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Post by passionforsoccer 30/06/12, 07:44 am

How many players can you have on a 01roster for
the Plano league??? Is it the same size for LH??

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Post by EPL Fan 30/06/12, 08:34 am

passionforsoccer wrote:How many players can you have on a 01roster for
the Plano league??? Is it the same size for LH??

Unless it has changed in the last couple years.

Plano is 18 and LHGCL is 16
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Post by 02Mom 11/07/12, 07:42 am

Why can you only have 16 at LH when North Texas says you can have 18 on U11-U12 teams? Prob obvious but can anyone explain to me?
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Post by Guest 11/07/12, 08:06 am

02Mom wrote:Why can you only have 16 at LH when North Texas says you can have 18 on U11-U12 teams? Prob obvious but can anyone explain to me?

Why would you want 18 on the roster at that age? Playing time would be very limited for #'s 16,17,18. My opinion 16 roster size is a good #

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Post by Sweeper 11/07/12, 08:06 am

02Mom wrote:Why can you only have 16 at LH when North Texas says you can have 18 on U11-U12 teams? Prob obvious but can anyone explain to me?

I don't know, but it is better for playing time to have a cap at 16. LH jumps up to 18 at U-13.
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Post by Its Me 11/07/12, 08:15 am

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02Mom wrote:Why can you only have 16 at LH when North Texas says you can have 18 on U11-U12 teams? Prob obvious but can anyone explain to me?

Why would you want 18 on the roster at that age? Playing time would be very limited for #'s 16,17,18. My opinion 16 roster size is a good #

Don't forget U-16 they jump to 22 on the roster.
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Post by 02Mom 11/07/12, 02:43 pm

I know, I was just asking? There are times and situations that you may want to add another player to the roster, for example a super star late arrival or if you find out someone may be moving mid season and you find someone you would love to have replace her and wouldnt want to lose her. I agree that 18 is too many as well, I was just asking a question to which it sounds like, at this point it was a good question as no one has been able to answer it. Anyone, Anyone????
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Post by Guest 11/07/12, 03:06 pm

02Mom wrote:I know, I was just asking? There are times and situations that you may want to add another player to the roster, for example a super star late arrival or if you find out someone may be moving mid season and you find someone you would love to have replace her and wouldnt want to lose her. I agree that 18 is too many as well, I was just asking a question to which it sounds like, at this point it was a good question as no one has been able to answer it. Anyone, Anyone????

Most teams carry 15 players on the roster to leave open one spot for that super star late arrival! bom

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Post by 02Mom 11/07/12, 03:18 pm

I was just wondering why Lake High doesnt follow North Texas rule? (I understand the preferences but that was not the question, but thanks to everyone for responding anyway)
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Post by ballhead 11/07/12, 03:48 pm

02Mom wrote:I know, I was just asking? There are times and situations that you may want to add another player to the roster, for example a super star late arrival or if you find out someone may be moving mid season and you find someone you would love to have replace her and wouldnt want to lose her. I agree that 18 is too many as well, I was just asking a question to which it sounds like, at this point it was a good question as no one has been able to answer it. Anyone, Anyone????

I don't know how good a question it is, since even you think 18 is too many, so it shouldn't be hard to understand why someone else would feel that way.

My understanding is that the roster is small at the younger ages to allow for more playing time and greater involvement in the game. As they get older, they are more mature and better able to handle these difficulties, and of course, injuries start to play a part in larger rosters.
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Post by Ed 11/07/12, 03:52 pm

02Mom wrote:I was just wondering why Lake High doesnt follow North Texas rule? (I understand the preferences but that was not the question, but thanks to everyone for responding anyway)

Leagues can create their own roster rules and playing rules. Just like NTSSA has done, they don't follow all USYSA rules who also doesn't follw all FIFA rules.

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Post by 02Mom 11/07/12, 04:21 pm

Ed wrote:
02Mom wrote:I was just wondering why Lake High doesnt follow North Texas rule? (I understand the preferences but that was not the question, but thanks to everyone for responding anyway)

Leagues can create their own roster rules and playing rules. Just like NTSSA has done, they don't follow all USYSA rules who also doesn't follw all FIFA rules.

Wow! Thank you ED, finally someone answered my actual question. Thank you, I was not aware of the logistics and I just wanted to know why they didnt have to follow NTSSA. (I wish I had a prize I could give you because you were the first to understand/or read my actual question)
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Post by ClubDD95/00 11/07/12, 06:47 pm

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02Mom wrote:Why can you only have 16 at LH when North Texas says you can have 18 on U11-U12 teams? Prob obvious but can anyone explain to me?

Why would you want 18 on the roster at that age? Playing time would be very limited for #'s 16,17,18. My opinion 16 roster size is a good #


Go through a year or two like we have, (several season ending injuries) and you will change your mind. At this age it is about developing players but 11-12 players having to play 60 min games at 12 years old is not development. It turns into a grind for the girls.

And if you keep the talent level even through the players there is more than enough mins to go around while not over working the kids. Just my 2-cents... 18 should be the roster limit from U-11 on, and raise as they get older.
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Post by Guest 11/07/12, 07:59 pm

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02Mom wrote:Why can you only have 16 at LH when North Texas says you can have 18 on U11-U12 teams? Prob obvious but can anyone explain to me?

Why would you want 18 on the roster at that age? Playing time would be very limited for #'s 16,17,18. My opinion 16 roster size is a good #


Go through a year or two like we have, (several season ending injuries) and you will change your mind. At this age it is about developing players but 11-12 players having to play 60 min games at 12 years old is not development. It turns into a grind for the girls.

And if you keep the talent level even through the players there is more than enough mins to go around while not over working the kids. Just my 2-cents... 18 should be the roster limit from U-11 on, and raise as they get older.


I think that is easy to say if your DD is 1-14 but 15-18 might want to be in a more playing less sitting situation

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Post by ClubDD95/00 11/07/12, 08:12 pm

Your a coach correct? Read what I said again,and think about it. Talent level should be kept even on teams so you have depth. If you pick a player that can't play with the team that's the coaches fault, and that's where part of the problem lies.
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Post by 02Dad 11/07/12, 08:17 pm

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02Mom wrote:Why can you only have 16 at LH when North Texas says you can have 18 on U11-U12 teams? Prob obvious but can anyone explain to me?

Why would you want 18 on the roster at that age? Playing time would be very limited for #'s 16,17,18. My opinion 16 roster size is a good #


Go through a year or two like we have, (several season ending injuries) and you will change your mind. At this age it is about developing players but 11-12 players having to play 60 min games at 12 years old is not development. It turns into a grind for the girls.

And if you keep the talent level even through the players there is more than enough mins to go around while not over working the kids. Just my 2-cents... 18 should be the roster limit from U-11 on, and raise as they get older.


I think that is easy to say if your DD is 1-14 but 15-18 might want to be in a more playing less sitting situation

I thought we were all in this "for the development", not just to get "minutes" in a game.
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Post by Gunner9 11/07/12, 08:46 pm

The game is the best teacher.
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Post by Seven 11/07/12, 08:46 pm

Gunner9 wrote:The game is the best teacher.


exactly
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Post by Guest 11/07/12, 08:53 pm

I have to agree, teaching moments in training are based on decisions made within the game. I although agree that we need to really watch the amount of minutes yearly a player sees. I think this need to be done by reducing the amount of games not increase roster sizes. TAPPS and UIL limit amount of games athletes can play in a season.

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Post by 02Dad 11/07/12, 08:57 pm

Gunner9 wrote:The game is the best teacher.

Then why the fuss about girls playing two games (instead of just one) in a weekend if it's soooo bad. (sorry, combining two forum threads now)

If the game is the best teacher then why does everyone practice?

Seems to me that a well run practice and a good coach is better than just "a game".
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Post by Guest 11/07/12, 09:01 pm

02Dad wrote:
Gunner9 wrote:The game is the best teacher.

Then why the fuss about girls playing two games (instead of just one) in a weekend if it's soooo bad. (sorry, combining two forum threads now)

If the game is the best teacher then why does everyone practice?

Seems to me that a well run practice and a good coach is better than just "a game".



I think a good coach should know that he or she needs a balance of the two

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Post by Guest 11/07/12, 09:08 pm

ClubDD95/00 wrote:Your a coach correct? Read what I said again,and think about it. Talent level should be kept even on teams so you have depth. If you pick a player that can't play with the team that's the coaches fault, and that's where part of the problem lies.


I see your point, that it comes down to a balanced roster and the good coaches out their can get 18 starters, but this north tx look at how many teams. I would take 15 or 16 that I know I can give quality minutes to over 18 where someone could get shorted. My opinion

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Post by Guest 11/07/12, 09:24 pm

02Dad wrote:
Gunner9 wrote:The game is the best teacher.

Then why the fuss about girls playing two games (instead of just one) in a weekend if it's soooo bad. (sorry, combining two forum threads now)

If the game is the best teacher then why does everyone practice?

Seems to me that a well run practice and a good coach is better than just "a game".

While I realize you may be playing devil's advocate with your statements, this is the same "logic" coaches use on parents and players when they don't play the kids in games much. It happens all the time. A coach keeps his best 11 on the field 80% of the time and uses the excuse that game time really doesn't mean much.

Game time means everything to the players. That's what they work so hard for in practices: So they can shine in games. If a coach ever tells a parent that development only occurs in practices, they should RUN to another team.

As for two games in a weekend, I don't think that's a big deal at all. Tournaments, on the other hand, are idiotic and just a money-maker for most clubs. We're talking soccer, not softball. The human body cannot repair itself and store the glycogen necessary to play well in 3-5 games in 2-3 days. It's simply survival of the fittest, and the games start looking like crap by day two.


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Post by ClubDD95/00 11/07/12, 09:25 pm

I agree with what you said. The problem as you stated is in north TX there r so many teams that the word and game of select soccer is diluted. That makes it even more difficult for good teams to add depth.
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Post by Guest 11/07/12, 09:52 pm

ClubDD95/00 wrote:I agree with what you said. The problem as you stated is in north TX there r so many teams that the word and game of select soccer is diluted. That makes it even more difficult for good teams to add depth.

yes, but it can be done and i agree can be very effective method of building a team!

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