pool? if either of those teams had to play SB in the opening round, you wouldn't have made the playoffs anyway so be happy you got an extra game.
#3) Per your TD, who seemed to turn his back on his own club (unless, gasp, there was a reason), the only reason why the #2 and #1 teams in the tournament were to play each other in bracket play (which never happens in any tournament) is because of the same reason in #1. if you played more u90 tournaments or high-level u90 tournaments, it wouldn't have been the first time you've seen.
#4) you expected Solar to play Sting Black twice before you even had to play them once? the best teams aren't supposed to play each other in the opening rounds. Was this your first tournament? You did get to play them once and you got crushed (with the addition of DTS non-rostered guest players I'm told, that no one complained about). There's something you don't see in a usual circumstance, either. So, what it really boils down to is you wanted to post some pictures on facebook with a medal. Not today!
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There also is no model for bracketing tournaments that gives zero advantage or disadvantage to any team. Luck of the draw, not whiners get their way. You want a pacifier to go with your running shoes?
and for the record...the tournament did not change on their own, there was whining from your coach
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Quality team, sissy coach
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1st2it wrote:Been doing this for a long time, not my first rodeo. Brackets are built with all contingencies considered. MS finished bracket play 1-1-1 and fewer points than another team in their bracket who finished with a record of 2-1-0. With a 6 team rotation the games were played as the brackets were drawn. With this number of teams there is no precedent to re-seed, with larger fields yes, but nice try.
There also is no model for bracketing tournaments that gives zero advantage or disadvantage to any team. Luck of the draw, not whiners get their way. You want a pacifier to go with your running shoes?
and for the record...the tournament did not change on their own, there was whining from your coach
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1st2it wrote:I never want to take anything away from any of the kids.
Quality team, sissy coach
I guess your TD while crumbling at the feet of sissy coach didn't show you his messages about how the seeds were reshuffled pre-tournament to avoid solar playing solar and sting playing sting, and as a result put black v black against each other with the guarantee they wouldn't in the playoffs. the third game between solar and sting part 1 didn't matter regardless of the result since solar would not replay sting in the semis no matter what. You guys just weren't in the loop because you weren't expected to advance
you totally should've been awarded a medal for giving up twice as many goals as you scored. Your premise is based on merit?
In what world does a TD change rules and a tournament set up just because a coach complains? Get real.
Maybe you should've brought DTS players in the game you lost by a touchdown.
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We'regonnalose wrote:1st2it wrote:Been doing this for a long time, not my first rodeo. Brackets are built with all contingencies considered. MS finished bracket play 1-1-1 and fewer points than another team in their bracket who finished with a record of 2-1-0. With a 6 team rotation the games were played as the brackets were drawn. With this number of teams there is no precedent to re-seed, with larger fields yes, but nice try.
There also is no model for bracketing tournaments that gives zero advantage or disadvantage to any team. Luck of the draw, not whiners get their way. You want a pacifier to go with your running shoes?
and for the record...the tournament did not change on their own, there was whining from your coach
You mean for the both of you, since neither of you won, right?
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Good one Buddha...for once you were funny.
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The tournament semis model was decided before play began and it was changed under pressure by one coach. Everyone knows this.
Not about better\worse team, all the teams played some good soccer over the weekend.
You might possibly have more credibility if you weren't throwing shade from the shadows.
Thought I poked a bear, turns out it was just a little kitty.
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Shake_and_Bake wrote:Here's a crazy idea, settle it on the field. Neither of you should be bragging about this weekend. Solar Black black tied Fuego which got beat by TSN 2-0...and had a 500 record in pool play. TSN laid an egg against Solar and surrendered a bunch of goals.
Good one Buddha...for once you were funny.
C'mon man, only once??
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We'regonnalose wrote:1st2it wrote:I never want to take anything away from any of the kids.
Quality team, sissy coach
I guess your TD while crumbling at the feet of sissy coach didn't show you his messages about how the seeds were reshuffled pre-tournament to avoid solar playing solar and sting playing sting, and as a result put black v black against each other with the guarantee they wouldn't in the playoffs. the third game between solar and sting part 1 didn't matter regardless of the result since solar would not replay sting in the semis no matter what. You guys just weren't in the loop because you weren't expected to advance
you totally should've been awarded a medal for giving up twice as many goals as you scored. Your premise is based on merit?
In what world does a TD change rules and a tournament set up just because a coach complains? Get real.
Maybe you should've brought DTS players in the game you lost by a touchdown.
This is pretty sorry because one girl from TSN broke her arm & another got knocked out of a game so they were short-handed. That is the only reason that DTS players were asked to help out.
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