'03 Division Outlook

ddsgotgame wrote:

wrongsided wrote:

Here is some intel for you from a VERY reliable source. Pre ECNL most likely will happen at 11 through U13 but only as an option and only the top two teams from each ECNL Program the rest will play Girls Classic League, this is not an FCD league as other mentioned. Here is your big Thanksgiving Present and the WOW or OUCH of the week, JD is more than likely to leave FC for a better Fit. He interviewed yesterday for a College Program and is likely to take the job and leave FC.... Question is who steps up next? MG???? IMO, its a big change going from JD to MG...will Parents stick around and drink the advocare MG has to offer??

Is this for real (Adiós JD), or are you just trying to stir things up?

I really think he has a legitimate source. That would be huge blow to the FCD program from ECNL down, not just the 03s. Lots of gaps to fill if JD is really leaving.

With the shake up FCD did with the MSnell coaching release and bringing in JThomas from LP on the boys side and what a stir that caused and still causes today. Not sure how JD departure would affect the girls side, just know that a huge gap to fill. Seems like the FCD club in general is a bit convoluted and disarray from top to bottom. From the CEO in his weird situation in NYC, to letting go 2 homegrown players, no professional women's team in the new league and on the club side just lots of instability and unknowns. Lots to clean up the rest of 2012 and into 2013.

Moving to college is probably, as wrongsided says - “a better fit.” I don’t think JD gets U10 girls and I don’t think I ever saw a kid on this team smiling at practice. If anything, I think some kids have developed confidence issues as they get moved roster to roster weekly and with such a fluid “A” team, it has yet to gel. Maybe that works for ECNL, but these are 9/10 year olds.

JD is a trooper for dipping his toe deeper in the water, but may now be finding the rapids of FCD coaching politics. Being an absolute success at the ECNL level is plenty, but when a crisis struck with 03 Premier parents, he agreed to take on the team at academy-coach pay - and has now further been given ever-expanding roles in the girls academy program.

JD is very impressive and talented as a coach - but his team, ‘the core 9’ which was left after he cleaned house, has quickly grown to near 40 with only 5 remanning of the original girls.

“Premier” has become a skills clinic as the kids are moved up/down the two rosters weekly without any feedback or consistency. The forced-marriage with RP’s team (the ‘second team’) was a big indicator of the club’s priority for Premier. Seriously - since when do Second Team parents make demands as to what a club does with its First Team and get what they want (merge)? Note the B roster finished close to last in TGPL Silver - but the two rosters would routinely practice together once/twice a week with RP managing 30+ kids solo. And RP as co-coach was the WORST thing the club could have done. That guy has absolutely no business coaching 9 year olds, period.

Each of that Core 9 which has left has moved on to develop and play much better elsewhere. Is it JD’s coaching? No; I say its the FCD “system.” The club has chosen quantity over quality. It seems with their corporate mentality, they’re having a tough time navigating the academy world. I think it’s a lot to expect of a relatively new-to-the-area/age coach to come into the final year of academy and be expected to recruit top girls for D1.

If JD goes - do the kids with options from other teams leave or stay? Can they trust any new promises from the club?

I ponder if MG could even step into this mess and pull a team together at this date with all the changes which have gone-on over the past year. (It’s also been long-rumored he doesn’t want to attempt to compete against DM’s legendary masterpiece called ‘SRSA’.)

Does “Premier” have to be based in Frisco? Is it as simple as FCD Predator (East) taking the title.

Can they buy a coach/team from another club, and - anyone want to speculate contenders - does the Frisco location complicate things?

Other than MG or CR, can one come in now and recruit top talent?

Does the Pre ECNL plan become even more important and give the club options other than Lake Highlands (but at Select fees)?

It'll be very interesting to see how this plays out (again, assuming wrongsided is right).

BumpyPitch wrote:

ddsgotgame wrote:

wrongsided wrote:

Here is some intel for you from a VERY reliable source. Pre ECNL most likely will happen at 11 through U13 but only as an option and only the top two teams from each ECNL Program the rest will play Girls Classic League, this is not an FCD league as other mentioned. Here is your big Thanksgiving Present and the WOW or OUCH of the week, JD is more than likely to leave FC for a better Fit. He interviewed yesterday for a College Program and is likely to take the job and leave FC.... Question is who steps up next? MG???? IMO, its a big change going from JD to MG...will Parents stick around and drink the advocare MG has to offer??

Is this for real (Adiós JD), or are you just trying to stir things up?

I really think he has a legitimate source. That would be huge blow to the FCD program from ECNL down, not just the 03s. Lots of gaps to fill if JD is really leaving.

With the shake up FCD did with the MSnell coaching release and bringing in JThomas from LP on the boys side and what a stir that caused and still causes today. Not sure how JD departure would affect the girls side, just know that a huge gap to fill. Seems like the FCD club in general is a bit convoluted and disarray from top to bottom. From the CEO in his weird situation in NYC, to letting go 2 homegrown players, no professional women's team in the new league and on the club side just lots of instability and unknowns. Lots to clean up the rest of 2012 and into 2013.

Nitwit alert! Why would FCD take a hit if Diaz left? Why would ECNL teams care at all. Stop shoveling crap. Diaz is NOT an ECNL coach. Look at the ECNL website and click the FCD teams. He is not listed as HC or 1st, or 2nd asst. or GK coach for any team. Be serious. If you spent two good minutes with him you would know that no college program would even snif at him. He is a half wit at academy but you believe a college is looking at him!

ddsgotgame wrote:Moving to college is probably, as wrongsided says - “a better fit.” I don’t think JD gets U10 girls and I don’t think I ever saw a kid on this team smiling at practice. If anything, I think some kids have developed confidence issues as they get moved roster to roster weekly and with such a fluid “A” team, it has yet to gel. Maybe that works for ECNL, but these are 9/10 year olds.

JD is a trooper for dipping his toe deeper in the water, but may now be finding the rapids of FCD coaching politics. Being an absolute success at the ECNL level is plenty, but when a crisis struck with 03 Premier parents, he agreed to take on the team at academy-coach pay - and has now further been given ever-expanding roles in the girls academy program.

JD is very impressive and talented as a coach - but his team, ‘the core 9’ which was left after he cleaned house, has quickly grown to near 40 with only 5 remanning of the original girls.

“Premier” has become a skills clinic as the kids are moved up/down the two rosters weekly without any feedback or consistency. The forced-marriage with RP’s team (the ‘second team’) was a big indicator of the club’s priority for Premier. Seriously - since when do Second Team parents make demands as to what a club does with its First Team and get what they want (merge)? Note the B roster finished close to last in TGPL Silver - but the two rosters would routinely practice together once/twice a week with RP managing 30+ kids solo. And RP as co-coach was the WORST thing the club could have done. That guy has absolutely no business coaching 9 year olds, period.

Each of that Core 9 which has left has moved on to develop and play much better elsewhere. Is it JD’s coaching? No; I say its the FCD “system.” The club has chosen quantity over quality. It seems with their corporate mentality, they’re having a tough time navigating the academy world. I think it’s a lot to expect of a relatively new-to-the-area/age coach to come into the final year of academy and be expected to recruit top girls for D1.

If JD goes - do the kids with options from other teams leave or stay? Can they trust any new promises from the club?

I ponder if MG could even step into this mess and pull a team together at this date with all the changes which have gone-on over the past year. (It’s also been long-rumored he doesn’t want to attempt to compete against DM’s legendary masterpiece called ‘SRSA’.)

Does “Premier” have to be based in Frisco? Is it as simple as FCD Predator (East) taking the title.

Can they buy a coach/team from another club, and - anyone want to speculate contenders - does the Frisco location complicate things?

Other than MG or CR, can one come in now and recruit top talent?

Does the Pre ECNL plan become even more important and give the club options other than Lake Highlands (but at Select fees)?

It'll be very interesting to see how this plays out (again, assuming wrongsided is right).

Since when? He coaches LHGCL teams, with girls who didnt want to or couldnt make the ECNL teams.

Name one example how. You have already admitted he is a terrible academy coach.

Fcd East Premier is the simple fix but that would be admitting that only Grubb can coach at FCD and conceding that the main campus cant produce a premier team without. Sorry Hopkins be happy with your lot on the east side but never premier label.

Pre-ECNL travel team at u11. Some dweebs will believe anything. Anything with ECNL in NTX must have a 4/5 vote from the 5 clubs here. You think Solar, Texans and Sting are going to get on board with it? Nope

Your post is contradictory a lot but the main point is correct. FCD 03 is a mess that only MG or JH can fix.

TruthSerum wrote:

ddsgotgame wrote:Moving to college is probably, as wrongsided says - “a better fit.” I don’t think JD gets U10 girls and I don’t think I ever saw a kid on this team smiling at practice. If anything, I think some kids have developed confidence issues as they get moved roster to roster weekly and with such a fluid “A” team, it has yet to gel. Maybe that works for ECNL, but these are 9/10 year olds.

JD is a trooper for dipping his toe deeper in the water, but may now be finding the rapids of FCD coaching politics. Being an absolute success at the ECNL level is plenty, but when a crisis struck with 03 Premier parents, he agreed to take on the team at academy-coach pay - and has now further been given ever-expanding roles in the girls academy program.

JD is very impressive and talented as a coach - but his team, ‘the core 9’ which was left after he cleaned house, has quickly grown to near 40 with only 5 remanning of the original girls.

“Premier” has become a skills clinic as the kids are moved up/down the two rosters weekly without any feedback or consistency. The forced-marriage with RP’s team (the ‘second team’) was a big indicator of the club’s priority for Premier. Seriously - since when do Second Team parents make demands as to what a club does with its First Team and get what they want (merge)? Note the B roster finished close to last in TGPL Silver - but the two rosters would routinely practice together once/twice a week with RP managing 30+ kids solo. And RP as co-coach was the WORST thing the club could have done. That guy has absolutely no business coaching 9 year olds, period.

Each of that Core 9 which has left has moved on to develop and play much better elsewhere. Is it JD’s coaching? No; I say its the FCD “system.” The club has chosen quantity over quality. It seems with their corporate mentality, they’re having a tough time navigating the academy world. I think it’s a lot to expect of a relatively new-to-the-area/age coach to come into the final year of academy and be expected to recruit top girls for D1.

If JD goes - do the kids with options from other teams leave or stay? Can they trust any new promises from the club?

I ponder if MG could even step into this mess and pull a team together at this date with all the changes which have gone-on over the past year. (It’s also been long-rumored he doesn’t want to attempt to compete against DM’s legendary masterpiece called ‘SRSA’.)

Does “Premier” have to be based in Frisco? Is it as simple as FCD Predator (East) taking the title.

Can they buy a coach/team from another club, and - anyone want to speculate contenders - does the Frisco location complicate things?

Other than MG or CR, can one come in now and recruit top talent?

Does the Pre ECNL plan become even more important and give the club options other than Lake Highlands (but at Select fees)?

It'll be very interesting to see how this plays out (again, assuming wrongsided is right).

Since when? He coaches LHGCL teams, with girls who didnt want to or couldnt make the ECNL teams.

Name one example how. You have already admitted he is a terrible academy coach.

Fcd East Premier is the simple fix but that would be admitting that only Grubb can coach at FCD and conceding that the main campus cant produce a premier team without. Sorry Hopkins be happy with your lot on the east side but never premier label.

Pre-ECNL travel team at u11. Some dweebs will believe anything. Anything with ECNL in NTX must have a 4/5 vote from the 5 clubs here. You think Solar, Texans and Sting are going to get on board with it? Nope

Your post is contradictory a lot but the main point is correct. FCD 03 is a mess that only MG or JH can fix.

WOW>>>Someone did not get any sleep last night or had a little to much Haterade. Some Things I will tell you about JD, he works his tail off with players ECNL or Not! Doesn't care for lazy kids or BS parents. One of the most humble and down to earth coaches you'll meet but is a straight shooter and will tell you things the way he sees them good or bad. not afraid to say He let my daughter go two years ago because his team was too saturated with talent at my DD's position and he didn't see much play time for her, I respect him for that. he had spots open but he took the best interest of my daughter and moved her on to another team. HE Ended up winning D1 that year. JD only coaches 1 LHGCL team, MG coaches Two LHGCL Teams , CR coaches 1....Do you see the picture? These guys take a look at the overall picture of things and look past winning D1 Maybe if you take the time to go and take your dd to his training you'll see that he is a good coach, honestly In MY personal opinion he is one of the best coaches that FC has to offer. Hey if your daughter did not make his team don't be mad, mine didn't either! if my 03 was at that level i would honestly say that he would be the coach I would take her to but I know she can't make his team. FC may look like a mess but they are doing something right, MG 02's top of div1, MG's01 Top of Div1, JD's 96's Top of Div1.. BOYS USSF NATIONAL CHAMPIONS! GEE what a mess..

Lastly,

The league does not need votes since it is NOT ECNL it's pre ECNL but the league will be sanctioned by US Club Soccer and maybe called another name. Clean the Wax out your ears and listen for the last time!!!! IT IS NOT AN ECNL League, it is a US CLUB Sanctioned league and OPTIONAL and OPEN to JUST the FIVE ECNL teams in our AREA if they wanted to play in it, it does not mean you have to play in it but you do have to have your own fields which at this point only FC, Texans, Feet and Sting have. Solar uses TWU but coach FLeur is now at Liverpool so it remains to be seen what they can come up with.

wrongsided wrote:

TruthSerum wrote:

ddsgotgame wrote:Moving to college is probably, as wrongsided says - “a better fit.” I don’t think JD gets U10 girls and I don’t think I ever saw a kid on this team smiling at practice. If anything, I think some kids have developed confidence issues as they get moved roster to roster weekly and with such a fluid “A” team, it has yet to gel. Maybe that works for ECNL, but these are 9/10 year olds.

JD is a trooper for dipping his toe deeper in the water, but may now be finding the rapids of FCD coaching politics. Being an absolute success at the ECNL level is plenty, but when a crisis struck with 03 Premier parents, he agreed to take on the team at academy-coach pay - and has now further been given ever-expanding roles in the girls academy program.

JD is very impressive and talented as a coach - but his team, ‘the core 9’ which was left after he cleaned house, has quickly grown to near 40 with only 5 remanning of the original girls.

“Premier” has become a skills clinic as the kids are moved up/down the two rosters weekly without any feedback or consistency. The forced-marriage with RP’s team (the ‘second team’) was a big indicator of the club’s priority for Premier. Seriously - since when do Second Team parents make demands as to what a club does with its First Team and get what they want (merge)? Note the B roster finished close to last in TGPL Silver - but the two rosters would routinely practice together once/twice a week with RP managing 30+ kids solo. And RP as co-coach was the WORST thing the club could have done. That guy has absolutely no business coaching 9 year olds, period.

Each of that Core 9 which has left has moved on to develop and play much better elsewhere. Is it JD’s coaching? No; I say its the FCD “system.” The club has chosen quantity over quality. It seems with their corporate mentality, they’re having a tough time navigating the academy world. I think it’s a lot to expect of a relatively new-to-the-area/age coach to come into the final year of academy and be expected to recruit top girls for D1.

If JD goes - do the kids with options from other teams leave or stay? Can they trust any new promises from the club?

I ponder if MG could even step into this mess and pull a team together at this date with all the changes which have gone-on over the past year. (It’s also been long-rumored he doesn’t want to attempt to compete against DM’s legendary masterpiece called ‘SRSA’.)

Does “Premier” have to be based in Frisco? Is it as simple as FCD Predator (East) taking the title.

Can they buy a coach/team from another club, and - anyone want to speculate contenders - does the Frisco location complicate things?

Other than MG or CR, can one come in now and recruit top talent?

Does the Pre ECNL plan become even more important and give the club options other than Lake Highlands (but at Select fees)?

It'll be very interesting to see how this plays out (again, assuming wrongsided is right).

Since when? He coaches LHGCL teams, with girls who didnt want to or couldnt make the ECNL teams.

Name one example how. You have already admitted he is a terrible academy coach.

Fcd East Premier is the simple fix but that would be admitting that only Grubb can coach at FCD and conceding that the main campus cant produce a premier team without. Sorry Hopkins be happy with your lot on the east side but never premier label.

Pre-ECNL travel team at u11. Some dweebs will believe anything. Anything with ECNL in NTX must have a 4/5 vote from the 5 clubs here. You think Solar, Texans and Sting are going to get on board with it? Nope

Your post is contradictory a lot but the main point is correct. FCD 03 is a mess that only MG or JH can fix.

WOW>>>Someone did not get any sleep last night or had a little to much Haterade. Some Things I will tell you about JD, he works his tail off with players ECNL or Not! Doesn't care for lazy kids or BS parents. One of the most humble and down to earth coaches you'll meet but is a straight shooter and will tell you things the way he sees them good or bad. not afraid to say He let my daughter go two years ago because his team was too saturated with talent at my DD's position and he didn't see much play time for her, I respect him for that. he had spots open but he took the best interest of my daughter and moved her on to another team. HE Ended up winning D1 that year. JD only coaches 1 LHGCL team, MG coaches Two LHGCL Teams , CR coaches 1....Do you see the picture? These guys take a look at the overall picture of things and look past winning D1 Maybe if you take the time to go and take your dd to his training you'll see that he is a good coach, honestly In MY personal opinion he is one of the best coaches that FC has to offer. Hey if your daughter did not make his team don't be mad, mine didn't either! if my 03 was at that level i would honestly say that he would be the coach I would take her to but I know she can't make his team. FC may look like a mess but they are doing something right, MG 02's top of div1, MG's01 Top of Div1, JD's 96's Top of Div1.. BOYS USSF NATIONAL CHAMPIONS! GEE what a mess..

Lastly,

The league does not need votes since it is NOT ECNL it's pre ECNL but the league will be sanctioned by US Club Soccer and maybe called another name. Clean the Wax out your ears and listen for the last time!!!! IT IS NOT AN ECNL League, it is a US CLUB Sanctioned league and OPTIONAL and OPEN to JUST the FIVE ECNL teams in our AREA if they wanted to play in it, it does not mean you have to play in it but you do have to have your own fields which at this point only FC, Texans, Feet and Sting have. Solar uses TWU but coach FLeur is now at Liverpool so it remains to be seen what they can come up with.

Hope the rest of your facts are better than your concern about fields. I don't think Solar has played at TWU in a couple of years. Last year's games were played at TCU.

wrongsided wrote:

TruthSerum wrote:

ddsgotgame wrote:Moving to college is probably, as wrongsided says - “a better fit.” I don’t think JD gets U10 girls and I don’t think I ever saw a kid on this team smiling at practice. If anything, I think some kids have developed confidence issues as they get moved roster to roster weekly and with such a fluid “A” team, it has yet to gel. Maybe that works for ECNL, but these are 9/10 year olds.

JD is a trooper for dipping his toe deeper in the water, but may now be finding the rapids of FCD coaching politics. Being an absolute success at the ECNL level is plenty, but when a crisis struck with 03 Premier parents, he agreed to take on the team at academy-coach pay - and has now further been given ever-expanding roles in the girls academy program.

JD is very impressive and talented as a coach - but his team, ‘the core 9’ which was left after he cleaned house, has quickly grown to near 40 with only 5 remanning of the original girls.

“Premier” has become a skills clinic as the kids are moved up/down the two rosters weekly without any feedback or consistency. The forced-marriage with RP’s team (the ‘second team’) was a big indicator of the club’s priority for Premier. Seriously - since when do Second Team parents make demands as to what a club does with its First Team and get what they want (merge)? Note the B roster finished close to last in TGPL Silver - but the two rosters would routinely practice together once/twice a week with RP managing 30+ kids solo. And RP as co-coach was the WORST thing the club could have done. That guy has absolutely no business coaching 9 year olds, period.

Each of that Core 9 which has left has moved on to develop and play much better elsewhere. Is it JD’s coaching? No; I say its the FCD “system.” The club has chosen quantity over quality. It seems with their corporate mentality, they’re having a tough time navigating the academy world. I think it’s a lot to expect of a relatively new-to-the-area/age coach to come into the final year of academy and be expected to recruit top girls for D1.

If JD goes - do the kids with options from other teams leave or stay? Can they trust any new promises from the club?

I ponder if MG could even step into this mess and pull a team together at this date with all the changes which have gone-on over the past year. (It’s also been long-rumored he doesn’t want to attempt to compete against DM’s legendary masterpiece called ‘SRSA’.)

Does “Premier” have to be based in Frisco? Is it as simple as FCD Predator (East) taking the title.

Can they buy a coach/team from another club, and - anyone want to speculate contenders - does the Frisco location complicate things?

Other than MG or CR, can one come in now and recruit top talent?

Does the Pre ECNL plan become even more important and give the club options other than Lake Highlands (but at Select fees)?

It'll be very interesting to see how this plays out (again, assuming wrongsided is right).

Since when? He coaches LHGCL teams, with girls who didnt want to or couldnt make the ECNL teams.

Name one example how. You have already admitted he is a terrible academy coach.

Fcd East Premier is the simple fix but that would be admitting that only Grubb can coach at FCD and conceding that the main campus cant produce a premier team without. Sorry Hopkins be happy with your lot on the east side but never premier label.

Pre-ECNL travel team at u11. Some dweebs will believe anything. Anything with ECNL in NTX must have a 4/5 vote from the 5 clubs here. You think Solar, Texans and Sting are going to get on board with it? Nope

Your post is contradictory a lot but the main point is correct. FCD 03 is a mess that only MG or JH can fix.

WOW>>>Someone did not get any sleep last night or had a little to much Haterade. Some Things I will tell you about JD, he works his tail off with players ECNL or Not! Doesn't care for lazy kids or BS parents. One of the most humble and down to earth coaches you'll meet but is a straight shooter and will tell you things the way he sees them good or bad. not afraid to say He let my daughter go two years ago because his team was too saturated with talent at my DD's position and he didn't see much play time for her, I respect him for that. he had spots open but he took the best interest of my daughter and moved her on to another team. HE Ended up winning D1 that year. JD only coaches 1 LHGCL team, MG coaches Two LHGCL Teams , CR coaches 1....Do you see the picture? These guys take a look at the overall picture of things and look past winning D1 Maybe if you take the time to go and take your dd to his training you'll see that he is a good coach, honestly In MY personal opinion he is one of the best coaches that FC has to offer. Hey if your daughter did not make his team don't be mad, mine didn't either! if my 03 was at that level i would honestly say that he would be the coach I would take her to but I know she can't make his team. FC may look like a mess but they are doing something right, MG 02's top of div1, MG's01 Top of Div1, JD's 96's Top of Div1.. BOYS USSF NATIONAL CHAMPIONS! GEE what a mess..

Lastly,

The league does not need votes since it is NOT ECNL it's pre ECNL but the league will be sanctioned by US Club Soccer and maybe called another name. Clean the Wax out your ears and listen for the last time!!!! IT IS NOT AN ECNL League, it is a US CLUB Sanctioned league and OPTIONAL and OPEN to JUST the FIVE ECNL teams in our AREA if they wanted to play in it, it does not mean you have to play in it but you do have to have your own fields which at this point only FC, Texans, Feet and Sting have. Solar uses TWU but coach FLeur is now at Liverpool so it remains to be seen what they can come up with.

Sorry but Ive got to poop on your pom poms again. Stop trying to pit Diaz on the block with Grubb and Ring. He is not. Grubb has 3 LHGCL teams and 2 ECNL teams, Ring has 1 LHGCL team and 3 ECNL teams. Do YOU see that picture?
Diaz is not in it! If you spent some real time (meaning in this world not the make believe one you are trying to help create) with Diaz you would know immediately why he is not in that picture. Truth hurts like heck.

I didnt say FCD was a mess just FCD 03 unless Grubb comes in to save it or give the keys to Hopkins in the east. Who throws boys championships for the club in the conversation regarding a girls coach? Desparation. No clue and paper thin
arguements. You proved my point again. MG has the D1 teams at the age groups that FCD cares about (i.e. Before ECNL). You do kmow that Diaz has a D1 team of u17 in LHGCL right? Yes, then you know what it means if you are on a u17 LHGCL team instead of the r ECNL team right? It means even at 17 years old when most of the girls have dropped out of soccer that you were unable or didnt want to be one of the 110 girls that made an ECNL team in Dallas. Please dont sing praises for u17 LHGCL. That only further hurts Diaz case.

Lastly, thanks for confirmimg that FCD can do nothing with ECNL or ECNL junior unless the other 3/4 clubs agree. A new league with ECNL clubs only sounds a lot like Division 1 of LHGCL (with an annual exception here or there). Go look at all the divisions at LHGCL and tell me I am off base. Guess who controls LHGCL, umm those 5 clubs again.

TruthSerum wrote:

wrongsided wrote:

TruthSerum wrote:

ddsgotgame wrote:Moving to college is probably, as wrongsided says - “a better fit.” I don’t think JD gets U10 girls and I don’t think I ever saw a kid on this team smiling at practice. If anything, I think some kids have developed confidence issues as they get moved roster to roster weekly and with such a fluid “A” team, it has yet to gel. Maybe that works for ECNL, but these are 9/10 year olds.

JD is a trooper for dipping his toe deeper in the water, but may now be finding the rapids of FCD coaching politics. Being an absolute success at the ECNL level is plenty, but when a crisis struck with 03 Premier parents, he agreed to take on the team at academy-coach pay - and has now further been given ever-expanding roles in the girls academy program.

JD is very impressive and talented as a coach - but his team, ‘the core 9’ which was left after he cleaned house, has quickly grown to near 40 with only 5 remanning of the original girls.

“Premier” has become a skills clinic as the kids are moved up/down the two rosters weekly without any feedback or consistency. The forced-marriage with RP’s team (the ‘second team’) was a big indicator of the club’s priority for Premier. Seriously - since when do Second Team parents make demands as to what a club does with its First Team and get what they want (merge)? Note the B roster finished close to last in TGPL Silver - but the two rosters would routinely practice together once/twice a week with RP managing 30+ kids solo. And RP as co-coach was the WORST thing the club could have done. That guy has absolutely no business coaching 9 year olds, period.

Each of that Core 9 which has left has moved on to develop and play much better elsewhere. Is it JD’s coaching? No; I say its the FCD “system.” The club has chosen quantity over quality. It seems with their corporate mentality, they’re having a tough time navigating the academy world. I think it’s a lot to expect of a relatively new-to-the-area/age coach to come into the final year of academy and be expected to recruit top girls for D1.

If JD goes - do the kids with options from other teams leave or stay? Can they trust any new promises from the club?

I ponder if MG could even step into this mess and pull a team together at this date with all the changes which have gone-on over the past year. (It’s also been long-rumored he doesn’t want to attempt to compete against DM’s legendary masterpiece called ‘SRSA’.)

Does “Premier” have to be based in Frisco? Is it as simple as FCD Predator (East) taking the title.

Can they buy a coach/team from another club, and - anyone want to speculate contenders - does the Frisco location complicate things?

Other than MG or CR, can one come in now and recruit top talent?

Does the Pre ECNL plan become even more important and give the club options other than Lake Highlands (but at Select fees)?

It'll be very interesting to see how this plays out (again, assuming wrongsided is right).

Since when? He coaches LHGCL teams, with girls who didnt want to or couldnt make the ECNL teams.

Name one example how. You have already admitted he is a terrible academy coach.

Fcd East Premier is the simple fix but that would be admitting that only Grubb can coach at FCD and conceding that the main campus cant produce a premier team without. Sorry Hopkins be happy with your lot on the east side but never premier label.

Pre-ECNL travel team at u11. Some dweebs will believe anything. Anything with ECNL in NTX must have a 4/5 vote from the 5 clubs here. You think Solar, Texans and Sting are going to get on board with it? Nope

Your post is contradictory a lot but the main point is correct. FCD 03 is a mess that only MG or JH can fix.

WOW>>>Someone did not get any sleep last night or had a little to much Haterade. Some Things I will tell you about JD, he works his tail off with players ECNL or Not! Doesn't care for lazy kids or BS parents. One of the most humble and down to earth coaches you'll meet but is a straight shooter and will tell you things the way he sees them good or bad. not afraid to say He let my daughter go two years ago because his team was too saturated with talent at my DD's position and he didn't see much play time for her, I respect him for that. he had spots open but he took the best interest of my daughter and moved her on to another team. HE Ended up winning D1 that year. JD only coaches 1 LHGCL team, MG coaches Two LHGCL Teams , CR coaches 1....Do you see the picture? These guys take a look at the overall picture of things and look past winning D1 Maybe if you take the time to go and take your dd to his training you'll see that he is a good coach, honestly In MY personal opinion he is one of the best coaches that FC has to offer. Hey if your daughter did not make his team don't be mad, mine didn't either! if my 03 was at that level i would honestly say that he would be the coach I would take her to but I know she can't make his team. FC may look like a mess but they are doing something right, MG 02's top of div1, MG's01 Top of Div1, JD's 96's Top of Div1.. BOYS USSF NATIONAL CHAMPIONS! GEE what a mess..

Lastly,

The league does not need votes since it is NOT ECNL it's pre ECNL but the league will be sanctioned by US Club Soccer and maybe called another name. Clean the Wax out your ears and listen for the last time!!!! IT IS NOT AN ECNL League, it is a US CLUB Sanctioned league and OPTIONAL and OPEN to JUST the FIVE ECNL teams in our AREA if they wanted to play in it, it does not mean you have to play in it but you do have to have your own fields which at this point only FC, Texans, Feet and Sting have. Solar uses TWU but coach FLeur is now at Liverpool so it remains to be seen what they can come up with.

Sorry but Ive got to poop on your pom poms again. Stop trying to pit Diaz on the block with Grubb and Ring. He is not. Grubb has 3 LHGCL teams and 2 ECNL teams, Ring has 1 LHGCL team and 3 ECNL teams. Do YOU see that picture?
Diaz is not in it! If you spent some real time (meaning in this world not the make believe one you are trying to help create) with Diaz you would know immediately why he is not in that picture. Truth hurts like heck.

I didnt say FCD was a mess just FCD 03 unless Grubb comes in to save it or give the keys to Hopkins in the east. Who throws boys championships for the club in the conversation regarding a girls coach? Desparation. No clue and paper thin
arguements. You proved my point again. MG has the D1 teams at the age groups that FCD cares about (i.e. Before ECNL). You do kmow that Diaz has a D1 team of u17 in LHGCL right? Yes, then you know what it means if you are on a u17 LHGCL team instead of the r ECNL team right? It means even at 17 years old when most of the girls have dropped out of soccer that you were unable or didnt want to be one of the 110 girls that made an ECNL team in Dallas. Please dont sing praises for u17 LHGCL. That only further hurts Diaz case.

Lastly, thanks for confirmimg that FCD can do nothing with ECNL or ECNL junior unless the other 3/4 clubs agree. A new league with ECNL clubs only sounds a lot like Division 1 of LHGCL (with an annual exception here or there). Go look at all the divisions at LHGCL and tell me I am off base. Guess who controls LHGCL, umm those 5 clubs again.

So are you saying your a better coach than jd? get your fact straight. JD's u17 broke into ECNL, JD and a South Coach carried both teams and put that team in the A flight from B flight before they went to conferences. JD won D1 and put the ECNL u16 team in A flight. I am not comparing JD, CR and MG because i dont know MG or CR and I have never been to his teams, I am simply saying that JD is a really good coach. Are you going to tell me that his teams have not gotten better? if so you are, my friend
you are blind and maybe a little biased. also why would anyone think that MG would be afraid to play your Super Team, if I am correct. MG has competed against the best and still going strong which means he is doing a good job. JD, CR, MG from FCD and AS,CG, MC and KS from Solar are all good coaches. What I want to know is where do you fall in to this picture? just becasue you played at a high university level does not make you a good coach, u do not want to sit here and compare resumes with me. I may not be able to coach or have a daughter that is good and as gifted as yours but I guarantee you I played at a much higher level than you ever did. Your pissing into the wind my friend, in 86-87 I won the argentian first division with Rosario Central you my friend played at a university when soccer was barely getting started here in the US

TruthSerum wrote:

BumpyPitch wrote:

ddsgotgame wrote:

wrongsided wrote:

Here is some intel for you from a VERY reliable source. Pre ECNL most likely will happen at 11 through U13 but only as an option and only the top two teams from each ECNL Program the rest will play Girls Classic League, this is not an FCD league as other mentioned. Here is your big Thanksgiving Present and the WOW or OUCH of the week, JD is more than likely to leave FC for a better Fit. He interviewed yesterday for a College Program and is likely to take the job and leave FC.... Question is who steps up next? MG???? IMO, its a big change going from JD to MG...will Parents stick around and drink the advocare MG has to offer??

Is this for real (Adiós JD), or are you just trying to stir things up?

I really think he has a legitimate source. That would be huge blow to the FCD program from ECNL down, not just the 03s. Lots of gaps to fill if JD is really leaving.

With the shake up FCD did with the MSnell coaching release and bringing in JThomas from LP on the boys side and what a stir that caused and still causes today. Not sure how JD departure would affect the girls side, just know that a huge gap to fill. Seems like the FCD club in general is a bit convoluted and disarray from top to bottom. From the CEO in his weird situation in NYC, to letting go 2 homegrown players, no professional women's team in the new league and on the club side just lots of instability and unknowns. Lots to clean up the rest of 2012 and into 2013.

Nitwit alert! Why would FCD take a hit if Diaz left? Why would ECNL teams care at all. Stop shoveling crap. Diaz is NOT an ECNL coach. Look at the ECNL website and click the FCD teams. He is not listed as HC or 1st, or 2nd asst. or GK coach for any team. Be serious. If you spent two good minutes with him you would know that no college program would even snif at him. He is a half wit at academy but you believe a college is looking at him!

Why does it matter about FCD Premier team and who coaches them? The club already has a strong "A" team with JH's group. All the club needs to do is change East to Premier and with over "40 players plus kids around at practice" create multiple teams for depth going forward having "B", "C", and so on teams. Every club especially the 5 ECNL teams will have the very same set up of teams just FCD likes to call their top team "Premier"

Out of all the 5 ECNL teams that include the Dallas Texans, Feet, FCD, Solar, and Sting, who is going to coach the DT and Feet come select

We already know JH, AS, and AG will each coach the top teams for their clubs with good teams under them.

I'm getting kind of beaten down by this FCD discussion.
Isn't there an 03 tournament this weekend?

So are we talking about Pre-Jr. ECNL - that would be U11.


Jr. ECNL Competitions - all this is is the ECNL clubs are allowed to bring in younger teams affiliated with ECNL and hold tournaments:

All JR ECNL competitions must meet and adhere to the guidelines set fourth by the ECNL in the 2012-2013 ECNL Competition Rules, Section 7 and Exhibit E and be approved by the ECNL Commissioner in writing.

No competition(s) shall be referred to as a “JR ECNL” competition nor shall the ECNL Logo be used by or associated with any competition without pre-approval from the ECNL Commissioner in writing using the process outlined in Exhibit E. Once the ECNL Commissioner in writing approves the application, the ECNL will pass it onto US Club Soccer to further review for official sanctioning. Upon approval, the host may begin organizing the competition, pursuant to ECNL Competition Guidelines and Regulations (Section 7 and Exhibit E).

Found here: http://www.eliteclubsnationalleague.com/jr_ecnl/index_E.html

2012-2013 JR ECNL GUIDELIENS & REGULATIONS

(2012-2013 ECNL COMPETITION RULES & REGULATIONS: SECTION 7 & EXHIBIT E)

Definition. A JR ECNL competition consists of games between ECNL Member Clubs at the Under-13 and Under-12 age groups (only), and in order to be branded as a JR ECNL competition, must be pre-approved the ECNL Commissioner in writing and approved for sanctioning by US Club Soccer.

Age Groups. A JR ECNL competition consists of games between current ECNL Member Clubs at the Under-13 and Under-12 age groups only.

Eligible Participants: All current ECNL Member Clubs have the right to participate in JR ECNL competition(s) provided that the participating ECNL Member Club team is eligible under the rules of that JR ECNL competition, pays all required fees, and is in good standing with the ECNL. Clubs that are not ECNL Member Clubs cannot participate in any JR ECNL competition. Only one team per ECNL Member Club may participate in a JR ECNL competition at each age group.

Optional Participation. Participation in JR ECNL competition is optional for ECNL Member Clubs. Hosts & Organizers.
ECNL Member Clubs: Any current ECNL Member Club in good standing may organize JR ECNL competition(s) so long as they have been pre-approved by the ECNL Commissioner, and adhere to the guidelines and requirements set forth by the ECNL and the event’s sanctioning body (US Club Soccer).

Third Parties: A third party, such as an event management company, tournament, or a of joint venture between a third party and a current ECNL Club, may organize JR ECNL competition(s) so long as they have been pre-approved to do so by the ECNL Commissioner, and adhere to the guidelines and requirements set forth by the ECNL and the event’s sanctioning body (US Club Soccer). Requirements for JR ECNL events operated in any form by a third party may be more stringent.
Competition Format. JR ECNL competition may take a variety of formats, be it a single game, tournament, or a group of games.
Sanctioning, Player and Staff Passes. US Club Soccer sanctions all JR ECNL competitions. All players participating in JR ECNL competitions must be carded with a valid US Club Soccer Pass, unless such playeri is also on an ECNL Roster, in which case an ECNL Permanent Pass or ECNL Temporary Pass will be accepted. Any staff on the sideline during a JR ECNL event must have a US Club Soccer Pass as well. THERE ARE NO EXCEPTIONS. For the duration of the registration year, the US Club Player passes may be used in any unrestricted competition sanctioned by a USSF member, not just limited to those sanctioned by US Club Soccer.

JR ECNL Rosters: Players participating in JR ECNL competitions may be from any youth soccer club, so long as they have a valid US Club Soccer Player Pass and have been added to the ECNL Member Club’s JR ECNL roster for the competition. The player may be added in one of two ways:
• Guest Player: Guest playing is permitted during JR ECNL events, provided that, if the guest player is currently carded with another US Club Soccer Member Club (it may not be another ECNL Club), the “US Club Soccer Player Loan Form” is used. The “US Club Soccer Player Loan Form” is located on the JR ECNL Home Page. The ECNL Member Club must contact the guest player’s home club and provide the club with notice of the guest playing.
• Dual Carding: Per the US Club Soccer Dual Registration Policy, dual carding is permitted for JR ECNL players in specific situations. (A copy of the US Club Soccer Dual Registration Policy is found on the JR ECNL Home Page.) The Dual Registration Policy is for players who may join the JR ECNL team on a more frequent basis over multiple JR ECNL events. Once such player is properly registered and added to the roster, the player may participate with the ECNL Member Club in JR ECNL competitions for the duration of the season. The ECNL Member Club is responsible for the fees associated with registering such players. If at any point, the player is then dropped from the roster, the player may not be added to another roster (ECNL or JR ECNL) of another ECNL Member Club for the duration of the season.

Logo Usage: Per the ECNL Logo Trademark and Usage Policy, the ECNL Logo shall not be used by or associated with any JR ECNL competition without pre-approval from the ECNL Commissioner in writing.
Approval Process: No competition(s) shall be referred to as a “JR ECNL” competition nor shall the ECNL Logo be used by or associated with any competition without pre-approval from the ECNL Commissioner in writing using the following process:

1. For all JR ECNL competitions, the “Pre-Approval JR ECNL Competition Hosting Application” shall be submitted to the ECNL League Office no less than sixty (60) days prior to the first competition.

The “Pre-Approval JR ECNL Competition Hosting Application” is available on the JR ECNL Home Page.

wrongsided wrote:

TruthSerum wrote:

wrongsided wrote:

TruthSerum wrote:

ddsgotgame wrote:Moving to college is probably, as wrongsided says - “a better fit.” I don’t think JD gets U10 girls and I don’t think I ever saw a kid on this team smiling at practice. If anything, I think some kids have developed confidence issues as they get moved roster to roster weekly and with such a fluid “A” team, it has yet to gel. Maybe that works for ECNL, but these are 9/10 year olds.

JD is a trooper for dipping his toe deeper in the water, but may now be finding the rapids of FCD coaching politics. Being an absolute success at the ECNL level is plenty, but when a crisis struck with 03 Premier parents, he agreed to take on the team at academy-coach pay - and has now further been given ever-expanding roles in the girls academy program.

JD is very impressive and talented as a coach - but his team, ‘the core 9’ which was left after he cleaned house, has quickly grown to near 40 with only 5 remanning of the original girls.

“Premier” has become a skills clinic as the kids are moved up/down the two rosters weekly without any feedback or consistency. The forced-marriage with RP’s team (the ‘second team’) was a big indicator of the club’s priority for Premier. Seriously - since when do Second Team parents make demands as to what a club does with its First Team and get what they want (merge)? Note the B roster finished close to last in TGPL Silver - but the two rosters would routinely practice together once/twice a week with RP managing 30+ kids solo. And RP as co-coach was the WORST thing the club could have done. That guy has absolutely no business coaching 9 year olds, period.

Each of that Core 9 which has left has moved on to develop and play much better elsewhere. Is it JD’s coaching? No; I say its the FCD “system.” The club has chosen quantity over quality. It seems with their corporate mentality, they’re having a tough time navigating the academy world. I think it’s a lot to expect of a relatively new-to-the-area/age coach to come into the final year of academy and be expected to recruit top girls for D1.

If JD goes - do the kids with options from other teams leave or stay? Can they trust any new promises from the club?

I ponder if MG could even step into this mess and pull a team together at this date with all the changes which have gone-on over the past year. (It’s also been long-rumored he doesn’t want to attempt to compete against DM’s legendary masterpiece called ‘SRSA’.)

Does “Premier” have to be based in Frisco? Is it as simple as FCD Predator (East) taking the title.

Can they buy a coach/team from another club, and - anyone want to speculate contenders - does the Frisco location complicate things?

Other than MG or CR, can one come in now and recruit top talent?

Does the Pre ECNL plan become even more important and give the club options other than Lake Highlands (but at Select fees)?

It'll be very interesting to see how this plays out (again, assuming wrongsided is right).

Since when? He coaches LHGCL teams, with girls who didnt want to or couldnt make the ECNL teams.

Name one example how. You have already admitted he is a terrible academy coach.

Fcd East Premier is the simple fix but that would be admitting that only Grubb can coach at FCD and conceding that the main campus cant produce a premier team without. Sorry Hopkins be happy with your lot on the east side but never premier label.

Pre-ECNL travel team at u11. Some dweebs will believe anything. Anything with ECNL in NTX must have a 4/5 vote from the 5 clubs here. You think Solar, Texans and Sting are going to get on board with it? Nope

Your post is contradictory a lot but the main point is correct. FCD 03 is a mess that only MG or JH can fix.

WOW>>>Someone did not get any sleep last night or had a little to much Haterade. Some Things I will tell you about JD, he works his tail off with players ECNL or Not! Doesn't care for lazy kids or BS parents. One of the most humble and down to earth coaches you'll meet but is a straight shooter and will tell you things the way he sees them good or bad. not afraid to say He let my daughter go two years ago because his team was too saturated with talent at my DD's position and he didn't see much play time for her, I respect him for that. he had spots open but he took the best interest of my daughter and moved her on to another team. HE Ended up winning D1 that year. JD only coaches 1 LHGCL team, MG coaches Two LHGCL Teams , CR coaches 1....Do you see the picture? These guys take a look at the overall picture of things and look past winning D1 Maybe if you take the time to go and take your dd to his training you'll see that he is a good coach, honestly In MY personal opinion he is one of the best coaches that FC has to offer. Hey if your daughter did not make his team don't be mad, mine didn't either! if my 03 was at that level i would honestly say that he would be the coach I would take her to but I know she can't make his team. FC may look like a mess but they are doing something right, MG 02's top of div1, MG's01 Top of Div1, JD's 96's Top of Div1.. BOYS USSF NATIONAL CHAMPIONS! GEE what a mess..

Lastly,

The league does not need votes since it is NOT ECNL it's pre ECNL but the league will be sanctioned by US Club Soccer and maybe called another name. Clean the Wax out your ears and listen for the last time!!!! IT IS NOT AN ECNL League, it is a US CLUB Sanctioned league and OPTIONAL and OPEN to JUST the FIVE ECNL teams in our AREA if they wanted to play in it, it does not mean you have to play in it but you do have to have your own fields which at this point only FC, Texans, Feet and Sting have. Solar uses TWU but coach FLeur is now at Liverpool so it remains to be seen what they can come up with.

Sorry but Ive got to poop on your pom poms again. Stop trying to pit Diaz on the block with Grubb and Ring. He is not. Grubb has 3 LHGCL teams and 2 ECNL teams, Ring has 1 LHGCL team and 3 ECNL teams. Do YOU see that picture?
Diaz is not in it! If you spent some real time (meaning in this world not the make believe one you are trying to help create) with Diaz you would know immediately why he is not in that picture. Truth hurts like heck.

I didnt say FCD was a mess just FCD 03 unless Grubb comes in to save it or give the keys to Hopkins in the east. Who throws boys championships for the club in the conversation regarding a girls coach? Desparation. No clue and paper thin
arguements. You proved my point again. MG has the D1 teams at the age groups that FCD cares about (i.e. Before ECNL). You do kmow that Diaz has a D1 team of u17 in LHGCL right? Yes, then you know what it means if you are on a u17 LHGCL team instead of the r ECNL team right? It means even at 17 years old when most of the girls have dropped out of soccer that you were unable or didnt want to be one of the 110 girls that made an ECNL team in Dallas. Please dont sing praises for u17 LHGCL. That only further hurts Diaz case.

Lastly, thanks for confirmimg that FCD can do nothing with ECNL or ECNL junior unless the other 3/4 clubs agree. A new league with ECNL clubs only sounds a lot like Division 1 of LHGCL (with an annual exception here or there). Go look at all the divisions at LHGCL and tell me I am off base. Guess who controls LHGCL, umm those 5 clubs again.

So are you saying your a better coach than jd? get your fact straight. JD's u17 broke into ECNL, JD and a South Coach carried both teams and put that team in the A flight from B flight before they went to conferences. JD won D1 and put the ECNL u16 team in A flight. I am not comparing JD, CR and MG because i dont know MG or CR and I have never been to his teams, I am simply saying that JD is a really good coach. Are you going to tell me that his teams have not gotten better? if so you are, my friend
you are blind and maybe a little biased. also why would anyone think that MG would be afraid to play your Super Team, if I am correct. MG has competed against the best and still going strong which means he is doing a good job. JD, CR, MG from FCD and AS,CG, MC and KS from Solar are all good coaches. What I want to know is where do you fall in to this picture? just becasue you played at a high university level does not make you a good coach, u do not want to sit here and compare resumes with me. I may not be able to coach or have a daughter that is good and as gifted as yours but I guarantee you I played at a much higher level than you ever did. Your pissing into the wind my friend, in 86-87 I won the argentian first division with Rosario Central you my friend played at a university
when soccer was barely getting started here in the US

RoTFLMAO. I've never played soccer before so you have me confused with someone else.

Now on to your other weak attempts. What is with this "broke into ECNL" crap. If Diaz (no initials until he gets a rep) broke into ECNL that must have been why they removed him from their teams cause he didnt belong. Dont take my word or yours, just go to the ecnl standings and click any and all FCD teams. Someone is missing, why?

Why do you keep bringing MG into this discussion are you trying to get help by name association? Please try harder with facts not rants. Just putting Diaz name in a group of other well known and proven coaches doesnt make him one of them. You put a duck among swans and its just a duck among swans, not a swan. Sorry. Session dismissed. Diaz may or may not be a good coach but let his record speak for itslef and stop with the oversell it just makes me expose the truth. If you had just shut up Diaz and FCD would have appreciated it more. I dont think we will be hearing from you again so thanks for playing.

Note that STX and OK dont play 11v11 until u12. I wonder where the FCD pre ECNL travel team is going to travel to in order to face u11 11v11 competition. Ding, Ding, Ding you guessed it! LHGCL here in the DFW metroplex. Damn TruthSerum gets'em everytime.

Sorry SolarPower, I'm finished until more myths are told.

Dont even think about it Bumpy no one ever believes anything you say anyway so I wont bother to take on your tales.

TruthSerum wrote:Note that STX and OK dont play 11v11 until u12. I wonder where the FCD pre ECNL travel team is going to travel to in order to face u11 11v11 competition. Ding, Ding, Ding you guessed it! LHGCL here in the DFW metroplex. Damn TruthSerum gets'em everytime.

Sorry SolarPower, I'm finished until more myths are told.

Dont even think about it Bumpy no one ever believes anything you say anyway so I wont bother to take on your tales.

Wrong again, STX plays 9 v 9 on sat. League and 11 v 11 sunday league, OKC also plays 9 v 9, with the occasional 11 aside. We all know its not hard to play 11 v 11 right away. Ever thought maybe the US club league will go 8 v 8?

Ok- missed a few days..

The take always:
1. Bumpy is still drinking and posting
2. Wrong sided thinks truth serum is dm
3. Barney fife, I mean solarpower. Has me pegged as an ultra competitive Keegan mom.
4. FCD is falling apart on the forum. But in reality, no coaching changes have been made or announced, pre ecnl is only a discussion point and practices remain packed with kids.
5. AG has seemingly solidified the sting ss drama
6. Mc is forming a second solar team from srsa girls
7. Texans are still quiet about their plans
8. LP seems relatively quiet and non shaken

Anything else?

wrongsided wrote:

TruthSerum wrote:Note that STX and OK dont play 11v11 until u12. I wonder where the FCD pre ECNL travel team is going to travel to in order to face u11 11v11 competition. Ding, Ding, Ding you guessed it! LHGCL here in the DFW metroplex. Damn TruthSerum gets'em everytime.

Sorry SolarPower, I'm finished until more myths are told.

Dont even think about it Bumpy no one ever believes anything you say anyway so I wont bother to take on your tales.

Wrong again, STX plays 9 v 9 on sat. League and 11 v 11 sunday league, OKC also plays 9 v 9, with the occasional 11 aside. We all know its not hard to play 11 v 11 right away. Ever thought maybe the US club league will go 8 v 8?

I will take "9v9 with the occassional 11 aside " of your way of confirming my statement regarding Ok

Regarding STX, the LHCGL equivalent is EDDOA (Houston area)
and WDDOA (Austin area). They are governed by the STYSA which playing formats are posted on their website. Dont trust me check stxsoccer.org and click publications then age matrix. They dont play 11v11 in the LHGCL equivalent.

Target practice is over.

Out of all the 5 ECNL teams that includes the Dallas Texans, D'feeters, FCD, Solar, and Sting, who is going to coach the top teams for DT & Feet come select Great questions that should be asked by any 03 parent, these are decision makers when looking for a team, who will your DD play for come Select

Texans always have good options in R Scott, R Moreno, J Hollis or promote GA to Dallas side because he is basically responsible for all the Texans top teams in their youth academy from '03 down

All great choices, but don't be surprised if SB pools the best players in their youth academy and goes with RH because he is familiar with this age group. His '02's are dominating and he is a big name coach to counter AG and AS

If RH doesn't have the time, maybe the Texans can recruit a top coach and team from the outside

t's been done before. As for Feet, they need to first get a team It seems the last couple of years with the older groups at ECNL/select times Feet will just recruit an established team & coach from a rival club. This time it looks like LP would be the place to look

Lots of good coaches & competitive teams to pick from with Feet's ECNL future. Could Feet get the biggest prize and convince LW and all his great teams from '03 down to come over That would be a game changer that would make Feet relevant in the younger age groups again

flygirl wrote:Ok- missed a few days..

The take always:
1. Bumpy is still drinking and posting
2. Wrong sided thinks truth serum is dm
3. Barney fife, I mean solarpower. Has me pegged as an ultra competitive Keegan mom.
4. FCD is falling apart on the forum. But in reality, no coaching changes have been made or announced, pre ecnl is only a discussion point and practices remain packed with kids.
5. AG has seemingly solidified the sting ss drama
6. Mc is forming a second solar team from srsa girls
7. Texans are still quiet about their plans
8. LP seems relatively quiet and non shaken

Anything else?

Sorry Fly, your #2 is off. I don't think its dm. But you are right about #7, SB is very quiet about DT plans but its in the works.

wrongsided wrote:

flygirl wrote:Ok- missed a few days..

The take always:
1. Bumpy is still drinking and posting
2. Wrong sided thinks truth serum is dm
3. Barney fife, I mean solarpower. Has me pegged as an ultra competitive Keegan mom.
4. FCD is falling apart on the forum. But in reality, no coaching changes have been made or announced, pre ecnl is only a discussion point and practices remain packed with kids.
5. AG has seemingly solidified the sting ss drama
6. Mc is forming a second solar team from srsa girls
7. Texans are still quiet about their plans
8. LP seems relatively quiet and non shaken

Anything else?

Sorry Fly, your #2 is off. I don't think its dm. But you are right about #7, SB is very quiet about DT plans but its in the works.

Hmmm - then who else of the 03 coaches could you be talking about? SuperTeam, high university level soccer, good and gifted daughter - and Solar? - Sounds like DM to me.

Quoting you...

- Are you going to tell me that his teams have not gotten better? if so you are, my friend you are blind and maybe a little biased. also why would anyone think that MG would be afraid to play your Super Team, if I am correct. MG has competed against the best and still going strong which means he is doing a good job. JD, CR, MG from FCD and AS,CG, MC and KS from Solar are all good coaches. What I want to know is where do you fall in to this picture? just becasue you played at a high university level does not make you a good coach, u do not want to sit here and compare resumes with me. I may not be able to coach or have a daughter that is good and as gifted as yours but I guarantee you I played at a much higher level than you ever did.

I will let it go - lesson: lay off the Argentinian Vino when posting around Thanksgiving...

flygirl wrote:

wrongsided wrote:

flygirl wrote:Ok- missed a few days..

The take always:
1. Bumpy is still drinking and posting
2. Wrong sided thinks truth serum is dm
3. Barney fife, I mean solarpower. Has me pegged as an ultra competitive Keegan mom.
4. FCD is falling apart on the forum. But in reality, no coaching changes have been made or announced, pre ecnl is only a discussion point and practices remain packed with kids.
5. AG has seemingly solidified the sting ss drama
6. Mc is forming a second solar team from srsa girls
7. Texans are still quiet about their plans
8. LP seems relatively quiet and non shaken

Anything else?

Sorry Fly, your #2 is off. I don't think its dm. But you are right about #7, SB is very quiet about DT plans but its in the works.

Hmmm - then who else of the 03 coaches could you be talking about? SuperTeam, high university level soccer, good and gifted daughter - and Solar? - Sounds like DM to me.

Quoting you...

- Are you going to tell me that his teams have not gotten better? if so you are, my friend you are blind and maybe a little biased. also why would anyone think that MG would be afraid to play your Super Team, if I am correct. MG has competed against the best and still going strong which means he is doing a good job. JD, CR, MG from FCD and AS,CG, MC and KS from Solar are all good coaches. What I want to know is where do you fall in to this picture? just becasue you played at a high university level does not make you a good coach, u do not want to sit here and compare resumes with me. I may not be able to coach or have a daughter that is good and as gifted as yours but I guarantee you I played at a much higher level than you ever did.

I will let it go - lesson: lay off the Argentinian Vino when posting around Thanksgiving...

If you have a beef with DM, call him and save us the time in reading your BS. Not our fault your DD couldn't make his team. Sounds like a FCD Homer to me and if you drink the kool-aid/Advocare/jamba juice or whatever it may be, you will be put into a system where the girls side of things means nothing. All FCD cares about is the boys side that leads to the pro team.

Having your Pro PGA card doesn't count in the soccer world or better yet just because you drove in NASCAR also doesn't mean squat on the forum.

RocketFish wrote:

flygirl wrote:

wrongsided wrote:

flygirl wrote:Ok- missed a few days..

The take always:
1. Bumpy is still drinking and posting
2. Wrong sided thinks truth serum is dm
3. Barney fife, I mean solarpower. Has me pegged as an ultra competitive Keegan mom.
4. FCD is falling apart on the forum. But in reality, no coaching changes have been made or announced, pre ecnl is only a discussion point and practices remain packed with kids.
5. AG has seemingly solidified the sting ss drama
6. Mc is forming a second solar team from srsa girls
7. Texans are still quiet about their plans
8. LP seems relatively quiet and non shaken

Anything else?

Sorry Fly, your #2 is off. I don't think its dm. But you are right about #7, SB is very quiet about DT plans but its in the works.

Hmmm - then who else of the 03 coaches could you be talking about? SuperTeam, high university level soccer, good and gifted daughter - and Solar? - Sounds like DM to me.

Quoting you...

- Are you going to tell me that his teams have not gotten better? if so you are, my friend you are blind and maybe a little biased. also why would anyone think that MG would be afraid to play your Super Team, if I am correct. MG has competed against the best and still going strong which means he is doing a good job. JD, CR, MG from FCD and AS,CG, MC and KS from Solar are all good coaches. What I want to know is where do you fall in to this picture? just becasue you played at a high university level does not make you a good coach, u do not want to sit here and compare resumes with me. I may not be able to coach or have a daughter that is good and as gifted as yours but I guarantee you I played at a much higher level than you ever did.

I will let it go - lesson: lay off the Argentinian Vino when posting around Thanksgiving...

If you have a beef with DM, call him and save us the time in reading your BS. Not our fault your DD couldn't make his team. Sounds like a FCD Homer to me and if you drink the kool-aid/Advocare/jamba juice or whatever it may be, you will be put into a system where the girls side of things means nothing. All FCD cares about is the boys side that leads to the pro team.

Having your Pro PGA card doesn't count in the soccer world or better yet just because you drove in NASCAR also doesn't mean squat on the forum.

Totally agree Mr. Fish..

Also, an interesting website dedicated to Rosario Central 86/87 team with photos and even includes a full roster! Hmmm... none of the names look familiar to me. Too bad, that sounds like a great team. Would have made some good conversation at practice.

http://losguerreros.ar.tripod.com/todo1986.htm

umm, any real opinion about soccer and the top 20?

flygirl wrote:

RocketFish wrote:

flygirl wrote:

wrongsided wrote:

flygirl wrote:Ok- missed a few days..

The take always:
1. Bumpy is still drinking and posting
2. Wrong sided thinks truth serum is dm
3. Barney fife, I mean solarpower. Has me pegged as an ultra competitive Keegan mom.
4. FCD is falling apart on the forum. But in reality, no coaching changes have been made or announced, pre ecnl is only a discussion point and practices remain packed with kids.
5. AG has seemingly solidified the sting ss drama
6. Mc is forming a second solar team from srsa girls
7. Texans are still quiet about their plans
8. LP seems relatively quiet and non shaken

Anything else?

Sorry Fly, your #2 is off. I don't think its dm. But you are right about #7, SB is very quiet about DT plans but its in the works.

Hmmm - then who else of the 03 coaches could you be talking about? SuperTeam, high university level soccer, good and gifted daughter - and Solar? - Sounds like DM to me.

Quoting you...

- Are you going to tell me that his teams have not gotten better? if so you are, my friend you are blind and maybe a little biased. also why would anyone think that MG would be afraid to play your Super Team, if I am correct. MG has competed against the best and still going strong which means he is doing a good job. JD, CR, MG from FCD and AS,CG, MC and KS from Solar are all good coaches. What I want to know is where do you fall in to this picture? just becasue you played at a high university level does not make you a good coach, u do not want to sit here and compare resumes with me. I may not be able to coach or have a daughter that is good and as gifted as yours but I guarantee you I played at a much higher level than you ever did.

I will let it go - lesson: lay off the Argentinian Vino when posting around Thanksgiving...

If you have a beef with DM, call him and save us the time in reading your BS. Not our fault your DD couldn't make his team. Sounds like a FCD Homer to me and if you drink the kool-aid/Advocare/jamba juice or whatever it may be, you will be put into a system where the girls side of things means nothing. All FCD cares about is the boys side that leads to the pro team.

Having your Pro PGA card doesn't count in the soccer world or better yet just because you drove in NASCAR also doesn't mean squat on the forum.

Totally agree Mr. Fish..

Also, an interesting website dedicated to Rosario Central 86/87 team with photos and even includes a full roster! Hmmm... none of the names look familiar to me. Too bad, that sounds like a great team. Would have made some good conversation at practice.

http://losguerreros.ar.tripod.com/todo1986.htm

Totally lost in translation?

I have no idea WTH you are talking about, unless you are trying to tell me you played on that team with very short shorts. If that is the case, then you should actually be doing more with it if your DD plays in the 03 age group or if you have any kids that play at all for that matter. But it has been said just because you play at a high level doesn't mean you can coach, just look at Chad Deering. IMO

RocketFish wrote:

flygirl wrote:

RocketFish wrote:

flygirl wrote:

wrongsided wrote:

flygirl wrote:Ok- missed a few days..

The take always:
1. Bumpy is still drinking and posting
2. Wrong sided thinks truth serum is dm
3. Barney fife, I mean solarpower. Has me pegged as an ultra competitive Keegan mom.
4. FCD is falling apart on the forum. But in reality, no coaching changes have been made or announced, pre ecnl is only a discussion point and practices remain packed with kids.
5. AG has seemingly solidified the sting ss drama
6. Mc is forming a second solar team from srsa girls
7. Texans are still quiet about their plans
8. LP seems relatively quiet and non shaken

Anything else?

Sorry Fly, your #2 is off. I don't think its dm. But you are right about #7, SB is very quiet about DT plans but its in the works.

Hmmm - then who else of the 03 coaches could you be talking about? SuperTeam, high university level soccer, good and gifted daughter - and Solar? - Sounds like DM to me.

Quoting you...

- Are you going to tell me that his teams have not gotten better? if so you are, my friend you are blind and maybe a little biased. also why would anyone think that MG would be afraid to play your Super Team, if I am correct. MG has competed against the best and still going strong which means he is doing a good job. JD, CR, MG from FCD and AS,CG, MC and KS from Solar are all good coaches. What I want to know is where do you fall in to this picture? just becasue you played at a high university level does not make you a good coach, u do not want to sit here and compare resumes with me. I may not be able to coach or have a daughter that is good and as gifted as yours but I guarantee you I played at a much higher level than you ever did.

I will let it go - lesson: lay off the Argentinian Vino when posting around Thanksgiving...

If you have a beef with DM, call him and save us the time in reading your BS. Not our fault your DD couldn't make his team. Sounds like a FCD Homer to me and if you drink the kool-aid/Advocare/jamba juice or whatever it may be, you will be put into a system where the girls side of things means nothing. All FCD cares about is the boys side that leads to the pro team.

Having your Pro PGA card doesn't count in the soccer world or better yet just because you drove in NASCAR also doesn't mean squat on the forum.

Totally agree Mr. Fish..

Also, an interesting website dedicated to Rosario Central 86/87 team with photos and even includes a full roster! Hmmm... none of the names look familiar to me. Too bad, that sounds like a great team. Would have made some good conversation at practice.

http://losguerreros.ar.tripod.com/todo1986.htm

Totally lost in translation?

I have no idea WTH you are talking about, unless you are trying to tell me you played on that team with very short shorts. If that is the case, then you should actually be doing more with it if your DD plays in the 03 age group or if you have any kids that play at all for that matter. But it has been said just because you play at a high level doesn't mean you can coach, just look at Chad Deering. IMO

annnndddd we're back to the crapola...

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Totally agree Mr. Fish..

Also, an interesting website dedicated to Rosario Central 86/87 team with photos and even includes a full roster! Hmmm... none of the names look familiar to me. Too bad, that sounds like a great team. Would have made some good conversation at practice.

http://losguerreros.ar.tripod.com/todo1986.htm
[/quote]

Totally lost in translation?

I have no idea WTH you are talking about, unless you are trying to tell me you played on that team with very short shorts. If that is the case, then you should actually be doing more with it if your DD plays in the 03 age group or if you have any kids that play at all for that matter. But it has been said just because you play at a high level doesn't mean you can coach, just look at Chad Deering. IMO[/quote]


annnndddd we're back to the crapola... [/quote]

Silent - Why don't you start a worthwhile dialogue/commentary on your thoughts of where this is headed or it's current status? Let me help get you started:

Straight from the current FBR:

1. SRSA
2. DT South
3. LP Dalglish
4. Sting M
5. Fever
6. FCD East
7. FCD Premier
8. Sting SS/AG
9. Solar Colvin
10. Sting West
11. Vitesse
12. Cosmos Black
13. LP Whelan
14. FCD Frisco Diaz
15. LP Keegan
16. Sting Central
17. Sparta FC
18. Sting Goodman
19. Polaris Curiel
20. LP Rush

So do you have any worthwhile commentary or just good at one liners?

RocketFish wrote:

Totally agree Mr. Fish..

Also, an interesting website dedicated to Rosario Central 86/87 team with photos and even includes a full roster! Hmmm... none of the names look familiar to me. Too bad, that sounds like a great team. Would have made some good conversation at practice.

http://losguerreros.ar.tripod.com/todo1986.htm
[/quote]

Totally lost in translation?

I have no idea WTH you are talking about, unless you are trying to tell me you played on that team with very short shorts. If that is the case, then you should actually be doing more with it if your DD plays in the 03 age group or if you have any kids that play at all for that matter. But it has been said just because you play at a high level doesn't mean you can coach, just look at Chad Deering. IMO[/quote]


annnndddd we're back to the crapola... [/quote]

Silent - Why don't you start a worthwhile dialogue/commentary on your thoughts of where this is headed or it's current status? Let me help get you started:

Straight from the current FBR:

1. SRSA
2. DT South
3. LP Dalglish
4. Sting M
5. Fever
6. FCD East
7. FCD Premier
8. Sting SS/AG
9. Solar Colvin
10. Sting West
11. Vitesse
12. Cosmos Black
13. LP Whelan
14. FCD Frisco Diaz
15. LP Keegan
16. Sting Central
17. Sparta FC
18. Sting Goodman
19. Polaris Curiel
20. LP Rush

So do you have any worthwhile commentary or just good at one liners?


[/quote]

lol, good one well played. i agree essentially with the top 8, the next twelve could easily be mixed up and each team can beat the other on a given day.