Rise and Fall of Texans 05 Moreno

ruready2rumble wrote:Interesting comments by Coach&Ref and Maggiemae...obviously you're not close enough to the situation...you think its a coincidence that recently half the dd's on the '06 team left and now the entire '05 team both coached by Moreno.  

I have no dog in this fight. I don't know about the situation at all. I was just commenting on my dealings with Becca as she relates to coaching as well as interpersonal skills when it came to me and my daughter.

As a coach, I can tell you that I think her practices are pretty good from what I see almost daily from being at Ross.

As a person, she has been more patient with people than a LOT of coaches around. Whenever I have spoken to her about her 05s/06s, she has always beamed with pride about them and mentioned how happy she was at their improvement.

Like I said, I don't know anything about the situation, but can only talk about my experiences with her as it relates to me, my daughter and what I have wittnessed each time I see her with those other teams.

Gunners wrote:The coaching void within the Texans Academy system is the problem. Becca might be a nice person and an ok coach but she is an unproven commodity and parents know it. Without the likes of a David May type figure to help organize the top Texans academy teams, I would expect these types of things to continue.

Furthermore, the fact that Hassan is willing to allow this team to leave (if not outright force it to move and btw this is the real story here) proves that the club isn't all that interested in a quality academy team...just quantity.

Back up 3 years (Fall 2010) to when LW left the Texans, and went to LP that was a big loss for the Texans and the drain has had a curious slurping sound ever since...

Gunners wrote:
Furthermore, the fact that Hassan is willing to allow this team to leave (if not outright force it to move and btw this is the real story here) proves that the club isn't all that interested in a quality academy team...just quantity.

Sounds interesting - any more details about the real story here?

Gunners wrote:The coaching void within the Texans Academy system is the problem.  Becca might be a nice person and an ok coach but she is an unproven commodity and parents know it. Without the likes of a David May type figure to help organize the top Texans academy teams, I would expect these types of things to continue.

Furthermore, the fact that Hassan is willing to allow this team to leave (if not outright force it to move and btw this is the real story here) proves that the club isn't all that interested in a quality academy team...just quantity.

So the SSA trainer who has (according to posts on this forum) taken the team is a "proven commodity" who has a track record of organizing top academy teams?

Over the years, people have made claims on here that the Texans don't support the girls side of their club. However, despite those claims, they somehow continue to produce top Lake Highlands and ECNL teams. So, how have the Texan's "forced" this group of 05's to leave? What is the "real story"?

oldboot wrote:

Gunners wrote:The coaching void within the Texans Academy system is the problem.  Becca might be a nice person and an ok coach but she is an unproven commodity and parents know it. Without the likes of a David May type figure to help organize the top Texans academy teams, I would expect these types of things to continue.

Furthermore, the fact that Hassan is willing to allow this team to leave (if not outright force it to move and btw this is the real story here) proves that the club isn't all that interested in a quality academy team...just quantity.

So the SSA trainer who has (according to posts on this forum) taken the team is a "proven commodity" who has a track record of organizing top academy teams?

Over the years, people have made claims on here that the Texans don't support the girls side of their club. However, despite those claims, they somehow continue to produce top Lake Highlands and ECNL teams. So, how have the Texan's "forced" this group of 05's to leave? What is the "real story"?

Don't forget the SSA non-recruiting trainer is buddies with Becca...so maybe she handed them over to save them from the pressures of ECNL down the road.

http://www.streetsocceracademy.org/page/show/499682-about-street-soccer-academy

"The philosophy of the SSA coaching staff is to develop each player individually within a team setting, and we maintain open and honest communication with the team coaches and parents. The SSA coaches are highly effective with their teaching methods as the goal is player development without the focus being on the win / loss record of the team. The players are talked to with respect and with a positive, focused tone of voice. The overall environment fosters productive learning to take place in a very short period of time. SSA coaches accurately demonstrate the skills and concepts presented, and they play with the players to set the right mentality for the players in every session. This enhances player development, and the player's performance on their respective club or school team steadily improves.

Our goal is strictly to prepare players for higher levels of play regardless of what team they currently play for."

Borussia wrote:http://www.streetsocceracademy.org/page/show/499682-about-street-soccer-academy

"The philosophy of the SSA coaching staff is to develop each player individually within a team setting, and we maintain open and honest communication with the team coaches and parents.  The SSA coaches are highly effective with their teaching methods as the goal is player development without the focus being on the win / loss record of the team.  The players are talked to with respect and with a positive, focused tone of voice.  The overall environment fosters productive learning to take place in a very short period of time.  SSA coaches accurately demonstrate the skills and concepts presented, and they play with the players to set the right mentality for the players in every session.  This enhances player development, and the player's performance on their respective club or school team steadily improves.

Our goal is strictly to prepare players for higher levels of play regardless of what team they currently play for."

So have you started drafting your formal apology?

 of course....

PlanoBound wrote:

Gunners wrote:
Furthermore, the fact that Hassan is willing to allow this team to leave (if not outright force it to move and btw this is the real story here) proves that the club isn't all that interested in a quality academy team...just quantity.

Sounds interesting - any more details about the real story here?

I have no ties to this situation, but having direct past experience with Hassan, I think I can somewhat accurately paraphrase the conversation...

Team Parent(s): "I (We) have some concern over the direction of the team and think that a coaching change could be beneficial. We would like to discuss options with you."

Hassan/Ahmed: "That's nice, but you are a parent, and we are the soccer experts here and we know what it best for developing teams. While we value your input, it has absolute no bearing here. We will look at what is best for your team and will decide who will be your coach."

In my experience, many academy and select parents like to have (or at least feel like they have), some level of say and/or control over the direction of their team, and when they get the impression that the leadership of the club has no desire to at least consider their input, they will go search for a situation where they have some control (i.e. shop around for another club with a coach they can "choose" to play for).

While I probably didn't nail this situation completely on the head, I'm betting I'm at least 80% percent there...

bwgophers wrote:

PlanoBound wrote:

Gunners wrote:
Furthermore, the fact that Hassan is willing to allow this team to leave (if not outright force it to move and btw this is the real story here) proves that the club isn't all that interested in a quality academy team...just quantity.

Sounds interesting - any more details about the real story here?

I have no ties to this situation, but having direct past experience with Hassan, I think I can somewhat accurately paraphrase the conversation...

Team Parent(s):  "I (We) have some concern over the direction of the team and think that a coaching change could be beneficial.  We would like to discuss options with you."

Hassan/Ahmed:  "That's nice, but you are a parent, and we are the soccer experts here and we know what it best for developing teams.  While we value your input, it has absolute no bearing here.  We will look at what is best for your team and will decide who will be your coach."

In my experience, many academy and select parents like to have (or at least feel like they have), some level of say and/or control over the direction of their team, and when they get the impression that the leadership of the club has no desire to at least consider their input, they will go search for a situation where they have some control (i.e. shop around for another club with a coach they can "choose" to play for).

While I probably didn't nail this situation completely on the head, I'm betting I'm at least 80% percent there...

Oh... and to be totally fair, I realized that I left out the other side of the conversation:

Team Parent(s):  "I (We) know that some parents on our team have expressed concern over the direction of the team and think that we should consider a coaching change.  However, I (We) feel our coach is doing an excellent job, support him/her 100%, and do NOT want a coaching change for the team."

Hassan/Ahmed:  "That's nice, but you are a parent, and we are the soccer experts here and we know what it best for developing teams.  While we value your input, it has absolute no bearing here.  We will look at what is best for your team and will decide who will be your coach."

I have no knowledge of the situation with the '05 team.  The following comments are simply what I have experienced after 1+ year of my daughter playing on the '03 Texans team.

My daughter loves playing for Becca.  Becca has taught her to be a more skilled player, a more intelligent player and a tougher player.  The first time my daughter practiced with Becca she said, "That was fun.  Can we do it again sometime?"  After the second practice, my daughter told me that she wanted to play for Becca no matter what.  It didn't matter that there wasn't even a full team yet.  My daughter said she would keeping playing for Becca and wait for the team to form.

And, while I am thankful that Becca has helped my daughter improve as a player I am even more thankful that Becca has helped nurture my daughter's love of soccer.  Before Becca, my daughter had quit soccer because it wasn't fun anymore.  Now she is excited to go out and play again.  She walks off the field exhausted, with scrapes and bruises, but always with a smile.  And for that I credit Becca.

I have no idea why BM sticks around at the Texans. She seems to be good at building a team but yet the Texans seem to like to take the teams away from her once she's built them up. The 03 team got a new HC (not sure how much BM is still around on that team) but it was so late in the game that even if someone did want to switch teams there was really no where to go and now it sounds like they were going to switch the coach again and this time the team said thanks but no thanks. Oh well, if the kids and parents are happy with where they landed then more power to them.

I'd say BW's play by play was probably pretty accurate from past experiences with the Texans club.

bwgophers wrote:

bwgophers wrote:

PlanoBound wrote:

Gunners wrote:
Furthermore, the fact that Hassan is willing to allow this team to leave (if not outright force it to move and btw this is the real story here) proves that the club isn't all that interested in a quality academy team...just quantity.

Sounds interesting - any more details about the real story here?

I have no ties to this situation, but having direct past experience with Hassan, I think I can somewhat accurately paraphrase the conversation...

Team Parent(s):  "I (We) have some concern over the direction of the team and think that a coaching change could be beneficial.  We would like to discuss options with you."

Hassan/Ahmed:  "That's nice, but you are a parent, and we are the soccer experts here and we know what it best for developing teams.  While we value your input, it has absolute no bearing here.  We will look at what is best for your team and will decide who will be your coach."

In my experience, many academy and select parents like to have (or at least feel like they have), some level of say and/or control over the direction of their team, and when they get the impression that the leadership of the club has no desire to at least consider their input, they will go search for a situation where they have some control (i.e. shop around for another club with a coach they can "choose" to play for).

While I probably didn't nail this situation completely on the head, I'm betting I'm at least 80% percent there...

Oh... and to be totally fair, I realized that I left out the other side of the conversation:

Team Parent(s):  "I (We) know that some parents on our team have expressed concern over the direction of the team and think that we should consider a coaching change.  However, I (We) feel our coach is doing an excellent job, support him/her 100%, and do NOT want a coaching change for the team."

Hassan/Ahmed:  "That's nice, but you are a parent, and we are the soccer experts here and we know what it best for developing teams.  While we value your input, it has absolute no bearing here.  We will look at what is best for your team and will decide who will be your coach."

I think this is dead on. In fact, he has just had a meeting to an upcoming team's parents on this, but on the boys' side. As I understood it from Hassan that the time for parents trying to influence the direction of the team needs to be done away with. He wants to follow the model of Ajax and other European clubs and change the mindset of the way teams are formed. He believes that what is best for the kids is just like like you described, BW. He believes that the kids and parents sign with the "club" and not a "team". He wants pools of players who will train together with the best coaches and from there, teams will be formed and coaches assigned. He also believes that no kids should be with a single coach for more than 2 years, which is what is common in Europe. Following that model, he wants to move the club in that direction.

None of this is wrong by any means, but would just require a distinct paradigm shift in the way Americans approach the traditional way soccer is played in the U.S.

Nothing was mentioned about the girls' side of the club, so I don't know if he or the club sees the girls' side going the same direction.

You both forgot the "F Off I don't need your team, I have 800 other teams."

Borussia wrote:Texas is always #1 sir, especially in years we beat OU!

HOOK EM!

Preach on brother!!!!!