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KeeperCommander wrote:For the 03's this is probably spot on. Given the fact that these girls do not have a number next to their name stating where they stand in relation to another, it's also very speculative. However I agree with Clean on this.
For 05's and perhaps the 04's this will be less true. 04's might actually have an upper hand as far as DA percentage. Maybe 60/40.
The 05's is far less than that. Given the top team and players still play for Texans ECNL and FCD had to find players that couldn't make it at their present club, it's hilarious to think the top players chose DA this year.
Will next year be different? Yes I think the percentage will jump. Even for the 04's. The 00's and 01's? May not change much. In fact many that already have oral commitments will just ride it out with their team. Of course that is just my thoughts.
Is it confirmed that DTS finally elected ECNL? If so, the 05 Texans DA team would probably struggle against every 05 ECNL team. And since the Kicks are ECNL, I'd suggest that 05 ECNL will be stronger from top to bottom than the DA teams (before you go off, Solar and FCD will have good DA teams and I'm not suggesting they aren't better than most of the ECNL teams).
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KeeperCommander wrote:For the 03's this is probably spot on. Given the fact that these girls do not have a number next to their name stating where they stand in relation to another, it's also very speculative. However I agree with Clean on this.
For 05's and perhaps the 04's this will be less true. 04's might actually have an upper hand as far as DA percentage. Maybe 60/40.
The 05's is far less than that. Given the top team and players still play for Texans ECNL and FCD had to find players that couldn't make it at their present club, it's hilarious to think the top players chose DA this year.
Will next year be different? Yes I think the percentage will jump. Even for the 04's. The 00's and 01's? May not change much. In fact many that already have oral commitments will just ride it out with their team. Of course that is just my thoughts.
The Texans DA teams in 04 and 05 are not going to be competitive compared to the other DA teams and will probably be weaker than all 5 ECNL teams. That's not an obvious talent migration to DA in the age groups IMHO. 2 strong DTS teams and 2 strong D'Feeters teams keeps ECNL very competitive in u13 and u14. At least for a couple of years.
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Texans DA teams in those ages will be extremely weak in comparison. Several ECNL teams will be competitive against all DA in those age groups. IMO.TatonkaBurger wrote:KeeperCommander wrote:For the 03's this is probably spot on. Given the fact that these girls do not have a number next to their name stating where they stand in relation to another, it's also very speculative. However I agree with Clean on this.
For 05's and perhaps the 04's this will be less true. 04's might actually have an upper hand as far as DA percentage. Maybe 60/40.
The 05's is far less than that. Given the top team and players still play for Texans ECNL and FCD had to find players that couldn't make it at their present club, it's hilarious to think the top players chose DA this year.
Will next year be different? Yes I think the percentage will jump. Even for the 04's. The 00's and 01's? May not change much. In fact many that already have oral commitments will just ride it out with their team. Of course that is just my thoughts.
The Texans DA teams in 04 and 05 are not going to be competitive compared to the other DA teams and will probably be weaker than all 5 ECNL teams. That's not an obvious talent migration to DA in the age groups IMHO. 2 strong DTS teams and 2 strong D'Feeters teams keeps ECNL very competitive in u13 and u14. At least for a couple of years.
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DTS page says ECNL 05.ForReal wrote:KeeperCommander wrote:For the 03's this is probably spot on. Given the fact that these girls do not have a number next to their name stating where they stand in relation to another, it's also very speculative. However I agree with Clean on this.
For 05's and perhaps the 04's this will be less true. 04's might actually have an upper hand as far as DA percentage. Maybe 60/40.
The 05's is far less than that. Given the top team and players still play for Texans ECNL and FCD had to find players that couldn't make it at their present club, it's hilarious to think the top players chose DA this year.
Will next year be different? Yes I think the percentage will jump. Even for the 04's. The 00's and 01's? May not change much. In fact many that already have oral commitments will just ride it out with their team. Of course that is just my thoughts.
Is it confirmed that DTS finally elected ECNL? If so, the 05 Texans DA team would probably struggle against every 05 ECNL team. And since the Kicks are ECNL, I'd suggest that 05 ECNL will be stronger from top to bottom than the DA teams (before you go off, Solar and FCD will have good DA teams and I'm not suggesting they aren't better than most of the ECNL teams).
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TatonkaBurger wrote:KeeperCommander wrote:For the 03's this is probably spot on. Given the fact that these girls do not have a number next to their name stating where they stand in relation to another, it's also very speculative. However I agree with Clean on this.
For 05's and perhaps the 04's this will be less true. 04's might actually have an upper hand as far as DA percentage. Maybe 60/40.
The 05's is far less than that. Given the top team and players still play for Texans ECNL and FCD had to find players that couldn't make it at their present club, it's hilarious to think the top players chose DA this year.
Will next year be different? Yes I think the percentage will jump. Even for the 04's. The 00's and 01's? May not change much. In fact many that already have oral commitments will just ride it out with their team. Of course that is just my thoughts.
The Texans DA teams in 04 and 05 are not going to be competitive compared to the other DA teams and will probably be weaker than all 5 ECNL teams. That's not an obvious talent migration to DA in the age groups IMHO. 2 strong DTS teams and 2 strong D'Feeters teams keeps ECNL very competitive in u13 and u14. At least for a couple of years.
The more I hear about how DA vs ECNL flushed out this year, it seems that one of, if not the biggest influences on the decision process was the coach. If the ECNL coach moved to DA, the players followed. If the coach stayed ECNL, the players stayed ECNL.
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bwgophers wrote:TatonkaBurger wrote:KeeperCommander wrote:For the 03's this is probably spot on. Given the fact that these girls do not have a number next to their name stating where they stand in relation to another, it's also very speculative. However I agree with Clean on this.
For 05's and perhaps the 04's this will be less true. 04's might actually have an upper hand as far as DA percentage. Maybe 60/40.
The 05's is far less than that. Given the top team and players still play for Texans ECNL and FCD had to find players that couldn't make it at their present club, it's hilarious to think the top players chose DA this year.
Will next year be different? Yes I think the percentage will jump. Even for the 04's. The 00's and 01's? May not change much. In fact many that already have oral commitments will just ride it out with their team. Of course that is just my thoughts.
The Texans DA teams in 04 and 05 are not going to be competitive compared to the other DA teams and will probably be weaker than all 5 ECNL teams. That's not an obvious talent migration to DA in the age groups IMHO. 2 strong DTS teams and 2 strong D'Feeters teams keeps ECNL very competitive in u13 and u14. At least for a couple of years.
The more I hear about how DA vs ECNL flushed out this year, it seems that one of, if not the biggest influences on the decision process was the coach. If the ECNL coach moved to DA, the players followed. If the coach stayed ECNL, the players stayed ECNL.
And most of those coach decisions were based on license, or lack thereof.
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" FCD had to find players that couldn't make it at their present club." Not sure that is an accurate assessment. In general, the top talent at ECNL could have made DA, but for 1 reason or another (1) did not try out or (2) were committed to stay with current coach or (3) did not want the time commitment to 1 sport . How will DA and ECNL teams compare to the other teams in their perspective region?
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Reading too much into statement. Yes they do have good talent and some players that definitely deserve to be there. I know of several players that were not on top teams and ended up on DA teams. This could have happened for several reasons. 1) They truly were good but were behind a better player. 2) Were over looked perhaps 3) Like you said, they were willing to give up what some of the better players were not willing to give up.cr7futbol wrote:KC,
" FCD had to find players that couldn't make it at their present club." Not sure that is an accurate assessment. In general, the top talent at ECNL could have made DA, but for 1 reason or another (1) did not try out or (2) were committed to stay with current coach or (3) did not want the time commitment to 1 sport . How will DA and ECNL teams compare to the other teams in their perspective region?
It's sad to say but, the top talent in 05 is in ECNL.
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KeeperCommander wrote:Reading too much into statement. Yes they do have good talent and some players that definitely deserve to be there. I know of several players that were not on top teams and ended up on DA teams. This could have happened for several reasons. 1) They truly were good but were behind a better player. 2) Were over looked perhaps 3) Like you said, they were willing to give up what some of the better players were not willing to give up.cr7futbol wrote:KC,
" FCD had to find players that couldn't make it at their present club." Not sure that is an accurate assessment. In general, the top talent at ECNL could have made DA, but for 1 reason or another (1) did not try out or (2) were committed to stay with current coach or (3) did not want the time commitment to 1 sport . How will DA and ECNL teams compare to the other teams in their perspective region?
It's sad to say but, the top talent in 05 is in ECNL.
Disagree.
My basis: Kiddos who routinely attended the Training Center at SMU, and where they currently signed.
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That makes no sense.tpitty wrote:KeeperCommander wrote:Reading too much into statement. Yes they do have good talent and some players that definitely deserve to be there. I know of several players that were not on top teams and ended up on DA teams. This could have happened for several reasons. 1) They truly were good but were behind a better player. 2) Were over looked perhaps 3) Like you said, they were willing to give up what some of the better players were not willing to give up.cr7futbol wrote:KC,
" FCD had to find players that couldn't make it at their present club." Not sure that is an accurate assessment. In general, the top talent at ECNL could have made DA, but for 1 reason or another (1) did not try out or (2) were committed to stay with current coach or (3) did not want the time commitment to 1 sport . How will DA and ECNL teams compare to the other teams in their perspective region?
It's sad to say but, the top talent in 05 is in ECNL.
Disagree.
My basis: Kiddos who routinely attended the Training Center at SMU, and where they currently signed.
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BigErn wrote:CBTeamworks wrote:LOL at some who feel that DA is a huge level above ECNL. Newsflash: DA doesn't get all the kids that they want. DA requires a significant level of sole dedication and investment in a single activity while excluding all other opportunities and experiences (like school sports, etc...) Some kids and families just don't want to play DA. That leaves a significant talent pool in ECNL. DA is slightly better than ECNL in talent but significantly better in perception.
Like you CBT, we thought this ^ would be the case, but as much as it seems you'd like it to be true, it just didn't work that way --
The level between the DA and ECNL sides locally at U13-U15 aren't close ..... at all.
And since we're all adults here (might be a reach), how bout we leave the use of "LOL"s and "Newsflash"es to our daughters ... K?
Just getting a reality check here.
Given your statement that the DA and ECNL sides locally, in U13, U14, AND U15 aren't close - AT ALL - are you saying the 3 DA teams in each age group are better than all 5 ECNL teams? Or only 2?
Would you say that DA is CLEARLY above ECNL if, say, all 5 ECNL teams in an age group are better than one of the DA teams?
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Forget about teams. Look at the actual players. Just because one team can beat another it doesn't mean they got all the top talent in age division. It just means all the talent that came out to tryouts. Which I am sorry to say was less than anticipated. If your DD made a DA team, awesome. If she is still there in 2-3 years then she has proven to be the real deal. I am not trying to lessen the achievement. Just go watch some ECNL games and you will see plenty of talent that could been there if they chose to.cr7futbol wrote:Ok, Let's look at it this way. Solar DA > Solar ECNL, Texans DA < Texans ECNL, FCD DA > FCD ECNL, then you still have Feet/Kicks and Sting ECNL. Still more teams and kids in ECNL but outside of Texans not sure you can say ECNL 05 is greater than DA. For ECNL just one persons very early ECNL Ranks 1. Texans 2. Feet/Kicks 3A Solar 3B FCD and 5. Sting. If you use this then you still have DA over ECNL with question of ARE the DA teams better than Texans and Feet/Kicks? Time will provide these answers.
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How do we know FCD DA> FCD ECNL? Same with SolarDA>Solar ECNL?cr7futbol wrote:Ok, Let's look at it this way. Solar DA > Solar ECNL, Texans DA < Texans ECNL, FCD DA > FCD ECNL, then you still have Feet/Kicks and Sting ECNL. Still more teams and kids in ECNL but outside of Texans not sure you can say ECNL 05 is greater than DA. For ECNL just one persons very early ECNL Ranks 1. Texans 2. Feet/Kicks 3A Solar 3B FCD and 5. Sting. If you use this then you still have DA over ECNL with question of ARE the DA teams better than Texans and Feet/Kicks? Time will provide these answers.
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KeeperCommander wrote:Ziz the insanity police have been called. You sir have reached a new level.
KC, been playing this game now for 10 years. My DD and I have been through all the changes. I speak from experience. What's your excuse?
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SWINGIT!! wrote:How do we know FCD DA> FCD ECNL? Same with SolarDA>Solar ECNL?cr7futbol wrote:Ok, Let's look at it this way. Solar DA > Solar ECNL, Texans DA < Texans ECNL, FCD DA > FCD ECNL, then you still have Feet/Kicks and Sting ECNL. Still more teams and kids in ECNL but outside of Texans not sure you can say ECNL 05 is greater than DA. For ECNL just one persons very early ECNL Ranks 1. Texans 2. Feet/Kicks 3A Solar 3B FCD and 5. Sting. If you use this then you still have DA over ECNL with question of ARE the DA teams better than Texans and Feet/Kicks? Time will provide these answers.
That's funny,
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You are speaking out of your ass.Zizou wrote:KeeperCommander wrote:Ziz the insanity police have been called. You sir have reached a new level.
KC, been playing this game now for 10 years. My DD and I have been through all the changes. I speak from experience. What's your excuse?
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