'02 Girls FBR Rankings - 2-28-12

soccerinsane wrote:First, a huge thanks to gophers again! You are either crazy or super nice--but whichever it might be, you are appreciated!

Second, uglydoll--I am not quite positive, but if by "them" you mean FC Dallas Kang, I think you might be looking at the points change, not ranking change. Looks to me like Kang did not move at all in rankings, but lost points--whatever that actually means. I (clearly) have no ability to describe the inner workings of the FBR, but I wondered the same thing until I realized those end columns were talking about two different things--rank and points. So that is my highly uneducated guess

Anyone with a better understanding--do I get personal bonus points for being close?

uglydoll wrote:

soccerinsane wrote:First, a huge thanks to gophers again! You are either crazy or super nice--but whichever it might be, you are appreciated!

Second, uglydoll--I am not quite positive, but if by "them" you mean FC Dallas Kang, I think you might be looking at the points change, not ranking change. Looks to me like Kang did not move at all in rankings, but lost points--whatever that actually means. I (clearly) have no ability to describe the inner workings of the FBR, but I wondered the same thing until I realized those end columns were talking about two different things--rank and points. So that is my highly uneducated guess

Anyone with a better understanding--do I get personal bonus points for being close?

Sorry I meant why did Parker move down when they only lost 1-0 to a much higher ranked team? I would have thought they would move up because they played well against a higher tier team.

bwgophers wrote:

uglydoll wrote:

soccerinsane wrote:First, a huge thanks to gophers again! You are either crazy or super nice--but whichever it might be, you are appreciated!

Second, uglydoll--I am not quite positive, but if by "them" you mean FC Dallas Kang, I think you might be looking at the points change, not ranking change. Looks to me like Kang did not move at all in rankings, but lost points--whatever that actually means. I (clearly) have no ability to describe the inner workings of the FBR, but I wondered the same thing until I realized those end columns were talking about two different things--rank and points. So that is my highly uneducated guess

Anyone with a better understanding--do I get personal bonus points for being close?

Sorry I meant why did Parker move down when they only lost 1-0 to a much higher ranked team? I would have thought they would move up because they played well against a higher tier team.

Actually, there is a problem. I'm working on correcting it now. Thanks for keeping me honest Uglydoll.

bwgophers wrote:

uglydoll wrote:

soccerinsane wrote:First, a huge thanks to gophers again! You are either crazy or super nice--but whichever it might be, you are appreciated!

Second, uglydoll--I am not quite positive, but if by "them" you mean FC Dallas Kang, I think you might be looking at the points change, not ranking change. Looks to me like Kang did not move at all in rankings, but lost points--whatever that actually means. I (clearly) have no ability to describe the inner workings of the FBR, but I wondered the same thing until I realized those end columns were talking about two different things--rank and points. So that is my highly uneducated guess

Anyone with a better understanding--do I get personal bonus points for being close?

Sorry I meant why did Parker move down when they only lost 1-0 to a much higher ranked team? I would have thought they would move up because they played well against a higher tier team.

Actually, there is a problem. I'm working on correcting it now. Thanks for keeping me honest Uglydoll.

Bierluva wrote:This one is for you UglyDoll! Oh and for you too Gophers!

Balotelli Fan wrote:On Jan. 20 02dad had Vigil team ranked 15th with a record of 5-11-5

Now on Feb 28 BW Gopher has them ranked 29th with a record of 4-7-3

bwgophers wrote:Yeah, the LP Rangel and DT Vigil fans are hatin' on me pretty bad right now, while the Polaris and Solar Gio fans are singing my praises...

02Dad actually sent me his FBR file from the last rankings he posted on 1/20/12. That file basically contains all of the fall league results + Nov/Dec tourneys.

By contrast, my rankings are currently based on Nov-Feb tourneys + the 1st couple of weeks of Spring league play.

I have compared 02Dad's data and my data, and I can tell you that the removal of last fall's league results is THE primary reason for the big differences in where LP Rangel, DT Vigil, Polaris, and Solar Gio are ranked.

There are some differences between the FBR settings that I use (historical from '01's) and 02Dad used last fall, but I have checked both ways (apply my settings to 02Dad's data, apply 02Dad's settings to my data) and those differences result in a maximum move of 2-3 spots for any team. Not even close to the 8-10 spots or more some of the above mentioned teams have moved.

Basically, LP Rangel and DT Vigil had a relatively weak tourney season (combination of strength of competition and results vs. that competition) compared to their fall league season. Polaris and Solar Gio had a much stronger tourney season compared to their fall league season, and the current rankings reflect that. Teams that had tourney results more in line with the quality of their league results from last fall didn't move much in the rankings. If their fortunes change through the Spring league season, the rankings will adjust accordingly.

Once we get roughly 5 weeks into the Spring league season, I am going to remove all Nov./Dec. tourney results from the database, and from that point forward, FBR will reflect the overall performance of the teams from Jan. 1, 2012 onward. This is essentially the same thing that I did leading up QT for the '01's last year.