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Re: '03 Division Outlook
RocketFish wrote:
Totally agree Mr. Fish..
Also, an interesting website dedicated to Rosario Central 86/87 team with photos and even includes a full roster! Hmmm... none of the names look familiar to me. Too bad, that sounds like a great team. Would have made some good conversation at practice.
http://losguerreros.ar.tripod.com/todo1986.htm
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Totally lost in translation?
I have no idea WTH you are talking about, unless you are trying to tell me you played on that team with very short shorts. If that is the case, then you should actually be doing more with it if your DD plays in the 03 age group or if you have any kids that play at all for that matter. But it has been said just because you play at a high level doesn't mean you can coach, just look at Chad Deering. IMO[/quote]
annnndddd we're back to the crapola... [/quote]
Silent - Why don't you start a worthwhile dialogue/commentary on your thoughts of where this is headed or it's current status? Let me help get you started:
Straight from the current FBR:
1. SRSA
2. DT South
3. LP Dalglish
4. Sting M
5. Fever
6. FCD East
7. FCD Premier
8. Sting SS/AG
9. Solar Colvin
10. Sting West
11. Vitesse
12. Cosmos Black
13. LP Whelan
14. FCD Frisco Diaz
15. LP Keegan
16. Sting Central
17. Sparta FC
18. Sting Goodman
19. Polaris Curiel
20. LP Rush
So do you have any worthwhile commentary or just good at one liners?
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lol, good one well played. i agree essentially with the top 8, the next twelve could easily be mixed up and each team can beat the other on a given day.
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silentparent wrote:RocketFish wrote:
Silent - Why don't you start a worthwhile dialogue/commentary on your thoughts of where this is headed or it's current status? Let me help get you started:
Straight from the current FBR:
1. SRSA
2. DT South
3. LP Dalglish
4. Sting M
5. Fever
6. FCD East
7. FCD Premier
8. Sting SS/AG
9. Solar Colvin
10. Sting West
11. Vitesse
12. Cosmos Black
13. LP Whelan
14. FCD Frisco Diaz
15. LP Keegan
16. Sting Central
17. Sparta FC
18. Sting Goodman
19. Polaris Curiel
20. LP Rush
So do you have any worthwhile commentary or just good at one liners?
lol, good one well played. i agree essentially with the top 8, the next twelve could easily be mixed up and each team can beat the other on a given day.
Well that was lame. IMO. My commentary:
1. SRSA - still top dog and if what Bumpy says well they are getting even stronger, but if his on the wagon again who knows what is really going on.
2. DT South - winning a couple of tourneys the past few weeks, what players are practicing elsewhere, if any?
3. LP Dalglish - very quiet these days, must have a gag order by the coach
4. Sting M - seems to be losing players, but did finish 2nd at the DT Fall Festival to DTS
5. Fever - is the Indy holding it together, seems like they are to date.
6. FCD East - the true Premier team, your guess is as good as mine
7. FCD Premier - FDCD #2 or #1? YOU make the call.
8. Sting SS/AG - is AG the answer, SS was not?
9. Solar Colvin - MC to build another Top 10, we'll see how the parents react to that?
10. Sting West - Still Sting West, knows how to pack the box
11. Vitesse - can they break the Top10 and who will they tackle to get it?
12. Cosmos Black - hoping this Indys keeps it together as well
13. LP Whelan - any updates?
14. FCD Frisco Diaz -FCD #3
15. LP Keegan - LP #3 team on the list, can they break the Top 10? Will be tough.
16. Sting Central - Yet another Sting team, treading water? Status quo?
17. Sparta FC - have no idea
18. Sting Goodman - looked good at the DT Fall Festival, had the 6' 03 DD, OMG - should be a GK
19. Polaris Curiel - out west and staying out of the limelight
20. LP Rush - $ teams in the Top 20, look out they could have a strong hold come qualifying and all 4 make D1
That's all I got, anyone care to bash, agree or obstain?
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(According to the lastest FBRs)
1. SRSA (even more dominant)
2. DT South (best of the rest)
3. LP Dalglish (free agent pick ups should keep them in the top5)
4. Sting M (hanging on with a short roster- still strong)
5. Fever (dust is settling,still plenty of talent,should be interesting)
6. FCD East (still has 1-2 punch on offense,no news is good news)
7. FCD Premier (A++ grade for off season acquisitions)
8. Sting SS/AG (new coach, solid core, we shall see)
9. Solar Colvin (B team has enough to fly on its own)
10. Sting West (new faces, good coach, steady D, rebuilding a bit)
11. Vitesse (showed they can beat a Gold)
12. Cosmos Black (are they still Gold?)
13. LP Whelan (solid D, ready for Gold?)
14. FCD Frisco Diaz (isn't this mainly FCD P?)
15. LP Keegan (nice offense, but can be scored upon more than the LPs above)
16. Sting Central (new to the top20...on the rise?)
17. Sparta FC (?)
18. Sting Goodman (pretty dominate in SDL..time to step it up)
19. Polaris Curiel (rebounding nicely)
20. LP Rush (underrated, will climb this Spring for sure)
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i put lp rush much higher, beat sting west,beat keegan and went to final at the sting cup but got pummeled by adames. i rate the lp teams as daglish, rush whelan, keegan with the last three teams very evenSolarPower00 wrote:Here's my two cents:
1. SRSA (even more dominant)
2. DT South (best of the rest)
3. LP Dalglish (free agent pick ups should keep them in the top5)
4. Sting M (hanging on with a short roster- still strong)
5. Fever (dust is settling...should be interesting)
6. FCD East (?)
7. FCD Premier (A++ grade for off season acquisitions)
8. Sting SS/AG (new coach, solid core, we shall see)
9. Solar Colvin (B team has enough to fly on its own)
10. Sting West (new faces, good coach, steady D, rebuilding a bit)
11. Vitesse (showed they can beat a Gold)
12. Cosmos Black (are they still Gold?)
13. LP Whelan (solid D, ready for Gold?)
14. FCD Frisco Diaz (isn't this mainly FCD P?)
15. LP Keegan (nice offense, but can be scored upon more than the LPs above)
16. Sting Central (new to the top20...on the rise?)
17. Sparta FC (?)
18. Sting Goodman (pretty dominate in SDL..time to step it up)
19. Polaris Curiel (rebounding nicely)
20. LP Rush (underrated, will climb this Spring for sure)
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Question now is Will LP combine top players from multiple teams to form a super team?
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Each bring a little something different to the table....but with Rush's recent success, they pass Keegan. sorry. All three are extremely close IMO.
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Till-I-Collapse wrote:However you cut it, LP has 4 teams in the top 20. How long before LW forms a super team OR another club comes knocking on some LP doors
CAn someone enlighten me on who coaches the individual LP teams, LW doesn't coach them all? So which ones does he coach?
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Till-I-Collapse wrote:However you cut it, LP has 4 teams in the top 20. How long before LW forms a super team OR another club comes knocking on some LP doors
I think DeFeeters is really the only big organization looking for an 03 presence that could justify courting an LP coach / team. The ECNL lure is very real and very powerful. But they would be smart to wait at least another year before playing that card.
Solar, FCD and Sting are pretty solid with numbers for D1. Texans have DTS, which by the looks of tournament play will absorb Vitesse to solidify?, and two more potential D1 teams hovering in the low 20 rankings - I guess they could justify courting another top 10 team as well, but not likely.
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flygirl wrote:Till-I-Collapse wrote:However you cut it, LP has 4 teams in the top 20. How long before LW forms a super team OR another club comes knocking on some LP doors
I think DeFeeters is really the only big organization looking for an 03 presence that could justify courting an LP coach / team. The ECNL lure is very real and very powerful. But they would be smart to wait at least another year before playing that card.
Solar, FCD and Sting are pretty solid with numbers for D1. Texans have DTS, which by the looks of tournament play will absorb Vitesse to solidify?, and two more potential D1 teams hovering in the low 20 rankings - I guess they could justify courting another top 10 team as well, but not likely.
I beg to differ, all clubs look to court good talent. Now Feet are the club that is in the worst position within the 03 age group that is in ECNL (for now) and is NOT in the Top 20+. I would see Fever being courted before LW and his LP team(s). I haven't the Vitesse/Texans rumor mill.
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ddsgotgame wrote:Moving to college is probably, as wrongsided says - “a better fit.” I don’t think JD gets U10 girls and I don’t think I ever saw a kid on this team smiling at practice. If anything, I think some kids have developed confidence issues as they get moved roster to roster weekly and with such a fluid “A” team, it has yet to gel. Maybe that works for ECNL, but these are 9/10 year olds.
JD is a trooper for dipping his toe deeper in the water, but may now be finding the rapids of FCD coaching politics. Being an absolute success at the ECNL level is plenty, but when a crisis struck with 03 Premier parents, he agreed to take on the team at academy-coach pay - and has now further been given ever-expanding roles in the girls academy program.
JD is very impressive and talented as a coach - but his team, ‘the core 9’ which was left after he cleaned house, has quickly grown to near 40 with only 5 remanning of the original girls.
“Premier” has become a skills clinic as the kids are moved up/down the two rosters weekly without any feedback or consistency. The forced-marriage with RP’s team (the ‘second team’) was a big indicator of the club’s priority for Premier. Seriously - since when do Second Team parents make demands as to what a club does with its First Team and get what they want (merge)? Note the B roster finished close to last in TGPL Silver - but the two rosters would routinely practice together once/twice a week with RP managing 30+ kids solo. And RP as co-coach was the WORST thing the club could have done. That guy has absolutely no business coaching 9 year olds, period.
Each of that Core 9 which has left has moved on to develop and play much better elsewhere. Is it JD’s coaching? No; I say its the FCD “system.” The club has chosen quantity over quality. It seems with their corporate mentality, they’re having a tough time navigating the academy world. I think it’s a lot to expect of a relatively new-to-the-area/age coach to come into the final year of academy and be expected to recruit top girls for D1.
If JD goes - do the kids with options from other teams leave or stay? Can they trust any new promises from the club?
I ponder if MG could even step into this mess and pull a team together at this date with all the changes which have gone-on over the past year. (It’s also been long-rumored he doesn’t want to attempt to compete against DM’s legendary masterpiece called ‘SRSA’.)
Does “Premier” have to be based in Frisco? Is it as simple as FCD Predator (East) taking the title.
Can they buy a coach/team from another club, and - anyone want to speculate contenders - does the Frisco location complicate things?
Other than MG or CR, can one come in now and recruit top talent?
Does the Pre ECNL plan become even more important and give the club options other than Lake Highlands (but at Select fees)?
It'll be very interesting to see how this plays out (again, assuming wrongsided is right).
At the end of the day we are talking about 9 and 10 year old girls. Many of them love soccer with their friends right now, but many or even most will find equal or greater interests as they get older. To talk about college soccer at this age is rather ludicrous, plenty of time to focus on that later as they approach the end of middle school/begin high school IMHO.
As far as F.C. Dallas goes, it is clear that they have been oriented as a boys club. That is where the majority of their coaching talent is to be found. Being so late to the table, they appear to be running round trying to grab kids to make rosters in order to make up for their lack of real academy presence.
With regard to 03s, the Predator team apears to be the strongest in their club and the one that should receive the club's backing as their Premier team. I am sure that JH would not have brought his team from Juventus without a guarantee of strong support. On the other side of town, they will need to do something seen about the Frisco 03 operation to compete with the big dogs at U11. The coach does not seem very charismatic and kids look uninspired. Lots of great salesmanship but the educated eye can spot when the promise of college riches is papering over things. The way to attract true talent is to focus on high quality soccer teaching, not by running mesmerizing pre-pre-pre-pre-pre ECNL sales pitches to gullible parents.
Frankly, if the kids are not getting the proper training now at 9-10 years old from a high quality coach, the chances are that top level college soccer won't even be an option.
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Do they not have 2 top 6 teams? I am almost sure since they are so far apart they are not sharing players
I would call that a presence
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RocketFish wrote:flygirl wrote:Till-I-Collapse wrote:However you cut it, LP has 4 teams in the top 20. How long before LW forms a super team OR another club comes knocking on some LP doors
I think DeFeeters is really the only big organization looking for an 03 presence that could justify courting an LP coach / team. The ECNL lure is very real and very powerful. But they would be smart to wait at least another year before playing that card.
Solar, FCD and Sting are pretty solid with numbers for D1. Texans have DTS, which by the looks of tournament play will absorb Vitesse to solidify?, and two more potential D1 teams hovering in the low 20 rankings - I guess they could justify courting another top 10 team as well, but not likely.
I beg to differ, all clubs look to court good talent. Now Feet are the club that is in the worst position within the 03 age group that is in ECNL (for now) and is NOT in the Top 20+. I would see Fever being courted before LW and his LP team(s). I haven't the Vitesse/Texans rumor mill.
For the record, I don't think LW is going anywhere. I would look for other coaches not feeling LP love jumping with a team - or at least key players to someone like Feet.
Fever? maybe, but he has it going pretty good right now in multiple age groups and his DD is the centerpiece to the 03 team, I would bet against him letting go at this point.
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flygirl wrote:RocketFish wrote:flygirl wrote:Till-I-Collapse wrote:However you cut it, LP has 4 teams in the top 20. How long before LW forms a super team OR another club comes knocking on some LP doors
I think DeFeeters is really the only big organization looking for an 03 presence that could justify courting an LP coach / team. The ECNL lure is very real and very powerful. But they would be smart to wait at least another year before playing that card.
Solar, FCD and Sting are pretty solid with numbers for D1. Texans have DTS, which by the looks of tournament play will absorb Vitesse to solidify?, and two more potential D1 teams hovering in the low 20 rankings - I guess they could justify courting another top 10 team as well, but not likely.
I beg to differ, all clubs look to court good talent. Now Feet are the club that is in the worst position within the 03 age group that is in ECNL (for now) and is NOT in the Top 20+. I would see Fever being courted before LW and his LP team(s). I haven't the Vitesse/Texans rumor mill.
For the record, I don't think LW is going anywhere. I would look for other coaches not feeling LP love jumping with a team - or at least key players to someone like Feet.
Fever? maybe, but he has it going pretty good right now in multiple age groups and his DD is the centerpiece to the 03 team, I would bet against him letting go at this point.
D'Feeters MO has been to wait until U13 or U14 to court a team for ECNL. However, if a coach becomes unhappy with their current club and they are a top team, I am sure they would entertain bringing them in.
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soccer315 wrote:flygirl wrote:RocketFish wrote:flygirl wrote:Till-I-Collapse wrote:However you cut it, LP has 4 teams in the top 20. How long before LW forms a super team OR another club comes knocking on some LP doors
I think DeFeeters is really the only big organization looking for an 03 presence that could justify courting an LP coach / team. The ECNL lure is very real and very powerful. But they would be smart to wait at least another year before playing that card.
Solar, FCD and Sting are pretty solid with numbers for D1. Texans have DTS, which by the looks of tournament play will absorb Vitesse to solidify?, and two more potential D1 teams hovering in the low 20 rankings - I guess they could justify courting another top 10 team as well, but not likely.
I beg to differ, all clubs look to court good talent. Now Feet are the club that is in the worst position within the 03 age group that is in ECNL (for now) and is NOT in the Top 20+. I would see Fever being courted before LW and his LP team(s). I haven't the Vitesse/Texans rumor mill.
For the record, I don't think LW is going anywhere. I would look for other coaches not feeling LP love jumping with a team - or at least key players to someone like Feet.
Fever? maybe, but he has it going pretty good right now in multiple age groups and his DD is the centerpiece to the 03 team, I would bet against him letting go at this point.
D'Feeters MO has been to wait until U13 or U14 to court a team for ECNL. However, if a coach becomes unhappy with their current club and they are a top team, I am sure they would entertain bringing them in.
Maybe that's the problem, the Feet has lost it's luster for some time now. Competing at the older ages but seriously struggling at the younger age groups. They need a change from the top down and some new blood in coaching. It is not just working. Time for an MO change. The ones they have been bringing in aren't tearing it up that's for sure. With this day and age and ECNL creeping into the younger age groups, they need HELP.
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1. SRSA
2. DTSouth
3. LP Dalglish
4. Sting M
5. Fever
6. FCD East 'The Real Premier'
7. FCD 'Not so Premier'
8. Sting AG
9. Solar Chelsea Colvin
10. Sting West
11. Vitesse
12.Cosmos
13. LP Whelan
14. FC Dallas 2nd Diaz
15. LP Keegan
16. Sting Central
17. Sparta
18. Sting Goodman
19. Polaris
20. LP Rush
I have tons to say but will leave it to someone else to start it off.
Any sleepers in the group?
Teams that will shock a Top 10?
Team that should be a Top 10?
Who is your favorite to make headlines in the Spring?
Who will fall from grace?
Who will implode/explode/dissolve all in one?
Who will merge?
Who wants to merge?
Let the fun begin...Good 'ol 03 Outlook is back in action.
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BumpyPitch wrote:Sorry for the hiatus, Asia was great. Thanks for asking. Ne w FBR is out and seems like it is the same ol story...
1. SRSA
2. DTSouth
3. LP Dalglish
4. Sting M
5. Fever
6. FCD East 'The Real Premier'
7. FCD 'Not so Premier'
8. Sting AG
9. Solar Chelsea Colvin
10. Sting West
11. Vitesse
12.Cosmos
13. LP Whelan
14. FC Dallas 2nd Diaz
15. LP Keegan
16. Sting Central
17. Sparta
18. Sting Goodman
19. Polaris
20. LP Rush
I have tons to say but will leave it to someone else to start it off.
Any sleepers in the group?
Teams that will shock a Top 10?
Team that should be a Top 10?
Who is your favorite to make headlines in the Spring?
Who will fall from grace?
Who will implode/explode/dissolve all in one?
Who will merge?
Who wants to merge?
Let the fun begin...Good 'ol 03 Outlook is back in action.
When did new FBR rankings come out? The ones someone commented on recently are from a few weeks ago. I assume there will be some movement with the most recent tournaments.
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Just a request.
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GrandTXSoccer wrote:For the love of all that is good and holy, please start a new thread about this. I'm tired of shifting through pages of posts about 5 different topics. FCD coaching rumors, the secret identity of certain posters, 03 outlook, double secret pre ecnl, and I'm sure something else has been discussed.
Just a request.
If can't hit the 10th Page then don't read, or just answer the questions. Very simple and not rocket science. This has been a very insightful thread and at the very least fun to keep up with.
Now answer the questions...we are waiting.
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1. SRSA - no comment needed
2. DTSouth - have all players planning to leave, left? Have all new arrivals arrived? Probably, mergers? Rumored.
3. LP Dalglish - stronger and quieter, expect to take over #2 spot in spring and maybe even give SRSA a game
4. Sting M - scoring mojo was gone in the Texans tournament, but the halves were short, will battle with Sting G for supremacy in spring
5. Fever - will drop in the 10-15 range by spring
6. FCD East 'The Real Premier' - did the move from Juventus actually help or cause more headache?
7. FCD 'Not so Premier' - seems like a little turmoil going on with this one, FCD = politics it seems.
8. Sting AG - one to watch
9. Solar Chelsea Colvin - who? a mythical creature who has not shown itself in the light where everyone can see what it actually is...
11. Vitesse - coaches DD and other A players seen playing with DTS
12. Cosmos - don't know much about this one, didn't fair too well last season
13. LP Whelan - will break top 10 in spring
14. FC Dallas 2nd Diaz - will fall out of top 20
15. LP Keegan - Whelan, Keegan, Rush all can be the #2 LP team when they are clicking - will knock each other in and out of top 10 next season
16. Sting Central - who?
17. Sparta - know nothing of this one
18. Sting Goodman - number 3 Sting team behind M and G
19. Polaris - quiet and away on purpose
20. LP Rush - you want a sleeper? here it is...
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So, we'll try this one.
Enjoyed the top20 report fly_girl. You left out a number.
Quality reading. That's 2 minutes of my life I won't get back
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1. SRSA - Cream of the crop and getting better with new additions
2. DTSouth - Still #2 but not for long
3. LP Dalglish - the new #2, maybe - have to see how Sting regroups
4. Sting M - losing its momentum
5. Fever - ripe for a merger
6. FCD East 'The Real Premier'- King of FCD, lucky to not be on Frisco where the politics run high
7. FCD 'Not so Premier' - can Diaz keep this going or will the politics run him off
8. Sting AG - how will the new sheriff in town bring it all together?
9. Solar Chelsea Colvin - another new sheriff in the age group interesting and a wild card
10. Sting West - defense can't hold on forever, need some attacking additions
11. Vitesse - If Coach's DD and other head to DTS, this Indy's is no longer
12.Cosmos - steadily falling down the charts
13. LP Whelan - One of the many LP teams
14. FC Dallas 2nd Diaz - is this Palmisano? Will end up in D3 come July
15. LP Keegan - Moving up quite nicely
16. Sting Central - should merge with Cosmos, or vice versa but don't think TW would do that
17. Sparta - land of the lost, who is this?
18. Sting Goodman - Moved up in the charts but still not a contender
19. Polaris - do they practice on the moon?
20. LP Rush- 4th in the Top 20, LP will have 3 teams looking to knock each other off each week
Now to the fun part...
Any sleepers in the group? Sparta
Teams that will shock a Top 10? Possibly Vitesse if they can hold it together
Team that should be a Top 10? Maybe Whelan?
Who is your favorite to make headlines in the Spring? SRSA will continue to dominate, but the boys this time around
Who will fall from grace? - Sting M, needs numbers badly
Who will implode/explode/dissolve all in one? Fever and Vitesse, Sting M could be put in this one if numbers do not increase significantly, The coaches arrogance turns parents away.
Who will merge? Vitesse and DTS
Who wants/needs to merge? Fever and Feet
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SolarPower00 wrote:Admin advised that my last avatar displayed Liverpool in a 'less than favorable light'.
So, we'll try this one.
Enjoyed the top20 report fly_girl. You left out a number.
Quality reading. That's 2 minutes of my life I won't get back
Boo, bring back the other avatar. Well at least now my husband has no reason to look over my shoulder. Yay.
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