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Can somebody rank the top 00 ECNL teams for me. The DFW teams.

axlefoley wrote:Can somebody rank the top 00 ECNL teams for me.  The DFW teams.

 

I don't even think they have played a match together. To early to compare, but I will give solar for the early lead.

oh yeah, i forgot this is the first season for them. So most teams are new or did they keep their LH teams from last year?

Here is my preseason rankings, since you asked. I think that Solar strengthened their team by the additions. Feet gained ground by additions. Sting took the strongest of the multiple top teams. Texan's are probably just as strong as they were in U13.

1) Solar
2) D'Feeters
3) Sting
4) Texans
5) FC Dallas

Noob wrote:Here is my preseason rankings, since you asked.  I think that Solar strengthened their team by the additions.  Feet gained ground by additions.  Sting took the strongest of the multiple top teams.  Texan's are probably just as strong as they were in U13.

1) Solar
2) D'Feeters
3) Sting
4) Texans
5) FC Dallas

I'm not 100% sure he got the right order, but I agree his has the top 5 teams right!

Drew me out on this one.

1) Texans
2) Solar
3) Rush
4) Sting
5) Deefeters
6) Lonestar
7) FC Dallas
TSC
9) Challenge
10) Albion

There will be some great games this season.

1) Texans
2) Dfeeters
3) Lonestars
4) Rush
5) FCD
6) Solar
7) TSC
8) Albion
9) Challenge
10) Sting

We have played several of these teams over the past 12 months. From what we have seen, I expect Solar to be very strong. We have played 3 of the better Sting teams. Once these teams combine, they should also be a strong team. We have played D'feeters, too, and found them to be a handful. Have they added players? As for STX, this is what I think you can expect.

1. Rush - has been the top Houston team for past several years. Recently added 4 top players from other clubs.

2. Lonestars - been playing up. Physical and athletic

3. Albion - Deep team that competes every time they play. Lost a top player to Rush that will be missed.

4. Challenge - Was already the 3rd team in Houston. Lost 5 players from last year's team, including 3 starters that all went to Rush. This team could be in real trouble.

Of course, predictions mean nothing! Looking forward to seeing all of you at fields this upcoming year.

Most of the clubs have posted rosters on the ECNL website. To those in the know, how many of the girls on the Solar U14 ECNL roster are from the LP team? Also, which of last years' Sting teams have the most players on the Sting ECNL U14 ECNL team? Medina? Reazie?

stx guest wrote:Most of the clubs have posted rosters on the ECNL website.  To those in the know, how many of the girls on the Solar U14 ECNL roster are from the LP team?  Also, which of last years' Sting teams have the most players on the Sting ECNL U14 ECNL team?  Medina?  Reazie?

Solar: 6 from LP Elite, 1 from Sting R, 1 from Solar Can D2

Sting:  7 from Sting M, 6 from Sting R, 4 from Sting West, 1 from Sting Harr, 1 from Sting North Garret D2, 1 from Texans, 1 from New Mexico

Texans: 1 from Solar Red, 1 from Sting M, 1 from Sting West, 1 from Defeeters, 1 from LP Elite, 1 from Solar Can D2, 1 from El Paso

Feet:  1 from LP Elite, 1 from Sting R, 1 from Texans, there may be a few others but not from any of the aforementioned clubs

FCD:  at least....1 from Sting West, 2 from Sting M,  1 from Defeeters, 1 from Texans Red D2, 1 from Solar Can D2, 1 from Sting North Garret D2,

Gosh, and here the board thought there was no major impact to 00 teams due to ECNL!  

so that's 8 from LP (elite?). hope some of solar's are dualed.

keep22 wrote:so that's 8 from LP (elite?).  hope some of solar's are dualed.

Yes, LP Elite.

5 of the 6 were planning to stay/play with LP Elite before the team moved to Solar ( 1 had already left for Solar ECNL). Thus I would imagine that they are still going to dual roster w/ Solar Pulp (was LP Elite) to secure the D1 bye moving from LP to Solar (70% rule) and because you can only dress 18 for ECNL while Solar ECNL's roster is currently at 22.

It is my understanding that a large number of Pulp's team will be dual rostered this coming year. From what I have heard, his team will be something of a farm team for the ECNL team.

So, after all this movement, which teams project to come out the strongest?

OK, so I am just looking at the North Texas teams and right now we can't rely solely on team's records from this past season - since team players have shifted around from the LH team to the ECNL team.

I would agree that Solar strengthened its position with the new additions, but we will have to see how well they jell together - my thinking is that they will be a top contender.

The Texans certainly have had strong showings, but I think that the girls they pulled in from other teams could help solidify their chances at upper rankings.

Feet had a good strong team, but we will have to see how their additions stack up against the Texans and Solar. Sometimes having a well oiled team with little change is better than bringing in a lot of power house players from other teams.

FC Dallas is a wild card at this point. They had some strength but I am not sure they brought in enough to boost them up right now.

Sting robbed its teams to put together it's team. It will be interesting to see how the power players from its sister teams will come together (and how those sister teams fare when the LH season starts).

Right now my ranking is as follows for NTX teams:

1.  Solar
2.  Texans
3.  Feet
4.  Sting
5.  FC Dallas

It will be interesting to see how the first part of the season goes for our teams.

from an outside view:

Seems to me that all the clubs except Feet played the loyality card with their paying customers and parents knew or were told this.

Solar - will be interesting to see who gets the minutes. the loyal players or the new step children from lp...either way the sidelines(opposite the beaches that is) should be fun fun fun...pass the popcorn!

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1. Solar Red aka "Big Red":  Probably the most talented group, before adding CPLP'S bunch. This year, they're the dream team on paper, the team to beat, AND they still have the most Beloved Sideline in the league. The burning questions everyone wants to know: Can their diplomatic coach and the BS keep harmony on the team and in the club? Will they welcome and incorporate the LP personnel or will there will another intra-club '00 rivalry? Who can run faster, jump higher, Solca or CP?

2.  Dfeeters:  The team from 'the little club that could' came on strong at the end of last year, but they lacked the athleticism to defeat their arch nemesis, Big Red, as well as finish out games it could/should have won. They definitely added some athletic firepower to its roster this off-season, but can the coach incorporate the new players onto a team that has been together so long? Can he keep the old guard happy?  Can they defeat the evil super power, Big Red? There have been no sightings of the team this summer, so will they be ready for the start of the season?

3. Sting:  Picked-up a very good out-of-state player, plus consolidated the best players from its stable of teams. Last Spring, in Sting complexes across DFW, there was a hushed bustle of Sting Nation's best players competing for the top spots; in the early summer came the screams of "Politics!",  moans of "what do you mean 'Not my Kid'" the occasional "they picked who?!", and finally the exasperated, "what the hell is dual-rostering?". The burning questions: Did they indeed pick the best players from all of those teams? Can the coach put the talent together in time for the start of the season? Will the coaches passed over for the ECNL job revolt?

4.  Texans:  Still going to be the same physical, tenacious team, but they faded at the end of last season, and as a result, faded in this ranking as well. Picked up a key player from the Big Red, as well as some understated, but very good players from others.  Coach PR really considered putting this team 2nd or 3rd, but was intrigued by the Feet and Sting additions instead. Key Questions: How will they align the Dallas International Cup brackets next year so they won't have to play Big Red in Semi's? Will the club ever find descent fields to train and play on?

5. FCD:  Team has potential and looked pretty good at the end of the last season, but is already recovering from key injuries and the season hasn't started yet. Sadly, FCD did not open its facilities for review by Coach PR, so his scouting report on this team is somewhat less than definitive.  The good news is that FCD is ranked higher than STX and OK teams. Key question:  Can the "new" coach establish himself as the other four have? Will they play in the Dallas International Cup next year?

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keep22 wrote:from an outside view:

Seems to me that all the clubs except Feet played the loyality card with their paying customers and parents knew or were told this.

Solar -  will be interesting to see who gets the minutes.  the loyal players or the new  step children from lp...either way the sidelines(opposite the beaches that is) should be fun fun fun...pass the popcorn!

I don't quite understand the highlighted portion above. By loyalty card are you suggesting or saying that clubs kept players from last year's team just because they were on last year's team (e.g. paying customers) and Feet kept the least amount of players from last year's team?

I "think" Feet may have kept the 2nd most amount of players from last year's team thus my question. Does that mean they played the loyalty card at Feet?

In order from least turnover to most turnover from LHGCL to ECNL
1. FCD
2. Feet
3. Solar
4. Texans
5. Sting

In order from most returning starters to least returning starters from LHGCL to ECNL. Returning starter doesn't guarantee you anything though. It makes sense that because the ECNL teams finished 1,3,4,5,6 in LHGCL that they would maintain most of their starters.
1. Solar (all returning)
2. FCD (all returning)
3. Feet (1 to Texans)
4. Texans (1 to Sting)
5. Sting M (1 to Texans, 1 - FCD, 2 - LHGCL)

I'm not defending Feet by any means but they brought their team from solar in tact. If you look at the team since then there are 7 are no longer with them. They lost more than 1 starter and not because they decided to go to another ECNL or LH team either.

I'm was not talking about team starter loyalty. I'm talking club loyalty. Where did most of rosters come from outside the club or within? Why do you think non-ecnl club players leave their teams for ecnl-clubs the year before their first ECNL season....hmm maybe I'm wrong...not the first nor last...I could provide 3 different ecnl coaches as reference but I wont.

keep22 wrote:I'm not defending Feet by any means but they brought their team from solar in tact.  If you look at the team since then there are 7 are no longer with them.  They lost more than 1 starter and not because they decided to go to another ECNL or LH team either.

I'm was not talking about team starter loyalty. I'm talking club loyalty.  Where did most of rosters come from outside the club or within?  Why do you think non-ecnl club players leave their teams for ecnl-clubs the year before their first ECNL season....hmm maybe I'm wrong...not the first nor last...I could provide 3 different ecnl coaches as reference but I wont.

I am not attacking Feet either, I'm genuinely trying to understand your logic. I will trust you when you say Feet lost/cut (for various reasons) 7 players from last years team which leaves them with 11 returning players. The team started the u13 LHGCL season with 18 and ended the season with 16. At least 2 of 16 are no longer at Feet so that leaves 14 at max by my count. You are closer to Feet and say there are 11 returning players max. I will buy it because I can't refute it.

So in numerical order of most to least returning players from last year's LHGCL team using your count for Feet:

1. FCD (someone else should confirm but I think they kept everyone)
2. Solar (13 returning, 9 new)
3. Texans (12 returning, 7 new)
4. Feet (11 returning, 7 new)
5. Sting (7 returning, 14 new)

Using the 'loyalty card' that you referenced and based solely on how little the variance is between Solar, Texans, Feet returning numbers you'd have to either say that they all played the 'loyalty card' or none of them played the 'loyalty card'

For the record I think the teams chose the best players available to them period.

keep22 wrote:I'm not defending Feet by any means but they brought their team from solar in tact.  If you look at the team since then there are 7 are no longer with them.  They lost more than 1 starter and not because they decided to go to another ECNL or LH team either.

I'm was not talking about team starter loyalty. I'm talking club loyalty.  Where did most of rosters come from outside the club or within? {Inside the club...including Feet. See the numbers in the reply just above this one} Why do you think non-ecnl club players leave their teams for ecnl-clubs the year before their first ECNL season....hmm maybe I'm wrong...not the first nor last... {I think those players leave non-ECNL clubs for pre-ECNL teams in an attempt to get a head start on making the ECNL team. I also think Feet left Solar so that those girls could stay mostly intact as an ECNL team} I could provide 3 different ecnl coaches as reference but I wont. { I don't understand the previous point thus I have no counterpoint nor validation of your point}

See my answers embedded above in Red

I think I did said feet came with their solar team in tact initally then lost 7 but the new 7 they got was not from the 00 sister team as the others picked from within the their clubs. maybe I should have said "seemed less loyal" than the others.

so I guess we both agree...

the 3 references you cannot counterpoint nor validate unless you were on the phone with us or you are 1 of the 3. Each pointed out clearly to me that it's within club first and then fill in the blanks...

so if any DD didn't make an ECNL team this season, hopefully the landed on a sister team to better their chances or get a head start for next year...there's always dual rostering and discovery players...yeah good luck...