Re: Human Rankings until FBR is back

by soccerman75 01/02/12, 09:29 am

Not sure the outcome of this weekend's tournament will matter much given the funcky seedings but the head to head games will. Dynamo and DT South would be expected to beat Polaris and Fever so not sure you could drop either team in rankings given they are playing higher ranked opponents. That being said, I think both games will be excellent soccer and the outcomes potentially surpising. If any of the top 8 in gold lose to any other teams then yes it should impact their ranking. The Lubbock team is tough and scrappy and could possible give Dynamo and Polaris fits in that bracket. Sting Dunstan plays good soccer as well so could be a dark horse for a spoiler in that bracket but Fever and South probably too much. Hopefully it won't rain this thing out so we can see how it unfolds.

by oldboot 01/02/12, 02:51 pm

Polardad02 wrote:
Soccerdad02 wrote:
kickingrass wrote:
1crazysoccermom wrote:1. FCD Grubb
2. SRSA
3. DT Higg
4. DT South
5. Solar Dynamo
6. Fever Red
7. Defeeters
8. FCD Renfro
9. Polaris
10. Sting Searls
11. TX Spirit
12. Liverpool StJohn
13. DT Moreno
14. Solar Gio
15. Waco Blast
16. Sting Dunstan
17. Solar Barnes
18. TFC Elite
19. Solar Jones
20. TFC Larry

Here is my opinion on where teams should be ranked. I think some have Polaris at this time ranked to high. I commend them for their great showing this weekend but they only won the silver bracket. They haven't played the top 10 teams and won. This weekend will be their test. If they do well then I think they might just need to move on up. I moved Moreno down with all the up in the air with this team I am not sure they will be able to make games in a few weeks let alone be a team. I think TX Spirit needs to move up for winning against LP. LP StJohn losing to TX Spirit in the finals and tying LP Dalglish drops them in my rankings. LP StJohn should have won hands down. I moved Sting up into the top 10. I think with all their new addition this team is going to move on up.

This weekend will shake up the bottom 5 and down. It will be a very interesting weekend that is for sure.

Polaris has beaten a top ten team!!!!! Dt Moreno was ranked 6th on FBR and they had Higgy goalie and 4-5 field players playing that game with them. Very even game till second half when Polaris dominated. Polaris has several shots on goal. DT Moreno had none. I don't think Polaris is ranked too low, just underestimated in what this team is capable of. Spring will definitely tell the story for this Polaris team. Good Luck to everyone.

I am not trying to take anything away from Polaris because I really like their parents and coach and am really impressed how far they have come and think they are diffently a top ten team. BUT....At the Moreno game there were two new players and two higg players including the goalie at that game NOT 4-5 field players that kickinthegrass keeps stating.
I hear ya 02 Dad, but DT Moreno was no slouch whoever they had on the field. Solid team.

Moreno looked good to me - why can't the naysayers leave that team alone?

by iheartfutbol 02/02/12, 03:22 pm

Since 99% of the Human Polls are by 02 parents, what does everyone think about a rule that either you can't rank your DD's team, or if you must include them in your "unbiased poll," the pollster should asterisk or otherwise identify his/her DD's team when they rank. Just an idea. On second thought, never mind, it's more fun to use the human poll to self-promote your own team. Carry on...

by Half-Caff 02/02/12, 04:56 pm

Agreed! But what other team has their coach begin a ranking by moving his team from #11 to the #7 spot.
I guess I could get on here and start promoting my dd's club but I prefer she leave it on the field. (' Twisted Evil

')

by soccerman75 02/02/12, 08:08 pm

Bold stuff there half-calf with two posts, I assume you have an axe to grind since you are calling someone out? Be interesting to have some background???

by Sole roll 03/02/12, 01:22 am

Half-Caff wrote:Agreed! But what other team has their coach begin a ranking by moving his team from #11 to the #7 spot.
I guess I could get on here and start promoting my dd's club but I prefer she leave it on the field. ('')

by futbollove 03/02/12, 08:55 am

soccerman75 wrote:Bold stuff there half-calf with two posts, I assume you have an axe to grind since you are calling someone out? Be interesting to have some background???

But you've got to admit, it was a little funny.

by Guest 03/02/12, 01:08 pm

Half-Caff wrote:Agreed! But what other team has their coach begin a ranking by moving his team from #11 to the #7 spot.
I guess I could get on here and start promoting my dd's club but I prefer she leave it on the field. ('')

Well where should they be in the line?

by RedBull 05/02/12, 10:51 pm

dirknowitzki wrote:1. SRSA (fierce, but long ball reliance a worry against teams with very fast back line, new coach, new adreneline)
2. FCD Grubb (total package, really good coaching)
3. DT Higg* (* until they play 02 girls, they may just sit at #3 or 4 or 5 until proven otherwise, but watchout for the return of the Huns)
4. DT South (on a roll last fall, are they ready to challenge the big 3?)
5. Solar Dynamo (good coach results in best passing-possession in league but smaller kids than rest of top 10)

6. Defeeters (no clear slots IMHO 6 - 10 but Feet have good potential, rumor is need 2 players...)
7. Polaris (giving a lot of credit for one 1-0 result and good silver tourneys in a row - need to win it all this next weekend to stay here)
8. Liverpool St John (clinging on but might be falling soon - not sure where they are at after Liverpool move)
9. Fever Red (could be rising soon, need to see in action)
10. FCD Renfro (tough defense need more offense)

11. DT Moreno (will it stay together? team most likely to fold? will they find at least 4 more good fulltime playrs? If they do, they will move up)
12. TX Spirit (big and aggressive)
13. Sting Searls (in limbo ranking until all the new recruit are seen playing together)
14. Waco Blast (hard to find where they should land)
15. Sting Dunstan (like the coaching)

16. TFC Elite
17. Solar Gio (on the rise, finishing in tournaments)
18. Solar Barnes (very physical)
19. Solar Jones
20. Cosmos (tough team)

21. TFC Larry
22. DT Vigil (rough go recently but may come back)
23. Sting West OKeefe
24. Sting Parker (poised to move up)
25. FCD Palm

26. XLR8 (underrated by many)
27. Fever White
28. Dynasty
29. Solar Stark (getting better fast)
30. FCD Barakat

After two weekends of tournaments and encl what changes in rankings have happen?

by TheEasterBunny 05/02/12, 11:42 pm

Here is my first go at the top 15.

1. FCD Premier (just like how they play. may not win every game, but they win most.)
2. Higgy (always tough and seems to have a lot of talent to choose from)
3. SRSA (gotta respect the results. but rumors are abound. how long do they remain here)
4. South (good team. fast up top and even faster at the sweeper position. really hard to score on)
5. Fever (the tie to South says a lot. probably over looked because they are not a big club)

6. Polaris (gotta give a bit of respect. they are playing well)
7. Dynamo (once these girls hit their growth spurt....watch out!)
8. Liverpool Rangel- (played well this weekend, but were they playing with their players)
9. Moreno- Still has some really good talent. just gotta wait and see)
10. Waco, Renfro or Searls? Waco is playing TGPL so we will see how they do....same with Searls. Renfro made it to the finals this weekend, but didn't do too well, and didn't do too well in the previous tournament. so, which team are they?)

13. Feet- (tough couple of tourneys)
14. Solar Gio- (another tournament win this week albeit in the easier tournament. some new additions have sparked this team.)
15. NTX Spirit- (hear good things)

There ya go. Bash away!

by javajake 06/02/12, 07:32 am

Here's my take at it given the new info from last weekend-

1. FCD Grubb (rock solid)
2. SRSA Colvin (will all kids stay is a big ? with Webb out)
3. DT South (moved up with Higg hiding out)
4. DT Higg (in hiding but you know they are out there)
5. Fever Red Penn (good weekend, tough seeding)

6. Polaris (they be for real, hard to score against)
7. Solar Dynamo (stubbed toe a bit last weekend)
8. Liverpool St John (proved solid in top 10 discussion)
9. FCD Renfro (not sure how much of good weekend was due to guests from DT Moreno)
10. Defeeters (dropping off a bit, not a good showing)

11. Solar Gio (winning easier tournaments, can't rise more until they play tougher competition)
12. TX Spirit
13. Sting Searls (missing in action, want to see all the new group soon)
14. Waco Blast
15. TFC Elite

Not ranked - DT Moreno (on life-support, not playing primetime, needed guests to even play 11v11, feels like its over?)

by soccerman75 06/02/12, 08:17 am

Pretty solid overall, only questionable area would be Gio at 11, they don't seem to be real motivated to jump in the deep end of the pool and need to prove they can keep a roster together, I see Waco, Spirit, Searls, and TFC well ahead of them. Fever is closer to where they should be, agree on Polaris comments, very tough to get in the net against and deserving of the upward movement, Renfro a completely different team with guests so who knows what that really looks like. Spring will be fun.

by 02SuburbanSoccerDad 06/02/12, 08:52 am

I had a chance to see a bunch of teams play this weekend (Fever, DT South, Renfro, Sprirt North, Dynamo, Liverpool Rangel, Polaris, TFC Elite, so this is at least a decent 'educated' guess as to where they stand going into League Play.

1. FCD Premier....doing very well against 01's & 02's--enough said
2. DT Rowdies...They always stay together and are so talented. Fun to watch
3. SRSA Colvin..again for now..if they lose a couple pieces I think DT South is better
4. DT South...all they do is win. Speed, offense, defense, tough to play against
5. Fever Red Penn...tied South, love how they play. They are really good.
6. Polaris...beat Dynamo and had a great, great weekend. Also fun to watch.
7. Liverpool Rangel..no team plays with more effort/energy. Good weekend. Need a scorer.
8. Solar Dynamo...I think Polaris/Liverpool/Dynamo are even steven..flip a coin
9. D'feeters..more so on past than this weekend. Battle tested, but trouble scoring
10. FCD Renfro...great weekend with guests..couldn't score last weekend without guests.

Just outside the Top 10...Sting Searls, TX Spirit, Solar Gio, TFC Elite

by javajake 06/02/12, 09:13 am

soccerman75 wrote:Pretty solid overall, only questionable area would be Gio at 11, they don't seem to be real motivated to jump in the deep end of the pool and need to prove they can keep a roster together, I see Waco, Spirit, Searls, and TFC well ahead of them. Fever is closer to where they should be, agree on Polaris comments, very tough to get in the net against and deserving of the upward movement, Renfro a completely different team with guests so who knows what that really looks like. Spring will be fun.

Yeah putting Gio up is a bit aggressive but I don't want to get caught out on "Gio is like Polaris II da sequel" story. Polaris was building confidence eating up silver brackets and bamm they arrived in top 10. Gio is doing that same thing now. Confidence is a powerful thing and the Gio girls gotta have it after trophys in 3? in a row. They need to take on tougher soon.On the thought of tougher competition, does TGPL allow teams like Searls to share girls between his teams in gold and silver? If yes, it will be difficult to know how tough a certain team will be on a given week if they are pooling 20+ players.

by soccerman75 06/02/12, 09:21 am

Well said, look forward to Gio stepping up and trying it out. Not sure on TGPL, I would assume rosters are set but someone wiser than me will need to answer that one.

by scoregazam 06/02/12, 09:56 am

1 FC Dallas Premier Grubb...Just too good right now
2 DT Higgy...still in top 3
3 DT South Adames...cracked the top 3
4 SRSA...see what happens?
5 Fever Red Penn...many said ranked to low, they were right
6 Polaris Finger...many said ranked to high, they were wrong
7 Liverpool St Johns Rangel...coming together nicely
8 FC Dallas Renfro...have to prove they can score w/o guests
9 Solar Dynamo Stark...rough weekend,still better than this,will be moving up again
10 Sting Searls...looking forward to seeing new additions
11 D' Feeters Scarfoneb...bad couple of weeks
12 DT Moreno...depends on how many guests they have
13 TX Spirit North Polichetti...up and coming, or just a good run? Lets see
14 Waco Blast Perez...always stout enough to compete with most
15 Sting East Dunston...solid
16 Dynasty SC ...silver brkt champs, if they learn possession a bit more watch out 10-15 teams
17 TFC Elite Wells
18 Solar Tarrant Gio...feasting on small tournys, but breeding confidence
19 Liverpool Thompson Fagen...tough loss to Dynasty. Only been together a few months
20 Solar East Barnes
21 DT Vigil
22 Solar Stark...lost to LP Thompson, but looking better as of late
23 XLR* McCallum...played some tough teams this weekend and survived
24 FC Premier
25 TFC Larry...improving
26 Solar Jones
27 Liverpool Hansen Savage...improving
28 Divas Segovia
29 FC Dallas Palmisano
30 Fever White Penn
31 DT FTW Powell
32 FC Dallas Kang
33 FC Dallas Barakat
34 Texas Thunder
35 Sting West O'keef...not the same team, to many players lost from last season
36 FWFC
37 Odyssey Blue
38 Cosmos Wallace
39 Liverpool Dalgish Waldrum
40 Galaxy SC Reyna
41 Sting Parker
42 Odyssey Blue
43 Cosmos Wallace
44 Solar Gold
45 Stephenville Swarm
46 Texas Extreme
47 GSSC Thunder South
48 IFC
49 Sting East Gutierrez
50 Crossroads

by DT4L 06/02/12, 10:15 am

scoregazam wrote:1 FC Dallas Premier Grubb...On another level. Teams are tring to catch them, but so far no one can!
2. SARA-always a top 3 till someone can take it from them 3. DT-Higg- my hide but when they come out be prepared!
4. DT.South- Needs to beat 2 of the big three this spring to move up.
5. Fever Red Penn...many said ranked to low, they were right
6. Polaris Finger...many said ranked to high, they were wrong
7. Liverpool St Johns Rangel...coming together nicely
8. FC Dallas Renfro...with new DD that team will be fun to watch.
9. Solar Dynamo Stark...rough weekend,still better than this,will be moving up again
10. Sting Searls...looking forward to seeing new additions
11. D' Feeters Scarfoneb...bad couple of weeks
12. DT Moreno...depends on how many guests they have
13. TX Spirit North Polichetti...up and coming, or just a good run? Lets see
14. Waco Blast Perez...always stout enough to compete with most
15 Sting East Dunston...solid
16 Dynasty SC ...silver brkt champs, if they learn possession a bit more watch out 10-15 teams
17. TFC Elite Wells
18. Solar Tarrant Gio...feasting on small tournys, but breeding confidence
19. Liverpool Thompson Fagen...tough loss to Dynasty. Only been together a few months
20. Solar East Barnes
21. DT Vigil
22. Solar Stark...lost to LP Thompson, but looking better as of late
23. XLR* McCallum...played some tough teams this weekend and survived
24. FC Premier
25. TFC Larry...improving
26. Solar Jones
27 Liverpool Hansen Savage...improving
28 Divas Segovia
29 FC Dallas Palmisano
30 Fever White Penn
31 DT FTW Powell
32 FC Dallas Kang
33 FC Dallas Barakat
34 Texas Thunder
35 Sting West O'keef...not the same team, to many players lost from last season
36 FWFC
37 Odyssey Blue
38 Cosmos Wallace
39 Liverpool Dalgish Waldrum
40 Galaxy SC Reyna
41 Sting Parker
42 Odyssey Blue
43 Cosmos Wallace
44 Solar Gold
45 Stephenville Swarm
46 Texas Extreme
47 GSSC Thunder South
48 IFC
49 Sting East Gutierrez
50 Crossroads

by Sole roll 06/02/12, 10:21 am

soccerman75 wrote:Pretty solid overall, only questionable area would be Gio at 11, they don't seem to be real motivated to jump in the deep end of the pool and need to prove they can keep a roster together, I see Waco, Spirit, Searls, and TFC well ahead of them. Fever is closer to where they should be, agree on Polaris comments, very tough to get in the net against and deserving of the upward movement, Renfro a completely different team with guests so who knows what that really looks like. Spring will be fun.

You sound like Polaris coach? Or is that kickingrass that started the rankings?

People are saying Polaris is hard to score against. Wonder what the planis is when their fast sweeper moves to North Dallas in March?

Polaris is getting some wins, so I will give them the credit for top 10, but I watched them play this weekend and it is definitely "send it" type soccer at it's finest. Send it to speed up top with defenders booting up field or kicking it out of bounds. Never saw 2 passes connected.

Did I catch them on 2 bad days, or is this how they generally play?

by soccerman75 06/02/12, 10:29 am

I think you must be watching with your jaded glasses from previous comments. I watched them play as well, the team passes the ball well. Are they Grubbs, no, are they moving the ball, yes. We get it, you have no love for Polaris, move on. As far as the sweeper, there is no sweeper, they play a flat 4 and everyone of them can fly from what I have seen plus a keeper that covers inch of the box. Gotta love the pot stirrers!!!

by EyesWideOpen 06/02/12, 10:32 am

Sole roll wrote:
soccerman75 wrote:Pretty solid overall, only questionable area would be Gio at 11, they don't seem to be real motivated to jump in the deep end of the pool and need to prove they can keep a roster together, I see Waco, Spirit, Searls, and TFC well ahead of them. Fever is closer to where they should be, agree on Polaris comments, very tough to get in the net against and deserving of the upward movement, Renfro a completely different team with guests so who knows what that really looks like. Spring will be fun.
You sound like Polaris coach? Or is that kickingrass that started the rankings?

People are saying Polaris is hard to score against. Wonder what the planis is when their fast sweeper moves to North Dallas in March?

Polaris is getting some wins, so I will give them the credit for top 10, but I watched them play this weekend and it is definitely "send it" type soccer at it's finest. Send it to speed up top with defenders booting up field or kicking it out of bounds. Never saw 2 passes connected.

Did I catch them on 2 bad days, or is this how they generally play?

Sole, you seem to know quite a bit about Polaris. How would you know where any of the players is going in March? You seem to know more than the team parents. Care to share?

by RedBull 06/02/12, 10:56 am

EyesWideOpen wrote:
Sole roll wrote:
soccerman75 wrote:Pretty solid overall, only questionable area would be Gio at 11, they don't seem to be real motivated to jump in the deep end of the pool and need to prove they can keep a roster together, I see Waco, Spirit, Searls, and TFC well ahead of them. Fever is closer to where they should be, agree on Polaris comments, very tough to get in the net against and deserving of the upward movement, Renfro a completely different team with guests so who knows what that really looks like. Spring will be fun.
You sound like Polaris coach? Or is that kickingrass that started the rankings?

People are saying Polaris is hard to score against. Wonder what the planis is when their fast sweeper moves to North Dallas in March?

Polaris is getting some wins, so I will give them the credit for top 10, but I watched them play this weekend and it is definitely "send it" type soccer at it's finest. Send it to speed up top with defenders booting up field or kicking it out of bounds. Never saw 2 passes connected.

Did I catch them on 2 bad days, or is this how they generally play?

Sole, you seem to know quite a bit about Polaris. How would you know where any of the players is going in March? You seem to know more than the team parents. Care to share?

Sole Roll may have something here! One player leaving, I am sure no other team has had this happen. Besides Polaris is just plain lucky, Sun got in keepers eye, all the other players fell down, so Polaris scored a lucky goal is what I hear. I mean really do they even know how to play soccer. Seems rec-ball to me, boot it and pray according to Sole Roll. I guess they don't have a clue what real soccer is, they are over hyped and should be ranked in the bottom of the whole age group. Nothin but a bunch of Tarrant county toe kickers. Where does this team come from and how dare they get lucky beating teams they should have no business being on the field with. Who do they think they are? Sole Roll I am with you on this team. But, I was so interested about Polaris being lucky and a team that obviously can't play soccer so, I looked at their got soccer history to see how bad they suck, like Sole Roll suggests.

They are 17-1 all the last games they have played and have scored 41 goals and allowed 3 against. Come on guys this teams stinks to high heaven and obviously Sole Roll is a soccer expert so let's get off the Polaris band wagon, according to their record, they suck. lol!

Yes this is sarcasm !!!!!!

Just my opinion based on what crap I read on this forum and the recorded records of the teams that are out there. Enjoy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by soccerman75 06/02/12, 11:01 am

LOL, love the sarcasm, keep it coming!

by tmcc 06/02/12, 11:07 am

I heard Polaris has special cleats that make them run faster, jump higher and boot the ball farther. I heard it on this forum, so you know it is true. Maybe they are illegal cleats and that is why Polaris is doing so well.

by soccerman75 06/02/12, 11:17 am

I think I saw flames coming from their shoes and a tank marked jet fuel on the sidelines, gotta be it! It could never be that they are just really good little soccer players, nah, has to be the rocket shoes.

by Guest 06/02/12, 12:32 pm

EyesWideOpen wrote:
Sole roll wrote:
soccerman75 wrote:Pretty solid overall, only questionable area would be Gio at 11, they don't seem to be real motivated to jump in the deep end of the pool and need to prove they can keep a roster together, I see Waco, Spirit, Searls, and TFC well ahead of them. Fever is closer to where they should be, agree on Polaris comments, very tough to get in the net against and deserving of the upward movement, Renfro a completely different team with guests so who knows what that really looks like. Spring will be fun.
You sound like Polaris coach? Or is that kickingrass that started the rankings?

People are saying Polaris is hard to score against. Wonder what the planis is when their fast sweeper moves to North Dallas in March?

Polaris is getting some wins, so I will give them the credit for top 10, but I watched them play this weekend and it is definitely "send it" type soccer at it's finest. Send it to speed up top with defenders booting up field or kicking it out of bounds. Never saw 2 passes connected.

Did I catch them on 2 bad days, or is this how they generally play?

Sole, you seem to know quite a bit about Polaris. How would you know where any of the players is going in March? You seem to know more than the team parents. Care to share?

Sole, think you caught "yourself" on two bad days! Get that taken care of be4 YOU check out Polaris again. bounce

by Sole roll 06/02/12, 12:53 pm

I never said kick ball with good fast athletes wouldn't win a lot of games. I also said I would give Polaris top ten credit based on their wins.

But are you trying to say that they move the ball well by connecting accurate passes up the field? Really?

Yeah, just keep watching the MLS while drinking kool-aid
Rolling Eyes

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