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Post by keep22 14/08/13, 09:55 am

I think I did said feet came with their solar team in tact initally then lost 7 but the new 7 they got was not from the 00 sister team as the others picked from within the their clubs. maybe I should have said "seemed less loyal" than the others.

so I guess we both agree...

the 3 references you cannot counterpoint nor validate unless you were on the phone with us or you are 1 of the 3. Each pointed out clearly to me that it's within club first and then fill in the blanks...

so if any DD didn't make an ECNL team this season, hopefully the landed on a sister team to better their chances or get a head start for next year...there's always dual rostering and discovery players...yeah good luck...


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Post by beast 14/08/13, 10:21 am

I do believe Feet picked up one from their "sister" team in the spring and another this summer. So yes they did pick some from within their club.
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Post by keep22 14/08/13, 10:33 am

unanimous:cheers: 

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Post by SweepFeet 14/08/13, 10:38 am

keep22 wrote:unanimous:cheers: 
?????
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Post by SweepFeet 14/08/13, 10:40 am

keep22 wrote:I think I did said feet came with their solar team in tact initally then lost 7 but the new 7 they got was not from the 00 sister team as the others picked from within the their clubs.  maybe I should have said "seemed less loyal" than the others.

so I guess we both agree...

the 3 references you cannot counterpoint nor validate unless you were on the phone with us or you are 1 of the 3.  Each pointed out clearly to me that it's within club first and then fill in the blanks...

so if any DD didn't make an ECNL team this season, hopefully the landed on a sister team to better their chances or get a head start for next year...there's always dual rostering and discovery players...yeah good luck...

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Feet lost 7 players and picked up 2 from their sister club. Here's a more accurate breakdown.
Feet: 1 from LP Elite, 1 from Sting R, 1 from Texans, 1 from Solar, 1 from FCD, 2 from Feet
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Post by keep22 14/08/13, 10:45 am

unanimous...just agre.

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Post by keep22 14/08/13, 10:45 am

ed with yall

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Post by outonthelimb 14/08/13, 10:49 am

keep22 wrote:I think I did said feet came with their solar team in tact initally then lost 7 but the new 7 they got was not from the 00 sister team as the others picked from within the their clubs.  maybe I should have said "seemed less loyal" than the others.

so I guess we both agree...

the 3 references you cannot counterpoint nor validate unless you were on the phone with us or you are 1 of the 3.  Each pointed out clearly to me that it's within club first and then fill in the blanks...

so if any DD didn't make an ECNL team this season, hopefully the landed on a sister team to better their chances or get a head start for next year...there's always dual rostering and discovery players...yeah good luck...

scratch  In order from most to least number of ECNL players chosen from within the club but not on the main D1 roster.

1. Sting (12 - this makes sense as they had 3 other D1 teams to pull from)
2. FCD (slotting them here because I don't know their roster make up inside/out but they have 26 on the ECNL roster and they didn't pull very much from any other LHGCL D1 team so they must have gotten players from FCD Premiere D2, FCD Blue D2 or FCD East D2)
3. Feet (2 - so says "Beast"....I would have guessed 0 seeing as though the other Feet team was D3 last year)
4. Solar (1 - player from Solar Can D2)
5. Texans (0 - no players from other Texans teams)


Conclusion: Based solely on the numbers above....I think that unless you were talking to Sting or FCD coaches then somebody was misleading the heck out of you as they sure as heck didn't select from within club sister teams despite what they told you.

Except at Sting, IMO you'd have a better chance at making the ECNL team if you are a starter on another clubs LHGCL D1 team than if you are on a sister team.
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Post by outonthelimb 14/08/13, 10:53 am

SweepFeet wrote:
keep22 wrote:I think I did said feet came with their solar team in tact initally then lost 7 but the new 7 they got was not from the 00 sister team as the others picked from within the their clubs.  maybe I should have said "seemed less loyal" than the others.

so I guess we both agree...

the 3 references you cannot counterpoint nor validate unless you were on the phone with us or you are 1 of the 3.  Each pointed out clearly to me that it's within club first and then fill in the blanks...

so if any DD didn't make an ECNL team this season, hopefully the landed on a sister team to better their chances or get a head start for next year...there's always dual rostering and discovery players...yeah good luck...

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Feet lost 7 players and picked up 2 from their sister club. Here's a more accurate breakdown.
Feet:  1 from LP Elite, 1 from Sting R, 1 from Texans, 1 from Solar, 1 from FCD, 2 from Feet
Thanks. Which teams did "1 from Solar, 1 from FCD" come from?

If someone would provide the breakdown for FCD then all of the fog would be lifted!
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Post by SweepFeet 14/08/13, 11:01 am

outonthelimb wrote:
SweepFeet wrote:
keep22 wrote:I think I did said feet came with their solar team in tact initally then lost 7 but the new 7 they got was not from the 00 sister team as the others picked from within the their clubs.  maybe I should have said "seemed less loyal" than the others.

so I guess we both agree...

the 3 references you cannot counterpoint nor validate unless you were on the phone with us or you are 1 of the 3.  Each pointed out clearly to me that it's within club first and then fill in the blanks...

so if any DD didn't make an ECNL team this season, hopefully the landed on a sister team to better their chances or get a head start for next year...there's always dual rostering and discovery players...yeah good luck...

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Feet lost 7 players and picked up 2 from their sister club. Here's a more accurate breakdown.
Feet:  1 from LP Elite, 1 from Sting R, 1 from Texans, 1 from Solar, 1 from FCD, 2 from Feet
Thanks.  Which teams did "1 from Solar, 1 from FCD" come from?

If someone would provide the breakdown for FCD then all of the fog would be lifted!
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Both players from clubs' top teams - Solar Red, FCD "Stinghorns"
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Post by Packrabbit 14/08/13, 06:15 pm

keep22 wrote:I think I did said feet came with their solar team in tact initally then lost 7 but the new 7 they got was not from the 00 sister team as the others picked from within the their clubs.  maybe I should have said "seemed less loyal" than the others.

so I guess we both agree...

the 3 references you cannot counterpoint nor validate unless you were on the phone with us or you are 1 of the 3.  Each pointed out clearly to me that it's within club first and then fill in the blanks...

so if any DD didn't make an ECNL team this season, hopefully the landed on a sister team to better their chances or get a head start for next year...there's always dual rostering and discovery players...yeah good luck...

I am lost... I can't tell if you are knocking them or complimenting them... I don't care one way or the other, but just trying to comprehend... using smaller words may help...

so the feet are "less loyal" toward their players, or just more honest about roster decisions than the other clubs? Or were the feet coaches (or other clubs' coaches?) not forthright with their existing, pre-ecnl team?

The 3 coaches' references pertained to what exactly? That the kids within their club get first priority over kids coming in from elsewhere? So, those three coaches would not take a top player onto their roster, instead of sitting a lesser loyal player on the bench?

I DO KNOW that the 1st year of ECNL is extremely stressful for all involved...
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Post by Guest 14/08/13, 06:57 pm

Why would families and DD agree to move from Solar to Feet to begin with? Must of thought it would be a better chance to develop and grow with the team they had been with but found out otherwise. Besides one Texan going to Feet, where did the others go?

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Post by keep22 14/08/13, 07:04 pm

it's both knocking and complimenting depends where you sit. knocking because they may overlook some players that clearly should be on the team simply to avoid shaking things up too much...plus the bills need to be paid and sometimes the top player don't pay the bills...Complimenting because they want to help the DD non starters to become better...

loyal is really not the correct word. I like what you said "more honest" about roster decisions.

yes the 3 would take a "top" player sure but priority is "alway$" the club...they can't all be the "top" players.

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Post by Guest 14/08/13, 08:11 pm

keep22 wrote:it's both knocking and complimenting depends where you sit.  knocking because they may overlook some players that clearly should be on the team simply to avoid shaking things up too much...plus the bills need to be paid and sometimes the top player don't pay the bills...Complimenting because they want to help the DD non starters to become better...

loyal is really not the correct word.  I like what you said "more honest" about roster decisions.

yes the 3 would take a "top" player sure but priority is "alway$" the club...they can't all be the "top" players.
I'm having a difficult time reconciling your story to what  I have seen in NTX soccer.  From where I sit coaches take the best talent they can get. The higher the level of the team the more absolute that becomes. Other factors may be considered when evaluating equal or minor upgrade type players, but you are suggesting 3 ECNL coaches told you they weight club loyalty as  a primary factor and pass on players who are "clearly" upgrades as a result...which coaches and which clubs are these?


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Post by outonthelimb 14/08/13, 08:16 pm

Silva wrote:Why would families and DD agree to move from Solar to Feet to begin with? Must of thought it would be a better chance to develop and grow with the team they had been with but found out otherwise.  Besides one Texan going to Feet, where did the others go?
1 to Feet ECNL, 1 to Sting ECNL, 4 to LHGCL teams
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Post by Packrabbit 14/08/13, 08:30 pm

keep22 wrote:it's both knocking and complimenting depends where you sit.  knocking because they may overlook some players that clearly should be on the team simply to avoid shaking things up too much...plus the bills need to be paid and sometimes the top player don't pay the bills...Complimenting because they want to help the DD non starters to become better...

loyal is really not the correct word.  I like what you said "more honest" about roster decisions.

yes the 3 would take a "top" player sure but priority is "alway$" the club...they can't all be the "top" players.
??? Uh? Should or shouldn't?

But I am following you of the other stuff- thanks for your patience.
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Post by Multivitamin 14/08/13, 09:43 pm

Releasing of information from coaches/team managers to parents is starting and now the worries and concerns are coming. Last minute changes and last minute pick ups strengthening teams you felt we're not going to be a factor have some scratching their heads. ECNL roster only needed to to have turned in a minimum of 14 by 8-1-13. Now some ECNL teams will slowly be adding key players that fill the roles of the team. Per ECNL rules you can add to roster a player until date 5-1-14. ECNL coaches are still looking because they know the depth needs to be there for injuries sake.
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Post by outonthelimb 14/08/13, 10:09 pm

Multivitamin wrote:Releasing of information from coaches/team managers to parents is starting and now the worries and concerns are coming. Last minute changes and last minute pick ups strengthening teams you felt we're not going to be a factor have some scratching their heads. ECNL roster only needed to to have turned in a minimum of 14 by 8-1-13. Now some ECNL teams will slowly be adding key players that fill the roles of the team. Per ECNL rules you can add to roster a player until date 5-1-14. ECNL coaches are still looking because they know the depth needs to be there for injuries sake.
 That depth / injury fill-in will most likely come from the '01 ranks.  At least that is how Solar, Feet and Texans handled it last year.
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Post by Multivitamin 02/11/13, 03:59 pm

Looks like many of us were wrong. A Solar two win weekend and Dfeeters win could shift a new #1 team. Looking back through I don't see any predictions of current standings playing out.
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Post by Tiger 02/11/13, 06:06 pm

Multi, so did Solar win today? The score hase't been updated.

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Post by skulker 02/11/13, 07:48 pm

Solar did not play today. Albion cancelled on Thursday night....not sure why. The other Houston teams all playing this weekend. Are Albion fields in a swamp?
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