Talent Pool

Zizou wrote:

KeeperCommander wrote:

Zizou wrote: Yes Then take it to the 05's forum and call it 05 talent pool. This might clear up some of your mud.

Maybe if you read for 10 years too, you would be educated in comprehension.

You might want to read the original post for the thread. Oh that might be way past your comprehension. Or maybe bring something to the conversation other than your ass-hole.

wazup wrote:So, because you saw "a couple" Rush kids out at FCD DA tryouts, you can extrapolate across the entire team?  If that's your claim, sir, you are an idiot.  For all you know, those kids were riding the pine at Rush.

And as for  whatever reason DTS girls are playing ECNL, nonetheless, the fact remains that numerous girls on that team could be playing DA for Texans, or likely a couple bumping girls from FCD or Solar.

Not arguing that FCD and Solar don't have some great talent - maybe 90% of the top 40.  Also fairly certain that a few of those girls could be replaced with better talent not playing DA.  Even if YOU ASSume that the 40 there are the best in NTX and no one in NTX could replace them, there is no doubt in my mind that well more than 6 on the Texans roster could be upgraded with girls from FCD or Solar ECNL, Feet, or DTS.

While your "knowledge" may be based on FCD and Solar, you then state that the 90% of talent landed on the 3 DA teams.

Just another case of BigE over-stating the numbers..  And by the way, ever track down those $100 movie channels?

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bwgophers wrote:It will be interesting to see how all this plays out, not just in NTX, but across the country, over the next few years.

If you look at DA & ECNL, there is a lot of geographic overlap between the 2 leagues, but it's not like DA came in and just flat out pillaged all of ECNL's clubs and players.  There's 69 DA clubs and 80 ECNL clubs right now.  Of the 69 DA clubs, only 17 are clubs that dropped ECNL to join DA, and then another 14 are doing both in 2017-2108.  So <1/2 of the DA has come directly at ECNL's expense.

Agree. I guess I was trying to state that IF that small margin of clubs dual-ling or tripling in leagues are the ones that are currently leading the nation in ECNL, what will that format represent in the future.

What will be interesting to see, is that you have the USSF, who's primary goal with DA is clearly self-serving - control/dictate the development pipeline for the USYNT/WNT in order to keep them on top of the world rankings.  College coaches and the DA clubs are ancillary beneficiaries of this, but when push comes to shove, will USSF put their own interests first, or the colleges/clubs?

USSF will put their own interests first. That will help empower the DA league itself. The ECNL kids will be passed over to a degree. In the local pool for the guys, and US calls to camp ~1% are non DA kids. I would imagine that the girls side will follow suit.

I do believe that the college system will only get better down the road as a result of kids being more prepared to play a certain way. Less direct, less keeper punting, more attempts to build from the back, etc. The curriculum after a full cycle of kids should shape the scene somewhat. I believe 04's will be the first official full cycle since I didn't notice the 05's schedule represented on the site yet.
As hard as it is for JDL parents (no score, no standings, etc) to deal with, the DA will be even harder. For the younger age groups their are no standings, and the tourneys are simply showcases. It takes a bit to get used too.

I don't see DA scoring a quick knockout of ECNL, as many predict, but rather I see this going at least a few rounds... er years...

Years for sure, and in the competition of things hopefully everyone finds success somewhere.

tpitty wrote:

bwgophers wrote:It will be interesting to see how all this plays out, not just in NTX, but across the country, over the next few years.

If you look at DA & ECNL, there is a lot of geographic overlap between the 2 leagues, but it's not like DA came in and just flat out pillaged all of ECNL's clubs and players.  There's 69 DA clubs and 80 ECNL clubs right now.  Of the 69 DA clubs, only 17 are clubs that dropped ECNL to join DA, and then another 14 are doing both in 2017-2108.  So <1/2 of the DA has come directly at ECNL's expense.

Agree. I guess I was trying to state that IF that small margin of clubs dual-ling or tripling in leagues are the ones that are currently leading the nation in ECNL, what will that format represent in the future.

What will be interesting to see, is that you have the USSF, who's primary goal with DA is clearly self-serving - control/dictate the development pipeline for the USYNT/WNT in order to keep them on top of the world rankings.  College coaches and the DA clubs are ancillary beneficiaries of this, but when push comes to shove, will USSF put their own interests first, or the colleges/clubs?

USSF will put their own interests first. That will help empower the DA league itself. The ECNL kids will be passed over to a degree. In the local pool for the guys, and US calls to camp ~1% are non DA kids. I would imagine that the girls side will follow suit.

I do believe that the college system will only get better down the road as a result of kids being more prepared to play a certain way. Less direct, less keeper punting, more attempts to build from the back, etc.  The curriculum after a full cycle of kids should shape the scene somewhat. I believe 04's will be the first official full cycle since I didn't notice the 05's schedule represented on the site yet.
As hard as it is for JDL parents (no score, no standings, etc) to deal with, the DA will be even harder. For the younger age groups their are no standings, and the tourneys are simply showcases. It takes a bit to get used too.

I don't see DA scoring a quick knockout of ECNL, as many predict, but rather I see this going at least a few rounds... er years...

Years for sure, and in the competition of things hopefully everyone finds success somewhere.

BigErn wrote:

tpitty wrote:

bwgophers wrote:It will be interesting to see how all this plays out, not just in NTX, but across the country, over the next few years.

If you look at DA & ECNL, there is a lot of geographic overlap between the 2 leagues, but it's not like DA came in and just flat out pillaged all of ECNL's clubs and players.  There's 69 DA clubs and 80 ECNL clubs right now.  Of the 69 DA clubs, only 17 are clubs that dropped ECNL to join DA, and then another 14 are doing both in 2017-2108.  So <1/2 of the DA has come directly at ECNL's expense.

Agree. I guess I was trying to state that IF that small margin of clubs dual-ling or tripling in leagues are the ones that are currently leading the nation in ECNL, what will that format represent in the future.

What will be interesting to see, is that you have the USSF, who's primary goal with DA is clearly self-serving - control/dictate the development pipeline for the USYNT/WNT in order to keep them on top of the world rankings.  College coaches and the DA clubs are ancillary beneficiaries of this, but when push comes to shove, will USSF put their own interests first, or the colleges/clubs?

USSF will put their own interests first. That will help empower the DA league itself. The ECNL kids will be passed over to a degree. In the local pool for the guys, and US calls to camp ~1% are non DA kids. I would imagine that the girls side will follow suit.

I do believe that the college system will only get better down the road as a result of kids being more prepared to play a certain way. Less direct, less keeper punting, more attempts to build from the back, etc.  The curriculum after a full cycle of kids should shape the scene somewhat. I believe 04's will be the first official full cycle since I didn't notice the 05's schedule represented on the site yet.
As hard as it is for JDL parents (no score, no standings, etc) to deal with, the DA will be even harder. For the younger age groups their are no standings, and the tourneys are simply showcases. It takes a bit to get used too.

I don't see DA scoring a quick knockout of ECNL, as many predict, but rather I see this going at least a few rounds... er years...

Years for sure, and in the competition of things hopefully everyone finds success somewhere.

Very well put tpitty and thanks for getting this thread back on track.

The DA U13s are a 'pilot' group so I'd guess that's the reason there isn't any schedule posted.

KeeperCommander wrote:

BigErn wrote:

tpitty wrote:

bwgophers wrote:It will be interesting to see how all this plays out, not just in NTX, but across the country, over the next few years.

If you look at DA & ECNL, there is a lot of geographic overlap between the 2 leagues, but it's not like DA came in and just flat out pillaged all of ECNL's clubs and players.  There's 69 DA clubs and 80 ECNL clubs right now.  Of the 69 DA clubs, only 17 are clubs that dropped ECNL to join DA, and then another 14 are doing both in 2017-2108.  So <1/2 of the DA has come directly at ECNL's expense.

Agree. I guess I was trying to state that IF that small margin of clubs dual-ling or tripling in leagues are the ones that are currently leading the nation in ECNL, what will that format represent in the future.

What will be interesting to see, is that you have the USSF, who's primary goal with DA is clearly self-serving - control/dictate the development pipeline for the USYNT/WNT in order to keep them on top of the world rankings.  College coaches and the DA clubs are ancillary beneficiaries of this, but when push comes to shove, will USSF put their own interests first, or the colleges/clubs?

USSF will put their own interests first. That will help empower the DA league itself. The ECNL kids will be passed over to a degree. In the local pool for the guys, and US calls to camp ~1% are non DA kids. I would imagine that the girls side will follow suit.

I do believe that the college system will only get better down the road as a result of kids being more prepared to play a certain way. Less direct, less keeper punting, more attempts to build from the back, etc.  The curriculum after a full cycle of kids should shape the scene somewhat. I believe 04's will be the first official full cycle since I didn't notice the 05's schedule represented on the site yet.
As hard as it is for JDL parents (no score, no standings, etc) to deal with, the DA will be even harder. For the younger age groups their are no standings, and the tourneys are simply showcases. It takes a bit to get used too.

I don't see DA scoring a quick knockout of ECNL, as many predict, but rather I see this going at least a few rounds... er years...

Years for sure, and in the competition of things hopefully everyone finds success somewhere.

Very well put tpitty and thanks for getting this thread back on track.

The DA U13s are a 'pilot' group so I'd guess that's the reason there isn't any schedule posted.

Several months back s similar thread was posted about colleges and what type of player they wanted. It was hammered into us that they do not want or need a skilled player. They want a fast athletic player that can score goals. I initially fought back with a skilled player will be very wanted in the college ranks but on deaf ears. Now you are saying that the DA will now all of a sudden make colleges change their strategies and go after skilled players. Oh you crafty fools. They will just go get the ECNL players now. Case solved.

BigErn wrote:

KeeperCommander wrote:

BigErn wrote:

tpitty wrote:

bwgophers wrote:It will be interesting to see how all this plays out, not just in NTX, but across the country, over the next few years.

If you look at DA & ECNL, there is a lot of geographic overlap between the 2 leagues, but it's not like DA came in and just flat out pillaged all of ECNL's clubs and players.  There's 69 DA clubs and 80 ECNL clubs right now.  Of the 69 DA clubs, only 17 are clubs that dropped ECNL to join DA, and then another 14 are doing both in 2017-2108.  So <1/2 of the DA has come directly at ECNL's expense.

Agree. I guess I was trying to state that IF that small margin of clubs dual-ling or tripling in leagues are the ones that are currently leading the nation in ECNL, what will that format represent in the future.

What will be interesting to see, is that you have the USSF, who's primary goal with DA is clearly self-serving - control/dictate the development pipeline for the USYNT/WNT in order to keep them on top of the world rankings.  College coaches and the DA clubs are ancillary beneficiaries of this, but when push comes to shove, will USSF put their own interests first, or the colleges/clubs?

USSF will put their own interests first. That will help empower the DA league itself. The ECNL kids will be passed over to a degree. In the local pool for the guys, and US calls to camp ~1% are non DA kids. I would imagine that the girls side will follow suit.

I do believe that the college system will only get better down the road as a result of kids being more prepared to play a certain way. Less direct, less keeper punting, more attempts to build from the back, etc.  The curriculum after a full cycle of kids should shape the scene somewhat. I believe 04's will be the first official full cycle since I didn't notice the 05's schedule represented on the site yet.
As hard as it is for JDL parents (no score, no standings, etc) to deal with, the DA will be even harder. For the younger age groups their are no standings, and the tourneys are simply showcases. It takes a bit to get used too.

I don't see DA scoring a quick knockout of ECNL, as many predict, but rather I see this going at least a few rounds... er years...

Years for sure, and in the competition of things hopefully everyone finds success somewhere.

Very well put tpitty and thanks for getting this thread back on track.

The DA U13s are a 'pilot' group so I'd guess that's the reason there isn't any schedule posted.

Several months back s similar thread was posted about colleges and what type of player they wanted. It was hammered into us that they do not want or need a skilled player. They want a fast athletic player that can score goals. I initially fought back with a skilled player will be very wanted in the college ranks but on deaf ears. Now you are saying that the DA will now all of a sudden make colleges change their strategies and go after skilled players. Oh you crafty fools. They will just go get the ECNL players now. Case solved.

Case?  Are we really this daft?  

College coaches look for both the technical player and the uber athletic player ... not one or the other.

No one, including tpitty here, said that DA will "all of the sudden" change anything.

BigErn wrote:

KeeperCommander wrote:

BigErn wrote:

tpitty wrote:

bwgophers wrote:It will be interesting to see how all this plays out, not just in NTX, but across the country, over the next few years.

If you look at DA & ECNL, there is a lot of geographic overlap between the 2 leagues, but it's not like DA came in and just flat out pillaged all of ECNL's clubs and players.  There's 69 DA clubs and 80 ECNL clubs right now.  Of the 69 DA clubs, only 17 are clubs that dropped ECNL to join DA, and then another 14 are doing both in 2017-2108.  So <1/2 of the DA has come directly at ECNL's expense.

Agree. I guess I was trying to state that IF that small margin of clubs dual-ling or tripling in leagues are the ones that are currently leading the nation in ECNL, what will that format represent in the future.

What will be interesting to see, is that you have the USSF, who's primary goal with DA is clearly self-serving - control/dictate the development pipeline for the USYNT/WNT in order to keep them on top of the world rankings.  College coaches and the DA clubs are ancillary beneficiaries of this, but when push comes to shove, will USSF put their own interests first, or the colleges/clubs?

USSF will put their own interests first. That will help empower the DA league itself. The ECNL kids will be passed over to a degree. In the local pool for the guys, and US calls to camp ~1% are non DA kids. I would imagine that the girls side will follow suit.

I do believe that the college system will only get better down the road as a result of kids being more prepared to play a certain way. Less direct, less keeper punting, more attempts to build from the back, etc.  The curriculum after a full cycle of kids should shape the scene somewhat. I believe 04's will be the first official full cycle since I didn't notice the 05's schedule represented on the site yet.
As hard as it is for JDL parents (no score, no standings, etc) to deal with, the DA will be even harder. For the younger age groups their are no standings, and the tourneys are simply showcases. It takes a bit to get used too.

I don't see DA scoring a quick knockout of ECNL, as many predict, but rather I see this going at least a few rounds... er years...

Years for sure, and in the competition of things hopefully everyone finds success somewhere.

Very well put tpitty and thanks for getting this thread back on track.

The DA U13s are a 'pilot' group so I'd guess that's the reason there isn't any schedule posted.

Several months back s similar thread was posted about colleges and what type of player they wanted. It was hammered into us that they do not want or need a skilled player. They want a fast athletic player that can score goals. I initially fought back with a skilled player will be very wanted in the college ranks but on deaf ears. Now you are saying that the DA will now all of a sudden make colleges change their strategies and go after skilled players. Oh you crafty fools. They will just go get the ECNL players now. Case solved.

Case?  Are we really this daft?  

College coaches look for both the technical player and the uber athletic player ... not one or the other.

No one, including tpitty here, said that DA will "all of the sudden" change anything.

BigErn wrote:

KeeperCommander wrote:

BigErn wrote:

tpitty wrote:

bwgophers wrote:It will be interesting to see how all this plays out, not just in NTX, but across the country, over the next few years.

If you look at DA & ECNL, there is a lot of geographic overlap between the 2 leagues, but it's not like DA came in and just flat out pillaged all of ECNL's clubs and players.  There's 69 DA clubs and 80 ECNL clubs right now.  Of the 69 DA clubs, only 17 are clubs that dropped ECNL to join DA, and then another 14 are doing both in 2017-2108.  So <1/2 of the DA has come directly at ECNL's expense.

Agree. I guess I was trying to state that IF that small margin of clubs dual-ling or tripling in leagues are the ones that are currently leading the nation in ECNL, what will that format represent in the future.

What will be interesting to see, is that you have the USSF, who's primary goal with DA is clearly self-serving - control/dictate the development pipeline for the USYNT/WNT in order to keep them on top of the world rankings.  College coaches and the DA clubs are ancillary beneficiaries of this, but when push comes to shove, will USSF put their own interests first, or the colleges/clubs?

USSF will put their own interests first. That will help empower the DA league itself. The ECNL kids will be passed over to a degree. In the local pool for the guys, and US calls to camp ~1% are non DA kids. I would imagine that the girls side will follow suit.

I do believe that the college system will only get better down the road as a result of kids being more prepared to play a certain way. Less direct, less keeper punting, more attempts to build from the back, etc.  The curriculum after a full cycle of kids should shape the scene somewhat. I believe 04's will be the first official full cycle since I didn't notice the 05's schedule represented on the site yet.
As hard as it is for JDL parents (no score, no standings, etc) to deal with, the DA will be even harder. For the younger age groups their are no standings, and the tourneys are simply showcases. It takes a bit to get used too.

I don't see DA scoring a quick knockout of ECNL, as many predict, but rather I see this going at least a few rounds... er years...

Years for sure, and in the competition of things hopefully everyone finds success somewhere.

Very well put tpitty and thanks for getting this thread back on track.

The DA U13s are a 'pilot' group so I'd guess that's the reason there isn't any schedule posted.

Several months back s similar thread was posted about colleges and what type of player they wanted. It was hammered into us that they do not want or need a skilled player. They want a fast athletic player that can score goals. I initially fought back with a skilled player will be very wanted in the college ranks but on deaf ears. Now you are saying that the DA will now all of a sudden make colleges change their strategies and go after skilled players. Oh you crafty fools. They will just go get the ECNL players now. Case solved.

Case?  Are we really this daft?  

College coaches look for both the technical player and the uber athletic player ... not one or the other.

No one, including tpitty here, said that DA will "all of the sudden" change anything.

BigErn wrote:Left out huh?  Good stuff.

The thing is, you responded to my post didn't ya there KC, so ...

If you're gonna reply, how bout you address the relevant comments made regarding your college coaches and sudden changes argument, rather than deflecting?  K?  ... Thanks buddy.

KeeperCommander wrote:

BigErn wrote:Left out huh?  Good stuff.

The thing is, you responded to my post didn't ya there KC, so ...

If you're gonna reply, how bout you address the relevant comments made regarding your college coaches and sudden changes argument, rather than deflecting?  K?  ... Thanks buddy.

If you happen to look back at the post several months ago jack wagon you would see what I am talking about. Let me explain again for slow class.
Several months ago the argument was athlete, athlete, athlete. College coaches don't want technical, they want big and powerful that can use the body. Now "all of a sudden" everyone just because of DA is talking about how college coaches will change to the technical player. Doesn't compute. Much like your wisdom on this matter.

KeeperCommander wrote:

BigErn wrote:Left out huh?  Good stuff.

The thing is, you responded to my post didn't ya there KC, so ...

If you're gonna reply, how bout you address the relevant comments made regarding your college coaches and sudden changes argument, rather than deflecting?  K?  ... Thanks buddy.

If you happen to look back at the post several months ago jack wagon you would see what I am talking about. Let me explain again for slow class.
Several months ago the argument was athlete, athlete, athlete. College coaches don't want technical, they want big and powerful that can use the body. Now "all of a sudden" everyone just because of DA is talking about how college coaches will change to the technical player. Doesn't compute. Much like your wisdom on this matter.

BigErn wrote:

KeeperCommander wrote:

BigErn wrote:Left out huh?  Good stuff.

The thing is, you responded to my post didn't ya there KC, so ...

If you're gonna reply, how bout you address the relevant comments made regarding your college coaches and sudden changes argument, rather than deflecting?  K?  ... Thanks buddy.

If you happen to look back at the post several months ago jack wagon you would see what I am talking about. Let me explain again for slow class.
Several months ago the argument was athlete, athlete, athlete. College coaches don't want technical, they want big and powerful that can use the body. Now "all of a sudden" everyone just because of DA is talking about how college coaches will change to the technical player. Doesn't compute. Much like your wisdom on this matter.

I hear ya KC -- You were frustrated that your opinion (which was half true) wasn't celebrated by the masses several months ago.  But again, this has zero relevance to my rely to your post.  

I'm gonna challenge you Sir to simply read through the posts in full you're replying to before writing ... Both tpitty's and mine implied nowhere that "all of the sudden" DA would change anything.  In fact tpitty referenced "down the road" for Christ's sake.  You're providing zip to this forum ... having a rough day ... haven't really gotten anything right.  Hows about we (proverbial) take a lil' break to regroup.

Please and thank you.

Zizou wrote:Wow, that comment was insensitive and completely un called for!