Parents to be banned from Liverpool practices

silentparent wrote:

the7wolf wrote:

Gunners wrote:Why do I get the feeling there are people who chastised this approach when used by the Texans who are now fully embracing it at Liverpool.

Btw, Texans stopped doing it a year ago.

Because the Texans then sold those kids on Chinese eBay when the parents were too far away to stop them being loaded on the Greyhound bus.

Plus the parents were waterboarded for no reason at all.

Obviously not the same situation.

lame, completely lame. The reason i suspect was the bad pr they took. you again don't know what you are talking about...

They took bad pr from people who hold the same view as you. So are you saying those people were wrong or right?

the7wolf wrote:

silentparent wrote:

the7wolf wrote:

silentparent wrote:

JewelsBMF wrote:

silentparent wrote:


and perhaps coaches would like to conduct their practices without any accountability from pesky parents who want to watch what their kids are being taught for 2400 a year, secrecy is ALWAYS bad when it concerns children. heard this was to start after signing, gee i wonder why that would be the time to institute it, perhaps when parents have no leverage?

You either pay city taxes on your house or send your kid to a private school, either way thousands of your dollars are going to your child's education each year. I really doubt your sitting in the back of the class making sure your thousands of dollars are being well spent. The way to measure if your child's education is paying off is if their grades are good and they are enjoying school. Same goes for soccer, if they are enjoying soccer and your child is playing well in games, then you don't need to hawk the coach and kids during practice.

nice try, the way to measure things is if parents are made to feel welcome or made to feel as a burden. i doubt you would send your kid to a school that banned parental involvement or didn't let you come to the school. I would have to think twice about joining any organization that viewed parents as a burden....

I think EVERY organization would view YOU specifically as a burden so I'm figuring home schooling, countless hours of solitaire and existential musing courts large quantities of your time.

If you genuinely don't see an issue with parents sitting behind goals or 5-10 yards from practice coaching their kids without having to draw ludicrous parallels between secrecy, banning parents from all involvement, etc. you're crazier than most of us thought. And some of us though you'd already reached the limit a while back when your conspiracy theories on the forum being run by Liverpool and BWGophers being paid by Liverpool to rank their teams highly.

Have a good disassociative identity disorder type of day. The signs are good.

lol, funny you are ok with organizations that view you the paying customer as a burden. i never posted that about liverpool, so not only are you are you wrong, you are a sloppy poster who does not even know who posted what. Come back when you can get your facts straight....

If the "paying customer" wants to regularly tell me how to do my job then yes, they are a burden. Feel free to tell people at the tattoo parlor, nail salon and hairdressers exactly what you want and how you want it. If your coach is happy with you telling your kid what to do, when to do it, suggest formation changes, where to play your dd, who to sub, etc. then good for you. In 99.9% of cases, you'd be declared a pain in the lower duodenum.

another ridiculous post that is irrelevant, you are on a roll. no one wants to do that, merely observe their children in a respectful way, hardly a burden....

the7wolf wrote:

silentparent wrote:

the7wolf wrote:

Gunners wrote:Why do I get the feeling there are people who chastised this approach when used by the Texans who are now fully embracing it at Liverpool.

Btw, Texans stopped doing it a year ago.

Because the Texans then sold those kids on Chinese eBay when the parents were too far away to stop them being loaded on the Greyhound bus.

Plus the parents were waterboarded for no reason at all.

Obviously not the same situation.

lame, completely lame. The reason i suspect was the bad pr they took. you again don't know what you are talking about...

They took bad pr from people who hold the same view as you. So are you saying those people were wrong or right?

ANY organization that wants to keep parents from watching interactions between adults and children in a secretive way, in this day and age is not only suspect but frankly crazy....

Gunners wrote:Btw, Texans stopped doing it a year ago.

Really? That little tidbit of knowledge should, in itself, keep Liverpool from implementing this move. The Texans organization isn't dumb so they wouldn't reverse such a challenging policy like that without good reason.

Do you know why the Texans made that decision? The bad PR was there but relatively short-lived. Those growing pains should be in the past. Were the coaches having to waste time during practices to cater to the kids' every need that parents would otherwise manage? Were the kids still getting distracted because the parents were too far away? Was time being wasted when kids' needed something and had to make a long trek?

The new policy has already been in place for a couple of weeks at BS Colony. The parents are asked to sit around the perimeter of the field and not on top of the teams. The parents of my dd's team are probably 25-30 yds away. At this distance, they can see everything, but are not close enough to offer constant "advice". Perfect.

Complete non-issue.

bigtex75081 wrote:

Gunners wrote:Btw, Texans stopped doing it a year ago.

Really? That little tidbit of knowledge should, in itself, keep Liverpool from implementing this move. The Texans organization isn't dumb so they wouldn't reverse such a challenging policy like that without good reason.

Do you know why the Texans made that decision? The bad PR was there but relatively short-lived. Those growing pains should be in the past. Were the coaches having to waste time during practices to cater to the kids' every need that parents would otherwise manage? Were the kids still getting distracted because the parents were too far away? Was time being wasted when kids' needed something and had to make a long trek?

bingo

silentparent wrote:

the7wolf wrote:

silentparent wrote:

the7wolf wrote:

silentparent wrote:

JewelsBMF wrote:

You either pay city taxes on your house or send your kid to a private school, either way thousands of your dollars are going to your child's education each year. I really doubt your sitting in the back of the class making sure your thousands of dollars are being well spent. The way to measure if your child's education is paying off is if their grades are good and they are enjoying school. Same goes for soccer, if they are enjoying soccer and your child is playing well in games, then you don't need to hawk the coach and kids during practice.

nice try, the way to measure things is if parents are made to feel welcome or made to feel as a burden. i doubt you would send your kid to a school that banned parental involvement or didn't let you come to the school. I would have to think twice about joining any organization that viewed parents as a burden....

I think EVERY organization would view YOU specifically as a burden so I'm figuring home schooling, countless hours of solitaire and existential musing courts large quantities of your time.

If you genuinely don't see an issue with parents sitting behind goals or 5-10 yards from practice coaching their kids without having to draw ludicrous parallels between secrecy, banning parents from all involvement, etc. you're crazier than most of us thought. And some of us though you'd already reached the limit a while back when your conspiracy theories on the forum being run by Liverpool and BWGophers being paid by Liverpool to rank their teams highly.

Have a good disassociative identity disorder type of day. The signs are good.

lol, funny you are ok with organizations that view you the paying customer as a burden. i never posted that about liverpool, so not only are you are you wrong, you are a sloppy poster who does not even know who posted what. Come back when you can get your facts straight....

If the "paying customer" wants to regularly tell me how to do my job then yes, they are a burden. Feel free to tell people at the tattoo parlor, nail salon and hairdressers exactly what you want and how you want it. If your coach is happy with you telling your kid what to do, when to do it, suggest formation changes, where to play your dd, who to sub, etc. then good for you. In 99.9% of cases, you'd be declared a pain in the lower duodenum.

another ridiculous post that is irrelevant, you are on a roll. no one wants to do that, merely observe their children in a respectful way, hardly a burden....

Who's arguing about "respectful" parents?

You keep throwing the word "secrecy" in your posts when we're talking the difference between 5-10 yards and 25-30 yards.

If that's your true definition of "secrecy" and "banning" parents, I think you should quit while you're behind.

the7wolf wrote:

silentparent wrote:

the7wolf wrote:

silentparent wrote:

the7wolf wrote:

silentparent wrote:

nice try, the way to measure things is if parents are made to feel welcome or made to feel as a burden. i doubt you would send your kid to a school that banned parental involvement or didn't let you come to the school. I would have to think twice about joining any organization that viewed parents as a burden....

I think EVERY organization would view YOU specifically as a burden so I'm figuring home schooling, countless hours of solitaire and existential musing courts large quantities of your time.

If you genuinely don't see an issue with parents sitting behind goals or 5-10 yards from practice coaching their kids without having to draw ludicrous parallels between secrecy, banning parents from all involvement, etc. you're crazier than most of us thought. And some of us though you'd already reached the limit a while back when your conspiracy theories on the forum being run by Liverpool and BWGophers being paid by Liverpool to rank their teams highly.

Have a good disassociative identity disorder type of day. The signs are good.

lol, funny you are ok with organizations that view you the paying customer as a burden. i never posted that about liverpool, so not only are you are you wrong, you are a sloppy poster who does not even know who posted what. Come back when you can get your facts straight....

If the "paying customer" wants to regularly tell me how to do my job then yes, they are a burden. Feel free to tell people at the tattoo parlor, nail salon and hairdressers exactly what you want and how you want it. If your coach is happy with you telling your kid what to do, when to do it, suggest formation changes, where to play your dd, who to sub, etc. then good for you. In 99.9% of cases, you'd be declared a pain in the lower duodenum.

another ridiculous post that is irrelevant, you are on a roll. no one wants to do that, merely observe their children in a respectful way, hardly a burden....

Who's arguing about "respectful" parents?

You keep throwing the word "secrecy" in your posts when we're talking the difference between 5-10 yards and 25-30 yards.

If that's your true definition of "secrecy" and "banning" parents, I think you should quit while you're behind.

where's my posts about how liverpool pays bw gophers? found that yet?

Gunner9 wrote:The new policy has already been in place for a couple of weeks at BS Colony. The parents are asked to sit around the perimeter of the field and not on top of the teams. The parents of my dd's team are probably 25-30 yds away. At this distance, they can see everything, but are not close enough to offer constant "advice". Perfect.

Complete non-issue.

That makes sense and seems like a great policy. The parents should not be close enough to influence the practice or their kid during practice. BArring those things, they can sit at a distance anywhere they want. I don't understand the possible objection to this kind of policy.

I have a friend that has family in Brazil and down there, the kids actually do go to practice on their own and the parents are not invited or allowed. At games, if a parent yells an instruction at his/her kid, the coach subs that kid out, calls the parent over and tells them both to leave. You are summarily dismissed from the team because your parent can't keep quiet. IF we did that in NTX we probably would not have enough players to field a team.

My question for silent parent is: if the policy is as Gunner describes, what is the objection to this?

silentparent wrote:

where's my posts about how liverpool pays bw gophers? found that yet?

Yeah! Where is that?????

Papa needs a new TaylorMade R1!!!

RunsLikeWind wrote:

Gunner9 wrote:The new policy has already been in place for a couple of weeks at BS Colony. The parents are asked to sit around the perimeter of the field and not on top of the teams. The parents of my dd's team are probably 25-30 yds away. At this distance, they can see everything, but are not close enough to offer constant "advice". Perfect.

Complete non-issue.

That makes sense and seems like a great policy. The parents should not be close enough to influence the practice or their kid during practice. BArring those things, they can sit at a distance anywhere they want. I don't understand the possible objection to this kind of policy.

I have a friend that has family in Brazil and down there, the kids actually do go to practice on their own and the parents are not invited or allowed. At games, if a parent yells an instruction at his/her kid, the coach subs that kid out, calls the parent over and tells them both to leave. You are summarily dismissed from the team because your parent can't keep quiet. IF we did that in NTX we probably would not have enough players to field a team.

My question for silent parent is: if the policy is as Gunner describes, what is the objection to this?

well, first i would say every body sits on the perimeter of a practice. not sure where else you could sit. Second, it depends, if they ask you to sit way off or in the blue sky facility or in your car or just to drop your kids off how would you feel about that? I guess it is going to depend on how it is implemented...

silentparent wrote:

RunsLikeWind wrote:

Gunner9 wrote:The new policy has already been in place for a couple of weeks at BS Colony. The parents are asked to sit around the perimeter of the field and not on top of the teams. The parents of my dd's team are probably 25-30 yds away. At this distance, they can see everything, but are not close enough to offer constant "advice". Perfect.

Complete non-issue.

That makes sense and seems like a great policy. The parents should not be close enough to influence the practice or their kid during practice. BArring those things, they can sit at a distance anywhere they want. I don't understand the possible objection to this kind of policy.

I have a friend that has family in Brazil and down there, the kids actually do go to practice on their own and the parents are not invited or allowed. At games, if a parent yells an instruction at his/her kid, the coach subs that kid out, calls the parent over and tells them both to leave. You are summarily dismissed from the team because your parent can't keep quiet. IF we did that in NTX we probably would not have enough players to field a team.

My question for silent parent is: if the policy is as Gunner describes, what is the objection to this?

well, first i would say every body sits on the perimeter of a practice. not sure where else you could sit. Second, it depends, if they ask you to sit way off or in the blue sky facility or in your car or just to drop your kids off how would you feel about that? I guess it is going to depend on how it is implemented...

No argument there. IT all depends on how any policy would be implemented. IF they allow you to sit at the other end of the field, over 40 yard away, but you still can see, there should be no problem with it. If I had a comfort level of safety with my kids coach, I also would not have a problem droppnig them off or sitting inside blue sky. I think you will see as kids get older parents come to practice less and less. The main reason at the young age is simply because the kids are young, not to make sure the coach is doing his job right.

IT sounds like from Gunners what LP is proposing is a good idea and would benefit any team. Get the parents out of the coaching business. Show up, pay up and shut up.

Okay again I have never heard of banning parents from practice isn't happening and was never in anybodies plans. So why would they share this information with you SP before anyone else? So SP give us the exact date this is going down on so I know when to plan my lovely tour of the colony during practice. And why you guys believe SP rantings is beyond me . Is his love of LW and LP so strong that it has made him a LP insider and he is privy to information that even coaches don't have? Or is he just an A$5hole spouting off about things that he has no idea about?

silentparent wrote:

RunsLikeWind wrote:

Gunner9 wrote:The new policy has already been in place for a couple of weeks at BS Colony. The parents are asked to sit around the perimeter of the field and not on top of the teams. The parents of my dd's team are probably 25-30 yds away. At this distance, they can see everything, but are not close enough to offer constant "advice". Perfect.

Complete non-issue.

That makes sense and seems like a great policy. The parents should not be close enough to influence the practice or their kid during practice. BArring those things, they can sit at a distance anywhere they want. I don't understand the possible objection to this kind of policy.

I have a friend that has family in Brazil and down there, the kids actually do go to practice on their own and the parents are not invited or allowed. At games, if a parent yells an instruction at his/her kid, the coach subs that kid out, calls the parent over and tells them both to leave. You are summarily dismissed from the team because your parent can't keep quiet. IF we did that in NTX we probably would not have enough players to field a team.

My question for silent parent is: if the policy is as Gunner describes, what is the objection to this?

well, first i would say every body sits on the perimeter of a practice. not sure where else you could sit. Second, it depends, if they ask you to sit way off or in the blue sky facility or in your car or just to drop your kids off how would you feel about that? I guess it is going to depend on how it is implemented...

Whoa SP first its an outright ban and now its sitting on the perimeter? Which one is it, you tell us. It's your post provlaiming an outright ban. Are you now backing away from that claim?

go99 wrote:

silentparent wrote:

RunsLikeWind wrote:

Gunner9 wrote:The new policy has already been in place for a couple of weeks at BS Colony. The parents are asked to sit around the perimeter of the field and not on top of the teams. The parents of my dd's team are probably 25-30 yds away. At this distance, they can see everything, but are not close enough to offer constant "advice". Perfect.

Complete non-issue.

That makes sense and seems like a great policy. The parents should not be close enough to influence the practice or their kid during practice. BArring those things, they can sit at a distance anywhere they want. I don't understand the possible objection to this kind of policy.

I have a friend that has family in Brazil and down there, the kids actually do go to practice on their own and the parents are not invited or allowed. At games, if a parent yells an instruction at his/her kid, the coach subs that kid out, calls the parent over and tells them both to leave. You are summarily dismissed from the team because your parent can't keep quiet. IF we did that in NTX we probably would not have enough players to field a team.

My question for silent parent is: if the policy is as Gunner describes, what is the objection to this?

well, first i would say every body sits on the perimeter of a practice. not sure where else you could sit. Second, it depends, if they ask you to sit way off or in the blue sky facility or in your car or just to drop your kids off how would you feel about that? I guess it is going to depend on how it is implemented...

Whoa SP first its an outright ban and now its sitting on the perimeter? Which one is it, you tell us. It's your post provlaiming an outright ban. Are you now backing away from that claim?

i assume you can read. the poster said that they are now sitting on the perimeter, i responded where else would people sit at any practice? btw have you asked your hero yet when he was planning on springing this on you? i know you have some bat phone or something straight to LW right?

Gunners wrote:Why do I get the feeling there are people who chastised this approach when used by the Texans who are now fully embracing it at Liverpool.

Btw, Texans stopped doing it a year ago.

Going to dip my toe in these waters carefully, may have to withdraw it quickly..

I think there can be two areas where LP can be concerned about. The first is child safety. When you have several squads practicing in close proximity to one another and you have all the parents milling around the sideline close to practice, it could be easy contact with undesirables among all the confusion during water breaks, etc.. You remove the parents from the sidelines where the kids go for water breaks, it's easy to see who should be there and who shouldn't.

2nd is over-involved parents. The reason I give any rat's behind about what goes on in practice is I like to see my DD's development. She does her homework (fast footwork) on a routine basis, but if she doesn't perform something well during practice, I take notice of it and work with her a little extra at home. I also like to see how coach explains/demonstrates things to the kids so I can have her do it the same way at home. It has nothing to do with confidence in the coach.

I agree being far enough away to not have influence over your DD, but not far enough that you can't hear what coach is coaching.

silentparent wrote:

go99 wrote:

silentparent wrote:

RunsLikeWind wrote:

Gunner9 wrote:The new policy has already been in place for a couple of weeks at BS Colony. The parents are asked to sit around the perimeter of the field and not on top of the teams. The parents of my dd's team are probably 25-30 yds away. At this distance, they can see everything, but are not close enough to offer constant "advice". Perfect.

Complete non-issue.

That makes sense and seems like a great policy. The parents should not be close enough to influence the practice or their kid during practice. BArring those things, they can sit at a distance anywhere they want. I don't understand the possible objection to this kind of policy.

I have a friend that has family in Brazil and down there, the kids actually do go to practice on their own and the parents are not invited or allowed. At games, if a parent yells an instruction at his/her kid, the coach subs that kid out, calls the parent over and tells them both to leave. You are summarily dismissed from the team because your parent can't keep quiet. IF we did that in NTX we probably would not have enough players to field a team.

My question for silent parent is: if the policy is as Gunner describes, what is the objection to this?

well, first i would say every body sits on the perimeter of a practice. not sure where else you could sit. Second, it depends, if they ask you to sit way off or in the blue sky facility or in your car or just to drop your kids off how would you feel about that? I guess it is going to depend on how it is implemented...

Whoa SP first its an outright ban and now its sitting on the perimeter? Which one is it, you tell us. It's your post provlaiming an outright ban. Are you now backing away from that claim?

i assume you can read. the poster said that they are now sitting on the perimeter, i responded where else would people sit at any practice? btw have you asked your hero yet when he was planning on springing this on you? i know you have some bat phone or something straight to LW right?

So when is the ban happening? Enlighten us all as to when LP will ban parents from watching the practices? Besides I don't need a bat phone to LW, you seem to be privy to more inside LP information to him. Decisions go you the owner to you and then trickles down to everyone else.

Parents, should be banned from all sidelines. I have seen so many parents (some fat ones ) yelling at their dd/bb because they did not do a play a certain way, when player is clearly tired . Would like to to see some of those parents get on field against top competition. Most would not even have uniform to fit them much less be competitive. But man they sure yell as if it was that easy.....jejejejejeje

go99 wrote:

silentparent wrote:

go99 wrote:

silentparent wrote:

RunsLikeWind wrote:

Gunner9 wrote:The new policy has already been in place for a couple of weeks at BS Colony. The parents are asked to sit around the perimeter of the field and not on top of the teams. The parents of my dd's team are probably 25-30 yds away. At this distance, they can see everything, but are not close enough to offer constant "advice". Perfect.

Complete non-issue.

That makes sense and seems like a great policy. The parents should not be close enough to influence the practice or their kid during practice. BArring those things, they can sit at a distance anywhere they want. I don't understand the possible objection to this kind of policy.

I have a friend that has family in Brazil and down there, the kids actually do go to practice on their own and the parents are not invited or allowed. At games, if a parent yells an instruction at his/her kid, the coach subs that kid out, calls the parent over and tells them both to leave. You are summarily dismissed from the team because your parent can't keep quiet. IF we did that in NTX we probably would not have enough players to field a team.

My question for silent parent is: if the policy is as Gunner describes, what is the objection to this?

well, first i would say every body sits on the perimeter of a practice. not sure where else you could sit. Second, it depends, if they ask you to sit way off or in the blue sky facility or in your car or just to drop your kids off how would you feel about that? I guess it is going to depend on how it is implemented...

Whoa SP first its an outright ban and now its sitting on the perimeter? Which one is it, you tell us. It's your post provlaiming an outright ban. Are you now backing away from that claim?

i assume you can read. the poster said that they are now sitting on the perimeter, i responded where else would people sit at any practice? btw have you asked your hero yet when he was planning on springing this on you? i know you have some bat phone or something straight to LW right?

So when is the ban happening? Enlighten us all as to when LP will ban parents from watching the practices? Besides I don't need a bat phone to LW, you seem to be privy to more inside LP information to him. Decisions go you the owner to you and then trickles down to everyone else.

lol, don't feel bad that LW didnt tell you first, i know that hurts your feelings....

I am absolutely crushed that in our daily, deep, heartfelt conversations he failed to mention that. Maybe it was just the accent and I didn't understand it

go99 wrote:I am absolutely crushed that in our daily, deep, heartfelt conversations he failed to mention that. Maybe it was just the accent and I didn't understand it

that was a good one...

the7wolf wrote:Actually, they are putting an area where parents can sit and watch to counter those occasional parents to like to park their chair on the sideline 5-10 yards from the practice or behind the goal.

Perhaps silentparent would like to sit in on his kids school lessons, sit 10 feet from them in tests, sit in the rear seat during drivers ed and sit at the next table on their dates. Heaven forbid parents not be allowed to coach their own kids and distract them during practices.

Out of all the responses and meandering through the thread, this is by far the simplest and best reply. Agree 1000x.

How much does entitlement run you these days?

bigtex75081 wrote:I imagine how this is presented to the families will drive the perception. I don't mind sitting away from the field for practices or games. (I prefer to do that.) I'm not a fan of being told what I can and can't do though.

If Liverpool builds out a nicely appointed area with seating and shelter from the elements, I suspect they won't have to say a word to anyone as the parents will naturally start to congregate there instead.

I've requested a driving range and a fully-stocked bar.

Gunner9 wrote:

bigtex75081 wrote:I imagine how this is presented to the families will drive the perception. I don't mind sitting away from the field for practices or games. (I prefer to do that.) I'm not a fan of being told what I can and can't do though.

If Liverpool builds out a nicely appointed area with seating and shelter from the elements, I suspect they won't have to say a word to anyone as the parents will naturally start to congregate there instead.

I've requested a driving range and a fully-stocked bar.

The dried up part of the lake would make for a nice putting green!

The Real Decoy wrote:

the7wolf wrote:Actually, they are putting an area where parents can sit and watch to counter those occasional parents to like to park their chair on the sideline 5-10 yards from the practice or behind the goal.

Perhaps silentparent would like to sit in on his kids school lessons, sit 10 feet from them in tests, sit in the rear seat during drivers ed and sit at the next table on their dates. Heaven forbid parents not be allowed to coach their own kids and distract them during practices.

Out of all the responses and meandering through the thread, this is by far the simplest and best reply. Agree 1000x.

How much does entitlement run you these days?

frankly its gibberish, asking to watch a practice from an organization you pay thousands of dollars to is hardly "entitlement".....