Parents to be banned from Liverpool practices

The Real Decoy wrote:

the7wolf wrote:Actually, they are putting an area where parents can sit and watch to counter those occasional parents to like to park their chair on the sideline 5-10 yards from the practice or behind the goal.

Perhaps silentparent would like to sit in on his kids school lessons, sit 10 feet from them in tests, sit in the rear seat during drivers ed and sit at the next table on their dates. Heaven forbid parents not be allowed to coach their own kids and distract them during practices.

Out of all the responses and meandering through the thread, this is by far the simplest and best reply. Agree 1000x.

How much does entitlement run you these days?

frankly its gibberish, asking to watch a practice from an organization you pay thousands of dollars to is hardly "entitlement".....

silentparent wrote:

go99 wrote:

silentparent wrote:

RunsLikeWind wrote:

Gunner9 wrote:The new policy has already been in place for a couple of weeks at BS Colony. The parents are asked to sit around the perimeter of the field and not on top of the teams. The parents of my dd's team are probably 25-30 yds away. At this distance, they can see everything, but are not close enough to offer constant "advice". Perfect.

Complete non-issue.

That makes sense and seems like a great policy. The parents should not be close enough to influence the practice or their kid during practice. BArring those things, they can sit at a distance anywhere they want. I don't understand the possible objection to this kind of policy.

I have a friend that has family in Brazil and down there, the kids actually do go to practice on their own and the parents are not invited or allowed. At games, if a parent yells an instruction at his/her kid, the coach subs that kid out, calls the parent over and tells them both to leave. You are summarily dismissed from the team because your parent can't keep quiet. IF we did that in NTX we probably would not have enough players to field a team.

My question for silent parent is: if the policy is as Gunner describes, what is the objection to this?

well, first i would say every body sits on the perimeter of a practice. not sure where else you could sit. Second, it depends, if they ask you to sit way off or in the blue sky facility or in your car or just to drop your kids off how would you feel about that? I guess it is going to depend on how it is implemented...

Whoa SP first its an outright ban and now its sitting on the perimeter? Which one is it, you tell us. It's your post provlaiming an outright ban. Are you now backing away from that claim?

i assume you can read. the poster said that they are now sitting on the perimeter, i responded where else would people sit at any practice? btw have you asked your hero yet when he was planning on springing this on you? i know you have some bat phone or something straight to LW right?

Perhaps the big red posts recently put in at BS might have given us LP folks a clue?

silentparent wrote:

The Real Decoy wrote:

the7wolf wrote:Actually, they are putting an area where parents can sit and watch to counter those occasional parents to like to park their chair on the sideline 5-10 yards from the practice or behind the goal.

Perhaps silentparent would like to sit in on his kids school lessons, sit 10 feet from them in tests, sit in the rear seat during drivers ed and sit at the next table on their dates. Heaven forbid parents not be allowed to coach their own kids and distract them during practices.

Out of all the responses and meandering through the thread, this is by far the simplest and best reply. Agree 1000x.

How much does entitlement run you these days?

frankly its gibberish, asking to watch a practice from an organization you pay thousands of dollars to is hardly "entitlement".....

Again, who said you can't watch the practice? Why do you insist on being a straw man and creating an argument about a situation that doesn't exist?

silentparent wrote:

The Real Decoy wrote:

the7wolf wrote:Actually, they are putting an area where parents can sit and watch to counter those occasional parents to like to park their chair on the sideline 5-10 yards from the practice or behind the goal.

Perhaps silentparent would like to sit in on his kids school lessons, sit 10 feet from them in tests, sit in the rear seat during drivers ed and sit at the next table on their dates. Heaven forbid parents not be allowed to coach their own kids and distract them during practices.

Out of all the responses and meandering through the thread, this is by far the simplest and best reply. Agree 1000x.

How much does entitlement run you these days?

frankly its gibberish, asking to watch a practice from an organization you pay thousands of dollars to is hardly "entitlement".....

The problem is, SP, the club is growing so significantly, boundaries have to be made. There are multiple teams practicing at BS every night. Don't be jealous now on LPs success!

Master Bates wrote:

silentparent wrote:

go99 wrote:

silentparent wrote:

RunsLikeWind wrote:

Gunner9 wrote:The new policy has already been in place for a couple of weeks at BS Colony. The parents are asked to sit around the perimeter of the field and not on top of the teams. The parents of my dd's team are probably 25-30 yds away. At this distance, they can see everything, but are not close enough to offer constant "advice". Perfect.

Complete non-issue.

That makes sense and seems like a great policy. The parents should not be close enough to influence the practice or their kid during practice. BArring those things, they can sit at a distance anywhere they want. I don't understand the possible objection to this kind of policy.

I have a friend that has family in Brazil and down there, the kids actually do go to practice on their own and the parents are not invited or allowed. At games, if a parent yells an instruction at his/her kid, the coach subs that kid out, calls the parent over and tells them both to leave. You are summarily dismissed from the team because your parent can't keep quiet. IF we did that in NTX we probably would not have enough players to field a team.

My question for silent parent is: if the policy is as Gunner describes, what is the objection to this?

well, first i would say every body sits on the perimeter of a practice. not sure where else you could sit. Second, it depends, if they ask you to sit way off or in the blue sky facility or in your car or just to drop your kids off how would you feel about that? I guess it is going to depend on how it is implemented...

Whoa SP first its an outright ban and now its sitting on the perimeter? Which one is it, you tell us. It's your post provlaiming an outright ban. Are you now backing away from that claim?

i assume you can read. the poster said that they are now sitting on the perimeter, i responded where else would people sit at any practice? btw have you asked your hero yet when he was planning on springing this on you? i know you have some bat phone or something straight to LW right?

Perhaps the big red posts recently put in at BS might have given us LP folks a clue?

Our team would actually have to move up closer to get to where the post are so that can't be the new banishment. Any closer than those and you would be on the field

Our coach simply requires the parents to wear gags at practice.

another ridiculous post that is irrelevant, you are on a roll. no one wants to do that, merely observe their children in a respectful way, hardly a burden....[/quote]

As I tell my students unless you have been everywhere all the time you cannot say "no one" or "everyone" without showing your lack of intelligence.

As a parent who drives 2.5 hours to practice, I have observed all kinds of rude parents who interrupt practice by talking to their child. It not only upsets their child but annoys the other players. How do I know this? My daughter thanks me for sitting away from the field in a chair or in the car while grading papers or reading. I have absolutely no problem with not watching her practice--if I didn't trust the coach enough to not watch, she wouldn't be on the team.

As a parent who drives 2.5 hours to practice

silentparent wrote:From what I hear, apparently Liverpool wants to follow the Texans and ban parents from watching practices. Got to wonder what they have to hide by not allowing parents to hold coaches accountable and watch their own children practice....

This thread caught my eye. As I've scanned through it, I can't tell what the plan by Liverpool actually is. Are they really BANNING parents from the practices as SP claims? To me, this would mean no entrance into the practice facility by the parents. Otherwise, I assume they are RESTRICTING where the parents can be during the practices (i.e. not right next to the fields). This is standard procedure at many clubs for good reason. At TFC, for example, there are posts and ropes that state only coaches and players are to allowed beyond those points. Everyone can still see their kids, but they aren't right next to them. What's the big deal if Liverpool is doing that?

Exactly right, JS. There isn't anything more to it than that. It also maximizes the practice area without parents crossing the fields or posting up in the middle.

A club that my DD played for switched facilities recently.

The first place was a large open field. There wasn't really anything to separate the parents from the kids so, naturally, the families for the individual teams clustered together near where their kids were practicing.

The second place was a smaller facility and it was entirely surrounded by a 3ft fence. The fence wasn't imposing or anything. It wasn’t even a new addition. It had clearly been there for years. The fence wasn’t even intended for the club. It was built for and used by a neighboring business. To bypass the fence/barrier was extremely easy, just a quick step over, but for some reason parents rarely ventured onto the practice area of the new fields. For the most part, the coaches were the only adults that ventured past the fence during practices. None of the parents were ever told to stay outside the fence but there was a nice area to sit that was sheltered from the sun and the wind.

I was surprised at how every parent seemed to immediately understand the separation of spaces with this new facility. It was the same parents but in two different locations with different physical barriers. There wasn't an impenetrable force field. There were no bouncers with guest lists. There were no harsh signs telling parents to buzz off. No new rules were announced.

That 3ft high fence taught me a simple lesson. Parents, a lot of times, are just trying to figure out their roles for their kids and what they should and shouldn't do. If you want parents to respect the space, just put a simple boundary for them to see. You don’t have to say a word. The visual cue will be enough.

If you don't want to invest in something like a border, expect the families to sit close by, like they did on the first field I described above. Parents want to care for their kids so if you don't give them guidelines, they're going to stay close to help however they can.

You guys are all very humorous! I really enjoy this quality entertainment. I think it would stated several months ago what a great reality show this would make on TV. Maybe it could air just after Bridezillas.

If the parents are the sheep being lead to the slaughter what does it matter? Those that are LP parents obviously don't mind or they would no longer be LP parents. Those that mind would find a new practice facility. Just saying...

Time will tell if this is a good plan or if they recant like the Texans as previously stated.

This like watching an old Batman TV show... ZING!! ZAP!! POW!!! KAPOWY!! HOLY BAT-BEATDOWN!!

I doubt there's a devious, ulterior motoves involved and probably a number of other things... To me, if there is too much parent interaction, then you take it up with that parent(s)... They could be just trying to confine parents to one area to minimize traffic and so they aren't scattered across the the complex. I hate to say it, but some people are missing a sensor, clueless and/or just butt-heads.

How many times have you seen a parent from another age group walk across your kid's practice, or flat out just be in the way? Hell, during a match, folks put their chairs right on the sideline and girls in play are jumping over their feet! If 100 people walk the same path across a semi-wet field, it turns that trail in a mud trail, which kills the grass.

Conversely,
As long as I could stay on site and ideally see and hear the practice, I would be fine. A lot of folks have a significant commute to practice and having to leave to nowhere is a pain. For the younger ages, I think it's important to hear your kids' coaching feedback for instructional purposes, and yes, sometimes, knowing an adult is listening tempers the coach's tone.

A novel idea might be to ask "why" the change. HOLY BAT-POOP, BATMAN!!

Reader Note: if you never saw a old batman episode, I can't help you, and we have nothing in common.

03soccermomtx wrote:You guys are all very humorous! I really enjoy this quality entertainment. I think it would stated several months ago what a great reality show this would make on TV. Maybe it could air just after Bridezillas.

If the parents are the sheep being lead to the slaughter what does it matter? Those that are LP parents obviously don't mind or they would no longer be LP parents. Those that mind would find a new practice facility. Just saying...

Time will tell if this is a good plan or if they recant like the Texans as previously stated.

That Bridezillas show is funny

Who are the coaches going to get to chase down balls and move the goals around. I say heck ya. Sign me up. In fact, make practices longer so I can get more done running errands.