04 League Scores - 2/22 thru 2/23

seamusdog wrote:Ah yes, the pivot to more innuendo.  Only on this forum could that be considered a "valid point."

OK, one more response.  I never said we didn't have enough players.  We are, in fact, closer to 16 than 11.  But when two girls injured in the same week, the bench does get a bit thin pretty quickly.  That's why, in basically every sport, when a player goes down, they bring in a sub.  Crazy, huh.

(Sorry, sorry, did I just introduce real world logic into this discussion.  My bad.)

Really, I am touched by your concern for the team.  Who knew that so many people cared so darn much about the team, the bench, their coach, their color, and (apparently) their mode of transportation (we aren't fancy enough for a bus, but wow, thanks for thinking so highly of us!).

Not sure what REAL world your logic is from. Yes in every sport they bring in a sub but the crazy thing is they always seem to bring that sub in from the team not another team. Kind of like the lakers playing short so they just bring in a couple of studs from the clippers   . You do realize select is coming right? The whole contract you can no longer bring in "subs" from other teams. So either the roster is thin and losing players made you short so you had to bring in players (ie. would have no subs) or you had plenty of players and you brought in help or the delicious 3rd option is a couple of players went down and you had plenty of "payers" but needed to bring in players to replace the ones you lost and didn't want to put the game in the hands of the "payers" you had left. Either way I still say it's scott's fault. A couple of players and a bus still shouldn't have cost them that game.

go99 wrote:

seamusdog wrote:Ah yes, the pivot to more innuendo.  Only on this forum could that be considered a "valid point."

OK, one more response.  I never said we didn't have enough players.  We are, in fact, closer to 16 than 11.  But when two girls injured in the same week, the bench does get a bit thin pretty quickly.  That's why, in basically every sport, when a player goes down, they bring in a sub.  Crazy, huh.

(Sorry, sorry, did I just introduce real world logic into this discussion.  My bad.)

Really, I am touched by your concern for the team.  Who knew that so many people cared so darn much about the team, the bench, their coach, their color, and (apparently) their mode of transportation (we aren't fancy enough for a bus, but wow, thanks for thinking so highly of us!).

Not sure what REAL world your logic is from.  Yes in every sport they bring in a sub but the crazy thing is they always seem to bring that sub in from the team not another team.  Kind of like the lakers playing short so they just bring in a couple of studs from the clippers   .  You do realize select is coming right?  The whole contract you can no longer bring in "subs" from other teams.  So either the roster is thin and losing players made you short so you had to bring in players (ie. would have no subs) or you had plenty of players and you brought in help or the delicious 3rd option is a couple of players went down and you had plenty of "payers" but needed to bring in players to replace the ones you lost and didn't want to put the game in the hands of the "payers" you had left.  Either way I still say it's scott's fault.  A couple of players and a bus still shouldn't have cost them that game.

Hmmm... seems to make some sense...

RalphyBoy wrote:

go99 wrote:

seamusdog wrote:Ah yes, the pivot to more innuendo.  Only on this forum could that be considered a "valid point."

OK, one more response.  I never said we didn't have enough players.  We are, in fact, closer to 16 than 11.  But when two girls injured in the same week, the bench does get a bit thin pretty quickly.  That's why, in basically every sport, when a player goes down, they bring in a sub.  Crazy, huh.

(Sorry, sorry, did I just introduce real world logic into this discussion.  My bad.)

Really, I am touched by your concern for the team.  Who knew that so many people cared so darn much about the team, the bench, their coach, their color, and (apparently) their mode of transportation (we aren't fancy enough for a bus, but wow, thanks for thinking so highly of us!).

Not sure what REAL world your logic is from.  Yes in every sport they bring in a sub but the crazy thing is they always seem to bring that sub in from the team not another team.  Kind of like the lakers playing short so they just bring in a couple of studs from the clippers   .  You do realize select is coming right?  The whole contract you can no longer bring in "subs" from other teams.  So either the roster is thin and losing players made you short so you had to bring in players (ie. would have no subs) or you had plenty of players and you brought in help or the delicious 3rd option is a couple of players went down and you had plenty of "payers" but needed to bring in players to replace the ones you lost and didn't want to put the game in the hands of the "payers" you had left.  Either way I still say it's scott's fault.  A couple of players and a bus still shouldn't have cost them that game.

Hmmm...  seems to make some sense...  

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Did JK knick himself on the reef? Cuz there seems to be a bit of blood in the water...

Wait....JK pulled from his top squad to possibly compete, but that happens all the time right? with other clubs?

I guess the "reason" wasn't good enough as to why he did it?

And I'm just asking and you more observant or knowledgeable posters can set me straight if I'm off base with this info....but hasn't LW sent a RASE player or 2 to a Dalglish game? LP Owens borrowed the then "Dalglish Sweeper" to stack up with other teams... What's good for the goose isn't good for the gander I guess....
I mean Scott used to use Rosales players to stack up at times...

I know what team doesn't but it may start a fire and its too early for that. LOL

Still was a valid point by GO but a better analogy as far as Lakers/Clippers...it was more like Lakers pulling from their squad to cover their D-League teams injured players. No offense at all to LFS White players.

Just want to get this right- JK is getting drilled for bringing in 2 players to fill the roster against the almighty Scott. Scott could not get a score against a 20-somthing ranked team with 2 "guess" players. And I was there for the whole game, the only bus on the complex was the Taco Bueno Bus. Id like to see the Scott tournament roster as compared to the league roster.

Here's my Two cents... Parents... don't take this type of abuse from coaches. Fine, you got a tie but the team players didn't get the extra playing time reserved for your team. Another non-paying player/s to the team got the playing time (a whole games worth). Whoo hooo... that's the realization. The players won nothing.

I am all for pulling players to make his game more competitive or to figure his rosters out or just for laughs and giggles. The doubt only came up with how it was presented because it didn't hold water. I agree with Nocrying Scott should have been able to win that game no matter what.

 

FCsoccer1 wrote:Here's my Two cents... Parents... don't take this type of abuse from coaches.  Fine, you got a tie but the team players didn't get the extra playing time reserved for your team.   Another non-paying player/s to the team got the playing time (a whole games worth).  Whoo hooo... that's the realization.  The players won nothing.

Hassan would NEVER be accused of doing something like that....  

FCsoccer1- wake up man..... lets see you bring this up at your next team meeting. You would be looking for another team the next morning. I agree with you but it aint gonna happen!!!

if a team has a 14-15 player roster and you lose 2 players to injury. That will leave you with 12-13 players. Sorry but you will need more then a 2-3 player bench. Especially against a top notch team. We as parents would like to think out little princess can handle running around with no need for rest but it does not work like that.

And the only reason Im giving love to JK is because its taking away from the Deleon showing against his Black team. LOL

Agree with Go. Scott should've taken care of business.
Also agree with FCSoccer. There were 6 players sitting on the bench who got very little playing time because the 'extras' played the whole game. As a parent I wouldn't have been happy if it was my dd sitting on the bench while the extras played the whole game.

From the Lake Highlands Website

II. TEAM FORMATION
A. Roster Size: The maximum number of players on a roster in the Under 11 and Under 12 age divisions is sixteen (16).

and the minimum is 14 players for LH.

Just saying........

Lets be honest...every girl on every team isn't all about soccer. There are some that don't have getting better on their priority list at all. Soccer passion probably left their hearts back in U9, but what hasn't left them is the comradery or social aspect...all the friends, the bday parties, the sleep overs, and the post game eating out...the parents know this and the coach but why turn away extra training dues when your roster is already short. Might as well bring in some hungry girls who wanna compete and get more touches, nothing like in game experience...

This isn't always the case, but sometimes it is...

Definitely agree with you, not to many teams/coaches follow logic. Personally, I don't bring this up at team meetings, I as a parent am responsible for my player. Trust me.... the coach hears from me if something is a foot.

[quote="WestsideSoccer"]From the Lake Highlands Website

II. TEAM FORMATION
A. Roster Size: The maximum number of players on a roster in the Under 11 and Under 12 age divisions is sixteen (16).

and the minimum is 14 players for LH.

Just saying........[/quote]



This is for the roster size to register for LH. There are many games my older dd's team played with only 12 for games but had 15 on the roster. Yes it does sting with injuries but you can't add to LH roster once it is turned into the league

Just saying......

I think everyone is reading into the LFS roster and parking the bus way too much.

Who really cares how big their roster is and who really cares how many LFS Black players were on the field. Sitting back and not trying to concede is a legitimate strategy used in the soccer world everyday. The best teams in the world have been frustrated by this and many times don't even walk out with a draw. This is the strategy used against Barca in almost every game they play. They can have 80%-90% of possession and still occasionaly walk out with a draw or loss.

LFS needs to be congratulated for not conceding and DT Scott needs to figure out how to play against this strategy that will no doubt be used against them in the future.

Valid points also...

I say good job LFS white. Nice tie anyway you look at it. I'll bet Jk didn't expect such a close game and got some extra fire power to keep it interesting. The real story line is Scott tying LFS white

Bow-Chicka-Wow Wow wrote:I say good job LFS white.    Nice tie anyway you look at it.   I'll bet Jk didn't expect such a close game and got some extra fire power to keep it interesting.   The real story line is Scott tying LFS white

Not being picky, but the real storyline is not Scott tying LFS White, it is LFS White tying Scott. By all accounts (dangerous proposition to take from a forum) Scott didn't play poorly, it was LFS White that came in with a definitive strategy and succeeded with that strategy.

RalphyBoy wrote:

go99 wrote:

seamusdog wrote:Ah yes, the pivot to more innuendo.  Only on this forum could that be considered a "valid point."

OK, one more response.  I never said we didn't have enough players.  We are, in fact, closer to 16 than 11.  But when two girls injured in the same week, the bench does get a bit thin pretty quickly.  That's why, in basically every sport, when a player goes down, they bring in a sub.  Crazy, huh.

(Sorry, sorry, did I just introduce real world logic into this discussion.  My bad.)

Really, I am touched by your concern for the team.  Who knew that so many people cared so darn much about the team, the bench, their coach, their color, and (apparently) their mode of transportation (we aren't fancy enough for a bus, but wow, thanks for thinking so highly of us!).

Not sure what REAL world your logic is from.  Yes in every sport they bring in a sub but the crazy thing is they always seem to bring that sub in from the team not another team.  Kind of like the lakers playing short so they just bring in a couple of studs from the clippers   .  You do realize select is coming right?  The whole contract you can no longer bring in "subs" from other teams.  So either the roster is thin and losing players made you short so you had to bring in players (ie. would have no subs) or you had plenty of players and you brought in help or the delicious 3rd option is a couple of players went down and you had plenty of "payers" but needed to bring in players to replace the ones you lost and didn't want to put the game in the hands of the "payers" you had left.  Either way I still say it's scott's fault.  A couple of players and a bus still shouldn't have cost them that game.

Hmmm...  seems to make some sense...  

Anyone familiar with item G? If not, you might want to read this.


http://www.girlsclassicleague.org/lhgclbylawsandrules/IVLHGCLPlayVer1203V13.pdf

ballboy wrote:

RalphyBoy wrote:

go99 wrote:

seamusdog wrote:Ah yes, the pivot to more innuendo.  Only on this forum could that be considered a "valid point."

OK, one more response.  I never said we didn't have enough players.  We are, in fact, closer to 16 than 11.  But when two girls injured in the same week, the bench does get a bit thin pretty quickly.  That's why, in basically every sport, when a player goes down, they bring in a sub.  Crazy, huh.

(Sorry, sorry, did I just introduce real world logic into this discussion.  My bad.)

Really, I am touched by your concern for the team.  Who knew that so many people cared so darn much about the team, the bench, their coach, their color, and (apparently) their mode of transportation (we aren't fancy enough for a bus, but wow, thanks for thinking so highly of us!).

Not sure what REAL world your logic is from.  Yes in every sport they bring in a sub but the crazy thing is they always seem to bring that sub in from the team not another team.  Kind of like the lakers playing short so they just bring in a couple of studs from the clippers   .  You do realize select is coming right?  The whole contract you can no longer bring in "subs" from other teams.  So either the roster is thin and losing players made you short so you had to bring in players (ie. would have no subs) or you had plenty of players and you brought in help or the delicious 3rd option is a couple of players went down and you had plenty of "payers" but needed to bring in players to replace the ones you lost and didn't want to put the game in the hands of the "payers" you had left.  Either way I still say it's scott's fault.  A couple of players and a bus still shouldn't have cost them that game.

Hmmm...  seems to make some sense...  

Anyone familiar with item G?  If not, you might want to read this.


http://www.girlsclassicleague.org/lhgclbylawsandrules/IVLHGCLPlayVer1203V13.pdf

There you have it!! Now everyone back to their corners!! Go on!

It's funny how so many people are concerned with the well being of the LFS girls. It's only a matter of time some coach hiding on the board tries to utilize the apparent discord to introduce them to kick and chase.

Oh and by the way, if you've ever watched the LFS games half the girls on the bench are from the other team and are simply supporting each other.

What's up with the axe to grind with LFS anyway? Am I missing something? There sure are a lot of haters out there.

ballboy wrote:What's up with the axe to grind with LFS anyway?  Am I missing something?  There sure are a lot of haters out there.

RASE one week then LFS! Who next?

db10 wrote:It's funny how so many people are concerned with the well being of the LFS girls. It's only a matter of time some coach hiding on the board tries to utilize the apparent discord to introduce them to kick and chase.

Oh and by the way, if you've ever watched the LFS games half the girls on the bench are from the other team and are simply supporting each other.

However, I think this rule was broken...

2. A Club Pass Player may play League games for other teams within their Club
(referred to as “Receiving Teams” herein) under all of the following restrictions:
a. A Club Pass Player may not “play down” for a team in a younger age
group (e.g., an under-15 Club Pass Player may not play on an under-14
Receiving Team);
b. A Club Pass Player may appear on one and only one Game Day Roster on
a given day;

Not that it matters, we'll all interpret the rules as we see it benefits our argument... LOL

Rules were meant to be bent and not broken when loopholes are found and if no one calls it out, was a rule really broken?   

RalphyBoy wrote:

db10 wrote:It's funny how so many people are concerned with the well being of the LFS girls. It's only a matter of time some coach hiding on the board tries to utilize the apparent discord to introduce them to kick and chase.

Oh and by the way, if you've ever watched the LFS games half the girls on the bench are from the other team and are simply supporting each other.

However, I think this rule was broken...

2. A Club Pass Player may play League games for other teams within their Club
(referred to as “Receiving Teams” herein) under all of the following restrictions:
a. A Club Pass Player may not “play down” for a team in a younger age
group (e.g., an under-15 Club Pass Player may not play on an under-14
Receiving Team);
b. A Club Pass Player may appear on one and only one Game Day Roster on
a given day;

Not that it matters, we'll all interpret the rules as we see it benefits our argument... LOL

Rules were meant to be bent and not broken when loopholes are found and if no one calls it out, was a rule really broken?    

I think you're missing the point. The comment was made that players were limited to 1 roster come July. This is simply not true anymore and furthermore this rule doesn't apply to SDL games anyway.