'06 FBR Feb. 20th

by Guest 20/02/14, 06:17 pm

A few notes:

1) The teams currently listed in the FBR rankings were as they were when Fall season ended and have a minimum of 3 games played against other '06 opponents in the past 16 weeks.

2) Once league schedules are published, teams will be removed that are found to have disbanded.

2) There will be movement up and down by teams as the season progresses (some being significant) as league play wraps up and teams are reassigned Tier rankings.

3) If you do not see your favorite team they either have less than 3 games vs. '06 competition or have no game data reported. PMs with scores are welcome and all anonymity will be kept.

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by Goth Right 21/02/14, 08:18 am

The 10th place DT Moreno ties 15th place LP Fowler and the best they can do is score one goal and they jump up four places to number six. The 15th place LP Fowler ties the 10th place DT Moreno and holds them to one goal and they drop to 16th.

by Guest 21/02/14, 08:23 am

You ask a question by insulting me, nice.

To answer your question, its all in the numbers and i will be tweaking the tier assignments of each team after season fully kicks off this weekend.

It takes time and work.

by Goth Right 21/02/14, 08:31 am

DT Moreno shouldn't be in the top 20. LP Fowler should have moved up they are a better team. The system should be changed something is not working. DT shouldn't move up by failing to out play a lower ranked team.

by boilerjoe_96 21/02/14, 08:40 am

Gotta win there Goth... and from what I've learned winning big helps the numbers...

For example... Let's say you beat Team A 4-2.... if Team A beat Team B 8-0 in the prior weeks...and say you beat Team B 4-1 due to moving players around, trying out new goalie(who let one in) etc... Team A will be higher than you in rankings(all else equal)... So FBR isn't perfect, it is all in the numbers as Bo says(except human interaction of what tier which is subjective), and blow outs help. Blow teams out and you move up.

If you win, doesn't matter anyway... I've lost interest for the most part in it... winning solves all ranking wise...perhaps not necessarily development wise.

by Triumph FC 21/02/14, 08:53 am

Goth Right wrote:The 10th place DT Moreno ties 15th place LP Fowler and the best they can do is score one goal and they jump up four places to number six. The 15th place LP Fowler ties the 10th place DT Moreno and holds them to one goal and they drop to 16th.

Who cares (well maybe some do)
Triumph Aguero tied FCD Roach and lost on penalties does that mean we should be in 3rd behind them or in front of them? I know the answer WHO CARES its a bit of fun and its U8.

by Goth Right 21/02/14, 08:56 am

It doesn't matter I don't care which team is ranked higher. LP Fowler has a better record against better teams and DT Moreno hasn't won against any ranked teams so I think if DT Moreno can lose a few more games and tie a couple of more teams than they should be ranked number two by the end of spring if the system isn't changed by then.

by boilerjoe_96 21/02/14, 08:58 am

Goth Right wrote:It doesn't matter I don't care which team is ranked higher. LP Fowler has a better record against better teams and DT Moreno hasn't won against any ranked teams so I think if DT Moreno can lose a few more games and tie a couple of more teams than they should be ranked number two by the end of spring if the system isn't changed by then.

Maybe Bo and Moreno have a little something going on, on the side? hee hee Twisted Evil

by Goth Right 21/02/14, 09:00 am

Triumph FC wrote:
Goth Right wrote:The 10th place DT Moreno ties 15th place LP Fowler and the best they can do is score one goal and they jump up four places to number six. The 15th place LP Fowler ties the 10th place DT Moreno and holds them to one goal and they drop to 16th.

Who cares (well maybe some do)
Triumph Aguero tied FCD Roach and lost on penalties does that mean we should be in 3rd behind them or in front of them? I know the answer WHO CARES its a bit of fun and its U8.

The mistake was not allowing another goal. Then you would have lost and moved up. FC Roach would have dropped one place and some team that didn't play that week would have moved up. You have to understand the system it all works out in the end.

by Triumph FC 21/02/14, 09:00 am

Goth It is frustrating sometimes but I use the rankings to my advantage. Keep your team out of the limelight, keep hold of your players and go select with them. The higher your ranking the bigger the target on your back the more coaches try to recruit your players. The team will eventual find its true ranking

by Guest 21/02/14, 09:03 am

If you have more game data on LP Fowler I would love to have it for the data base. They spent the fall season playing in UAL and did not report most of their scores and they did not have much tournament action. I believe it was 1 tournament I could find them in and only had 2 games before it was called for weather.

If you would like to argue their ranking at least support it with actual game data.

I have it on DT Moreno.

by Guest 21/02/14, 09:05 am

Triumph FC wrote:Goth It is frustrating sometimes but I use the rankings to my advantage. Keep your team out of the limelight, keep hold of your players and go select with them. The higher your ranking the bigger the target on your back the more coaches try to recruit your players. The team will eventual find its true ranking

If any COACH or MANAGER would like their team removed from the rankings please send me a private message and I will do so. Triumph, would you like me to do so?

by Goth Right 21/02/14, 09:06 am

I am new to all of this academy ranking I think the standings are more important. Thanks for having the rankings though all this controversy is very entertaining.

by Guest 21/02/14, 09:09 am

Standings and Rankings do not necessarily mean the team or your DD is developing.

That takes actually watching the game, understanding what is being done and evaluating that.

You all are more than capable of starting a "Human Rankings" and including your thoughts on each team you rank, style of play, technical ability, etc... the other age groups have done this previously. rather entertaining.

by Triumph FC 21/02/14, 09:14 am

Borussia wrote:
Triumph FC wrote:Goth It is frustrating sometimes but I use the rankings to my advantage. Keep your team out of the limelight, keep hold of your players and go select with them. The higher your ranking the bigger the target on your back the more coaches try to recruit your players. The team will eventual find its true ranking

If any COACH or MANAGER would like their team removed from the rankings please send me a private message and I will do so. Triumph, would you like me to do so?

Makes no difference to me. I know what we have, FCD Roach know what we have and I don't get parents at my practices looking for a top team.
Borussia It wasn't a dig at you I was trying to tell Goth to relax, I don't care where we are in or out.

by Guest 21/02/14, 09:17 am

It has been explained previously. This is all based on numbers, and tier assignment which is human based.

That being said, as teams are added and have a minimum number of games it will throw things off a bit around the beggining of the seasons as they get added.

It will also be affected as teams fall off the radar.

Perfect example. Solar Mcdaniel has at this point less than 5 games on the FBR and as the season progresses games will fall off. Teams that played them will be affected, etc... its a formula and the end results change as the data changes.

Its something to look at while you sip some coffee folks. Dont base your kids development off it.

by Triumph FC 21/02/14, 09:22 am

Exactly! It doesn't matter now but after U11 when teams are playing with their Official rosters we can all look and see where the teams are so for now enjoy the rankings someone puts time and effort into

by Goth Right 21/02/14, 09:28 am

Have a nice day all this has been fun.

by Triumph FC 21/02/14, 09:31 am

Borussia wrote:It has been explained previously. This is all based on numbers, and tier assignment which is human based.

That being said, as teams are added and have a minimum number of games it will throw things off a bit around the beggining of the seasons as they get added.

It will also be affected as teams fall off the radar.

Perfect example. Solar Mcdaniel has at this point less than 5 games on the FBR and as the season progresses games will fall off. Teams that played them will be affected, etc... its a formula and the end results change as the data changes.

Its something to look at while you sip some coffee folks. Dont base your kids development off it.

Aguero will slip as well as we are going to play U9/05 but will play own age in tournaments

by Guest 21/02/14, 09:53 am

Triumph FC wrote:Goth It is frustrating sometimes but I use the rankings to my advantage. Keep your team out of the limelight, keep hold of your players and go select with them. The higher your ranking the bigger the target on your back the more coaches try to recruit your players. The team will eventual find its true ranking

I'm shocked at such an honest and insightful answer. Is it too late to delete your comment? If the parents ask you why you chose to play 05' Silver B, you may want to give them a different answer than this.

by Triumph FC 21/02/14, 10:05 am

I didn't ask to play Silver B I asked for Silver A actually but we got put into B
I did the same with the 03's kept them out of the Limelight until select and it didn't hurt their development. Its about development and building a team not how high anybody is in the rankings. I'm not worried about playing 11v11 at U9 or being #1 but if my parents think differently then I'm sure they will tell me and there are plenty of teams that only are interested rankings and I'm sure they will have places. They are 8/9 years old let them enjoy and learn
Crazy parents, crazy coaches, top team hopping players they are all there so everybody has a choice. Some coaches even take substances (no names mentioned) to go with all the crazy world of academy/select. Some coaches verbally abuse the players. You choose because the higher up the rankings you go the more crazies the teams gets. Coaches, parents and players!

by Guest 21/02/14, 10:12 am

Triumph FC wrote:I didn't ask to play Silver B I asked for Silver A actually but we got put into B
I did the same with the 03's kept them out of the Limelight until select and it didn't hurt their development. Its about development and building a team not how high anybody is in the rankings. I'm not worried about playing 11v11 at U9 or being #1 but if my parents think differently then I'm sure they will tell me and there are plenty of teams that only are interested rankings and I'm sure they will have places. They are 8/9 years old let them enjoy and learn

"Development" that's what we parents like to hear. cheers

by Triumph FC 21/02/14, 10:15 am

Development, Fun and winning so don't ever worry about rankings Very Happy

by Guest 21/02/14, 11:34 am

Goth Right wrote:I am new to all of this academy ranking I think the standings are more important. Thanks for having the rankings though all this controversy is very entertaining.

This is not meant to sound preachy or like I am trying to talk down to anyone - rather this is insight from someone who is just a few years ahead of you in the process:

Your DD is in 2nd grade (most likely). Neither the standings nor the ranking are "more important." It is important that your daughter is having fun and developing (although you could argue it just matters that it is fun).

Yes, it is easy for me now that my DD is in select because we are on our team for the whole year (with an exception or two - that's right I said it '03 parents). When my DD was younger I worried about rankings and standings and if our team would get some more good players so we could go up in the rankings and standings. Now I see that if my/your DD is having fun and is on a team with a good coach the rest of the BS tends to take care of itself.

I understand that as parents we are all just looking for the best fit for our DDs and the FBR can help with that. But my guess is a 2nd grade girl could care less about the FBR. So if a parent is on here complaining about the FBR she/he had probably lost sight of what youth sports is about.

That doesn't even take into consideration that parents are complaining about a system completely taken care of for them - free of charge- because some adult wants to spend hours setting up a useful ranking tool. I think I can hear Col. Nathan Jessup saying, "I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it! I would rather you just said "thank you", and went on your way."

Wow - that turned out to be preachy after all.

by SD69 21/02/14, 11:44 am

And sometimes, again in Col Nathan Jessups voice, "We can't handle the truth!" lol!

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