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Re: Lake Highland's finest
Shotshagger wrote:Not sure why they're bothering with hearing. They'd be better off skipping straight to an optometrist.
For the guy tossed? More like straight to a shrink..
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Its Me wrote:twotone wrote:LHGCL ref assignor and ECNL ref assignor are two different people. it was said earlier that they are the same, but they are, in fact, different.
This is true as to the different assignor.
However, they are for the most part the same referees for Classic, Lake Highlands, High school, and ENCL.
Not really, well known that the LHGCL assignor uses his set of guys for that league. there's more crossover in Boys, HS, ECNL, and Pre-Academy, but the Girls assignor tends to freeze out guys that don't regularly work for him.
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Longing4agame wrote:Ed wrote:Shotshagger wrote:Flamethrower wrote:ok, so here is a issue. I usually DO NOT take up for Lake Highlands. I may have to to a extent this time. I am basing this opinion on hte original post saying " Lake highlands finest, now ECNL does not look so bad"
There is a simple issue to discuss here.. If a game in Lake Highlands or a ECNL game is played here, both leagues use the same referee assignor. The referee assignor owns the area.
I do not have a opinion on what happened out at the fields with parents , etc.. These are just the facts when it comes to who referees what.. there is no difference between LH refs and ECNL Refs.
I now understand why the ECNL parents pay mega-$ on airline tickets for their matches!
I say that in jest because, honestly, the level of reffing in D1 LHGCL is usually pretty good. That's why a bad one stands out. The U14 game was too fast for geriatric gentleman I mentioned yesterday; he would have had better luck on the semi-mighty-tots-level play I saw behind me Saturday on field two.
Nice. Cut down girls that did not have anything to do with you or your DDs game. Good way to prove you were one of the loudmouth jerks on field 3. Were you the loudmouth that got tossed for being a jackass or one that got away with it?
I can tell you the guy that was tossed is a referee himself. He made all valid points during the game. Someone had already gotten hurt and there was no foul even called on that play. It was ridiculous. Unless you were watching and listening to the entire game, you really can't have an opinion as to whether someone should or should not have been tossed. It's like catching the retaliation punch in a fight but not seeing what caused it. Unless you have a clear view of the entire situation, keep your uninformed opinion to yourself.
Shotshagger is right about one thing. Most of the time the referee's have been pretty good this year. The fact that this guy was so bad is why it stood out.
The tossed fan did make one point I disagreed with--he occasionally told the ref "Good call" even when it went against us! He should be running Fox News.
The point he made that apparently provoked a retroactive response was "We don't need anyone else hurt." BTW, thanks for the many expressions of concern for our injured player.
I share Longing's amusement at all the expert commentary offered by people who were watching another match at the time.
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Shotshagger wrote:Longing4agame wrote:Ed wrote:Shotshagger wrote:Flamethrower wrote:ok, so here is a issue. I usually DO NOT take up for Lake Highlands. I may have to to a extent this time. I am basing this opinion on hte original post saying " Lake highlands finest, now ECNL does not look so bad"
There is a simple issue to discuss here.. If a game in Lake Highlands or a ECNL game is played here, both leagues use the same referee assignor. The referee assignor owns the area.
I do not have a opinion on what happened out at the fields with parents , etc.. These are just the facts when it comes to who referees what.. there is no difference between LH refs and ECNL Refs.
I now understand why the ECNL parents pay mega-$ on airline tickets for their matches!
I say that in jest because, honestly, the level of reffing in D1 LHGCL is usually pretty good. That's why a bad one stands out. The U14 game was too fast for geriatric gentleman I mentioned yesterday; he would have had better luck on the semi-mighty-tots-level play I saw behind me Saturday on field two.
Nice. Cut down girls that did not have anything to do with you or your DDs game. Good way to prove you were one of the loudmouth jerks on field 3. Were you the loudmouth that got tossed for being a jackass or one that got away with it?
I can tell you the guy that was tossed is a referee himself. He made all valid points during the game. Someone had already gotten hurt and there was no foul even called on that play. It was ridiculous. Unless you were watching and listening to the entire game, you really can't have an opinion as to whether someone should or should not have been tossed. It's like catching the retaliation punch in a fight but not seeing what caused it. Unless you have a clear view of the entire situation, keep your uninformed opinion to yourself.
Shotshagger is right about one thing. Most of the time the referee's have been pretty good this year. The fact that this guy was so bad is why it stood out.
The tossed fan did make one point I disagreed with--he occasionally told the ref "Good call" even when it went against us! He should be running Fox News.
The point he made that apparently provoked a retroactive response was "We don't need anyone else hurt." BTW, thanks for the many expressions of concern for our injured player.
I share Longing's amusement at all the expert commentary offered by people who were watching another match at the time.
I thought you said he wasn't saying anything? "This guy starting hearing voices (perhaps of that of the Führer), turned around, and tossed a dad that wasn't saying anything."
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inthenet wrote:Shotshagger wrote:Longing4agame wrote:Ed wrote:Shotshagger wrote:Flamethrower wrote:ok, so here is a issue. I usually DO NOT take up for Lake Highlands. I may have to to a extent this time. I am basing this opinion on hte original post saying " Lake highlands finest, now ECNL does not look so bad"
There is a simple issue to discuss here.. If a game in Lake Highlands or a ECNL game is played here, both leagues use the same referee assignor. The referee assignor owns the area.
I do not have a opinion on what happened out at the fields with parents , etc.. These are just the facts when it comes to who referees what.. there is no difference between LH refs and ECNL Refs.
I now understand why the ECNL parents pay mega-$ on airline tickets for their matches!
I say that in jest because, honestly, the level of reffing in D1 LHGCL is usually pretty good. That's why a bad one stands out. The U14 game was too fast for geriatric gentleman I mentioned yesterday; he would have had better luck on the semi-mighty-tots-level play I saw behind me Saturday on field two.
Nice. Cut down girls that did not have anything to do with you or your DDs game. Good way to prove you were one of the loudmouth jerks on field 3. Were you the loudmouth that got tossed for being a jackass or one that got away with it?
I can tell you the guy that was tossed is a referee himself. He made all valid points during the game. Someone had already gotten hurt and there was no foul even called on that play. It was ridiculous. Unless you were watching and listening to the entire game, you really can't have an opinion as to whether someone should or should not have been tossed. It's like catching the retaliation punch in a fight but not seeing what caused it. Unless you have a clear view of the entire situation, keep your uninformed opinion to yourself.
Shotshagger is right about one thing. Most of the time the referee's have been pretty good this year. The fact that this guy was so bad is why it stood out.
The tossed fan did make one point I disagreed with--he occasionally told the ref "Good call" even when it went against us! He should be running Fox News.
The point he made that apparently provoked a retroactive response was "We don't need anyone else hurt." BTW, thanks for the many expressions of concern for our injured player.
I share Longing's amusement at all the expert commentary offered by people who were watching another match at the time.
I thought you said he wasn't saying anything? "This guy starting hearing voices (perhaps of that of the Führer), turned around, and tossed a dad that wasn't saying anything."
That's correct. He wasn't saying anything, positive or negative, when he was tossed.
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Re: Lake Highland's finest
Its Me wrote:If this guy was a referee then he should have followed the Code of Ethics:
Code of Ethics for Referees
(1) I will always maintain the utmost respect for the game of soccer.
(2) I will conduct myself honorably at all times and maintain the dignity of my position.
(3) I will always honor an assignment or any other contractual obligation.
(4) I will attend training meetings and clinics so as to know the Laws of the Game, their proper interpretation and their application.
(5) I will always strive to achieve maximum team work with my fellow officials.
(6) I will be loyal to my fellow officials and never knowingly promote criticism of them.
(7) I will be in good physical condition.
(8 ) I will control the players effectively by being courteous and considerate without sacrificing fairness.
(9) I will do my utmost to assist my fellow officials to better themselves and their work.
(10) I will not make statements about any games except to clarify an interpretation of the Laws of the Game.
(11) I will not discriminate against nor take undue advantage of any individual group on the basis of race, color, religion, sex or national origin.
(12) I consider it a privilege to be a part of the U.S. Soccer Federation and my actions will reflect credit upon that organization and its affiliates.
He could have easily gone to the assignor on-site and asked them to monitor this game.
He could have asked the coach to send in an evaulation on the crew after the game.
He could have spoken to the referees after the game and addressed his concerns.
However, this is NO way for a referee to act on the sideline.
If he allowed another parent to be thrown out instead of stepping up and admitting it was him then he's a piece of crap.
uh oh.
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(7a) if not, i agree that all my games will be 04 and higher (hidden codicil to the rules-not for public knowledge)
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